>>3115not anon but
>how about you kill yourself and remove your ability to express your opinion?fuckin cult of the undead
I don't care as much about OPs personal (and very real) pain, as much as I do the system that is causing it for them and many more people
Cope and seethe if you want but moralizing like this does not produce the opportunity to actualize it's own values
Why would your pain matter anyways if nothing matters? What is the point in killing yourself if you have not yet first tried everything to remedy the pain/lacl of fulfillment/reason for wanting to kill yourself?
When I talk to suicidal people here in this very political context now, well I don't think suicide is rational now either, but my interest is rather in this larger political objective at the centre of my values and ego attachments that propel my actions. You can choose to be sad and experience your very genuine and sorrowful and deserving of sympathy sadness. You can choose to be above it all politically, as "post left" types tend to do. I don't care. Your internal life is not my concern. However where possible I will reason with you or recruit you or even influence your behaviour in the interests of my political objectives. You think you are a detached individual but you are not. We are all ripples forming on the surface of a pond, and when our waves collide with one another a new movement us formed, eventually it is impossible to seperate these vibrations into singular sources.
I notice a lot with these individualistic nihilist sort of moralizers around these parts and elsewhere that you hedge your whole personality about being against "irrational optimism of goodness of life" or whatever but you fail to see you are moralizers yourselves, of the "nihilist" variety. I notice that you lose your shit completely the second someone is willing to use underhanded tactics to meet "good"/prosocial/altruistic ends. As a bit of a tangent, this is not an original idea, and it is in my understanding encouraged by the ruling class, bourgeoisie, but previously feudal elements as well, hope for the future is closed off, innate sense of justice is mocked, atrocities and stress is bellowed from every newsprint and talking head. In order to encourage defeatism and humility among the lesser classes. But I digress. I do not confuse moralism for political praxis. I am ruthless but flexible and will use any strategy to meet political goals. That includes this little sperg rant or whatever, but a little self deprecation, reasoning with people along shared understanding and interests, "puppy training back into sanity" direct resource or social incentives etc. Don't care, it'll be done. What does it cost me? Nothing. I used to be a whiney nihilistic pro-suicide little bitch like you but then two things happened
1.my life got actually
less' unbearably fucked up, due to me improving my life before I could kill myself or get arrested, and I used many different tactics to boost my dopamine and seretonin, lower cortisol, improve cognitive and general health, change life habits for the better, avoid unhealthy relationships and behaviours, develop strategies to meet basic needs and increase wealth, develop greater meta/executive functions and learn self auditing/mindfulness and cbt/dbt type shit
2.I realized that me wanting to kill myself was a cope. We are ejected hurtling and screaming into this world without any explanation given or guide or guarantees, we have a limited understanding of the world, and we have very limited time. Then we die. And then presumably that's it, nothing.
So may as well make the most of life while it's around, and not waste any time ruminating or gloating about shit being pointless when it just saps us of energy and enjoyment and possibility and agency of our own lives. None of it matters so why worry about it
at all?
>bbhut I don't care about any of that stuff or revolution or any other peopleOk. I don't care. Not gonna stop me from manipulating and using you to reach prosocial ends.