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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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Are they the most revolutionary class, or are they reactionary? I think they are the most revolutionary because they are the most oppressed. In fact, I don't see how you can make a revolution without the lumpen.

Especially in America, where the regular proletariat (labor aristocracy) has been fully bourgeoisified and proudly supports the imperialist bourgeoisie in everything they do.

Fuck jannies btw

 

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It depend.

 

They are human reserves by design. Give all of them work and income and rest of the problems will sort themselves out. Lumpen revolutionary potential could be relevant as technology and automation progresses.

 

can be the greatest allies and hired muscle for reaction, the lumpenprole guys I hang with are p receptive to commie economics

https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/periodicals/red-papers/red-papers-2/franklin.htm

 

>>13028
4chan is an odd kind of lumpenbourg, 20-30 year old permavirgin white IT workers, with a limited mix of lumpenprole, substance users, NEETs, people on disability, the mad, autists, queers and PoC. Largely, 4chan is dominated by false consciousness and very reactionary. I want to help out channers but I'm not sure how.

 

>>13028
>The lumpenproletariat is passive decaying matter of the lowest layers of the old society, is here and there thrust into the [progressive] movement by a proletarian revolution; [however,] in accordance with its whole way of life, it is more likely to sell out to reactionary intrigues.

 

>>13028
Karl Marx was lumpen so pretty reactionary typically.

 

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I've met lumpens with class consciousness but most of them in my country are incredibly reactionary and cutthroat, people that would set an orphanage on fire in exchange for nike shoes and a big TV. They also tend to be extremely anti-intellectual and violent so trying to educate them feels like playing monopoly with a coked up chimp.

 

>>13029
who is this faggot

 

>>22375
>They also tend to be extremely anti-intellectual and violent so trying to educate them feels like playing monopoly with a coked up chimp.
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