Cromwell - A revolutionary pROGRESSIVE ML-Cromwellist Thought 07-05-23 11:34:42 No. 13614
Oliver Cromwell was the greatest British Revolutionary.
Oliver Cromwell is akin to Robspierre, a revolutionary far ahead of his time, which helped develope a revolutionary tradition within britain and inspire europe itself to light itself aflame in the fires of revolt. His reforms introduced democracy not only to the state but to all of society itself. His New Model army was itself based of a democratic foundation which pushed for discussion and debate within its ranks in order to make the army iteslf a ideological extension of Parlimentary Political thought, something which was also seen within the Red Army.
Since then, a pile of dirt was thrown across Cromwells grave and he was deemed a imperialist, a genocider, and other such statements which were fabricated by the Royalist restorationists with no basis for such claims other than trying to de-legitimize a authentic Revolutionary which was Cromwell. While not as radical as the Levellers or Diggers, Cromwell still stands as a progressive and revolutionary hero in British history, and rehabilitating his image amongst Marxists and Britons as a whole would lay the foundations for a revolutionary revival in Britain.
In short' I'd like to end with a quote from Trotsky: "British workers can learn incomparably more from Cromwell than from MacDonald, Snowden, Webb and other such compromising brethren. Cromwell was a great revolutionary of his time, who knew how to uphold the interests of the new, bourgeois social system against the old aristocratic one without holding back at anything. This must be learnt from him, and the dead lion of the seventeenth century"
https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/britain/ch06.htm https://www.marxists.org/archive/hill-christopher/english-revolution/ Anonymous 07-05-23 13:43:02 No. 13618
>>13616 You are indeed correct the actual quote is
>I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken Tankyoo foar teh correction comrade
Anonymous 07-05-23 19:28:50 No. 13624
>>13620 DUMBLEDORE is heckin CROMWELL
and
OBI WAN KENOBI is heckin KING CHARLES?!?!?!
Anonymous 07-05-23 20:16:41 No. 13632
>>13630 idk
the source for the claim seems to be
Oliver Cromwell : A History (1895) by Samuel Harden Church, p. 321 ML-Cromwellist Thought 07-05-23 21:16:48 No. 13638
>>13634 While the diggers were far more revolutionary and progressive than Cromwell, that doesn't disregard cromwells achivemnets in democratic organization (such as that witnessed in the new model army) and empowerment of the parliment and the borgouise (which during this era were a progressive force). As for the comment comparing him to a Monarch, simplifies the complexity of the situation quite a lot, the "Humble Petition and Advice" constitution codified the role of role protector as one which is passed down by nomination and not as a hereditary title. Cromwell came to describe himself as a "caretaker" rather than a absolutist ruler and his government functioned based on the delegation and distribution of power, while beurocratic was far more progressive than anything at the time.
Despite his many flaws in comparison to modern movements, you cannot deny his stremendous leaps in revolutionary organisation and inspiring europe as a whole to go down the road of revolution.
Anonymous 09-05-23 06:29:15 No. 13650
Read monarchist propaganda.but there should happen to be new flames, new wars, let all faithful Subjects be dismembered rather than one Member of his Sacred Person should be wounded, and let every loyal Hand in the three Nations be cut off, rather then the traitorous hand should touch his Royal Head . For if we should be deprived again of the King in his Beauty, the Beauty of the Land is gone , and misery of the Land will renew, we shall have old plundering, and rifling, and sequestering, and imprisoning, and braining, and gibbetting again; if the King suffer, let us not think to escape scot-free; if the King die, let us not think to live long after him, no, let us resolve of a general Massacre, and a Funeral of the whole Nation .
Anonymous 09-05-23 06:39:22 No. 13651
The real shot of Britain getting rid of the monarchy was this guy tbh: Sir Arthur Haselrig. Opposed Monarchy, opposed Cromwell's Commonwealth, opposed Lambert's junta, seized power and restored the Rump Parliament before being betrayed by Moncke. He wasn't as radical as the Diggers or Levellers, but he had a real shot at solidifying the gains of the Civil War and prevent a Restoration, if he had not trusted Moncke.>Our bodies as yet are in thy hand, our Spirit waits in quiet and peace, upon our Father for Deliverance; and if he give our Bloud into thy hand, for thee to spill, know this, That he is our Almighty Captain: And if some of you will not dare to shed your bloud, to maintain Tyranny and Oppression upon the Creation, know this, That our Bloud and Life shall not be unwilling to be delivered up in meekness to maintain universal Liberty, that so the Curse on our part may be taken off the Creation.
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