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Welcome to /dead/, the endless magical nihilist gulag. This is not 8/grim/, but it is the continuation 8/grim/. Think of it as partly an /r9k/ for anti-capitalists, partly /dprk/ with skeltals, and otherwise whatever you make of it.

Now in amazing Techni-nocolors!

Rules:
>1. Global rules apply
<2. Please keep /r9k/-tier & tfw no gf shitposts to one thread. Capitalism is only one of the many, many reasons why you don't have a gf.
>3. Meta posts belong in this thread
<4. This is a #SAFE space_ for anarkiddies and nihilists; cheka yr authoritarian privilege fam
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>>4409
Select theme, bottom right.

 

Didnt know this board existed. Good to have doomerism is one location where they are allowed to continue their self pity discussions.



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It is no exaggeration to say the reason we are heading towards catastrophe and possible extinction is due to losing the propaganda war.

Its not that the system is so oppressive that people cant rebel. Police violence. Threat of homelessness and hunger. Rent. Fear. People can overcome all of this and more. History has shown this. Information is where the true battle takes place.

The reason the revolution does not happen is because the masses are severely brainwashed. Most people believe Capitalism is natural and unavoidable. That humans are inherently evil. And thus a better society is impossible.
Schools and media have perfectly done their job.

Deprograming takes too much individual, conscious effort and time to pretend to reeducate the masses. I can not see the way out of this bros
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>>5583
>The years will pass, and we'll get to work producing more babies than ever before
It's so cool how literally every world leader views their populace as nothing more than cattle

 

>>5583
>Was it "too late" when the savagery of WW1 was killing people in the millions?
Yes, unironically. WW1 broke the back of international solidarity and ushered in fascism, and genocided the mobilized working classes, causing leftism to be unprepared to capitalize on the great crisis in capitalism (the depression). we would be travelling to alpha centauri today if WW1 didn't happen with leftist collaboration. all we got was some shitty rump states that later collapsed.

 

>>5598
WW1 revealed to all that none of these people making promises were what they purported to be, and the people were left with no one. That was the purpose of all of this - to destroy any concept of democracy, what little existed, because they hated the people and wanted to subsume them in some cockamamie system or another. It was inmposed by force, by insinuation, and by the vices of the human race, which really were the human spirit. The aspiration for it to be different was always a faint one, made possible because people would for the first time really have any way to speak of the rest of the world. For most of history, people don't move that far from where they are born, and don't have much to do with anyone outside of that world. States are weak and have little interest in the working class, and this was assumed when they were shoved into cities and made to starve by this callosu and Satanic order.

 

What was carried out privately and at a local arena became the civic cult of modernity, which was made completely alien by insinuation to serve aristocracy - to restore serfdom and the filthiest impulses of Germanic culture and the vices of the human race generally.

Germany wasn't defeated enough, basically. But, it will be defeated utterly, its way of life eliminated and kept in a museum of degenerate art where it belongs. That would then start the process of allowing this society to heal, if its excesses can be described as what they were, and no more excuses regarding this are tolerated. When you go down that rabbit hole, history makes a lot more sense. These stupid people have this completely undeserved reputation and insist that this time their plans will totally work and can't lose. It's the same song and dance since the cope of 1914.

That won't solve our problems, of course. I doubt humans have it in them to want this situation to be different in the public. Too many of them allowed this to go on in ways that were wholly unnecessary and not prompted by anyone, except an impulse of aristocracy that humasn learned by the example - the only example we are allowed to see of what humans can be.

 

Anywhere there is a hint of sentiment other than the thrill of torture, it is mocked, made unseemly, and declared heretical against the spirit of the human race. The human spirit is a monstrosity and history has judged.



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Last weekend I got totally socially destroyed by people in my orgs with a whole load of lies, emotional appeals, etc. They had secret meetings to talk to a lot of key people to convince them of these lies in advance. They then sprung all of this on a national meeting, throwing me under the bus among borderline rape allegations against friends of mine who arent even members and they never interacted with to any capacity, all in an effort to put their candidate in a light on a platform of "fighting sexism" and take down the opposing candidate in the process.
The party I spend 3+ years of my life in a near full time manner building up, of which i build up the entire chapter from zero to dozens of members, including the people who fucked me over, all of it is taken away from me.
The people in the org were easily swayed by a very obvious plot. Nobody opposed a showtrial without any evidence in which people were attacked by name, despite them not having mentioned any of these issues before to the confidants or the board. People, including those who said they would have my back, didnt dare to intervene.
A moscow trial was conducted in an org of only a little over a hundred people.

If communists are unable to defend and see such snakes and opportunists even at this level, and are so easily swayed, and if even this small a scale is enough to invite full on throwing comrades under the bus for your own gain, then all is lost. The opportunist powerplays that happened in the soviet union are inevitable. Democracy and workers power is an impossibility. The left can never win because it is unable to even have a functioning democracy beyond 150 people without falling to unopposed opportunism.

I am done with politics, i'm going back to my life with people I actually can trust, and im just gonna grill. The Marxist ideal is an illusion, even the smallest level politics gets easily corrupted by opportunists.
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Want to give a little background on your party? What were you doing what were you tryinh to accomplish?

 

>>5510
non party structures oriented towards a specific goal where success and failure can be objectively judged. generally i would say such structures should be of the dual-power, class consciousness building type (unions of various sorts, for example), but frankly even charity is preferable to the party form. (so long as one doesn't wind up NGOpilled. i suggest charity purely because direct-action charity ought to serve as an education in logistics.)

a lemonade stand which sells no lemonade goes bankrupt. a trade union which utterly fails in every struggle or sells out its membership at every turn loses members to more useful unions. a tenants union that leads its members up the garden path invariably disbands. a soup kitchen that never has any food isn't going to bring anybody in. but a party which does not take power, does not contribute anything of value to struggles, does not effectively educate members, does not do anything to improve (and often does much to weaken) how positively the public sees the left, which does not, in short, achieve anything except its own existence, inevitable infighting with other orgs, and almost inevitably some manner of cult like behavior and/or sex scandal goes goes: "ah, but look at our program! we have the right line!"
it's a farcical situation, and the primary reason parties are not to be trusted: they can always ask to be judged by their "successes" (usually a collection of press releases, mere empty rhetoric from the irrelevant) and not by their failures (every other aspect of their existence), and because they do not do anything there are no practical risks to fucking everything up: mount a coup in the soup kitchen and piss off the guy who brings the soup in? great, idiot, you've destroyed the organization. mount a coup in the party which alienates 75% of the party membership, including the guy who handles the oh-so-precious newspaper and who handles the wordpress? "well, as comrade stalin said: better fewer, but better", the iron law of institutions holds: you're ruling in hell rather than serving in heaven. you get to determine that all important line.

 

>get fucked over by marxoid deception and lies (typical)
>wtf how could this happen, workers control is over!!!
yeah you deserved it kek
>The Marxist ideal is an illusion
no shit, centroidism isn't the only alternative tho. God damn is the average socialist really this brainwashed by the Marxist hegemony that they cannot fathom an alternative to Marxoidism or the Leninoid party system and its inevitable degeneration?

 

>>5600
Try the /cybercom/ thread. They have a side interest in rule by sortition.

 

>>5601
plz dont invite worthless drooling morons into good threads, thank you very much



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Nihilism will have to manifest itself as a psychological condition, first when we have sought in all that has happened a purpose which is not there: so that the seeker will ultimately lose courage. Nihilism is therefore the coming into consciousness of the long waste of strength, the pain of "futility," uncertainty, the lack of an opportunity to recover in some way, or to attain to a state of peace concerning anything—shame in one's own presence, as if one had cheated oneself too long…. The purpose above-mentioned might have been achieved: in the form of a "realisation" of a most high canon of morality in all worldly phenomena, the moral order of the universe; or in the form of the increase of love and harmony in the traffic of humanity; or in the nearer approach to a general condition of happiness; or even in the march towards general nonentity—any sort of goal always constitutes a purpose. The common factor to all these appearances is that something will be attained, through the process itself: and now we perceive that Becoming has been aiming at nothing, and has achieved nothing. Hence the disillusionment in regard to a so-called purpose in existence, as a cause of Nihilism; whether this [Pg 13]be in respect of a very definite purpose, or generalised into the recognition that all the hypotheses are false which have hitherto been offered as to the object of life, and which relate to the whole of "Evolution" (man no longer an assistant in, let alone the culmination of, the evolutionary process).

Nihilism will manifest itself as a psychological condition, in the second place, when man has fixed a totality, a systematisation, even an organisation in and behind all phenomena, so that the soul thirsting for respect and admiration will wallow in the general idea of a highest ruling and administrative power (if it be the soul of a logician, the sequence of consequences and perfect reasoning will suffice to conciliate everything). A kind of unity, some form of "monism":' and as a result of this belief man becomes obsessed by a feeling of profound relativity and dependence in the presence of an All which is infinitely superior to him, a sort of divinity. "The general good exacts the surrender of the individual …" but lo, there is no such general good! At bottom, man loses the belief in his own worth when no infinitely precious entity manifests itself through him—that is to say, he conceived such an All, in order to be able to believe in hisPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 

Black rock shooter!

 

I know nothing about this guy, but this video is very based and /dead/pilled:

https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=ycfPF1gkNpE&listen=1

 

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Energy to achieve… what?



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I think Alex Dugin is based. Not because of his tradorth-eurasianism mumbo jumbo. This is just his storefront truth to appeal to normies. Deep in his heart he is a nihilist and he knows there is no universal truth. He knows, that you can freely choose your truth how you wish. I absolutely love this interview and I've listened to it multiple times. Our existence is just larping.
https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=GGunRKWtWBs&listen=1

 

>>5515
The best american that ever existed. Hunanity was not read for him, and the american people betrayed their savior, Alex Dugin. They shall be punished in the last day of all days for their sin.



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Is the communist dream dead? Young people are turning more and more reactionary and even the "leftist" ones would rather want a liberal capitalist welfare state than actual communism. Back then there was the east to look at for communism. To build hope. Now 95% of the world is capitalist with no signs of stopping until the world is destroyed. Technology has gotten better to control the oppostion and dictate the narrative. Something as shameless as a genocide is everywhere on the news and the people mostly shrug their shoulders.
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>>5461
>The mods keep moving shitass threads here
Wtf, mods? You have some resentment towards this board or something?

 

>Is the communist dream dead?
has it ever existed even?

 

>>5463
uuga booga

 

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>>5460
>is the communist dream /dead/???
>wtf why did i get moved to /dead/? was it it something i said?

 

>>5463
Arguably no, outside of intellectual circles and a minority of proles and peasants. If you read through history you realize how impoverished or idealistic most peoples' conceptions of 'communism' are. And that continues up to today. It's telling that things like labor-time accounting or the Chinese rural workpoint system are these obscure bits of communist 'lore' that you have to read academic histories to understand, but the least revolutionary aspects of 'AES' (i.e. rapid industrialization) are the bits that are endlessly propagandized to people.



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>>5438
whta mod?

 

>>5438
He looks so old. The real Stirner died at 50 of a bug bite

 

>>5439
no clue, i copy pasted from here
>>>/games/35828

 

>>5427
That was me, kind of. I was a hardcore libertarian in my teens, largely but not entirely influenced by Ayn Rand. I was interested in Stirner because I knew he was an egoist like Rand, and on reading him, I came to realize that I was looking at things from the wrong direction.



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Genuine question from a none communist/anarchist.
first, I sympathaise with those two ideas, I really do. I have a burning passionate hatred for all the negative aspects of humanity, from greed to sadism.
I'm not very well read on anarchism or communism (the likes of marx and even hegel never interested me), so I'm mostly going by personal observation. from what I understand communists believe that money (capitalism) corrupts the human being and that by removing the cultural meme of capitalism, communism would florish. at least in simple terms, correct?

whenever I engage in chatter about this topic, eventually it comes down to human nature. almost all far leftists believe some form of the blank-slate. I don't. I never understood why this idea is taken seriously at all. isn't it obvious that a lot of human bias is hardwired into us from birth rather than influnced by enviornent?
especially the more basal desires and behaviours like greed? do you really believe that money is what corrupts people rather than that they're born greedy? and if you're a communist/anarchist that doesn't blieve in the blankslate, how do justify what you believe?
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>>5166
I doubt OP is still reading this.

 

>>5156
>they're also born generous and altruistic
This is no better than saying people are born greedy. At least the Marxists admit that our behavior is shaped by the social environment we are in, even though they often cling to morality just as much as the next guy.

 

>>5168
The point is that 'human nature' includes the possibility for a wide spectrum of contradictory traits.

 

>>5169
"Human nature" is a term made up by philosophers who do not actually know how real human beings work. These talks about the human nature are pointless. The max Aristotle was able to discern was "Humans are capable of reason." Which is, like, almost nothing. And that still does not include people with intellectual disabilities, even though it is true otherwise.

Altruism, like greed, is nurtured through society, there is nothing "innate" about greed or altruism other than some basic psychological mechanisms that give rise to hoarding or generosity, which by themselves are not greed and altruism. Say, you're hungry. And you are given lots of food. You overeat a little. Then you get used to the constant flow of dopamine you get from eating food. And that's how you become glottonous. Glottony is the result of lots of internal and external factors, and saying that glottony is innate is confusing cause and effect and does not take into the account the environment a person is raised in.

 

>not well read
apparent
>money(capitalism)
no, capitalism is not when moeny. Read Capital. Money and Capital both predate Capitalism.



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So you think you are a worthless NEET? Let's see what uncle Ted has to say:
>The people whose behavior is fairly well under the control of the system are those of the type that might be called “bourgeois.” But there are growing numbers of people who in one way or another are rebels against the system: welfare leeches, youth gangs, cultists, satanists, Nazis, radical environmentalists, militia-men, etc.

NEETs are rebelling against the system! We are part of the rebellion! Ted is based!!!
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/fc-industrial-society-and-its-future
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The advertisement/marketing industry. Why do marxists love it? Because it implants artificial needs into the brains of the people, it is necessary to cultivate the consoomer cattle. Braindead consoomers are necessary to facilitate endless economic growth and therefore technological progress. As technology is progressing, human autonomy is dissipating. The thing is, marxists believe this is good. You vill live in zhe pod and you vill like it. Fully automated luxury communism. Or as Kaczynski said: "These engineered human beings may be happy in such a society, but they most certainly will not be free. They will have been reduced to the status of domestic animals."

 

Ted on Marx:

>Many writers, beginning with Karl Marx, have noted the fundamental importance of technology in determining the course of society’s development. In effect, they have recognized that it is technology that rules society, not the other way around.


https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-forward-to-technological-slavery

 

>>5422
That is right, just like bureaucracy
"The bureaucracy is a circle from which no one can escape. Its hierarchy is a hierarchy of knowledge."
And
"Technology discloses man's mode of dealing with Nature, the process of production by which he sustains his life, and thereby also lays bare the mode of formation of his social relations, and of the mental conceptions that flow from them."

 

Ok, here is my take on Ted K. :
His ideology and his actions are just his personal way to cope with existence. You read it in his manifesto, he dedicated an entire section to "surrogate activities". In his view, these activities are fake and therefore bad. But since there is no truth and no meaning in existence anyway, there can't be fake activities. ANY KIND of activity is a surrogate activity. So no matter what you do, it doesn't matter in the end. You will die and the universe will also die someday. He did the same thing we all do: He created his ideology purely out of psychological needs in order to cope with existence! Nihilism says: There is no goal. Many people don't want to accept this and so they just create their own goals/meaning. For some people it is "god", for others "socialism", "community" etc. and for Ted K, he created his primitivist ideology. Or in other words:
Pomni: So, our entire existence here is just…LARPing?
Nietzsche (chad face): Yes.

 

based on what?



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ITT: post PRAXIS
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What direct action can be done from the comfort of my home? I can't go out because of the virus.

 

>>940
learn programming and create viruses that attack the digital communication of capitalist corporations and bourgeoi states

 


 

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hehe ha

 

>>735
Big pp.



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