/anime/ - Anime

sounds awful
but all too typical
i just know they make fun of conspiracy theories so it is compromised show in my eyes

Why is this in /anime/?

>>12489
there's no /co/
even tho western animation is generally superior and more culturally accessible

>>12490
>even tho western animation is generally superior
doubt that, most of it is generic looking copies of one another, at least they are copying gravity falls style which is good.

>>12487
>(disgustingly named 'Reagan')
kek
rest of your post is retarded though

another calarts style discount bin show who even cares

>>12490
the only good western animation that came out recently was Bojack and F for Family (which I like the best of the two).
And no Smiling Friends is pretty mediocre.

>>12494
>[western animation is] generic looking copies of one another

Anime, of course, is famously known for its depths of visual diversity.

>>12506
yeah no

Western animation has the same problem with creative homogeneity that anime does, but arguably even worse. At least with anime you occasionally get something like Perfect Blue or Memories. Whereas 99% of mainstream "adult" animation in the west is just lol edgy humor xDDD randum

>>12505
smiling friends got old real quick. You can tell it was made by a bunch of youtubers

>>12509
watership down and the plague dogs are also independent breakthroughs among many - not everything mature has to be "adult" either. i am not giving zero-sum odds about all this, i like both anime and western animation i just prefer the west since i am nt looking to escape my cultural membrane.

>>12509
You're almost correct, If you amended to
>99% of mainstream "adult" animation in the west in the past decade is just lol edgy humor xDDD randum
then you'd be totally right, because frankly speaking the degradation of animated movies and tv series in both Japan and The West have been relatively recent and began in the late 2000s/mid 2010s, as computer programs made spamming poor cgi and lazy, computerized moe-face much more expedient and subsequently meaning no effort is put into the series at all. In the past, even mediocre or bad shows had art styles and drawn animations that at the very least had pleasant aesthetics, compared to today.

>>12504
>muh cal arts
Ahahahahahahah retard animation in the west is more diverse in style than ever

>>12528
>animation in the west is more diverse in style than ever
It really isn't. Japan is by no means a benchmark today but it isn't as egregiously lazy as mainstream animations of the west (particularly the USA).

>>12531
Dude I mean in cartoon style compare 2010-2020s cartoons to the 1900s and you’ll see a noticeable variant in the quantity of diversity in style present in modern western animation compared to the past. Primal, amphibia, Korra, adventure time, regular show, final space you get it, even if digital animation is ugly as shit and looks to clean to say the new resources and tech available to animators today compared to the past is just irresponsible

>>12528
Uh oh hit a nerve didn't I. Learn to draw properly!

lmao imagine arguing about children's cartoons,
you two should off yourselves.

>>12533
>cartoon style compare 2010-2020s cartoons to the 1900s
I assume you mean the 20th century and not literally the 1900s, because that's otherwise a retarded statement
>Korra
Animation studio is located in S.Korea and is not common place, moreover the actual LoK is shittier than the original ATLA as a story. Even CGI animation is poorer compared to a decade ago - Compare Clone Wars and Transformers Prime to several animated 3D CG series today such as transformers Robots in Disguise (the 2nd one).
>Primal
limited run and not all that mainstream
>amphibia
Again it's not as mainstream as "Loud House", Steven Yunivers and several others that are clearly shitty, idpol driven, poorly animated and no-effort artstyle.
>Regular show
>Adventure Time
Never liked it but that's subjective, the artstyle's noodle-limbs are objectively lo-effort, and this is further demonstrated by poor shading and other aspects
>Final Space
Again, not very mainstream outside of /co/ and other niche consumers
>tech available to animators today compared to the past is just irresponsible
The fuck are you on about. Tech today permits people to singlehandedly pull off animations that in the past needed entire teams to hand animate for months, yet artstyle gets more simplistic and undetailed as time goes on and animation becomes lazy or loose - that's irresponsible.

>>12540
Imagine coming onto a board called "anime" and not expecting a discussion about animation and artstyle. Also the "le for kidz" meme is indicative of your idiocy (or you being a troll).

>>12553
Literally all of this shit is cope. The fact that shows like helluva boss can even exist today would’ve been considered a marvel in the 80s, you even said it yourself that the tech available allows single artists to pull off shit entire teams can make and your only response to every show I listed that’s animated well is
>ooga booga not popular enough
Meanwhile shows like Rick and morty of all things have only seen consistently improving animation quality since their first airing.

Anon you’re coping, modern animation is fine

>>12553
I mean is it not for kids? come on. allright maybe its not for kids but its not for normal, well adjusted adults either, its more for autistic teenagers and retarded adults.

>>12555
>all of this shit is cope
No, not really. Helluva Boss is not that good compared to older material, made using comparably more lacking tech.
>would’ve been considered a marvel in the 80s
LMAO you clearly have not seen 80s animated films and series.
>said it yourself that the tech available allows single artists to pull off shit entire teams can make
Yes, people that do it for free on youtube make better animations and ideas than the current mainstream of animation, because computers permit talent to independently function a little and not get immediately pigeonholed into exploitative animation studios (though that is the eventual outcome). See pic related. My point is that entire teams of "pros" TODAY are producing mediocre results at best despite all the tech and money they have compared to their predecessors in the 90s and 80s.
>ooga booga not popular enough
Not an argument, but nice scarecrow. Mainstream means definitive of the average trend, not relatively obscure outliers. Thus my argument stands.
>Le Rick and Morty
<Hurr muh noodle arm is improving!
The artstyle is bland and the plots are a combination of Doctor Who and Futurama but "le edgy funnies". The animation is actually less impressive than Family Guy and Futurama, the former being a dumpsterfire of a series and the latter being over a decade old at this point.
Pic related
>Anon you’re coping, modern animation is fine
<Professional Animators repeatedly speaking about the degradation of animation and art-style is nothing, it's fine
Сказал тот у кого нескем сравнивать

>>12556
>It's for le kidz
Animation is generally for kids, but that doesn't mean it should be trash, if anything that makes it even more important, as children up to the age of 12 are very impressionable, and according to research, incapable of discerning fiction or reality; thus a bratty, shitty main character behaving like a retard and it getting laughed off or approved tells kids "yeah, that's a good thing to emulate".
A little crude and dumb humor and silly shit is fine, that's the freedom of animation, but there is a difference in having moderated fun and just being a brainless Tik-tok-tier idiot that has a 5 second attention span.

For many (young) kids, seeing a crude joke and many colors is enough to satisfy their sense of humor and adventure. What do they really know of irony and complex motives and moral themes or questions and long form humor, the stuff of beauty in sequential and written art? Very little. BUT the purpose of a good cartoon is to weave such ideas in an understandable way as you tell a fun story, thus Avatar The Last Airbender being a benchmark for animated story telling in Western media.

A kid accustomed to crappy quality content, grows to be an impulsive consumer accustomed to shitty quality content. A consumer accustomed to shit quality content is easy to milk for money. Do this to en masse and you basically have slaves, whose primary belief is trading a "pay so much, get so little" and as a consequence, the masses descend into utterly lacking quality control while corporate swine bathe in the misbegotten money of a whole generation raised two steps more into slavery as they are turned into infantile manchildren that cry about dumb shit (see the entirety of /co/ for an example of that).

TL;DR: "A children’s story which is enjoyed only by children is a bad children’s story." – C. S. Lewis

>>12578
>there is simultaneously a massive labor shortage in animation and also the pay is shit
i'm calling /r/thathappened on that pic

>>12555
Oh no, you set him off.

>>12487
I've watched it, its "meh", also its not really political more something by smug liberals who think they know better then everyone else. also the MC is a self insert of the author
the author is a half japanese/white and the MC is also half Japanese/white, her being smarter then everyone else but also "quirky and relatable" is just wish fulfillment

overall its a mediocre show, not bad or good, I'd watch if it was on TV or something but nothing else stands out

>>12590
>half white half Japanese

Oh god 0_0 a fucking happa

>>12592
Half Japanese Half Jewish woman, she makes "urgh I hate mediocre white men" comments, even though in her goddam show she's being paired up with a white male character

>>12580
>redditor denies the truth
LMAO

>>12590
>not really political more something by smug liberals who think they know better then everyone else
I think that's the point OP is making, they never have any political nuance, just smug idpol liberalism, but it's meant to have political themes.

>>12597
>but it's meant to have political themes
is it though, its more taking the piss out of the concept of shadow governments that people believe in and just using it as a set piece for there slice of life sci-fi show

>>12598
That's my point, it's doing a basic bitch "parody" of [X] political thing, as a front for smug liberalist posturing.

I enjoyed the partner of the main character, he's dumb but still a bro.

>seems to be custom-crafted to get women to wish to identify with her
She's literally an aspie.

>yet at the same time cooler, more charismatic, and less inhibited
Did we watch the same show?

>>12758
nta buts its kinda true, despite being depicted as "loser" in the show she's been shown to have romantic relationships all throughout her life and even gets her Universe's james bond to simp for her

>>12765
>despite being depicted as "loser" in the show she's been shown to have romantic relationships all throughout her life
Not everything is about sex. One of the biggest losers I know is a pathetic bipolar fatass who constantly gets laid.

>>12766
>a pathetic bipolar fatass who constantly gets laid.
>loser
If he gets laid constantly, then he has something going for him then.

>>12765
That's called being a Mary Sue

>>12758
>literally an aspie
Or at least Hollywoods idea of one

>>12780
If you're going to make "has had sex" as your sole trait of being a loser then you need to get your priorities checked, my man. The guy is constantly lamenting himself to the point of literally crying and his mental illnesses make him constantly alienate most of the people around him, but he's also a nympho.

>>12781
>make "has had sex" as your sole trait of being a loser
I'm not, you're deliberately being obtuse.
A) "constantly gets laid" ain't the same as "has had sex"
B) I pointed out that if that fatty "constantly gets laid" then they have something going for him for that to happen
>The guy is constantly lamenting himself to the point of literally crying and his mental illnesses make him constantly alienate most of the people around him
LMAO that's not really a being a loser, that's depression and mental affliction.
>he's also a nympho
That doesn't mean he gets laid constantly though, or does he hire hookers all the time?

>>12782
>that's depression and mental affliction
sounds like a huge loser to me

>>12782
also,
>B) I pointed out that if that fatty "constantly gets laid" then they have something going for him for that to happen
don't we all
having sex and pretty much all of social phenomena are numbers games

>>12783
>depression and mental affliction
<sounds like a huge loser
You sound like an asshole, though admittedly I don't know "fatty" and can't make a concrete deduction, but regardless those attributes alone do not make a person a "loser"
>having sex and pretty much all of social phenomena are numbers games
Huh? IDK what you mean by that, but there's a reason that a "loser" usually is a "kissless virgin" (and often a NEET) according to the general social definition of one.

Wow, she looks like she is literally me. Maybe I should watch this after all.

>PMC
this will never be a class no matter how hard you wish for it

>>14624
are you single?

>>14636
read lenin child. sage