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This month's board topic is: /spoox/ - Paranormal, horror and the occult.
­Last month's board topic /AK-47/ was made into its own board >>>/AKM/.

- /spoox/ is a board for discussing the paranormal, horror and occult, as well as its philosophy and influence of leftist ideologies.
- This is not the place to dump or spam right wing facebook-tier conspiracy theories or /pol/ schizo ramblings, those may be subject to deletion.
- General rules of the site apply, see : https://leftypol.org/rules.html
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I will brutally murder all dogmatists one day when I finally get my way, you are going to be the first one


Which conspiracy theories should I subscribe to as a leftist (aside from obvious ones like cointelpro or the JFK assasination and shit like that) and which one should I write off as schizo shit
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Bob Marley apparently got killed by the CIA


I think this board, although a bit slow has been fairly successful.


>Which conspiracy theories should I subscribe to as a leftist
Elite pedophile-blackmail rings. Assume all porkies are decadent degenerate hedonists unless they prove otherwise.


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>Our foreign trade agreements and the exact total of reparations that can never be paid must be made public. We demand to be precisely informed of the uranium deposits in our country, on their exploitation and on the concessions to the Russians in this area. We demand that Hungary have the right to sell her uranium freely at world market prices to obtain hard currency.
<Let us sell Uranium privately to anyone (NATO)
>We demand the replacement of emblems foreign to the Hungarian people by the old Hungarian arms of Kossuth. We demand new uniforms for the Army which conform to our national traditions.
<Return our nationalist symbols REEEEEEE
Totally not suspicious tho

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At the time of my story I lived in rural Massachusetts, to anyone who's familiar that means miles of woodland with spaced out suburban areas in between. I was walking down my grandfathers logging trail getting ready for his funeral. I'm also an avid mushroom collector, so I'm always walking slowly and staring at the ground, friends hate me. So I get to this cool little white capped mushroom and stop to take a close-up picture of it. That's when I heard it; the best way I can describe it was as if someone with a lot of flesh on his knuckles were punching a tree. Now, I know what deer sound like when they stomp to protect their children/are smashing antlers on trees. I've heard bear, Fischer cat, moose, pretty much any animal in western massachusetts that exists. So, naturally, I looked up, freaked the fuck out. It was so rhythmic. THUD. THUD. THUD. it went on for minutes at the same pace. So, being the curios person that I am, I let out a whistle that couldn't be mistaken for a bird. (NOTE: I'm looking in the direction of the thudding, can see out 75-100 yards through my grandfathers well trimmed trees, and see, NOTHING.) right after my whistle, I hear a low quick whistle back. My first though is "oh it must be some asshole logger scoping the land past the no trespassing gate", ignorant, I know. So I yell out "HELLO?!" Pretty much as loudly as I could. Then, whatever it was, ran away faster than I've ever hear a human being run. And using my experience with deer/dogs/moose/bear, I assessed that I couldn't possibly rationalize it being a 4 legged creature. I know what they sound like running, and this was much closer to a 2 legged creature, I'm 100% positive on that. What doesn't make sense, however, is that that 2 legged creature that ran away from me, faster than any two legged creature I have ever heard before, also sounded like it was at minimum, 250lbs. The steps were loud, and frantic. A lot of people believe Bigfoot has a spiritual connection to the forests it remains in, and thus, the creatures in it as well. I do not find it a coincidence that this happened the day of my grandfathers funeral. I ran all the way home.


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What a weird story anon. I don't really believe in bigfoot (my thoughts on it is that maybe thousands of years ago a similar creature existed but it went extinct) but I have no clue what it is you could've seen.

I think the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life was a UFO that looked like pic related and also had a similar size. I have no clue what they're called (in english or my mother tongue) but iirc they have something to do with ventilation, in the roofs of houses, though they may be older technology cause I've not seen any of these recently. I must've been like 6 or 7 in my backyard and I saw it floating above my house, like 30 meters in the air. I barely remember it but I'm almost completely sure it was not a baloon or anything like that. I don't even remember if it flew away or what happened with it but it's the closest thing I've ever seen to a UFO or anything like that in my life.


>What a weird story
Yeah, I made it up


>At the time of my story I lived in rural Massachusetts

holy fucking shit, i'm terrified already



Wow. you're really brave anon, I probably would've shit myself.

I've honestly never had any really weird experiences but I do remember one time I walked into my basement to get something from my freezer and got really freaked out. So there's a little room under my basement stairs where we keep a bunch of holiday stuff and the door is closed almost 99% of the time but this time, it was open (no biggie, someone probably forgot to close it) and as I'm walking down the stairs the goddamn door slams shut. I freaked out and just ran upstairs. It would've been physically impossible for the wind to slam the door that hard and no one was down there.
Me and my sister just joke that "Harold" (just a dumb ghost name we made up) slammed the door but I still get freaked out from walking into the basement alone in the dark.


>heard bear, Fischer cat, moose, pretty much any animal in western massachusetts that exists
Yeah first tell is "Moose" and "bear"
bears are rare as fuck in Mass and Moose even more so. Not even going into the fischer cat shit

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Harvard professor Avi Loeb has long been outspoken about taking the search for extraterrestrial life more seriously. In an eyebrow-raising quest, he’s often even exhorted his colleagues to take UFO research more seriously.

Now, Loeb says he hopes to collect a “high resolution image” of a UFO within the next couple years, according to a new interview with the Guardian.

“I really want the next generation to be free to discuss it, and for it to become part of the mainstream,” Loeb told the paper. “My hope is that by getting a high resolution image of something unusual, or finding evidence for it, which is quite possible in the coming year or two, we will change it.”

Last year, Futurism talked to Loeb about his book “Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth,” which purported that an interstellar object that drifted through our solar system in 2017 may have been an alien probe rather than a boring space rock. At the time, Loeb said many of his colleagues held UFO research at arm’s length and generally dismissed findings as natural events or the stuff of conspiracy theory.

“The scientific community can address a topic even if other people address it in a way that is not scientific and doesn’t make much sense,” he said.

Loeb heads the Galileo Project, in which a team of more than 100 scientists are establishing a network of sophisticated telescopes to scan the skies for extraterrestrials. According to the Guardian, Loeb’s first telescope will begin operation from the roof of the Harvard college observatory this summer, equipped with infrared cameras rolling 24/7, a radio sensor, an audio sensor and a magnetometer to detect non-visual objects.

“We’re taking a road not taken so there may be low hanging fruit, that nobody else picked because it was not taken,” Loeb told the Guardian.
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That patent just described a weird kind of EmDrive. In fact, all of the patents and the Navy's unusual openness about them reeked of a disinfo-op meant to trick adversaries into wasting time, money, and brainpower on pseudoscience.


That does seem most plausible. If they had discovered something even close to that significant they would obviously keep it as secret as possible.


Saying they have it doesn't actually tell people anything and doesn't give away secrets, But more likely its some theoretic shit that they tested in labs and are trying to flaunt.


aliens are real but the recent videos are absolutely not and the military does has no contact with them and no special crafts


How would these probes(?) even make their way to Earth? Interstellar travel seems pretty impossible

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How does /spooks/ feel about the empty internet theory?
All I see and read about it it's really shallow and sometimes feels like cope. Here we know capitalism just want ti turn the internet into a cattle farm but nobody else want to admit it.


Its typical solipsism

Unfortunely for you the majority of braindead idiots you meet on the internet exist in real life( although yes bots exist)


I think it depends on the website and forum, twitter and reddit are filled to the brim with bots and shills, particularly on popular political subs in reddit's case. The shift on r/politics from normie, but diverse, politics before the 2016 election to the most obnoxious democrat circlejerk on the internet was not organic, to say nothing of the reddit line on Ukraine. On twitter its known that most of the like are fake and paid for, or that bots accounts are used to repeat the same identical tweets on some special interest, or artificially inflate tweets that are in line with the agenda of whoever paid for the bots. Even when I made tweets critical of US foreign policy in some way I would have obvious bots like and retweet it.
On forums, including imageboards, and in threads here, certain types of discussion about certain contentious issues or conspiracy theories tend to draw an abnormal amount of posts clearly seeking to derail the thread in a variety of ways.
Dead internet theory is an exaggeration of the real issue of digital astroturfing and the corporate-intelligence state's goals of controlling the internet to prevent the masses from being more informed and organizing.


Dead Internet Theory seems to me to be a mystification of digital-age capitalism. It's easier to imagine the internet being secretly taken over and replaced by a malevolent deep state Illuminati AI than it is to imagine the blind idiot gods of STEM Valley and the market being fallible. Everything DI "theorists" point towards such as
>corporate social media platforms unseating individual and independent websites
>the attention economy
>walled gardens
aren't mysteries at all, in fact their origins and mechanisms are easy to trace. It's not surprising that DI is so popular with rightoid-adjacent schizos, as it allows them to acknowledge their experience on the internet has gotten less enjoyable (it has for everyone) without having to admit it's /theirguys/ (capitalists) who are responsible for it.

A lot of DI argumentation is also extremely shallow. Just like Flat Earthers, they commonly seem to fall into imploring people that "something just feels wrong" and if they just "really look" hard enough they'll see the truth. There is something almost charmingly boomerish in how they're convinced internet comment sections aren't real because "no one can really be THAT stupid, right?"

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We're all riding the Kali Yuga together. ITT worship Hyperborea, denounce the modern world, discuss magick, aliens, theosophy and Atlantis. Only for people of Indo-Uralic and Indo-Aryan origin, no semites and reptilians allowed. Praise Evola (pbuh) and Guenon (pbuh). Praise the sun. This is a shitpost
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Most of these "Übermenschen" are basing their entire ideology around LARP from 80 years ago (plus the HOI4 mod)


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>It is said that only when someone chants the Garuda Vashikaran Mantra will they extricate the Naga Bandham (snake binding spell) & only then can the door be opened. For it is said to be guarded by Lord Vishnu. And anyone would opens it will Die and a curse will be unleashed apon the entire world.

Furthermore it is believed that no sage exists of such holy caliber right now in this world to be able to chant the mantra. And that one day there would be born a holy child who is destined to open it.

IT makes me so mad that unknown riches and historically important stuff is hidden in shit like this and nobody can investigate it because of spooked morons

>muh curse

suck it up and go send an army inside


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According to one of the codices, Aztlan does seem to have been an island. It's also unrelated though because it's located in mainland North America and the Mexica(what the Aztec called themselves) left it in about the 11th century AD, way later than the date people give Atlantis to.


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I WILL move to Hyperborea


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ITT: post things science cannot explain (yet)
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Science still cant explain squirting


Time slips


im trying to cum inside a white person :(


it goes through the bladder and comes out the peehole but contains no urea. whether that fits your definition of piss or not is purely semantics. we know what squirting is, we don't know why squirting is.


This is a /siberia/ thread.

Biological systems are so unfathomably complicated it boggles the mind.


NASA 2024 moon landing jeopardized because space suits aren't ready

If they did it more times in the past, why are they developing again the necessary technologies?
They still use Soyuz rockets to bring spacemen on the ISS, but they allegedly had the technology to bring them to the moon.

>B-but the people who had the know-how died so they need to do the work all over again

Yeah, sure.
>B-but they didn't it again because there is no incentive to do it anymore
There is no economic incentive in space exploration at all, that's why SpaceX is in deep red and basically only takes public funding. Also owning a base on the moon is a big strategic advantage.
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>replicating the capability should be childs play
no incentive, plus it was a public sector effort and America has totally gutted its public sector and privatized everything. People only wanna do space travel for profit now. Public sector space travel is mostly aimed towards maintenance of satellites we depend on for our communications technology, rather than stunning feats like moon landings. Besides that, many of America's scientists involved in the moon landing (like von braun) were brain drained from other countries.


1. No incentive
2. Lost tech
3. different focuses
4. brain drain
5. America's education system and public sector have been utterly gutted. we aren't producing scientists anymore. China is.


>no incentive
That's not the meaning that NASA had, in claiming they couldn't do it, they claimed they couldn't replicate the technology and so do the moon landing.
>America has totally gutted its public sector and privatized everything
>many of America's scientists involved in the moon landing (like von braun) were brain drained from other countries
True, but claiming America lacks the engineers and scientists capable of replicating the calculations and mechanics is not true.

Lost tech or not, NASA should theoretically be able to do it. But if they can't then they shouldn't be able to have done it repeatedly for Apollo, either option means someone is lying about something.


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Actually, we've been to the moon a lot more than the public knows about. The moon landings were staged, but not as in fake. They were staged as a pretended attempt to get to the moon, trying to normalize the idea before revealing to the public that we'd had a moonbase up there for centuries due to dark teleportation magick.


>he thinks the moon is real


>Thousands of scientists cooldn't keep that secret REEEEEE!
All and I mean all government contracts in the US are divided up in such a way that you are in charge of or make part A you have 0 information what its for or what its going towards nor about part B-Z. This is to prevent any and all leaks and keep complete confidentiality. Bombs, aircraft, weapons, rockets everything you can think of. If a scientist is told to build a rocket he is not going to be the same person seeing it in action. What this comes down to is the number of people truly in the know about the operation can be counted on 2 hands. Someone in control of watching the monitors has 0 fucking clue on if anything even took place as no readings would show it. Because of this it is very likely faked considering we "cant" go back and that the technology is "lost". Either everyone who built a part is dead or has no memory of what they built or the final product failed and is properly kept under wraps. The men that made the NASA crawler are currently the only ones that can properly repair it and not enough of them are alive to ever replicate it without taking it apart, measuring it all and putting it back together. You can create a similar device again, but not 1:1 replication, nor could it be done back then either, since only this handful of engineers understood them.
They didn't necessarily fake all the rockets and stuff, they failed to go to space/reach the moon. A hoax landing footage could have easily been made after the initial Apollo tests had failures that killed the originally planned crew.

TL;DR: The Left hand is not going to know what the Right hand does and vice-versa


This thread is for investigating occult and magical methods for bringing about a leftist cause.

This is certainly not anything new, as something that promises as much power as magic will always be linked with politics. In fact there are a few interesting stories surrounding this that goes beyond tick-tock ‘witches’ trying to hex trump or something. Rosicrucianism itself had many ties with revolutionary politics, because it’s ideology was based around bringing an esoteric revolution upon the world itself, but one manifestation of this ideology was the Order of the Elus Coen. Now make no mistake, this order was full of aristocrats and slave owners, hardly revolutionaries - but strange coincides were abound concerning this order. The order, unlike orders such as the Golden Dawn, was not only focused on bringing about a change within the members themselves but also bringing about a change in the outside world in order to reintegrate it back from it’s fallen state. They would exorcise demons, bringing them back into the light with power of angels. All in all, they wanted to hurry up the process in which Christ would return and the will of God be fulfilled. That in itself is simple, but there is a strange timing to all of this. The order was located all around France, and was founded in 1767 and officially lasted until 1781 (though it still unofficially existed for some time) - 7 years before the French Revolution. One important member, and close apprentice of the founder (Martines Pasqually) was enthusiastic about the French Revolution despite being an aristocrat, calling it ‘a miniature of the Final Judgment’ and God’s will being made manifest. May I ask, could it be?

Occultist and member of the OTO Grady McMurty wrote a thesis linking Marxism and magic, which you can read here
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Tl;dr: it’s never incompatible with leftism, just your version of it. Which is fine concerning you and you only, but don’t go around claiming your specific internal philosophy is the only leftism there is.


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The occult is in no way, shape, or form incompatible with Leftism. Esoterica has usually been the force in mainstream religious movements pulling the rank and file away from reactionary lurches.

>"But anon, isn't the occult the purview of feudalist cultures?"

Sometimes. But just because something was associated with them doesn't mean there's an inextricable link. The esoteric system of the Egyptians and their palace economy was the closest thing to a socialized system in the ancient world (provided we ignore that palace economy implies a hereditary monarchy with totalized ownership of product). While some may point to Tibet as an example of this, your common monk has no more political power than anyone else, and the Lamastic government in Tibet need not be the only system, and it certainly wasn't when Padmasambhava went there, and even for a few hundred years afterward - it was the egalitarian force disrupting society and thus was subject to suppression by Bon proponents. China even seems fine with Vajrayana so long as it's not actually propagating nationalism, actively supporting the Dorje Shugden factionalists - whether or not you view this as simply a wedge to divide and conquer, they are doing it. In Germany, though the Winter King, Frederick the Elector Palatine, was CERTAINLY a ruling aristocrat, his interest in alchemy was a liberalizing force given his belief in an esoteric utopia. In England, tradesman cults like Horseman's Word, Miller's Word, and the Bonesmen were essentially primitive trade unions, gating membership by passing through occult rites, securing wages against exploitative bosses, and they would eventually contribute to Traditional Witchcraft movements that have now become quite popular.

>but what about the idiots

Buddhist logicians moved away from binary logic thousands of years before we would. Their theorists of mind have a stronger grasp on cognitive psychology than our clinicians. Abhinavagupta was a polymath whose insights to aesthetics are largely responsible for codifying India's methods of dance and music giving rise, many steps removed, to Bollywood Newton was interested in alchemy. Dee was one of England's foremost mathematicians and intellectuals and held discourse with angels. Hegel may have had some interest in the HermetPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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National socialism is occult politics looks like


NatSoc bullshit is all about aesthetics. None of them know what the Sonnenrad actually is beyond maybe a sun symbol because one they don't actually know semiotics and two the archaeological record has the object as a decorative item of really vague provenance.

NatSocs are appropriative. They will take anything and everything and try to forge an imagined legitimacy. Hitler's own statements on religion appear to have been tailored to his audience in that very moment, pro religion in one speech, anti in another, generally with a negative view of the occult itself, but appropriating some symbols for his public shows of power. Some chucklefuck's might have gone to Tibet in search of the True Aryan Race but none of these people gave a single watery shit about what those people believed, practiced, or thought, they just took some skull measurements and fucked off. Hitler wasn't out here promulgating the Dharma for the benefit of All Sentient Beings he just slapped a symbol on his flag that he thought looked kinda cool.

In a roundabout way this is the same problem we see with like Andrew Chumbley (a trad witchcraft dude) in the occult community - he put out some texts that, if you squinted, maybe seem dark and sinister but really legit are not. These materials were then appropriated by edgelord Klipot "theistic satanist" assholes so now when people see Chumbley's work they point at him and say SEE he's a Darque Edgelord when it's extremely not the case. And we're letting the NatSocs do the exact same thing by staking out ownership over a symbol set and field of study that probably covers close to two billion people if we count all the systems that have a swastika in their iconography plus "Western" esoterica in the broadest general sense.

If we let the Nazis, historical or extremely online, own everything they brush their grubby little fingers against we're going to be living in a rapidly shrinking world until not even praxis remains and all we're doing is shitposting on a niche webs— Oh. Wait. That's already happening. While I would debate the merits of individual folks trying to talk the Esoteric Hitlerists off the cliff (it certainly isn't worthwhile for everyone to be doing - one nerd should not be your praxis), it cannot be denied that having folks well versed in some of this shit placed in esoteric communities caPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


found footage/lost memories thread

this was apparently too scary for kids back in the day


>The episode prompted an unusually large amount of mail responses from parents, almost entirely negative, within a short time frame. Typical responses included parents concerned that their children were afraid and now refused to watch the show, using such phrases as "screams and tears" and "the threat of the witch's power remains in children's eyes." A somewhat atypical missive came from a self-proclaimed Wiccan, concerned with the perpetuation of a negative fairy tale stereotype and recommended a segment "portraying witches as they really are, now."
>Due to the overwhelming reaction, additional test screenings were held from March 1 through the 5th, "to assess children's reactions to the Wicked Witch of the West." The tests showed that children were "exceptionally attentive during the Margaret Hamilton segments," and those who watched the episode in color were fascinated by her green face. The issue of fear was difficult to fully judge, due to confusing answers and the fact that the children were surrounded by their peers and adults, and not alone watching. However, due to the parents' reactions, the letter content and testing observations, Anna Herera of the CTW Research Department suggested "that the Margaret Hamilton show not be re-run."
just busybody parents

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