No.4335
feel that the extent of the glorification and martyrdom of Ted Kaczynski by left-anarchists, despite his glaring flaws and outright hostilites to the left as a whole, is primarily due to the deep yearning for action that has been absent since the 20th century. In truth, there is almost no Anarchist militant for the past 160 years that is less deserving of the current utter praise afforded to Kaczynski, who uses most of his now iconic manifesto to ruthlessly deride a twisted liberalized strawman of leftism, barely crawling out of his absurdly reactionary tirade to off-handedly proclaim himself an Anarchist in just 2 paragraphs.
With all the flaws of Kaczynski, I cannot bring myself to cast his figure out of left-anarchist martyrdom and distance him from the left-anarchist movement as a whole, nor can many others. Put simply, there is no alternative, there is no example of revolutionary violence or direct action by someone not long dead or utterly obscure, someone to look toward in awe in that most popular, most potent, most irresistible form of propaganda. In truth I, despite the dissonance of the statement when put against my devout leftism, respect Kaczynski, not for the minutiae of his political program but for the simple fact that he was an Anarchist, and he was violent.
The left is weak, but craves to be strong, and through the cooling ashes of Marxism a fire is growing which will ignite docility to action.
No.4336
>>4335I don't see how Kaczynski was reactionary in a meaningful sense. I get he was literally reacting to industrialism, but I feel that reactionarism loses its definition when removed from the foundations of capital, which he opposes necessarily. Reactionarism loses all meaning without the bourgeoise.
I also can't blame him for disliking leftism; he clearly only ever interacted with the shrillest, most americabrained, probably trotsky-inspired leftists imaginable.
Also, he was a materialist, and a very thorough one at that. Honestly someone should compare his material analysis to Marx's. They use very different terms and Ted is obviously biased against him, but there is dialogue to be had.
No.4337
>>4336Yeah reactionary might be the wrong term to use, I just wanted to convey that Kaczynski spends almost all of his writings on a tirade against what he doesn't like instead of any dialogue on what his ideal society after revolution is.
I'll never entirely blame kaczynski, clearly a smart man, for disliking leftism, because as a leftist I dislike modern leftism as well. Like I said, the left is weak now.
No.4339
>>4335Who glorifies him lol? I feel like I've never seen it outside of leftypol or pol. I think how glorified you are as a schizo spree killer is directly proportional to how long your manifesto is.
>He authored Industrial Society and Its Future, a 35,000-word manifesto and social critique opposing industrialization, rejecting leftism, and advocating a nature-centered form of anarchism
>Elliot Rodger authored My Twisted World: The Story of Elliot Rodger a 105,000-word manifesto and social critique opposing women, rejecting inceldom, and advocating giving Elliot Rodger pussy.Move over Ted, there's a new no-pussy getting, schizo spree killer nerd in town.
No.4340
>>4339Elliot Rodgers was an anarchist
No.4341
>>4339>Who glorifies him lol?Who doesn't? I can't recall an anarchist i've ever met that hasn't liked Kaczynski
No.4342
>>4341I don't meet anarchists, thank god.
No.4343
> deep yearning for action that has been absent since the 20th century.Kaczynski sending hate mail to largely random people counts as "action" but all the actual sabotage done by groups like the ELF and ALF is forgotten… I guess the appeal is that you can get into the news without leaving your room or talking to anyone, or maybe the posties like him because postie is slang for postal workers. But yeah, there's tons of action if you are willing to look behind the models the spectacular order presents to you.
>>4339His popularization among anarchists is usually blamed on CrimeThinc.:
https://crimethinc.com/1997/09/11/the-unabomber No.4344
>>4343>all the actual sabotage done by groups like the ELF and ALF is forgottenThe actions of ELF/ALF, despite being unequivocally based, are entirely non-violent when compared to Kaczynski's 26 casualties.
How Anarchist are these groups btw? Is it just kind of assumed?
No.4345
>>4343>>4344I get recommended tiktoks about anti-industrialism, plenty zoomers who like Ted also like the ELF. I haven't seen the same for the ALF, but that may be because veganism is cringe
No.4346
>>4342I met a group of extremly camping europeans camping during the summer. Ofc I wanted to talk politics with one guy but luckily I realized it wasn't the time. Walking back to the tents after a drinking he took me aside
>zer is someone you should look into named Kaczynski