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 No.2400

Thread dedicated to the discussion of anti-work theory/praxis and sharing of further reading material. Shitposting obviously allowed and expected. Share your personal experiences if you want, just don't dox yourself by accident.

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 No.2402

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 No.2406

>>2400
4th book looks fun.
What's it about?

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sneed

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Flood detected; post discarded.

 No.2412

>>2411
I don't know how to read these, pls help

 No.2413

>>2412
They are manga, you read them right-to-left.

First picture:
> These guys were able to live so well even though they were unemployed…
< Please tell me that's not why you like dinosaurs…

Second picture:
> What are you, Youko? A job-hunting student? I like the suit.
< This was the only different thing I had.
< Nope.
< I'm a corporate slave!
> You just wanted to say that, didn't you!?

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>>2413
Oh I see, thank you Junko without trip or flag

 No.2416

>>2414
thats not me

 No.2424

work tomorrow :(

 No.2425

>>2424
What makes you work instead of neet or suicide, anon?

 No.2426

>>2425
not him, but i have to pay bills, taxes and buy food
how you handle this without a job, oh wise master?

 No.2429

>>2426
>not him, but i have to pay bills, taxes and buy food
>how you handle this without a job, oh wise master?
A special blend of neetdom and crime.

 No.2430

>>2425
Cowardiance.

 No.2431

>>2430
https://www.anarchistnews.org/content/memoirs-cowardly-anarchists

its ok anon, we all have our strengths and weaknesses. Especially weaknesses. Some more than others :^)
you're valid

 No.2432

>>2425
NTA, but it brings comfort to my life. Plus I can live abroad and escape the third world.

 No.2433

People always brag about being NEETs but will never explain how

 No.2434

>>2433
The majority of NEETs live with their parents.

 No.2435

>>2434
Just with or off?

 No.2512

r/antiwork is on the reddit front page every other day, what's going on?

 No.2513

>>2512
Burgers on a de-facto workers strike because no one wants to work.

 No.2514

>>2512
"Works sucks, I know"
Standard radlib bitching about work but never imagining the possibility of doing anything to bring about it's end.
I don't go on reddit, but I have many "anti-work" lib friends and acquaintances.

 No.2517

>>2514
Everyone has to start somehow.

 No.2816

> As a result, the overwhelming majority of examples of wage labor that we do encounter in the ancient world are of people who are already slaves: a slave potter might indeed arrange with his master to work in a ceramics factory, sending half the wages to his master and keeping the rest for himself. Slaves might occasionally do free contract work as well—say, working as porters at the docks. Free men and women would not. And this remained true until fairly recently: wage labor, when it did occur in the Middle Ages, was typical of commercial port cities such as Venice, or Malacca, or Zanzibar, where it was carried out almost entirely by unfree labor.
bruh is this for real? why nobody talks about it?

 No.2817

>>2512
A mix of increased awareness of work conditions in due to COVID changes, exponential nature of hype, and recuperation.

1) Work already sucked, but COVID has become a breaking point, and people forced away from work or fired have gained fresh perspective.
2) Attention brings more discussion and more attention. When something gets enough attention to get crossposted to other subreddits or communites, then it has more change to reach /r/all on reddit, then it has more chance to trend and gain more subscribers and lurkers, which increases the chances of other posts being seen. Attention is a feedback loop in an attention economy, like capital enabling more capital, and it will probably happen until the Next Big Thing.
3) Recuperation. For evidence, look at replies to overtly left-wing meta OPs. People saying 'I don't like American work' seems to be liberalizing the anarchistic anti-work phenomenon. It's becoming 'my work sucks' more than 'work as we know it today sucks', probably because 'work' is a nuanced word to the people who named the place, and to a normalfag 'anti-work' sounds like 'sit on my butt and free money', which they find unreasonable. So recuperation has enabled it to become more popular. Now it just needs to be forced back into its original purpose. Good fucking luck for that happening.

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>>2817 (me)
>recuperation
That said, I looked there now and there was plenty of highly-rated posts explicitly denouncing capitalism and food-theft-snitching.

 No.2833

Late to the party but you guys should be interested in some anti work history

 No.2834

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/09500170211015067
Oh no friends we have been BTFOd, Marxists will scientifically make us love work

 No.2836

>>2816
read more anti-civ stuff, its pretty common there. u just wont find commies admit it….

 No.2837

>>2836
Any recommendations?

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 No.2839

>>2816
>>2836
"free" labour is different under capitalism than it was under feudalism you lobotomite

 No.2840

>>2839
Yeah it seems feudalism was a short interruption between societies built on slavery.

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 No.2842

>>2840
>feudalism wasn't built on slavery
another anarchist banger

 No.2843

>>2842
what do you mean

 No.2844

>>2843
stfu

 No.2848

>>2844
wtf I am a tankie now

 No.2851

>>2843
he means he doesnt know the difference between slaves and serfs

 No.2852

>>2851
i'm not a "he"
slaves were used alnongside serfs. there were plenty of feudal monarchies where the king or a lord had a sizeable inventory of slaves
also making any kind of meaningful differerence between slavery and serfdom in the actual lives of the subjects is pretty dumb

 No.2853

>>2852
So you really don't know the difference. You can just admit it, you know.

 No.2854

>>2853
why are anarchists in an anti-work thread no less defending serfdom?

 No.2855

>>2854
I don't think pointing out that slavery is different from serfdom is a defense of either.

 No.2856

>>2834
>anarchists BTFO by Marxists
It's a tale as old as time

 No.2858

>>2834
>>2856
how did they btfo me if i still don't want to work?
checkmate, tankies

 No.2881

>>2858
You would want to work if they were your managers vanguard. It's foretold by Marx's prophecy.

 No.2906

>>2881
mic drop

 No.3129

wait…there were serfs in France and England? I thought it was just a Russia thing

 No.3130

>>3129
There were, but it went out of fashion early.

 No.3131

Unironically Capital and Grundrisse, used to be a Black/Graeber fan until I read Marx

 No.3132

>>3131
what is this post trying to convey?

 No.3133

this was pretty good when I was 16 years old but now this is just stupod

 No.3134

>>3132
I'm saying that abolition of work is a core tenant of Marxist theory. And many people such as Postone and Kurz have written books about the necessity of ending work to end capitalism.

 No.3228

Friendly reminder that Stalin was Anti-Work

 No.3229

>>3228
Sralin robbed banks.
He was a post-left illegalist.

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 No.3696

>>3229
Have you read Novatore and Bonanno? Stalin has.

 No.3697

>>3228
>Stalin was Anti-Work
Only for himself.

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>be me
>lie on my CV
>get hired as security at a bougie ass restaurant
>12 hours graveyard shift
>only work 2-3 hours when staff is around
>pretend to check people's backpacks
>everyone leaves
>lock everything
>block entrances
>go to the camera's blindspot
>get comfy in one of the sofas
>grab a drink from the bar
>munch on fresh breadsticks
>have delicious italian dinner for free from the kitchen
>take a massive shit and clog up the toilet every night
>go to sleep
>wake up
>resell the garbage for extra cash
>take lobster and quality meat cuts from the cold room
>go home
>gaming
>workout
>go out to smash some bussy
>earn over twice as much compared to my last job

 No.3700

>>3697
what are you?
some sort of social anarchist scum?

 No.3701

>>3698
So you're an illegalist but also a security guard?

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>>3701
All the best crooks are cops. Can't get caught if you're the one supposed to be catching people.

 No.3703

>>3229
for the cause not for the sake of it

 No.3705

>>3702
So what will happen when real illegalists will break into the restaurant where you wou work to steal shit?

 No.3706

>>3705
>real illegalists
gatekeeping crime now are we?
not that anon but if I were in their situation I'd cooperate with them and split

 No.3707

>>2400
ive always had possitive experiences at work

 No.3709

>>3707
what job do you have?

 No.3710

>>3709
cyber security architect

 No.3711

>>3706
>I'd cooperate with them and split
You would be fired if you admit it to your boss and maybe he will even sue you.
If you don't show up the next day, you will be a fugitive.

 No.3712

>>3711
>You would be fired if you admit it to your boss
why would I do that?
like, you'd get punished for most illegals acts if you admitted to them
isnt that kinda a given?

>>3710
sounds like an interesting job, but not everyone gets the chance to get the job they'd like and for some people following their passion is even at odds with monetising said passion to begin with, which is why it would be beneficial to everyone if said occupations were no longer tied to work as an institution. you would still be doing cyber security stuff, it just wouldnt be tied to your subsistence anymore.

 No.3713

>>3710
So you are paid to wank all day about how cool hackerman you are?

 No.3714

>>3712
>why would I do that?
I wrote the 2 obvious options, so you choose to be a fugitive.

 No.3715

>>3710
so basically a virtual security guard for porky?

 No.3719

>>3714
Well I disagree with those

 No.3731

>>3719
So you would show you up at work the next day?
"Hey Anon, there was a burglary last night at the restaurant, someone has cut the video surveillance system, where the fuck where you? You're supposed the security guard."

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>>3731
all I can is that somebody who isn't me steals regurlarly at their job and nobody even notices


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