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Training, Equipment, and Mindset

Alright, so I won't go too much into it, but as I'm sure you've all noticed, there is a distinct lack of competent organizations and combat readiness in the left. While it may just be a stereotype, the idea of the skinny and weak anarchist can sum up most of the left that wishes to engage in direct action, mostly by using outdated manuals and romanticized ideas of war. As such, I had, a few years ago, taken it upon myself to release training videos to some of you in order to get you up to speed on the basics of the basics. That, unfortunately, seems to have fallen through on the account of my job, which often has me traveling and doing other things that I won't go into because they are totally uninteresting and unrelated to the topic at hand. As such, we will go into a few key steps you should be taking in order to prepare yourself for introductory training, should it ever be offered to you. Yes, you read that correctly, you must train yourself to be trained. You do not have the luxury of being part of an organized military force, though I would not critique you if that is the route you are wanting to take, as it would be hypocritical. I will limit the topic to individual training, equipment, and self-selection because the whole of military science is a broad topic that is not wholly known by any one individual. Please understand this so that my limitations do not become a hindrance to your growth as a potential combat soldier. Seek training from experienced individuals, even if you have to hide your power level. Consider me just another voice on the internet. I do not intend to use credentials or authority on the subject to get you to do as I say, but I would appreciate it if you thought about a few things. Thank you for reading.
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tf is a hypersonic missile?

I see a lot of talk about how Russia n China could shit on the west with hypersonic missiles. which is cool af but I also don't know if thats even true or what a hypersonic missile even is(I assume it goes faster than sound?). Are they a big deal? I really do hope the hype lives up this time
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Zardoz speaks to you, his chosen ones. You have been raised up from brutality, to kill the brutals who multiply, and are legion. To this end, Zardoz your god gave you the gift of the gun. The gun is good. The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, to poison the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth and kill!
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Soviet Sniper Describes Hunting Enemy on Eastern Front (1941) // Memoir of Yevgeni Nikolaev

>Soviet Sniper Describes Hunting Enemy on Eastern Front (1941) // Memoir of Yevgeni Nikolaev
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Pellet guns on the battlefield

Say you're a Wagner recruit who just got out of Russian prison and they give you this because they're running low on ammunition and supplies. How do you survive constant barrages like that (if possible)?
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This is all it took to defeat NATO for the Afghanis.

>old Chinese AKs

>ww1 era Lee-Enfields
>IEDs made from soda bottles and shit you can find at a hardware store

How these are manufactured:
>Kids are putting Drano, tin foil, and a little water in soda bottles and capping it up, then leaving it on lawns. When you go to pick up the trash, and the bottle is shaken just a little, in about 30 seconds or less it builds up a gas and explodes with enough force to remove some of your extremities. The liquid that comes out is boiling hot as well.

>Don't pick up any plastic bottles that may be lying in your yard or in the gutter, etc.


>Homemade chemical bombs (HCBs), also known as acid bombs, bottle bombs, and MacGyver bombs, are explosive devices that can be made easily from volatile household chemicals (e.g., toilet bowl, drain, and driveway cleaners) purchased at a local hardware or grocery store. When these and other ingredients are combined and shaken in a capped container, the internal gas pressure generated from the chemical reaction causes the container to expand and explode. The subsequent explosion can cause injuries or death to persons in the immediate vicinity of the detonation.


Imagine getting BTFO'd with shit like that when you've got the world's arsenal at your disposal.
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Next USA civil war

The talk of a new civil war has been going on for a long while now that it almost sounds like a worn out trope.
But how does leftypol feel about it? How could it start, run and end?
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Meme Thread

Meme thread for /AK/
Post memes, stories, funny shit and /k/ screencaps.
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Puting the Tank in Tanky

The engineers behind the t-34 understood the logistical struggles of maintaining entire battalions of tanks where before they only existed in handfuls. Such an exponential expansion of the deployment of tanks, in tandem with the increasing complexity of tank parts and intricacies of tank design, meant that the modern war effort would require logistical feats never before preformed by any army. Innovations of the t-34 would include everything from sloping armor to increase deflection and grazing rates from enemy shells without substantially increasing production cost to simplifying turret design while not stripping functionality to maintain the maximal performance and accessibility while cutting down on logistical profile. The general design ethos of the USSR was to think smarter so they could fight harder, and longer. One of the innovations was its tank treads - rather than being fully bolted on both sides, only one side was bolted, and a raised metal plate was installed to prevent these bolts from slipping out from their position, decreasing the work needed to replace tank tracks while still maintaining full functionality.

This industrious and pragmatic design philosophy is what drove the war machine of the Red Army, making its constituent components consistent and interchangeable, and to make such work easy to preform. Any man or woman, from Siberian tribespeople to West Russian urbanites, could fight with equal skill and capability under the red banner. Meanwhile every German vehicle or weapon required specially trained crews, specially trained engineers, specially trained gunsmiths, all required to jump through the hoops of different corporate designs and methods to keep their weapons of war functional. Where the Germans had tanks so finnicky that only 50% of spare parts would be accepted in any given German tank, you could disassemble 100 T-34s, mix up the parts, and assemble 100 of them again, and they'd all run equally well. In a war of logistics, this streamlining and accessibility is what allowed for the USSR's tanks to stand against the Germans even with numerical inferiority, because of shorter time out of action for logistical or repair work. As the number of T-34s increased, they started to geometrically outnumber them. then, exponentially outnumber them.

Simplified and streamlined designs with accessibility and consistency will win out against the most "advanced" and "complex" of designs, because war is not waged in a way that the individual statistics of the unit in question matters as much as its capacity for rapid and consistent deployment while proficiently preforming its field duties. All 20 of the T-34s ready for action were worth far more to the Soviets than the 20 tigers which were 4 miles behind the battle lines getting serviced by repair crews to the Germans, no matter how much advanced armor or big guns you slapped onto the tiger. The ubiquity of the ease of use of these machines of war allowed for the easy training and massed deployment of legions of specialized soldiers and vehicle crews for the USSR, while the Nazi's ranks endlessly squabbled to poach what few trained soldiers there were that could field the different vehicles of their service branches.

These are the logistical methods by which the USSR won out against the fascist menace - not by creating an insular and superficially "elite" corps of soldiers, but creating an army by and for the common man, dictated by practicality and ubiquity. The Red Army stood, and its legacy still stands, as that of the Army of the People.
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armoured vehicles aircraft and ships
>here you can post military vehicles
>This thread is dedicated to military vehicle enthusiasts
>Here you can post all sorts of things to do with military vehicle's
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When it comes to modern melee defense is the leaf blade or the gladius/qama shape better?

Or would it depend on what environment you are talking about here? Would the blades on the left side perhaps be better in tight spaces where not much of a swing is possible?

When it comes to melee defense if its the only option somebody has, most conclusions or discussions on martial arts have narrowed down the two most effective to be either the leaf blade vs the gladius. Blade length being up to 40-ish anything to smaller 50s at most?

With the most effective maintenance oil being 3-in-one + Metal Glo for polishing when it comes to steel/wrought iron.

Rapiers would only be useful in places like gardens or very long spaces, idk about a cutlass however.

If your country bans blades, you are left with the axe or spear.

Can a physically weak person also get an advantage over 1 - 2 physically strong people attacking them if that is the only thing they can use?
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Cold War Era Laser Tanks Are Set to Make a Comeback

Today, the United States is among a number of nations working to develop and field advanced directed energy weapons, or lasers, for a number of military applications.

Near the end of the Cold War, the Soviet Union began experimenting with the idea of fielding a laser-equipped tank that could blind the targeting systems of inbound ballistic missiles or vehicles. Ultimately, two prototypes of the laser-armed 1К17 Сжатие, translated to “Compression,” were built, though they weren’t complete until the Soviet Union fell and was replaced by the new government of the Russian Federation.

Today, the United States is among a number of nations working to develop and field advanced directed energy weapons, or lasers, for a number of military applications. The U.S. Air Force recently announced its intentions to begin fielding lasers on their fighter platforms as soon as 2025, and the U.S. Navy began testing its latest laser, the MK 2 MOD 0, aboard the USS Portland in May of this year. But decades before these programs came to light, the Soviet Union was already exploring the idea of using lasers as a means of missile defense.

The Soviet strategy wasn’t to use these lasers to destroy incoming missiles like the applications in development today intend to. Instead, the Soviet laser tank aimed to blind or burn out the electro-optical sensors missiles used to find their targets. Once blinded or damaged, a missile would miss its intended target, whether that was the 1K17 or other nearby assets. Other planned applications included using the laser apparatus to blind heavy vehicles like tanks, making it impossible for them to aim and fire accurately.
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Tank Warfare

Since tank warfare is a hot topic right now I'll drop some good tank vids.

First vid is a long one covering American tanker school.
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Saturday Night Special!

Discussion place for the worst things to come out of the firearms community/industry. Includes bad guns, bad deals and bad people. Really just a place to shoot the shit that bothers you.
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You are now chief of security for your dumbass org meetings.

How do you defend from inevitable fascist attacks?

hard mode: legal in your country
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Jet Skins

Post best and worst jet skins.

What are you going into battle with?
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AR-15 Meme (?)

Is an AR-15 the best rifle to get if you're looking to arm yourself? I know it's incredibly popular in the US, but I'm not sure how much of that is just people trying to operator larp.

- Cheap ammo
- Ample parts
- Easy to use

- Complex
- Low powered round
- High-profile sights
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Please dump all your guerilla warfare/ resistance/weapon manuals/psyop tactics PDFs you have. Im finally making a collection. If therers already a collection somewhere on the site point me to it. It can be CIA stay behind shit, homemade weapons shiut, vietnam shit,guerilla warfare from brazil whatever is practically useful and can be printed and disseminated among people in a revolutionary situation. things that give you some rudimentary education
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This is what a 6" PVC sparkler bomb strapped to a 5 gallon gas can can do.
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Forgive for having a thread based on a 4chan screenshot (bleh) but I would very much like to discuss this topic because matt christman also brought this issue up in one of his vlogs.

soviets and red chinese go full yolo in 1950: what happens?
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Would this idea make any sense (gun experts only)

My idea for a shitty gun would be one that fires caseless ammo, but doesn't rely on any powder propellant/primer, just electricity. Perhaps a strong magnetic pull? Electrostatic charge?
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resource compilation

does /akm/ have its own do/k/ument? I'd like to get my greasy hands on it. post links with information on anything related to building weapons, we'll compile it
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Lessons from the war: Military analysis

What can we learn from the Russian invasion of Ukraine and this example of relatively modern warfare? Strategy, tactics, operations, geopolitical responses, information warfare, civilian pov and response. Anything related. Not the thread to talk about "who is in the right".
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Gunship Thread

Thread to appreciate gunships. Why are they so awesome?

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Is there anyone who would be willing to do a reading groups about warfare, strategy and tactics at a theory level? and possibly should, can or how could we use these concepts and theories into our own non-kinetic projects and more broadly the class/social war/.
I'd be very interested in this as it will help me grapple with the ideas bettert. We could do it on an easy to anonymously communicate platform and choose a book or theme collectively.
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Hohols discover how to turn a microwave into a Directed Energy Weapon

>Do you feel better knowing that with only a microwave, a stick, and a soup can, anyone can turn your mobile phone into a grenade?

>Their radioactive death-ray gun works on more than just cellphones. Most humans will be able to escape before it bakes them or gives them leukemia, but it has a tendency to quickly detonate gadgets. They've tested it on a number of electronics, no doubt left by their neighbors as they fled from a series of unexplainable explosions.

>Microwave weapons, also known as high energy radio frequency weapons, are not as uncommon as one might think and desperately hope. Besides entertaining mad Ukrainians in their backyard, they're used to disrupt or destroy digital equipment. It's as simple as aiming a beam at the thing you want to fry. It's also important to remember that energy like this doesn't necessarily need a clear line of sight. It can, for example, work through a wall or even a floor with enough power. So, if you've got 10 minutes and know exactly where your annoying neighbor's stereo is …
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Drone warfare

Thread to talk about drone warfare in general.

There are many ways drones can be used but I would like to talk about their potential use in protests and riots in the west.

In my experience something that is sorely lacking in protests going wild is intelligence about police postions, while the bad guys usually have a QG with plenty of operators gathering and distributing intelligence to police officers trough cameras, helicopters and, you guessed it, drones.

So, what's keeping us from using drones? Those for kids which are 50 bucks on amazon could do the trick, it would take a team of two, one pilot and one operative relaying intel trough a phone or a radio to someone in the front of the protest.

I know there are anti drone weapons, but they don't work that well and these aren't well established yet. In case of capture though it's good to prevent or render difficult a trace, so it would be smart to buy those drones trough proxies and false adresses, and scratch whatever number they have on them.
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Plausibly Deniable Weapons

Weapons are often the subject of criminal law and of surveillance. There are many people in situations where it is within their, or our, interest to be armed, but being caught with a weapon would be incriminating.

Three of the solutions of this are:
>hiding the existence of the weapon (generally ineffective if they are aware you may possess weapons, could be effective if no-one is doing a thorough search)
>hiding the purpose of weapon (obfuscation: think of a walking cane with a weapon concealed within. Probably ineffective if they know what they are looking for or are doing a thorough search)
>plausible deniability: having a believable excuse for possessing the weapon, or its components, at least if not in extreme amounts ("I have ammonium nitrate to fertilize my plants", "I have potassium nitrate as stump remover and sugar as a cooking ingredient", "I have petroleum in plastic cans from when fuel prices skyrocketed", "I am legally allowed to own airsoft rifles for recreational purposes", "Vodka isn't illegal and nor are old rags I need when painting.")

What are some plausibly deniable weapons? For the sake of slow board, it's fine to list highly-available typical protest weapons like Molotov cocktails (alcohol/petroleum are usually legal and unsuspicious when disassembled), laser beams and power-tools like nail guns, but I'm curious to see what the most useful weapons are that are completely unsuspicious when disassembled.

Example scenario: pigs know you are an organized radical anti-capitalist and find an excuse to do a general search, hoping to find drugs or unregistered guns or something. What, in it's disassembled form if necessary, could evade their suspicion?
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What do people think the consequences of the FGC-9 and the advent of 3D printed guns and weapons more broadly will be?

How will this affect revolutionary as well as reactionary violence? Will be see a rise in paramilitary organisations on the left capable of enforcing political demands, or is this just a going to lead to more fascist lone wolf attacks.

link to a documentary below
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Copy his style:

Resistive wires for the primers (you could get these from a hair dryer or electric heater), matchhead powder for the propellant (since black powder is too tedious to make the old fashioned way)(you can just buy those bigger boxes that have a hundred or so in them), some shot (you can make this out of some Hershey's kiss wrappers by balling them up and tapping them with a hammer until they are completely solid and hardened, before polishing them with sandpaper), a ramrod, stainless steel pipes + endcaps, a lipo battery, a dual light on/off switch for the triggers, and some wires to hook it all up (ofc). Plus some wood to strap the barrel apparatus on and for the grip. And vinyl tape.
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post ideas how to better defend and secure a compound / bunker

if the thread gains some traction ill post some more ideas ive gathered over the years
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/k/ - Guns in general

Just don't talk about gun control
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my glock 19 is too fuckin big

i want a smaller 9mm suggestions? something i can stick in a jacket pocket (IN A HOLSTER OF COURSE DIPSHITS) and i also want something with an optics cut because id like to get a red dot eventually.

am considering the hellcat, shield plus, kimber mako and glock 43x. i like the G43x but it seems to really not be much smaller than my 19.
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Nuclear submarines will never be fast

There’s a reason as to why they’re noticeably slower compared to other forms of transport and it’s because of water and pressure
Water is a polar molecule that uses hydrogen bonding to maintain form which means its boiling point is unsurprisingly high, this means it requires a FUCK TON of energy to move a submarine at conventional velocities, not to mention water pressure increases with depth on top of gravity means a submarine engine needs to produce the force required to overcome the boiling point of water on top of overcoming the gravitational pressure it experiences while being submerged, unsurprisingly this means most submarines are slow as shit and have to be transported with heavier machinery either airborn or at surface level
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Ammo Deals and reviews

Where are you getting ammo? Have you found any good deals online lately? Anything in particular you advise to avoid, or that you recommend?

I will start us off - recently went through about a hundred rounds of norma range and training.
Bought it at a shit price of like $0.50/round because LGS, seems to be available at a more reasonable $0.32/round online.
* grouped ok with no keyholing
* consistently failed to lock the slide back, however, there was no short stroking. could be a skill issue with me holding the slide release down by accident, i'm going to run it with some winchester white box and +P's and see if the issue persists.
overall im still not sure whether this round is good or not, so this is kind of a shit first post, but im hoping it will inspire some conversation+posting on good cheap ammo
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Thought we should have a caliber discussion since we keep having it in different threads.
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The Chechen Wars

I feel like most of the world has forgotten about the 1st and 2nd Chechen wars and I honestly see similarities in Ukraine, especially with Chechens fighting on either side and some fighting out of a pure hatred for Russia.

I'm curious to hear some lefty stances on them.
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excavating tunnels, trenches, ditches, ramparts, moats, holes, any kind of defensive earthwork where industrial machinery isn't viable

you can get most stuff off of amazon or any hardware or milsurp store
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US Domestic Gun Industry and Firearms Trafficking / Gunrunning

I know people have a lot to say about the MIC but it tends to overshadow this particular part of it.
I stumbled on this old reddit post and ended up down a rabbit hole due to the dead link in the comment, and it reminded me of Texan gun stores on the border being implicated in the cartel gun trade. Another is there's a pretty expensive AR-15 belt conversion that keeps finding its way into Mexico that I've seen on NarcoFootage. Operation Fast And Furious also needs no introduction.
So just how up to their neck in it are these domestic gun dealers? Are they incompetent, unwitting pawns, or knowingly supplying criminal groups weapons and playing dumb? Are they being enabled by glowies in some grand scheme? Is everyone a glowie but me, the pattern noticer?

Flood detected; Post discarded. btw
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DIY Spikestrips.

I was talking about spikestrips in another thread. Never looked them up before but it seems they are illegal in Texas and probably other states. Of course setting them up on a public road would be highly illegal regardless. So best bet to not get caught would be to set it up with no hope of recovery, but they're kind of expensive for that purpose.

So what would be a more cost effective DIY spikestrip? Maybe slicking the road although that might take a lot of oil. I guess a couple large nails in a 2x4 could potentially do the job although it would probably get smashed after a single car drives over it. Maybe putting screws through a metal pipe would work better.
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Electronic weapons

What do we do about e guns, e cannons, drones and other electronic based weapons in future wars? How will these machines respond to tech like EMPs and multilayered radars?
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art of war?

This leftypol is intriguing. It seems some people ere being referred to my blogsite from here. I am looking for ways to beat the shadow ban and get some traffic.

My latest act of bloggery, related to warfare, is found at https://yaxls.wordpress.com/2022/08/19/get-ready-for-world-war-two-and-a-half/ I think we are about to have another world war, but it will be a pretty feeble one, as world wars go.

I have other topics, too.
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hmmm today… i will post my favorite cat
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Poverty Guns

Are you poor as shit but still want to have a gun for protection or other purposes? Don't be unarmed, use this handy chart, and you too can be the proud owner of a firearm.
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Opening Ceremony of the 8th International Army Games

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Boots or sneakers?
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UK-Poland-Ukraine Trilateral

If AUKUS was tragedy, then this is farce
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Non lethal defense

So fascists are becoming reckless in my city and although I'm now terminally online enough to not get in those stupid fights anymore they since recently keep doing those retarded flash attacks on places leftists have. My old father sometimes does the dude at the counter ready to receive anyone in an anarchist library which was attacked like two days ago and there's no way I'm letting him keep doing that without any protection so I'm getting him weapons, but legal and non lethal. Since the fucks attacking come in between 5 and 20 people I want to get him a big ass pepper spray but the legal limit is 100ml here.

So is it sufficient to push away a cowardly rightist gang probably drunk? Are there any tricks to deter relatively big groups of retarded people without hurting anyone too much for a smart average joe using non lethal and legal weapon?

Also thread to discuss those weapons I guess.
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/milspo/ thread

Post pics related to war and the military - outfits, equipment, weapons, vehicles, doesn't necessarily have to be leftist
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what are some lesser known leftists guerilla/insurgent groups that you feel more people should know about it. . I was recently learning about the Dalforce, an insurgent group created the battle of Singapore, primarily made up of local chinese men who were members of various leftists parties, at most they had a month of training(at best) but mostly trained under armed a week, armed with machetes, shothuns and old hunting rifels, the resisted the Japanese and fought them up close, it was a doomed effort and they had a high causality rate but they fought till the end
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Post Awesome Looking Guns

You read the title. Post guns that look awesome.
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-Personal Armour
-Vehicle Armour
-Structural armour

Instructions, specifications, theory.
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Photon blinding weapons

A reminder that cheap cnc, cutting, welding, and 3d printing lasers can be used to instantly and irrevocably blind people at 1000s of feet.

If you combine frequencies it becomes extremely difficult to block with convention eyeprotection.

Combined with a firearm this allows a 1-2 knockout punch, as the blinding weapon will Temporarily dispell adrenaline from the target, allowing the firearm to do more damage
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Have you guys ever heard of the Littoral Combat Ships? Of course not, cause they're useless hunks of junk designed when the US decided they needed a wet F-35.

In all seriousness though, the LCSs are not only a failure in engineering of the individual ships and classes but also in initial concept. The LCS came about as a response to a need for small, fast, CHEAP ships to perform non-combat duties such as ASW and minesweeping. Almost every country in the 80s-90s had their fleet of support vessels nearing the end of their lifespan and so were busily working on next-generation replacements.

In both the East and West the form of this next generation of ships took two forms: Hydrofoils based on the design of the HMCS Bras d'Or which had perfected the design of hydrofoils as far as stability was concerned, and ground-effect vehicles. Ground effect vehicles are basically hovercrafts, OR Ekranoplans. The Ekranonplans planned to take over support roles were ironically larger versions of the Luna class since the weird thing about GEVs is that the bigger they are, the easier they are to control and are cheaper to maintain, so bigger=better in every way.

So while the rest of the world was designing their next generation on cutting-edge technology that had been proven in the last generation, what did the US do? They out-sourced their shipbuilding programme to a fucking aircraft designer; Lockheed-Martin. Lockheed did exactly what every US military contractor does and essentially created this concept of a Littoral Combat Ship to be a shallow water frigate with a streamlined hull. As many of you are going to point out, that's just a regular frigate. Because that's exactly what it was. The LCS was just a rebranded frigate meant for shallow water operations in the Gulf near the Middle East, with special gimmicks such as modular combat systems, 2 engine types to propel the ships at 70 knots, and a low radar silhouette. The latter is absolute BS btw, since "low radar silhouette" has been disproven by the Zumwalt fiasco.

Anyways, the first class of the series, the Independents failed every single one of the mentioned requirements. The 2 different engine types, a gasoline AND diesel turbines, failed miserably because they forgot each engine type had different torque and as a result broke the ship's gearbox, so instead of 70 knots the top speed was a whopping 5 knots… you walk faster than that. The system modules? Turned out they built the ship BEFORE the modules, and the modules turned out to be too big. OK but surely it's cheaper because of its small size right? Nope. Despite being a small frigate, the LCSs cost more to operate than the Allen Burke Destroyers. And they couldn't even perform ANY role.

OK but that's just the first class right? Surely it got better since there's been 3+ classes since 2002? Wrong. The follow up to the Independents was the Freedom Class(The US can't go 5 minutes without naming something after their ego), while these were better, that's not exactly a high bar. The best thing about the Freedoms was that there weren't total failures in that it mostly worked. However their ability was extremely scaled back, now they were just semi-hydrofoil frigates with some more automation. It worked fine as a frigate, except that's all it did. Even its automation didn't work as advertized, so for all intents and purposes it was just a more expensive regular frigate with a nifty semi-hydrofoil design that didn't actually work as a proper hydrofoil and more existed simply to wow Pentagon staff into thinking it was a new design. The Freedoms have since been cancelled for going 50% over budget and not offering any real advantages.

So where does that leave the LCSs today? Well I shit you not, but they've decided to bring back the Independents, because Lockheed promises they've fixed the gearbox issues, while all the other issues still remain. What that means is that they're scrapping all the old Independents, 9 in total and the newest being less than a year old, and building another 9 in the next 2 years to replace them…. instead of just fixing the old ones. While it is expensive to gut a ship's powerplant it's nowhere near the cost of building an entire new ship, so it's all just about that contract money surprise surprise.

Even if the LCSs did work perfectly, their concept of "Shallow Water Support Ships" is utterly stupid. The US has had a fixation for shallow water operations since the first Gulf War, even making their current generation of SSNs, the Virginia Class, designed for shallow water operations(Even though that goes against the entire concept of submarines and coastal submarines were deemed stupid over a century ago), yet since the Gulf War there's been no need whatsover for shallow water ships, and considering most of the ocean is deep water, making it so that ships are tied only to 5% of its entirety severely limits the strategic positioning of your fleets. Plus, if you build the shallow water ships, you're just going to have to build deep water equivalents for your main battlegroups, so you're doubling the cost of your ships overall when you could have just built half the number of ships but that do both. Which is exactly what the Ekranoplans and Hydrofoils from the 80s were supposed to do, since a large part of support ships is that they have to be flexible which LCSs are inherently not.

But it's the US, how could you ever expect them to design something proper? And the largest argument out there for the LCSs is that they provide building experience for the naval engineers, yet they're on 2 and a half classes now and STILL having the same issues, I don't know what lessons they're learning but they don't seem to be related to ship building.

TL;DR: US Built stupid ship that is stupid.
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Does anyone know the legalitys of joining the ypg or ifb whilst being an american or canadian citizen?
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Soviet deep battle/operations

Thoughts? There isn't much material over it on youtuber, but from what I gather, it's a materialist approach to warfare.
Instead of the classical Prussian doctrine of encirclement, deep operations focuses on breaking through to the back line and destroying communications and supply lines, which greatly help other areas of the line besides your own immediate victory, which the blitzkrieg focused on.
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if there's ever any legitimate reason to Arm Up As A Leftist you won't need anyone to tell you that and there'd be no reason to post about it online
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Babe wake up, new full auto FGC-9 plans just dropped

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No more guns for Canadiens. Pretty big news isn't it?

>All rifles are now illegal and will be bought back

>Ownership of handguns still legal but sale illegal, probably will be made illegal shortly.
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going to pride

I'm in Ohio, and I'm going to pride with my family. I'm worried about shit like idaho happening where I'm going. shitheads pictured

former military, but it's been a bit since I've shot. do plan on shooting again and familiarizing myself again.

Ohio allows concealed pistols now with no license

what should I buy?

money is not a major concern, was thinking about shit like ruger 9mm ofc. may also go with an ar15 as it's easy to find.

The problem with an AR tho is that it'll freak out the normies carrying it openly.
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Check out the new Rheinmetall tank, it has the new 130mm L51 cannon https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/vb9awg/new_rheinmetall_kf51_tank_equipped_with_130mm/
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So best small-arms ==> Russian
Best aircraft ==> American
Best tanks ==> ? (we can discuss this itt since it's probably the most controversial and divisive topic)
And for others;
Best drones?
Best missiles? (tactical or otherwise)
Best electronic warfare?
Feel free to add any other category of military technology to discuss which country has the best of it
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Hey /AKM/, what do you think of my new neck knife?
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Why have these two weapon systems stood the test of time? I know the UK uses the SA and China uses the QBZ but where else in the world you see other nations adopt these weapon systems? It seems that the m16 line and the Kalashnikovs have the most "mass produced" and used status.
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mass shooting survival general

Watching the latest NY shooter video got me thinking, how if at all possible could one survive a mass shooting? The first lady after he got out was doomed. The others seemed to be stuck with normalcy bias for a few seconds.

Is it better to run or to play dead, take cover?
Is normalcy bias bad, better to make a fool out of yourself overreacting to a nothingburger than to stand there in an actual shooting
Should one always walk behind some kind of cover in burgerstan? Seems like it is so common might as well
Daily body armor? Concealed carry without a permit?
Physical fitness is key, you should 100% be able to sprint fucking fast
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Last stand songs

Feel free to make some extra larpy fluff while in it.

Yes, i shamelessly stole this idea from a /k/ thread i saw once. Sue me.
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Drones and artillery are the best weapons

All other forms of war is gay when you have those two weapons, you don’t even have to move or deploy soldiers and equipment, just stand around and rain missiles and bullets on the target until troops move into seize the targets and you win.
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Is it time to stock up and have a series of boating accidents?
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Pistol-calibre carbines

These seem like the way to go for cheap, widely available personal rifles.

Share advice on models, ammo, magazines etc.
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Obscure gruella political literature
I'm sure everyone here has Che and Mao's guerilla warfare books downloaded at this point, but I'm curious about similar literature written by people in conflicts that were less famous
The Nepalese civil war, Western Sahara conflict, The Baloch conflict, Sri-Lankan communist insurgency
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Guns changed warfare

The design of guns isn’t what matters but the idea of long distance combat with the potential to kill an enemy soldier in a matter of a single to few hits in the right areas.

This revolution of war to be centered around staying as far away as possible from enemy troops made large scale battles pretty much obsolete in most wars today as being seen can often come with worse consequences than simply being executed with the potential for entire squads and bases to become doxed, along with the fact that more troops and weapons != to more success in combat especially when both or more armed groups in modern wars possess weapons that pretty much instakill with dozens to hundreds of these weapons like armour piercing bullets available per troop.

Coupled with the introduction of the radar briefly during the pacific battles against imperial Japan really began to amplify the importance of staying away from conflict in order to spare the lives of soldiers, equipment and weapons and to this day most of the real combat in wars is done via trying to collect as much information on what a states security threats have and are planning.
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/nvg/ - night vision goggles

Gonna start a thread on this since I just found something cool I want to share, will post it as a reply.
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Military traning

People talks a lot about having guns and being armed but I don't see anyone talking about training, organizing and acquiring equipment other than guns and ammo.
Why don't we go camping and pretend to be soldiers in campaign? That has to be better than just shooting at cans.
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Are Police Military Targets?

Can soldiers shoot cops of the enemy? Is this mentioned in the Geneva Conventions?
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How do people here feel about air guns?
Are they good for self defence? or offense?
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Why are they so afraid of a smol twisted paperclip?
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Canada General

are you ready comrades? there is a revolution coming in Canada
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Aesthetic gun sounds.
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"Ghost Gun" Ban

Biden has proposed measures to restrict home built firearms. I personally find this concerning, as the ability to produce firearms would be a boon to any communist militia or similar group. Yes, I know there are other ways to produce firearms and with enough people and money, an organized militia could do it legally even if such a ban passes by getting a license to manufacture firearms, or by forging receivers themselves.

All that being said, the ban seems like a nothingburger: the proposed restrictions, as far as I know, would only ban "build and shoot" kits that come with all the parts needed. Pawn shops and gun stores would also be required to serialize unserialized guns that are sold to them. So basically there is not going to be an outright ban on 80% receivers, you would just have to buy the parts separately. Thoughts?
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Low-effort Lounge

I don't have guns because it's illegal and family are anti-gun, but I did shoot an AK-47 and a Mosin Nagant when overseas. Shit was fun. (yes it was before becoming a socialist im not a lifestylist lmao) Bolt actions are just plain fun, more involved.

Pic unrelated; I have no guns
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/AK/ Kalashnikov General

This thread is for appreciating this board's namesake by posting AKs in all their many forms.
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Ok, I'm going to make the dreaded question.
Could normal size mechas (like, 1.5 storey tall) be actually viable in warfare?
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Why is the soundtrack in this Army training video so bumping? Everything from that error was funky smooth.
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Lefty Handgun General
Finally bought my first handgun edition. Fingered every handgun they had in stock but this one had a nice fit in my hand and wasn't too pricey. Did I do good akm?
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/GQTDDTOT/ Gun questions that don't deserve their own thread

Got any questions about guns, equipment or combat? Have some knowledge you can share? Ask and answer away
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itt we proposse meassures wich could improve the hypothetical shelling of an hypothetical "nation" by mostly using hypothetical rocket artilley
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Question about active radar missiles

So what I don't get about these missiles is that they are undetected by RWR until their active stage ("going pitbull" as they call it), which only happens once the missile is already very close to its targeted aircraft, making dodging it very difficult. What I don't get is how does the missile guide itself towards its target before it becomes active? Why does it not trigger RWR during this period?
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describe the ideology of the new Zealander who believes in pic related
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Forbidden weapons

Do you partake in the forbidden
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Ukrainian guns for sale.

Check out your local craigslist. You'll find some good deals on Ukrainian AKs right now.
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cursed weapons and guilty pleasures

post 'em

i want 'em
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The major contradiction of WMDs

These weapons are made for the purpose of harming a large number of people, the contradiction they have as useful weapons of war is their purpose.
In most wars an army can be expected to deploy the lowest amount of troops and supplies possible as to ensure the lives of its soldiers are safe and the government it works for has surplus army supplies it can use to maintain its security over a state and the potential success of coming out victorious n future armed conflicts. WMDs contradict this basic behaviour by their own nature, if any armed conflict ever breaks out so violent that weapons that need to kill hundreds of thousands to millions need to be mass produced that represents a problem with how 2 or more armies are fundamentally approaching war and are said armies will have their governments invest in better infrastructure and machinery that can counter the effects of WMDs along with tools to make war less lethal as to ensure surplus troops. Evidence of this can be seen in the Cold War which saw an arms race to develop tech that could detect and down a nuke before it hits or launches like the internet and satellites, hazmat suits to counter radiation damage, or ww1 which saw the development of gas masks by garret morgan as a means to counter the effects of mustard gas and bio agents etc.
In conclusion WMDs are useless in warfare as the concept of a WMD itself contradicts the policies any properly maintained army would make to ensure its longevity and security in fulfilling its tasks, for every hypersonic ICBM developed there are radars made of reflective material detecting and sending missiles towards it before it can hit its target.
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Why isn't the invasion of manchuria ever talked about?
It's easily in the running for one of the greatest feats of warfare ever executed as it was instrumental in the Japanese surrender, yet overshadowed by the enola gay.
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>wants a gun to “defend himself” from the American government and libruls
>buys guns and ammo exclusively from American govt corporations like the NRA and liberal economies
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How do people land this fucking thing

It’s too fast, so fast to the point where if you were driving a car you would need to be hours away from your destination to properly land this fucking thing when it’s zipping around at hundreds to thousands of kilometres an hour l
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What's the most pointless war in recent history?
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So this happend

The US tried to capture a "terrorist" in Idlib, the helicopter the special forces were using ended up getting shot down.
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Simulated Naval Battle Between China and America

How accurate is this?
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Not much of a military fag but was the USSR not even a horde? You always see it portrait as such in the movies that the USSR was a horde of people while the nazis were elite and superior but outnumbered
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>ammo prices still too fucking high
>try making nitrocellulose with nitric acid and ping pong balls
>buy 500 ping pong balls
>they're all made of plastic
>now I just have a bunch of nitric acid and ping pong balls
help a poor uyghur out
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The Early Years of Accuracy

As is known, the earliest example of guns, your matchlocks and percussion cap rifles were not really the most accurate things in the world, so aiming was seen as more "point in the general direction and hope for the best" more than a tool to increase accuracy. This would carry over into WW1, while the rifles were indeed much more accurate, to the point of aiming allowing soldiers to hit targets from great distances with great, well, accuracy, the military high commands of that era were sluggish to realize just how industrialization had changed warfare - it was not until the interwar period that there was serious experimentation on how to perfect the new mode of war, and to discard the old Napoleonic era of tactics in favor of what we generally recognize as modern warfare.

This stance in pic 1 being used is an old school sport shooting stance. It's actually a very accurate stance, as it puts the fulcrum of the rifle in line with the shooters center or mass. But, it's an impractical position for warfare, as it requires to be both standing upright as well as fully still. Though, at the time nations started to field snipers, the majority of them were trained by or just were hunters and sport shooters - many of the USSR's snipers were just country boys who enjoyed hunting turning their skills into tools to destroy fascism.

Another adaptation of the era was pistols - though they had existed prior, their mass utilization by infantry was entirely new, and there was very little standardization of shooting stances for accuracy. What ended up getting adopted by most nations was largely their "officer's stances", which was a position that was once used for holding aloft officer's swords, before pistols became the status symbol of the office. Pic 2 is the American army, pic 3 the Germans, and pic 4 the English. The only concern of this stance is getting the shot on target, it was popular with dueling and target shooting. If you've seen videos of people shooting like this, you'll know there's very little recoil control - making it impractical for warfare due to difficulty of follow up shots. You can see an example of these kinds of hold-over firing positions in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP7J-JNSUu4
A lot of these old stances have no modern equivalents in warfare, but others are the ancestors to our modern forms.
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Battleship Construction

How are battleships made?
what would a country need for it to have domestic ship construction?
what does a nation need these days to be a naval power?

Anybody know where to start with learning about modern naval warfare production and tactics?
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What in this world will ever be as powerful as a good old fashioned cannon? ARRRRRRRRRD!
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>Can't do military service or join a militia because I'm deaf from one ear.
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A thread for the extremely versatile rifle, produced by Soviets/Russians (Tula/Izhevsk), Chinese (Norinco), Yugo/Serbs (Zastava) to this day and available as (relatively) cheap surplus pretty much anywhere.

Thinking of converting a Type 56 for hunting and range shooting.
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how much of BUD/S is pointless masturbation?
how were spetsnaz chosen and trained?
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Should this board be renamed to lowercase?
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I wanted to share this for a while, these are two articles from a magazine/newspaper local to medellín, the first article is a memoir from a FARC commander from the time they took down an army base and took down a plane with a high ranking officer and the second is how statelessness in urabá helped to bloom the paramilitaries in that area.
Now I really wish somebody could translate these
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<From focal +‎ -ism.


<focalism (uncountable)
<<(psychology) Synonym of anchoring
<<A revolutionary strategy which posited that military vanguardism could lead to general rebellion.


<(revolutionary strategy): foquism
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QBZ-191/Type 191

Recent Norinco rifle for the PLA replacing the QBZ-95/Type 95 bullpup. Has normal assault rifle, carbine and DMR variants, more info in the attached video.
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Specialized Soviet Suppresed Weapons

As you (hopefully) know, a gun suppressor doesn’t completely eliminate the sound created by a firing gun. Instead, it suppresses the noise significantly by capturing and slowly releasing the rapidly expanding gases used to propel a bullet out of the gun barrel. When firing a gun, the gunpowder in the bullet casing ignites, creating an immense amount of pressure. This pressure propels the bullet down the barrel of the gun, pushing the round at incredible speeds. When the bullet exits the barrel, the pressure is released and an extremely loud noise is produced. What a suppressor does is provide a larger space for the pressure and hot gases to expand after exiting the barrel. The gases expand as they are heated when the gun fires, but the suppressor traps and slowly releases this gas, resulting in a much quieter shot. Other aspects of a suppressor that help to mute sound include the science of heat transfer and metallurgy.

But for the Soviet Union, the conventional form of suppressors bolted onto the gun was simply not enough. Some bright spark decided to reinvent the wheel. He looked at the usual barrel silencer and figured they're such crap because it doesn't make much sense to try to muffle the bang at the barrel's end, since it happens all the way back, as the compressed gunpowder explodes and the resulting gas violently expands. So he went and designed a fancy bullet case which trapped the gases inside itself, so it's actually more appropriate to say the technology is silent ammon rather than silent guns, the latter of which was designed after the former. They also were designed to minimize the secondary noise of that is the clang of moving parts, so it became inaudible beyond a few meters. Further, the third and last source of noise, case ejection, was wholly sidestepped by keeping the spent, gas-filled cases trapped in the gun itself, which further adds to the stealth. Add the complete lack of a muzzle flash, and it's as stealthy as it gets.

The downside is that it loses power and has lowered effective range, but with such a stealthy weapon, distance wasn't supposed to be a factor for the user. It's also, unsurprisingly, more expensive to manufacture than common ammo.

The prototype was named SP-1. That and SP-2 saw use only in Bond-style specialty guns, like the infamous cigarette case, the TKB-506 and TKB-506A. Later on, some different group ceated the PZ/PZA/PZAM round line, much bigger because they were intended to be used in a proper pistol, S4M, with higher ranges. To this, they added a clever detail: the projectile would resemble one fired by an AK-47 from at least a few hundred meters away, thus explaining the lack of a spent case and throwing off investigations. I don't know if this feature would be replicated later.

Still, the spooks at the KGB weren't satisfied with these weapons because of their size. So the original guy went back to the drawing board and made the SP-3, to pack a good punch while being small. But only with SP-4 and the PSS pistol designed for it would silent ammo become a class of gun on its own. All previous rounds left a spent casing actually longer than an unspent one. With that out of the way, they could use clips, whereas beforehand, they could only hold, at most, two single-loaded shots. The SP-4 was so successful that they further developed the SP-5 round for the AS assault rifle and its sister, VSS sniper rifle, and later on, made an armor-piercing version, SP-6. Those three guns have updated designs after the break-up, and are still in use by spec-ops, spooks and such.

Because of the lower power, the PSS, AL and VSS have effective ranges of only about 25, 300 and 400 meters, respectively.

Besides that trio, the egghead behind the silent ammo and some of its guns designed a SP-4-using revolver in 2001. In 1994, a sniper rifle capable of using some common ammo as well as SP-5 and SP-6 was designed to be a lower-cost alternative to the VSS, the VSK-94. I haven't found any information as how the two of them compare, but they seem to have the same effective range.

These seem to be the only truly silent guns used in anything approaching large scale. It surprises no one that none of these have been sold commercially, and they're extremely rare, especially in the West. Not to mention the specialized ammo is similarly restricted. Speaking of which, the SP denomination has still been used for a while but starting from SP-7, they aren't silent, so I dunno why bother using that naming.

There are recent developments to replace the AL and VSS lines. In 2017, the Kalashnikov Concern (seriously, that's the company's name now, cyberpunk as fuck) showed a still-in-development assault rifle, AM-17, whose AMB-17 variant can use the same ammo as the VSK-94, and thus operate silently. More impressive is an unnammed sniper rifle shown in 2018 based on the MTs-116M, a rather redundant weapon, with a wholly separate design history from the rest mentioned here. This new one will use special, new ammo using the SP technique, but with a preposterous .50 caliber round, with an effective range of 700m. That's some serious shit. It's an investment in Russia's current, considerable advantage in sniper warfare, which will be particularly valuable in the coming decades, where the expected typical battle terrain will be urban centers. In one Russian New Generation Warfare Handbook, the suggested engegamenet when faced with a Russian sniper is: don't. "Any enemy marksman in an established position will create a minimum of two casualties per engagement with little to no repercussions", so the longer you take to leg it, the worse.
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Military History

Most people interested in military history tend to be shallow, sensationalist, and/or implicitly or explicitly fascist or otherwise imperialist in nature. We can do better than that, right?

What does applying Marxist histography to war look like beyond Lenin's Imperialism and what can we learn from it?
Which wars /battles do you think deserve more attention or education?
Is there a particular leader or theorist who's impressed you with their military acumen?
What armed conflicts do you anticipate in the 2020s and 2030s?
What do you think is the future of war in an increasingly technologically advanced, post-nuclear world?
Ask questions. Share resources, pictures, or whatever's on your mind. Everything goes so long as it's on topic. +1 social credit for talking about something besides the world wars.