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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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 No.6190

Any one has any reads on atheism that are not just "I hecking love science" like the new atheism movement was?
I remember seeing a book about atheism and german idealism; or idealism in general but I can't seem to find it.
Either way let's just talk about atheism in general.

 No.6191

>anglo
Show some respect, those "anglos" invented modern materialist atheism.
Anyway vid related may interest you

 No.6196

>>6191
I'll bookmark this but it'll take time before I get to it

 No.7002

Bump

 No.7003

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michail-bakunin-god-and-the-state

 No.10561

>>6191
Okay I finally got to listen to this and it was pretty interesting et al but even the speaker admits it's just trivia and not any concrete thought.

 No.10565

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-the-unique-and-its-property
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01.htm

 No.10570

Elementary Principles of Philosophy by Georges Politzer for a simple read

The Ethics by Spinoza

Intelligent Materialism by Ilyenkov

 No.10572

>>6190
The Epicureans, Marx wrote his doctoral thesis on greco-roman materialism. But greco-roman materialism is mostly a historical curiosity nowadays especially since only fragments of their writings remain except for Lucretius' poem distilling the basic worldview, Epicureus wrote multiple tomes on 'his' philosophy but none of them are extant.

 No.10573

>>6190
certain interpretations of eastern philosophy can be atheistic but they're certainly not materialist.

 No.10648

>>10570
>spinoza
>atheist
holy pseud

 No.10651

>>10648
you wanna talk about it?
tell us what you mean

 No.10652

>>6190
Lenin on the significance of militant materialism is pretty good but it's not about le heckin' based atheismarino it's about materialism and atheism's scientific development under Marx.

 No.10653

>>10651
he wasn't an atheist
that's what i mean

 No.10654

>>10648
I mean the guy asked for non-reddit tier atheism so I just gave him the closest thing, Spinoza's concept of God is so far removed from typical monotheism that he might as well have been an atheist. Ethics is just too good of a read to pass

 No.10672

>>10654
what do you think is the typical monotheistic idea of god

 No.10692

>>10672
usually it is the kind of personal god that is discussed when talking about things like the problem of evil etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_god

>A personal god, or personal goddess, is a deity who can be related to as a person,[1] instead of as an impersonal force, such as the Absolute, "the All", or the "Ground of Being".

>In the scriptures of the Abrahamic religions, God is described as being a personal creator, speaking in the first person and showing emotion such as anger and pride, and sometimes appearing in anthropomorphic shape.[2] In the Pentateuch, for example, God talks with and instructs his prophets and is conceived as possessing volition, emotions (such as anger, grief and happiness), intention, and other attributes characteristic of a human person. Personal relationships with God may be described in the same ways as human relationships, such as a Father, as in Christianity, or a Friend as in Sufism.[3]

>A 2019 survey by the Pew Research Center reported that, of U.S. adults, 70% view that "God is a person with whom people can have a relationship," while 15% believe that "God is an impersonal force."[4]

 No.11592

>>10570
Now that i think about it intellegent materialism is a great response to the question


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