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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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 No.2933

I made these charts recently, if you have any ideas of new charts or charts of your own drop them here.

 No.2934

you really made that shitty Reddit chart? yikes

 No.2949

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>>2934
>YOU REALLY MADE THAT SHITTY REDDIT CHART ???? YIKES!!!
>OUCH, STOP GRABBING ME. EY THAT HURTS. STOP! AAAAA

 No.2955

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reading list from before this board went to shit. Haven't seen it reposted in while

 No.2999

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Fresh out of GIMP

 No.3000

>>2999
Based. Would love a part 2 if you ever have time. Maybe like an after Marx chart.

 No.3004

>>2999
Really good concise list, I would say maybe make the font bigger if you can, since we need this for theorylets

 No.3013

>>2933
i tried to read theses on feuerbach, since that was first on the chart, and it makes no sense. doesnt seem like beginner material at all.>>2933

 No.3015

>>3013
It was one of the first works of Marx and it's very short. Also it makes you familiar with Marx's materialist philosophy

 No.3016

>>3015
>The chief defect of all hitherto existing materialism – that of Feuerbach included – is that the thing, reality, sensuousness, is conceived only in the form of the object or of contemplation, but not as sensuous human activity, practice, not subjectively. Hence, in contradistinction to materialism, the active side was developed abstractly by idealism – which, of course, does not know real, sensuous activity as such.
Feuerbach wants sensuous objects, really distinct from the thought objects, but he does not conceive human activity itself as objective activity. Hence, in The Essence of Christianity, he regards the theoretical attitude as the only genuinely human attitude, while practice is conceived and fixed only in its dirty-judaical manifestation. Hence he does not grasp the significance of “revolutionary”, of “practical-critical”, activity.

what the hell does this even mean? how is the average prole to understand any of this

 No.3019

>>3016
These charts are for people interested in reading and learning, it's not for every prole on Earth. I agree in general that it shouldn't be the first on the list however. I would maybe put Engels there instead. Or the gotha program. There definitely is a barrier between these texts and new leftists because of a lack of understand of materialism, idealism, and dialectics. tbh read the wikipedia articles for these things to get an idea, there are also many good articles explaining these concepts in a less 19th century way.

Basically he's saying all materialism is currently wack, it causes them to think that
>theoretical attitude is the only genuinely human attitude, while practice is only conceived and fixed only in its manifestation
Feuerbach does not think human activity is an objective activity, which is contrary to Marx's materialism.
>>2999
This is a good guide also, you can pick your destiny so to speak. Marx says himself that in all sciences, the beginning is the hardest, and this is no exception.

 No.3021


 No.4092

let's revive and add to this thread instead of reeeeeing and screeching "read theory" all the time

 No.4093


 No.4114

>>4093
>Read theory
&ltHegel
&ltNietzsche
&ltKant
&ltWilliam James
&ltArendt
Who the fuck made that second one

 No.4117

>>2933
reddit is for cringe Zionist Neolibs, anon.

 No.4118

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does this still have value?

 No.8523

>>4118
>still
why wouldn't it?:

 No.8526

What about the least "scary commie" list for average people?

Like Engels' works seem to be more palatable because there's less negative connotations if that makes sense…

idk I'm still trying to design a really short and tight list that could be given to people without scaring them off prematurely.

 No.8527

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>am I forgotton

 No.8536

>>8526
I've been thinking of this question myself. I think the best places to start are the popular pamphlets of the Second International era - still revolutionary Marxism, but from obscure authors with non-Russian names that won't trigger normies. Rosa Luxemburg for example is surprisingly appealing to liberals because of her gender and cool life story, yet she was a steadfast revolutionary Marxist whom Lenin criticized for being too insurrectionary. She doesn't have any really great works for beginners however.

Kautsky has a couple works in this field, the best one being The Historic Accomplishment of Karl Marx that focuses on Marxist political practice instead of just theory. The author and the tone of the writing are less intimidating than Marx himself, but the political message still remains true to his work. Lenin was a fan of this pamphlet, in fact the quote about Marxism being the combination of "English economics, German philosophy, and French socialism" was ripped pretty much directly from Kautsky.

Finally there's The Two Souls of Socialism by Hal Draper. Good stuff while still remaining short and accessible. Some of the political content may be objectionable however, like the constant bashing on the USSR as "Stalinist socialism from above".

I still think that Engels' Socialism: Utopian and Scientific is the best introduction to Marxism by far however. It's tough to recommend to total normies, but if you can sense they're Marx-curious it's the way to go.

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>>8536
>Rosa Luxemburg for example is surprisingly appealing to liberals because of her gender and cool life story
Not only liberals.

 No.8541

Any lists like this for Freudo-Marxists/Frankfurt School?

 No.19080

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bump

 No.19914

Reading list of Marx and Engels where shit that's already repeated in another work isn't included

-Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy + Theses on Feuerbach
-The Communist Manifesto
-Economic & Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844
-Chapter 1 of the Grundrisse
-The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
-Capital
-The Civil War in France
-Critique of the Gotha Program
-Conspectus of Bakunin’s Statism and Anarchy [Extract]

Someone make a chart

 No.19915

>>19914
It's in order, too, btw. So I would write like this instead:

1. Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy + Theses on Feuerbach
2. The Communist Manifesto
3. Economic & Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844
4. Chapter 1 of the Grundrisse
5. The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
6. Capital
7. The Civil War in France
8. Critique of the Gotha Program
9. Conspectus of Bakunin’s Statism and Anarchy [Extract]
Also, thinking about it:
10. The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte
11. The Class Struggles in France

 No.20075

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bumpying for new charts


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