anyone else want to create alternative spaces outside of the established left but too lazy so they harm themselves with what's already there?
i really need my own initiative
>>3136i mean like websites and stuff
and there are no actual orgs working with the proletariat where i live anyways
>>3135>If you refuse to work with woder political/proletarian organisations and go make a small larp group for meme ideology stuff you will accomplish nothingOh yeah because proletarian organisations have accomplished so much. For example: never overcoming capitalism and instead creating authoritarian states that either imploded or opened themselves to markets and exploitation again.
Now that's really a history to emulate.
Fucking who on this post-leftist board is actually post-leftist? Proletarian organisation, workerism as a whole is a dead end and has proven itself to be several times before. Why should anyone who wants to combat capitalism look to proven failures? This is completly retarded.
>>3141overboard babyyyy
also I like the skeletons and the dum filter kind of
>>3168how about you make your shitty threat on
>>>/leftypol/ instead then?
>>3173like what is this shit? "le alternative leftist space"?
leftist spaces in the 21st century are trash and will never amount to anything because leftism ia a thing of the 20th century.
you just want some hobby room where you can jerk yourself off by how hard you are larping as radical or revolutionary or whatever. you would probably fit in great on leftypol if they didnt rape your ass on theory which is the straight vibe I get from
>>3164. Organising on the grounds such abtsract, empty terms like leftism is a useless endeavour and
>>3167 is completly right in asking you why your arent trying to create spaces that are dircetd at fulfilling your concrete desires, but you get shook by a fucking stirner meme image macro which makes it even more baffling that you are even posting on here.
die in a fire.
>>3135i would like to see more experimentation online. i suspect there is a missing niche for imageboards and forums. the idea that they can compete with major social media sites is insane - but this is unnecessary. if you can break off 50 people and maintain a steady inflow of new people, you've got a self-sustaining community.
i suspect imageboards have an advantage here, despite their less familiar format to most people, because their layout - even if everyone uses a name - puts less emphasis on individual users. thus, it becomes less obvious that everyone you knew 5 years ago has left the website. people relate to the website itself almost as an imagined person.
every hour spent posting on /leftypol/ is an hour not spent on twitter, an hour creating something - if not new - then at least less common. now, if only a thousand sites of equal size would spring up.
(how political this is is a debatable point. ideally, left politics would head for /leftypol/, and what i'm really hoping for is sewing boards, boards for moderately popular old games, boards for fishing, boards for doing a fuckton of cough medicine and climbing up on the roof. if they can sustain 10 PPH they'll crush most existing imageboards. so long as they aren't "4chan-derived" in culture, i can take or leave being explicitly leftist. it would be nice, yes, but 'apolitical' is enough.)
>>3180social media sites shouldn't be competed with since they're just corporate platforms for controlling discourse and advertising
i think the big problem is moderation. too many people see their time and energy as valuable to a hysterical degree, so they assume it's like some hard thing to just clean up a discussion board regularly and interact with the userbase for constructive feedback
>>3183i just feel like im talking to myself against all of the bad faith. that's the point though, isn't it? demoralization
i have never discussed anything with a good faith poster on here. everyone seems to be some form of petty bourgeois reactionary or other. there are no good lurkers, fuck the lurkers
>>3181Im not even from murrica
fuck off btw
>>3179I know I’m still here because there’s basically nowhere else and every other leftist space is a psychotic idpol shithole or thinly veiled rightoid shit like stupidpol
It’s actually pretty depressing tbh because I can no longer lie to myself that leftypol has any real value (not even in terms of interesting discussions, entertainment, or humor), but there’s basically nowhere else to go
I tried a dis.cord server and they tried convincing me I’m an “egg” because I was upset over something my girlfriend said
>>3274i cut all of my "friends"
got any more paternalistic advice or any other projection of your petty bourgeois worldview?
>>3282is this what a union of egoists looks like
a bunch of sensitive bullies
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