Anonymous 22-06-23 09:24:50 No. 18905
In a capitalist mode of production, scientists are downstream from economics. They are merely workers hired to produce a commodity called research. In capitalism the seller of a commodity (whether that commodity is a good, a service, or labor power) doesn't have the power to tell the buyer (whether end consumer or capitalist) what to do with it. Since it is the capitalist (or their bourgeois representatives in government) who are buying the research (labor commodity) from the scientists (workers), they can use the knowledge in the research however they like. They can withhold it from the public. They can use it to make weapons. Under capitalism, no matter how strictly a scientist obeys the scientific method, or how consistent their personal set of ethics are, they are at the end of the day, merely workers hired in a capitalist mode of production. This is why liberal appeals to "science, logic, and reason." fall flat under capitalism. It is the bourgeoisie who decide what to do with the knowledge (commodity) produced by scientific research (labor).
Anonymous 22-06-23 10:06:48 No. 18907
>>18906 science can exist under capitalism, as can bourgeois pseudosciences. It's just that under capitalism, the bourgeoisie decide what to do with knowledge discovered through the scientific process. Sometimes they keep it secret. Sometimes they use it oppress the proletariat. It is not that
all science under capitalism is pseudoscience, or that
real science never happens under capitalism, it is that science is a commodity under capitalism.
This is the proper understanding of the issue. I sometimes see people suggest real science is impossible under capitalism, or that any discovery made by science under capitalism is pseudoscientific. I do not think that is true.
Anonymous 22-06-23 14:38:15 No. 18909
>>18905 It's not only that scientists are subordinate to capitalists as to whether anyone pays attention to their research - scientists are subject to capitalist funding for their projects and as such don't even get to decide what to research: money makes the decision.
Much like the film industry as George Lucas pointed out, the market determines what you're allowed to do.
Anonymous 22-06-23 17:54:20 No. 18913
>>18907 A lot of research is done from funding from the state so the bourgeoisie don't interfere with science that much. That isn't to say that the scientific community is free from any excess
PUBLISHING BIASES AND MERCHANTS OF DOUBT but it is not a fully commodity yet.
Anonymous 25-06-23 00:32:40 No. 18928
>>18924 >Meanwhile lysenkoists can at least point to epigenetics. And vernalisation
There are orchards of fruit in Moscow and St Petersberg even now that we're Lysenkos work
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