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I'm not trying to start anything or get into any kid of idpol argument.

I'm just wondering why so many anime, many of which never receives a release outside of Japan, and takes place in Japan, is filled with characters who are obviously not Japanese.

Picrel, with a redhaired green-eyed character and a blue-eyed blonde, in the anime, both are native Japanese. They also have big noses like Caucasians.

What's going on here?

My guess is when you can have characters with any color you want it'd be boring if everyone had black hair and black eyes.

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>>13036
Basically. Same reason so many characters have unreal hair colours.

The real interesting question is why they are so enamored with Germans…

It was the style at the time. Now they don't have noses. I don't think this "Asiatics are so envious of the crackers" take is very well thought out. Anime is however a mutation of walt-disney stuff though.

>>13037
>The real interesting question is why they are so enamored with Germans…
The idealized or simulation of German culture and royal British culture is like a fantasy land of order and divine rights to privilege.

That at least appeals to me because being rich and powerful just because would be pretty sweet and I don't feel I deserve any less.

And order in this fantasy German culture is nice because stupid shit wouldn't be happening all around me that makes no apparent sense.

My 2c

>assuming peoples ethnicity
very problematic desu

>>13036
Idk, Miyazaki does that in most of his films and they still have plenty of character and personality.

They aren't caucasian. They are generic and cartoony. You see them as caucasian because either you are caucasian or come from a predominantly caucasian place where non-specific cartoons look "white." The trend is to make people similar to your own ethnicity look generic while making people of other ethnicities have more exaggerated features.

Burger cultural imperialism

>>13043
Yeah, I’ve noticed that there are only handful of animators that give their characters a more japanese look than others

What's really irritating is when they use blue eyes and blonde hair as a characteristic trait of British characters.

>>13034
Japan has an obsession with germany/ very white Europeans in general
Many characters either are half European/Japanese, have blonde hair and blues eyes, or randomly speak German.
Not to mention fully Caucasian people shoved into their media, but have a weird aversion to anyone that isn't of European decent.
Also, they still have a problem with portraying black people yet have no problem drawing white/europeans

>>13130
>Many characters either are half European/Japanese, have blonde hair and blues eyes, or randomly speak German.
and all of them have huge melons

All their faces look the same so you need something else to tell them apart.

They are usually Asian not Caucasian. They just look Caucasian to other Caucasians because of the simplified sylization and how characters are not all depicted as having black hair and black eyes. There is more European characters than exist in Japan though yes but that often is taking place in another country and just is there for for variety and perhaps to appeal to the foreign market in some instances.

Anyway Asian characters looking like Caucasians stems from from past Western influence bringing in white supremacist ideals of appearance into Japanese and South Korean culture. You even can find eye tape/glue in Asian markets because some want that Caucasian double fold.

>>13131
That's korean btw

didnt animation industry start/get kickstarted b/c of western influence or something. idk

>>13362
Japanese animation took stylistic influence from Disney and French animation.

>>13364
and then weeb westernoids complain about their own culture while the japs worship it.

>>13411
You might be off by a couple of decades with this "analysis".

>>13412
i forgot that all anime now shows characters with small slant eyes and buck teeth. at least what is japanese about anime is that there is pedophilia in every show just about.

>>13414
Okay.

>>13364
Japanese anime predates Disney p sure.

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>>13034
Short answer: That is what the majority of the market wants and they are in the business of selling views of their anime.

Some studios recognize that non-whites are part of their audience and have an ensemble of protagonists , such as "Black lagoon" that had Rock , a Japanese man , Revy a Chinese-American woman , Dutch an African-American and Benny , a white (Jewish?) American . and it was pretty well received. Probably because they concentrated on making storytelling their first and only priority and left idpol at the door.

>>13418
Tezuka got inspiration from Disney

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>>13419
>white (Jewish?) American
pic rel. Also recurring cast included the Russian Balalaika and the soldiers under her command, the Chinese mafia, an Indian money counterfeiter girl, and a ex-FARC militant maid from Colombia. Black Lagoon is really damn diverse.

https://x.com/i/status/1652617194247782402
>Rei Murasame

>Whenever the one on the right is displayed, it's then understood as existing only in contrast to the one on the left.

>
>Usually this doesn't happen in anime. Ordinarily, whiteness is simply not present at all, because all characters are Asian unless otherwise specified.

This is one way to try to go argue about the question of what race.

>>13034
>big eyes and colored hair are Caucasian
The OP doesn't know what an artstyle is.

Cause Japanese people are unironically racist and brainwashed to worship the vile whitoids that killed their ancestors for sport

>>23256
Racism implies hatred. The Japs are definitely not self-hating (many of them are nationalists). And the portrayal of black people became better over time. And anime characters have bigger eyes and colorful hair because the mangaka rely on eyes to convey emotion and because the color of one's hair conveys one's personality and just makes their designs plain unique. There's a joke that if you remove all the hairstyles and hair and eye colors the characters will all look the same.

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I mean technically they're shaved kemono of some sort.


>>13034
1. the "normal" anime style is a mutation of disney, as another anon pointed out. Disney has always been popular in Japan, and it was a huge formative influence on manga and anime
2. said style is often drawn with only the vaguest possible shit given giving towards what XYZ ethnicity looks like IRL. To most japanese people, anime characters just look like stylized japanese, and when a character is a different ethnicity, boy howdy does it let you know

>>13411
A lot of that is a holdover from the 90s/00s/early 10s. Back then most western animation was either family stuff or edgy sitcoms. As trashy as anime as a whole has always been, at the time, it was one of the few places where you actually occasionally saw animated movies and showed geared at adults that took themselves seriously. You didn't see a whole lot of western stuff doing the equivalent of something like Perfect Blue or Angel's Egg

That said, the situations has been changing as more mainstream western animation is exploring dramatic stories intended for older audiences. Probably the most famous example I can think of is stuff like "Love, Death and Robots"

>>23264
>when a character is a different ethnicity, boy howdy does it let you know
It's still not necessarily exaggerated or even a difference in facial features. In the case of black people they just dye their skin nowadays and that's it (plus they may have darker/gray/albino hair color because black albinos look cool, no idea why black dudes don't dye their hair white). In the case of Americans their skin and facial features are exactly the same as non-moe/non-genki characters plus a weird obsession with the AMERICAN flag and AMERICA in general, like some American nationalist Republicans. They also tend to often be blonde for some reason, like they're Swedish or something.

>>13411
What are you talking about? The Japs and the French are fucken CHADS. And a lot of American animation is also fantastic.

Granted, I don't look at Japan with rose-colored glasses or like Japanese corporate capitalism so…

>>23269 (me)
Also, don't the chinlets uncritically worship the 50s too? They have such tendency towards fanaticism already, they are unable to engage any country or period critically if they love certain aspects of it.

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The bigger question, is why so many are little girls or have very childish appearances. And why is it that the magazines targeted towards the mature audience are so crammed with the like. There's some sus.jpg that's occurred over there. Very sus shit indeed‗

>>13034
OP being stupid aside, anime is the only medium where I wish there was more ethnic diversity because anime is the only medium where diversity doesn't feel forced by executives nowadays. I want more realistic black characters in anime written by Japanese authors, it'll be fun. Heck, how about Japs stop portraying white Americans as blue-eyed blondes? How many blue-eyed blondes do you see on the street?

>>13131
>huge melons
bigger

>>26173 (me)
So I saw this picture on stupidpol. It's true that it's typical woke idpol but it brings an interesting point. It is weird that we see this more often, why aren't there more examples like the pic in my previous post? So lame. Funny how light-skinned characters get all this fancy-shmancy hair that compliments their design but dark-skinned characters are all either albinos or skin recolors, it's weird. Like the artist has applied a filter to their skin and called it a day. Although Yoruichi has a cool design, it works. She doesn't feel like a recolor. Wonder why she looks so good (don't tell me it's her ass, it's not because I'm horny, I promise).
>>13130
>sees one character who's half-European
>sees one character who's blonde with blue eyes
>sees one German
<THEY'RE LITERALLY OBSESSED WITH THESE ARCHETYPES!!
Random bullshit go!
>>13131
>and all of them have huge melons
Or a chest as flat as a plate.

whats a caucasian is that a type of asian

>>26207
euro race scientists thought it would be funny if we call white people caucasian since at the time they figures europeans come from the caucasus, hence caucasian.

this is the same stuff that makes jews and arabs technically able to call each other anti-semetic. it's old race science bullshit lingo that's still alive for some reason

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>>26208
lol wtf, this isn't me

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Because a lot of people would look the same. Read claymore if you want an example of this being a problem, all the girls have the same hair color and general look and it can get confusing. I don't think it's really meant to be caucasian but more so just japanese people with nordic hair/eyes. They still have japanese names and shit

>>23265
this. Nost Western aination celebrates awkwardnes and snark far too much.
Anime allows characters to be funny and quirky without being compleely toxc and over-comical.


Imagine if Naruto was written by Western authors.
It would be more South Park with ninja aesthetics.

>>26222
>Nost Western aination celebrates awkwardnes and snark far too much.

We have Brian Micheal Bendis and Joss Whedon to thank for writing being stuck up its own ass.


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