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/AKM/ - Guns, weapons and the art of war.

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You read the title. Post guns that look awesome.


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>first pic
Thanks for the nut, OP.
In return.


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Im nogun but I like the look of the rifles with a grip like picrel
Something about it being a literal boomstick is just so cool to me


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More like cursed gun designs


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>sawed off tommy
>still a full sized wooden stock


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>firing a machine gun without a stock


Would look better with a wooden grip I think
It's only 9mm


45 acp akshually


Fuck I knew I should have checked


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Oh, absolutely.


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The paratrooper ones are quite cool too


aren't FALs notoriously bad even for military use? is the MD any better


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I've never heard anyone complain about them, why, do they have a bad reputation in Brazil? Assuming you're from there. What's weird about the MD is that Brazil had a bunch of FALs, invented a conversion kit to change them to 5.56, never went through with it and then just built the MD.


iirc the galil was created because the IDF was frustrated with their FALs


maybe just israeli death squads being dumb af


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Well at the time everyone was weaning off battle rifles, Israel probably wanted to stay NATO compliant and have a better round in a less cumbersome gun. Problems with the FAL are basically:
1) Rifle cartridge
2) It's big and heavy
3) Low capacity
All the problems I know of are that it's a battle rifle, rather than the problem being it's a FAL. You can solve most of these by moving down to an intermediate cartridge, you can already see a couple of inches off the barrel and ten more rounds gained in the second pic of >>272 but I looked it up and the MD is for some reason 0.7kg heavier than the already heavy FAL lol
Pics to show how big the guns are side by side:
M14, Galil, FAL


Oh my bad the second one in the first pic is a G3A3, didn't look properly before posting


Should have at least put a hinge on the stock to fold it otherwise what point is there in sawing the barrel down?


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>do they have a bad reputation in Brazil?
They're just seem as outdated and inadequate for the context of the country, not exactly bad, but they have been in service for over 60 years now, and have definitely shown their age.

To better exemplify what i mean, picrel is the IA2, an assault rifle which has been developed to substitute both the regular FN FAL and PARA version, and features these advantages of the Belgium platform:
>lighter by factor of 1,1 kg
>more accurate; doesn't have nearly as bad of a kick as the FAL
>better endurance over the countries' biomes
>better suited for combat scenarios of 300 m distance, rather than the 600 m, which is basically a post WW2 mentality
>smaller caliber; firefights in favelas/slums with 7,62 caliber guns leave a revolting amount of people dead due to stray bullets, so i guess 5,56 can somewhat remedy that

In case anyone is interested in it, here's an article talking about it:

And a translation of it:


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Blessed nugget


If they're just fighting at 300m and don't want bullets penetrating everything, why don't they just use an SMG?


What smg can you use at 300m? Also afaik 9mm and other heavy, short pistol caliber rounds typical of smgs retain a lot more energy after impact than 5.56, and so over-penetration and ricochets are a bigger concern


You know I just saw 300m and my monkey brain jumped to the design specs of the PPSh which was designed for combat within 300m, but it falls quite a bit short of being effective at 300. I did some looking though so I didn't look completely ridiculous and supposedly the P90 has 300m well within its max range, but is 100m short of effective.


Oh okay lol. According to the US army technical manual the individual target range for 5.56 out of a carbine is 547 yards. And for a full length rifle it is 602 yards. Actual combat distance is usually confined to within 300m as you mentioned. The ppsh was only sighted out to 200m so I doubt it would be very accurate much farther than that, but I could be wrong. FN suggests the p90 is effective up to 200m, at which it will also defeat level 3 body armour with the standard SS190 round upon a successful hit. At 400m the p90's standard SS190 round will deliver 62.69 ft-lb of energy, just above the 60 ft-lbs required to deliver a disabling injury according to the US army. However most sources seem to agree that the p90's maximum effective range is around 200m. AFAIK 9x19mm such as in a mp5 has a shorter effective range. No smgs I am aware of will cover up to 300m effectively, which is why the intermediate rifle cartridges were developed. IMO the 5.56 is an excellent cartridge and possibly the all round best, most versatile caliber in common military use.


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Very sexy and reliable, but unwieldy and heavy af. My dad had to use that shit when he was in the army, luckily by the time I was in we were using the C7s.


ooh, that camo green and the bayonet are sexy
i live extremely close to colt canada's factory rn lol


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why are you in the military


I'm not anymore. I was in the reserves for a couple years to learn the basics of military operations. As soon as I was trained I left, they never even got a domestic deployment out of me.


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That's a lot of expensive glass.


What do you mean?


He is talking sbout the optics on the guns. Could very well be worth more than the guns themselves depending.


This is around what people pay on the commercial market - civilian C7's are about the same, but who knows how much less the government pays. Personally, I think the OS4x from the same company is a better optic for less money, but I doubt the CAF have plans for an upgrade any time soon.


>but I doubt the CAF have plans for an upgrade any time soon
Bruh they still use pistols from WW2.


heard they're doing trials for a newer one now that the belgian factory that makes browning hi-power's stopped making them
if they're smart they'd go with the P226 or P320


Springfield just started making new reproductions of the hi power this year. They call it the SA-35, it can even use the old mags. Not sure if Canada would buy more instead of upgrading to a modern design.


thank fuck for corruption and superstition of the victor


btw this beautiful creature is a mosin nagant sniper from the 2000's Russian federation. They needed something to do with all the m1891/30 rifles laying around. The original gun is almost a hundred years old. the ammo today is 130 years old. It is quite good looking in my opinion but according to this Russian site the accuracy isn't great for a modern sniper rifle, although it has a bit under a half of the spread of the SVD designated marksman rifle at 100m as well as being shorter in overall length due to the bullpup design.


they're def pushing for modernization now


lol. Why are they only modernizing their enfields? Why not procure a more modern firearm? What's the deal with the Canadian rangers anyways?


the rangers basically do what the mounties were originally meant for: patrolling the vast north
>Why not procure a more modern firearm?
they did


Rangers also get to test out the newest high tech bright red camo.


you don't really need camo when you're only shooting animals from 1000+ ft


When I was in the CAF I knew a few dudes who worked with the Rangers. Apparently it was just a bunch of rednecks and natives who roll around the tundra on snowmobiles and quads. Sounds like a good time tbh.


>Australians modified their FALs to make thm louder
>called these rifles "The Bitch"


>gives themselves even more hearing damage for no discernible benefit
wow based


>not using short-barreled 7.62x51 in close quarters



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>Australians modified their FALs to make thm louder
For what purpose?


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I think most bullpups look disgusting af, however a bullpupized PKM is lowkey kinda sexy imo


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Interesting? Yes. Awesome? ehhhh


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i fuck with this bigly however


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Calico M960 is the best SMG ever made.


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