Police and Their Role in Capitalism Anonymous 08-06-23 13:26:54 No. 17443
What is the role of the police under capitalism? They do protect property and the interests of the upper class, but I don't think it's as clear cut as they merely protect a capitalist's factory and resources alone. They do try to carry out whatever dicta of law is brought in through legislation within their own funding.
Anonymous 11-06-23 18:17:17 No. 17450
>>17449 Don't get high on your own supply.
Police that protected property rights obviously existed in ancient civilizations already. The whole "it just started in the 18th century" spiel is just to guilt trip burgers by creating some retarded association between policing and US slavery. (Which is obviously false, but they are often too lazy and too stupid to look it up.)
Anonymous 11-06-23 18:34:51 No. 17451
>>17450 By modern policing, I mean large bureaucratic police departments, the first of which was founded in Paris under the Bourbon absolute monarchy, which were meant to protect abstract rights free of too much political oversight
Why are you defensive over policing being associated with slavery in the US even though I never brought it up?
Anonymous 11-06-23 20:35:08 No. 17455
>>17451 >Why are you defensive over policing being associated with slavery in the US even though I never brought it up? I'm not defensive over policing.
I simply do not want to have brainwashed morons on my side.
The fact is that there are a bunch of narratives (i.e. propaganda lies to dupe idiots) about the creation of police that try to portray cops as somehow linked to something.
That's why I mentioned slavery as one of the most popular lies is the "the concept of police was invented to capture run-away slaves".
It seems like you have fallen for another tale, while
>>17453 believes something else entirely.
It's hard to tell where these lies come from. Maybe it's just "over enthusiastic" leftists. Maybe these lies were spread to make idiot leftists look more like idiots in the eyes of every reasonable person, who actually looks up the claims.
Who knows.
The point is: Stop lying here and start realizing which parts of your knowledge is just manipulative propaganda nonsense.
Anonymous 11-06-23 21:00:29 No. 17459
>>1496325 >>17457 >A modern police department is way different from a feudal sheriff or whatever A modern farmer is way different from a feudal farmer.
Doesn't mean that "modern farming" has been invented to "capture free slaves" or [insert random political topic].
Also you seem quite angry and you don't have an argument. Only insults. That's typical for someone who experiences cognitive dissonance. So get your shit together and stop acting like some deranged bible thumper who is confronted with clear evidence of evolution.
Anonymous 11-06-23 21:14:57 No. 17461
>>17459 Nta but you’re comparing apples and oranges.
Fact of the matter is large scale corpo farming is different from peasant or subsistence farming much like modern policing is not going to be the same as feudal policing. It’s historical roots are different. That’s his point.
Anonymous 11-06-23 21:16:02 No. 17462
>>17455 lol
Hey einstein has it occurred to you that a particular historical institution can have roots in more than one kind of predecessor? As it turns out slave catching and union busting are very related in that their core function is to keep the workers of a particular class (slaves, proles) in line with what their masters want. Over time those kinds of practices became unworkable (e.g. due to slavery being abolished) so that core function had to adapt to the times.
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