No.5741
I'm betting on humiliation and/or projecting.
No.5744
>>5743The latter, obviously.
>The second one you can do with every other type of characterThis is in fact what happens.
>and happens with futa or normal girls often.Well yes, because futa and normal girls are popular.
No.5747
>>5742
To better make readers identify with the raped/humiliated, because very few'd identify with the bastard.
No.5749
Some people like to insert themselves into the humiliated character who's being fucked by the ugly bastard, maybe because they get off to the thought of doing something so dirty voluntarily or because they have rape fantasies.
In other cases, people like to see a character they like being humiliated, or turning into a dirty slut, because they find the character attractive and would like to fuck it.
Ugly bastard is a really effective way to please both audiences. Some people might even be part of both groups.
No.5764
>>5739It's purposefully dysgenic because the taboo arouses people sometime. Typically, Japanese men aren't that fat nor strong, so it may be a sort perverted ideal. Albeit, it's not internalised, rather externalised. These fat bastards are the spectator's better. More sexual, dimorphic, and masculine.
No.5776
Materialist explanation of this product?
No.5971
Are archive file attachments really allowed on the boards?
Isn't there the risk of zip bombs and similar?
No.6291
What about hot bastards?
No.6292
>>6291You mean like the tall, muscular & tanned playboys that are so common in NTR?
No.6293
Because it heightens the sexuality of the female subject in contrast.
No.6294
Dialectics
No.6295
>>6293First plausible answer but it doesn't seem that way in practice. Wouldn't lesbian porn seem less erotic than anything hetero if it were the case?
No.6296
>>6295>Wouldn't lesbian porn seem less erotic than anything hetero if it were the case?In my experience, there is not that much overlapse between the Ugly bastard NTR audience and yurifags. So maybe thoses two crowds have not the same way to highlight the sexuality of the protagonists and neither the same way to make it relate to their own sexuality.
No.6299
>>6295Why are the other answers not plausible?
No.6300
>>6295I find lesbian porn incredibly boring.
No.6301
>>5739The ugly bastard represents the US who came to rape and humiliate Japan
As is often the case the population uses pornagraphie to cope with this trauma and talk about this topic which is otherwise a taboo
As a side effect the population devvelops stange fetishes
No.6302
>>6296>>6300Case in point.
No.6322
They know their audience.
Otaku want to be the little girl.
Specifically, otaku want to be the little girl being fucked by an average schmoe.
No.6337
Under communism, will there be more nonmale bastards?
No.6396
What's different about normal cuckoldry compared to NTR?
Do the cuckolder and the female participant just have more agency in NTR?
No.6397
>>5747It's wrong to assume there's always a self-insertion aspect to pornography. If this were the case lesbian porn wouldn't be popular with guys.
And yes, it's way more of a stretch to assume every guy who's into lesbian porn is actually projecting into one of the girls than to simply acknowledge that projection and fantasizing aren't necessary aspects of sexual arousal.
No.6401
>>6396If by "normal cuckoldry" you mean like consensual cuckoldry, I think a big part of NTR is the bad feelings that come from watching the protagonist suffer emotionally, little by little. Whether you self-insert as the cuckold, or the guy stealing the significant other, or the person being stolen, or don't self-insert as anyone and just enjoy this kind of drama. Which is probably why it's considered a "dark" genre. You're either a sadist or a masochist to watch/read that shit.
No.6517
Why is anime so horny.
No.7315
bump
No.8481
>>5747>>5749but what if I identify with the ugly bastard???
No.8487
>>8481That would be the second thing I mentioned.
No.9238
Take the IKEMEN pill.anarcha-feminismAnarcha-Feminism
No.9242
>>5739Because that's what the hentai artists look like, or think their audience looks like. It's basically saying, yeah this is you but instead of having sex you're only going to beat off to drawings of yourselves doing it. Also humiliation of the grill involved.
>>8477 Kek
>>9238My fujoshi alarms are going off.
>>6397>lesbian porn wouldn't be popularYou're still self-inserting to the extent of being an actual voyuer or to the thought of joining in.
>>6300Same usually, but occasionally you'll get some good stuff
No.13906
It is possible otaku harbor fantasies of misogynistic humiliation similar to how white supremacists are interested in racist Blacked pornography.
No.13907
>>13906stop psychoanalyzing porn
No.13908
>>13906>>13907although im going to say ryona fans are sus but only them
No.13909
>>13908lolicons are pretty fucked too
No.13910
>>5739It address body equality type problem, thus we need eugenics.
No.13917
>>13906>It is possible otaku harbor fantasies of misogynistic humiliationWOOOOOOOOOOOOW NO SHIT
picrel, it's from the hentai thread
Femboyfags do the same thing btw. They associate femininity with humiliation and they get off to that.
>>9238based
>>9242>My fujoshi alarms are going off. lmao what a retard. You know yumejoshi are a thing, right? Not only that but there are men who prefer the female-drawn handsome men over male-drawn bara or trapshit, even though these men are pretty rare. Also, why do you call any straight woman who is attracted to handsome anime men "fujos"? What are they supposed to be attracted to, then? I suppose it's time to start calling men who like anime women "yurifags". Or maybe you just have that reaction every time you see a female anime fan?
That being said, fujos are cucks lol but I would still defend them over anyone who thinks "fujo" is an insult
No.13919
>>13917>replying to half-year old posts's joking by trying to prove how much of a Weeblet you are <le defend right shit >"fujo" isn't an insultIt literally means ROTTEN girl you retard, it's not a compliment. Touch grass.
>why do you call any straight woman who is attracted to handsome anime men "fujos" What the fuck are you talking about you schizo faggot.
>men who like anime women "yurifags"<le smug false equivalencyI'm not even that anon but your retarded post is the kind of shit that gives anime-fans a bad name.
No.13932
>>13919>It literally means ROTTEN girl you retardFujoshi refers specifically to girls and women who are obsessed with yaoi (also, said women and girls use the term to describe themselves as well, much like otaku call themselves otaku). Calling someone who shows attraction to fictional men "fujo", without evidence that she actually is one, implies three things: that you're insulting her, and consequently that you believe a woman liking 2D boys is bad, and that you think she's obsessed with anime boys having anal sex. If a male showed attraction to beautiful 2D women, such a reaction wouldn't exist. Weird that it only happens when women do it. And don't try to deny that male anime fans don't bully female fans, especially fujos. The term used for all those women used to be "fangirl", by the way, which obviously had negative connotations, and now it has been replaced by that other term to insult any woman who likes male fictional characters.
>What the fuck are you talking about you schizo faggot. The other anon just mentioned ikemen (handsome anime men that are drawn specifically to appeal to straight women) and they were called a fujo. I don't know whether that person is male or female, but "ikemen" is for straight women so the retard who replied to that anon automatically assumed "likes ikemen = straight woman = fujo".
<<le smug false equivalencyIt's not a "false equivalency", it's literally what males do when they call any woman who likes 2D men "fujo" but they fail to realize how fucking stupid that is.
No.13935
>>13932>it's literally what males do when they call any woman who likes 2D men "fujo" but they fail to realize how fucking stupid that is.No it isn't You're blatantly misrepresenting Ikemen to make a false point. It's not just about "pretty boys" because it specifically is a target demo for fujoshit.
>"likes ikemen = straight woman = fujo" No, that's just your projecting ass.
>Fujoshi refers specifically to girls and women who are obsessed with yaoi Yes and the literal meaning is "rotten girl"
>said women and girls use the term to describe themselves as well, much like otaku call themselves otaku A self aware idiot calling themselves an idiot, is still an idiot. Just because the accept the name, doesn't stop making it a negative connotation.
>Calling someone who shows attraction to fictional men "fujo", without evidence that she actually is one uygha you are legit retarded, GO outside, touch fucking grass you angry little faggot. The person wrote in an offhand manner "My fujo-senses are tingling" end-of-story, nothing more than that, there is no condemnation or rant about it like you have made, it's an offhand comment on a fucking imageboard.
>that you're insulting her, and consequently that you believe a woman liking 2D boys is bad, and that you think she's obsessed with anime boys having anal sex. No you're projecting and trying to make a single statement into 3 separate ones, an utterly dishonest tactic, not to mention moronic in this case.
>The term used for all those women used to be "fangirl", by the way No, it did not. Fangirl is no different to fanboy because they were FANS of something or someone, BUT Fujo is specifically in regards to homosexual relations almost always involving lithe, almost effeminate men, it is entirely sex based, and not just "people liking le 2D character".
I'm not even going into the fact that waifu-fagging and husbando-shit is bottom-of-the-barrel shit that the majority of the anime community has been fighting over for years and many people are sick of it and the fetishizations. It's not even like a hentai that you fap to and move on, it's a genuine obsession that leaks into their lives
No.13937
More and more anyone who is convinced leftist is led to believe that uncontrolled coomerism might not be so harmless after all. Past socialists not coincidentally had frowned upon bourgeois decadence, and while sometimes they went too far they weren't totally incorrect either. And there is no contradiction in a measure of sexual negativity to be had with social progress, and in fact the fight against misogyny would entail and require quite the reduction of exploitative pornography.
No.13939
they’re just silly looking, and in a cartoon-y medium that counts for a lot. hunks and mysterious goth boys get boring fast in anime
No.13943
I LOVE ugly bastard cus Im one in real life. Majority of thirty something men are stereotipical ugly bastards.
Zoom zoom can seethe and age shame all they want, but in hentai land, ugly bastard gets the girl.
No.14173
>>13935>It's not just about "pretty boys" because it specifically is a target demo for fujoshit. Are you retarded? Ikemen, AKA handsome anime men are not necessarily targeted exclusively at fujos AKA female yaoi fans. Ikemen are aimed at otaku women in general. That's the fucking point of the post, it's that simple. Or do you seriously think "ikemen" is a yaoi thing? Maybe that's why you're so confused.
No.15850
>>13935>It's not just about "pretty boys" because it specifically is a target demo for fujoshit. "Ikemen" is just a handsome guy. It's not a genre or a demographic lmao
No.15936
Bishounen should be used more often.
No.16013
>>159361. bishonen would detract from the feeling of degrading and humiliating the character being raped/molested/stolen. Men can't get off to that.
2. the bishonen would make the male audience feel extra cucked, since they'd be reminded of how ugly they are in reality. Ugly bastards are popular because they don't actually feel threatening to the target audience, so there are no real feelings of jealousy. Yes, ugly bastards are found in NTR a lot, but it's just a non-threatening fantasy to the losers who consume that genre; being told that they'll never be actually attractive in the eyes of women (even 2D women) is too much for them. See
>>139433. bishonen are designed to appeal to straight women, not males. This alienates men.
Only bisexual men, or straight men who want to self-insert as an attractive anime guy, would be able to find bishonen in hentai appealing, but they're a minority. The Teen's Love genre (basically straight hentai manga for women) is full of bishonen male leads and relatively plain female protagonists, because it's for women, as is yume doujinshi (self-insert straight porn featuring pre-existing male characters). Pics related.
No.16495
How come it's almost always females or boys and rarely the ugly male rapist that gets humiliated????
No.16502
>>5739>Why are ugly bastards so popular?Of course for:
<identifying bastards<discrimination against ugly people (lookism)<a prerequisite for body equality type via scientific socialism & eugenics socialismFor more discussion & answer, see >>>/siberia/280714
No.16503
>>16495Because it's patriarchy, fragile masculinity, rape culture, etc etc under the influence of crapitalism.
But yeah that's a good one, Hoxha
No.17841
>>17838She's a hottie for sure.
No.17845
>>5739All otaku/nerd culture is full of losers.
No.17846
>>17844yea exactly, i don't really get the whole its > so men can envision themself easier. It's pretty common to see comically large dicks and ridiculously buff guys but with the fucking ugliest faces imaginable. No way the first aren't more emasculating than the later for the straight viewers. Shame because it ruins some otherwise pretty appealing stuff to gay male viewers - just self insert as the female getting raped by gigachad.
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