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"History doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes."

ITT We talk about all the weird historical parallels between events, movements, regimes, etc.

I'll start off.

>Charlotte Corday, "first as tragedy …"

<Sympathized with the Girondins, a moderate faction of the French revolution
<was taken aback when by the September massacres of 1792
<held Jean-Paul Marat responsible
<thought him too extreme, and a traitor of the revolution
<told him he had a list of enemies
<showed up at his house
<stabbed him in his bath tub
<she went on trial
<confessed, claimed to be acting alone, was executed

>Fanny Kaplan, "… then as farce"

<member of Socialist Revolutionaries, a moderate faction of the Russian revolution
<was taken aback when the Bolsheviks banned her party
<held Vladimir Lenin responsible
<thought him too extreme, and a traitor of the revolution
<called out to Lenin after a speech he gave at an arms factory in Moscow
<when Lenin turned towards her, she fired three shots at him
<he survived
<she went on trial
<confessed, claimed to be acting alone, was executed

 

damn white hoes really b crazy

 

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>>16331
she was UKRAINIAN, and JEWISH, not white. get it straight you simple minded bolshevik

 

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>>16331
ayy tone, didja know the commanda in chief of Ashurbanipal's ahmies was fockin degapited in his sleep by a fockin BROAD?!?!

 

>>16333
Porca Madonna

 

potentially good thread but nobody knows enough to contribute lol

 

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more parallels between French and Russian revolutions.

Lenin was a lawyer.
Robespierre was a lawyer.
Both revolutions started off as liberal/bourgeois revolutions, but became more extreme as time went on.
Both revolutions went through multiple phases with different leadership.
Both revolutions started off by simply curtailing the monarchy's traditional privileges, went on to detain the monarchy, and finally ended up executing the monarchy.
Both revolutions had womens' marches snowball into something bigger.
Both revolutions saw many of its former leaders executed/jailed/exiled. (compare Kerensky/Lafayette)
Both revolutions ended up being betrayed in the long run.
Both revolutions scared the shit out of Europe and led to reactionary counter-revolutionary coalitions invading.
Both revolutions scared away aristocrats, creating reactionary exile communities in neighboring nations.

 

>>16336
is tyhat what dialacets arrte??/???

 

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>>16337
maybe…

 

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Jefferson Davis, the president of the CSA during the American civil war, and Abraham Lincoln, the president of the USA during the American civil war, both very similar facial features. High cheek bones, big noses, and weird ass beards without moustaches.

 

>>16339
That “beard” Jefferson Davis has looks like shit. People need to be told when their facial hair isn’t working.

 

>>16340
for some reason 19th century motherfuckers liked ugly ass facial hair. they also wanted to have it both ways. They wanted a clean shaven face while also having facial hair, so they grew these ugly ass bears on their necks while leaving their faces bald. Bizarre in hindsight. But that was the style at the time.

 

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>>16336
>Both revolutions scared the shit out of Europe and led to reactionary counter-revolutionary coalitions invading.
in the case of France it happened seven times

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Bombacci

>Nicola Bombacci (24 October 1879 – 28 April 1945) was an Italian Marxist revolutionary and later a fascist politician. He began in the Italian Socialist Party as an opponent of the reformist wing and became a founding member of the Communist Party of Italy in 1921, sitting on the fifteen-man Central Committee. During the latter part of his life, particularly during the Second World War, Bombacci allied with Benito ᴉuᴉlossnW and the Italian Social Republic against the Allied invasion of Italy.


Nicola sounds and looks very familiar.

 

>>16343
I don't know, can't put my finger on it. Nicola wasn't a Mongoloid as far as I know. But hmm oh wait I got it! its the resident /leftypol/ hater and ISG's favorite jester Haz.

 

Edward Hammond Clarke - Tragedy
Jordan Peterson - Farce, or take any other of the rightoid grifters, they are the same person, fundamentally

 

How is that a farce? She shot a fucker who banned her political party. More than you'll ever do.

 

i find it much more interesting to talk about the differences. where was the lenin of france in the 1930's? why was luxemburg so instrumental to the german communists?

 

>>16342
>invade for the fifth time
sjgsjflsd FUCKIN FRANCE

JUST DIE AAAAHH

 

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>most infamous country for protests: France
<biggest student protest in North America: Quebec

 

>>16339
cause they were both born in the same state within the same areas and came from the same genetic scotch irish stock, and had very similar social backgrounds

 

>>16346
She did it to one of the holy prophets

 

>>16350
SECRET BROTHERS

SECRET BROTHERS

 

>>16346
>first assassination successful
>second assassination a failure

"how is that a farce?"

 


 

>>16356
>brutal
>dictatorship
nothing wrong with that
>Russian Revolution
Pretty obvious it would fail if you call it "Russian" revolution

 

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First as tragedy, now as farce

 

>>16356
>Began with the overthrow of the Tsarist autocracy in 1917 and the establishment of a socialist government led by the Bolshevik Party
mf doesn't understand difference between february and october revolutions.

 

>>16360
No. Two different revolutions, made by different groups of people. Can't possibly be called a single "revolution". It just shows how uneducated you are.

 

>>16362
>While the February and October Revolutions were distinct events with different causes and outcomes, they both played a crucial role in the Russian Revolution of 1917
How to tell you are retarded without telling you are retarded.
>It is therefore reasonable to consider them as part of the same historical process, even if they were carried out by different groups of people with different goals and methods.
Everything is part of the same historical process, just being carried out by different groups of people with different goals and methods.
>The Bolsheviks were heavily involved in the February revolution, retard.
Ahahaha. Ask me how i know you learned about difference between february and october revolutions only when i posted about it and using info from wiki to rationalize your shitty opinion.

No, they weren't. You are one uneducated faggot.

 

>>16364
So you are a burger too. Not surprising.

 

>>16365
Get ready for work, slave. All of my points stand. Your points of contention are meaningless. Kill yourseld

 

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>>16362
bro did you just add retard to a chatGPT post?

 

>>16366
log off for yourself and the board

 

>>16368
The r slur is heavily used by /leftypol/ so the bot picked up on that and just assumed throwing in a few more insults would make it look more legit

 

>>16359
the RSDLP and its offshoots (such as the bolsheviks, mensheviks, and SRs) were active during all *three* phases of the revolution, 1905, February 1917, October 1917.

 

>>16358
off topic and also slanderous

 

>>16355
>critics point out that King's focus on desegregation did little to address the deeper economic and political inequalities faced by Black Americans and other oppressed groups
(doesn't know about King's Poor Peoples Campaign)

 

>>16354
awful video. seems more dedicated to slandering "Russia" (whether talking about imperial Russia, USSR, or Russian federation, it makes no distinction) than building the case that America is like carthage. Also whines about soviet annexation of nazi territory, and brutalist apartment blocks. peak shitlib

 

>>16356
> Joseph Stalin, who consolidated power and established a brutal dictatorship
glow

 

>>16371
Bolsheviks were active but didn't really had anything to do with february revolution. Do you have facts to substantiate your shit opinion?

>RSDLP and its offshoots

>SRs
Each time you post, you show more and more how fucking ignorant you really are.

 

>>16372
Completely on topic and absolutely true.

 

>>16376
>Each time you post, you show more and more how fucking ignorant you really are.
relax. it was a small mistake. I misremembered the SRs as having broken off from the RSDLP in the early days, but that was wrong. They did work with the RSDLP to boycott the first duma in 1905. My point is the "Russian Revolution" has 3 phases, 1905, February 1917, October 1917, and the RSDLP, including people who were to become Bolsheviks, were involved in all 3, to varying degrees. Before Lenin's return to Moscow after his exile, and the publication of his April Theses, RSDLP and specifically Bolsheviks were involved in the power struggle between the provisional govt. and Petrograd Soviet that emerged out of the February revolution, and they were also heavily involved in the street fighting and organizing during the February revolution. The RSDLP factions weren't just sitting around doing nothing between 1905 and October 1917.

 

>>16376
>each time you post
also you have been talking to at least 2 different anons

 

>>16378
>small mistake
Having no idea about one of the major forces back then is not a small mistake. You are retarded. No point in wasting more time on your chatgpt levels of argument.

 

>>16336

Another parallel:

Kerensky and the libs who took power in the February revolution after the tsar abdicated were in favor of continuing WW1, whereas Lenin and the Bolsheviks were against WW1 and in favor of a civil war.

The Girondins in the French revolution were in favor of war with Austria while Robespierre and the Montagnards were against war with Austria, favoring instead to purge counter-revolutionaries at home.

 

>>16376
>Each time you post, you show more and more how fucking ignorant you really are.
honestly anon in a world where most people on the street don't even know what the october revolution is, your frothing anger over failure to remember its minutia seems deranged

 

>both revolutions under a despotic, reactionary regime

 

>>16354
>America is Carthage
AMERICA DELENDA EST

 

>>16349
What about the French makes them so based?

 

>>16386
they aren't based

 

>>16330
The Napoleon/Hitler connection
Some similarities:
– Poor background and youthful ambition;
– Continued thirst for power;
– A coup d'état to achieve power;
– The goal of, in the one case, creating a new France and, in the other, a new Germany;
– The use of war to expand their influence;
– A desire to conquer Europe;
– Short lived empires, brief rule
– Autocratic rulership style
– Both driven by a desire for "national regeneration"
– A shared failure to conquer Russia ; invasions had similar characteristics;
– Attempts to defeat Britain with a continental blockade;
– Resistance to the regime: in Spain for Napoleon, in all the occupied territories for Hitler;
– Downfall follows defeat by a coalition of countries;
– The story comes to an end with their respective countries in ruins.

They differed of course in many respects but those parallels indeed stand out

 

>>16386
Algerian blood

 

thread is filled with libtards

 

>>16390
Don't be a pussy and vaguepost, call them out directly

 

>>16390
OP is also a retard so this post is proof of history rhyming.

 

>>16392
why is OP a retard

 

>>16393
>Why is OP retarded?
Is this some kind of abstraction philosophy degree thing?
nobody cares how smart you are anon.

 

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>>16343
No comment

 

>>16394
why is OP a retard

 

>>16388
You missed one of the most interesting ones:

Hitler wasn't German despite leading Germany. He was Austrian.

Napoleon wasn't French despite leading France. He was Corsican.

Some people say the same thing of Stalin/Georgia, but that doesn't really apply, since Stalin was the "leader" of the USSR (not "Russia"), which included his home nation of Georgia.

and really he wasn't the leader of the USSR, just the general secretary of its communist party. But libs gonna lib

 

>>16330
>Sympathized with the Girondins, a moderate faction of the French revolution
>member of Socialist Revolutionaries, a moderate faction of the Russian revolution

also:

<Girondins purged by La Montagne Party despite playing an important role in the early revolution

<SRs purged by the Bolsheviks despite playing an important role in the early revolution
<Both Girondins and SRs advocated for war abroad (Girondins wanted war with Austria, SRs wanted WW1 to continue)
<Both Bolsheviks and La Montagne advocated for revolution civil war to crack down on counter-revolutionaries instead.

 

>>16396
>why is OP a retard
nobody cares about your philosophy degree and existential questions anon to normie people OP is a retard because that is just what OP to do.

 

>>16399
you make zero sense

 

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