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I genuinely hate 4chan Jannies
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Ngl, while I think this joke is funny I still agree with the jannie on this one. If anything, it's too little too late - I remember back when /b/ was genuinely the only board on the site where you could reliably get away with this sort of obviously inflammatory shit. When they stopped containing the containment boards it fucked all the other boards up.

Altho >>290530
might have a point. Like if unironic right-wing derailing is still tolerated then banning goofy /b/ shit isn't gonna solve the site's problem.


Many such cases. Sad!


log off primitivist
rare 4chan jannie w


I have a lot, but "Heroin" by Velvet Underground, "Kiss Off" by the Violent Femmes, or "Lets Dance" by the Ramones are examples of songs I like.
I don't hate songs you should dance to, and even if I did I wouldn't say something isn't a word of art just becuase I don't like it. Even the lowest forms of entertainment could still be considered art.
I just took an opinion (a dislike for that sortof music with cringe lyrics that normies can relate to, and loud percussion that normies tend to dance to) and took it to its extreme, to start a conversation.


Dance is considered a 'fine art' but the concept of 'fine art' is itself a bourgeois phenomenon, in ancient times anything done skillfully was considered art, simply doing your job well would be considered art.


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That's a realization that is breaking the brain of many people at this moment tearing them apart looking at every crevice to hide under trying to cope with it and ignore the reality as usa rapidly declines on world stage

What was it like for you when you realized this?
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I used to be the "normie" and I used to say things like you, and then the MLs were able to convince me. They were able to convince me at nearly 30. When I was at my most materially comfortable, and had a steady job and career prospects. I wasn't some misguided teenager doing it for the larp, or some loser jealous of the rich. I became sincerely convinced not by theory, but by history, at the necessity of violently defending the gains of a revolution from external sabotage by imperialists and reactionaries. Go figure. You cannot defend gains with pacifistic liberalism. Look at the USA. All the progressive gains they made are being whittled away by reactionaries. Their most radical social democrat, Bernie Sanders, wants to raise corporate taxes to rates that are lower than they were under FDR. You cannot peacefully abolish commodity production overnight through reform. What's funny about the "tankie" bullshit is that it is the social democrats who threw Rosa into the canal. It is the liberals and conservatives who support drone strikes and coups. It is the reactionaries and fascists who carried out the most gruesome genocides. Then they fabricate lies about every single "regime" and leftish liberals and socdems obediently believe and repeat these reactionary lies. It is a constant uphill battle when your closest "allies" on the political spectrum are constantly believing lies told by the reactionaries and bashing people to their left for some vaguely defined "authoritarianism."


>MLs are glowies
>MLs also are known for being against the west
anon are you ok


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>your theory of imperialism does what i said. "waaah america bad" hey have you considered capitalism bad instead?
i didn't pick america for personal reasons, but because it is the center of the capitalist imperial core in the current world order. It is America couping socialist countries, installing compradors, putting developing nations into debt with IMF loans, extracting natural resources, and imposing privatization, deregulation, austerity, and labor discipline. If America falls, and a different nation becomes the capitalist hegemon, I will criticize them just as ruthlessly as I currently criticize America. America is the global hub of imperialism and capitalism, as the world currently exists, just like the British Empire was in the 19th century.


before i was a ML, i was learning about the horrors of the US. it's kinda becoming mainstream to talk about america being bad so it's been a steady build. reading theory and actually learning history, however, opened my eyes to the true horrors committed at the hands of the american empire


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How much longer will be bound by markets?
They literally don't work if you think about it more than 5 seconds. I can't stand the market driven life anymore its so nonsensical
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In fact I am correct, gift economies never existed

: something voluntarily transferred by one person to another without compensation

There is always expectation of repayment in symbiotic exchange, or the "gifts" stop or worse


>money came into being to make gifts easier


Is that true?


it is a category error on your part if you can't differentiate between gifts and exchanges. all anthropologists can do this but the online ancap/Agent Kochinskiite can't so i guess they're actually the same


I gave you definitions so the whole concept of gift economy is nonsense, it was always barter with surplus commodities, for expectation of return of surplus commodities.

I am not surprised that "the anthropolopriests" do this, even David Gerber was pushing an agenda.

Only gift economies that exist are modern welfare states, that take money from proles and give it to welfare porkies


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A few days ago, the name of George Orwell came to the spotlight during a discussion in the Greek Parliament. In one of their usual dogfights, Prime Minister Mitsotakis and major opposition-Syriza leader Tsipras referred to Orwell's concept of “totalitarianism” in order to attack each other. Mitsotakis quoted the novelist's aversion towards “left totalitarianism”, while Tsipras replied that his party has always been critical towards the actually existing socialism. Their reference to Orwell is no accidental: Despite their particular differences, bourgeois politicians find themselves on the same camp when it comes to anti-communism.

Eric Arthur Blair, commonly known as George Orwell, has been a symbol of enmity against the 20th century socialism. Under the pretext of “anti-totalitarianism”, conservatives, neoliberals, social democrats, progressive leftists and opportunists have idolized Orwell as an uncompromising intellectual who deserves to be respected. His famous allegorical novella, the “Animal Farm”, is considered a masterpiece of literature against Stalin's “totalitarian regime” in the Soviet Union. The so-called Orwell Foundation, based in London, which aims “to perpetuate the achievements of the British writer George Orwell” runs the Orwell Prize seeking to reward books and journalism that “making political writing into an art”.

However, the reality about Blair is quite different from the one the bourgeois propaganda presents. Orwell wasn't merely anti-stalinist or anti-soviet; he was an anti-communist who became an informer on behalf of the British intelligence agencies.

A former officer of the Indian Imperial Police in Burma, Blair joined the collaborationist trotskyite Workers' Party of Marxist Unification (POUM) during the Spanish Civil War, fighting against communists and anti-fascists. Orwell's participation in POUM shaped his fiercely anti-communist views, covered under the burden of “anti-stalinism”. Between 1941 and 1943, in the midst of the Second World War, he worked in the BBC's Eastern Service. During this period, he wrote a review for Hitler's “Mein Kampf” where he shamelessly admitted: “I should like to put it on record that I have never been able to dislike Hitler”.

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Saying he's merely promoted is an understatement. Orwell is a staple in western schools. I personally had to read both 1984 and Animal Farm. Shit writer btw



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The more MLs seethe about Orwell the more I'm inclined to agree with this.


What is it that you agree with exactly?


Orwell was like a more talented Paul Mason


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Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content.
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.


This is the place where you can find all /leftypol/ memes n' shit:
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Well the old guard communists warned us about the blood-thirsty liberals, so this is not entirely unexpected, but why did this guy make a comedy sketch about shooting miners ?

Did his class hatred for laborers blind him about the fact that he's basically standing on stage arguing for murdering a bunch of people.


>Did his class hatred for laborers blind him


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>norm was a bushcuck


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post meme templates and objects with transparent backgrounds, etc. for our OC makers to use.
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nice stirner collection


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surprised to not see this one


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rate my new template


LMFAO I love it


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Do you think images like these are taken seriously when posted on imageboards or is it all just some elaborate irony and jestful
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That's a common theory that's pushed.
"All slaveowners are Jewish!"

Perhaps, but you whitebois still hold racist undertones.


Jews are white and I'm tired of pretending they're not.


It's a Louis Farrakhan pushed thing, who's of course one of the only black people neonazis like


i used to have this pic saved of a fat dude in a maga hat at his church wearing a shirt that said "jews owned 95% of all african slaves" or something like that but i can't find it.


white americans, despite making up 0.35% of the slave owners population, fought 100% of the wars to keep slavery.


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/Ukraine/ thread #20 - Based Chicago LARP edition

>Russia Has struck multiple AFU groups using cruisemissiles
>US Anti-Radiation Missile secretly sent and used in an attempt to disrupt Russian SAM operations
>N.Macedonia sending su-25s and T-72As to Ukraine
>Zelensky and Poroshenko admit to being undemocratically elected
>French Volunteer Whistleblows n the investigation finding no evidence of Russian blame in Bucha
>British L118s spotted in Kiev. Previously a month ago a handful of Ukrainian troops left for Britain to train in their tactics and artillery, these are probably them. In the meantime, Russian counterbattery recently destroyed another M777.
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Idk, im not a historian, but I thoguht that Lenin was forced into ceding all of those lands independence in order to end the war. Im sure he had to say some stuff to convince people to agree and tahts what Rosa is critiquing?
Also recall reading somethign about Trotsky fucking up the peace process so more points in Lenins favour


Here we see the psychopathy of the middle class w*sterner on display. "I / my parents are solidly middle so I don't give a fuck what happens to anyone else".



ukraine has been playing defense the whole time and losing ground. it's incapable of offense except potshots here and there with soimars and randomly bombing civilians. the previously vaunted "Kharkov offensive" was rolled back within weeks and the recently vaunted "Kherson counter-offensive" is now being admitted to have all been infowar bullshit and never going to happen. it's all just ukrainian meatbags fed by the thousands into an artillery grinder while russians gradually take more and more territory. there's no turning that around, it's just prolonged to satisfy some scumbags in DC who never gave one shit about anyone in ukraine in the first place.
>I will enjoy the coming winter in my warm apartment
well, good for you bougie. too bad for all those europoors. but their suffering will be for a good cause, you imagine.


Well, it may feel the world is full of those type of retards but remember those talking points are pretty expensive.


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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's hyper-normalization of petty internet drama.

Reminder that none of this is real!
Society of the Spectacle

The Culture Industry: Enlightenment as Mass Deception
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Comfy comrade Roo fallout 76 stream
Will we ever get comfy streams where Comrade Maup and Comrade Roo are shooting the breeze again?


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leftypol btfo


Another banger from Dr. Bombacci


So haz is just openly flaunting LaRouche people on his channel now?


Jreg running for mayor of Ottawa on a full employment platform



Why do aspiring businessmen and entrepreneurs feel the need to ritualistically haze themselves like this in order to succeed at their goals?


never stop that #grind
if you can't suck your own dick today, you will tomorrow!

keep at it hustlers and entreprenuers!!



Can you describe what it is they do?


Because capitalism is a religion and inspirational talks are worship services and 'elf-improvement the moral dictum less you commit the moral sin of being a 'loser'


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The latest spread of the monkeypox virus has prompted The World Health Organization (WHO) to convene an emergency meeting, Britain’s Telegraph newspaper reported on Friday. The disease, which is typically confined to forested areas of western and central Africa, has been spreading rapidly in a number of European countries, as well as the US and Australia since early May.

According to the report, high on the meeting’s agenda are the mechanisms behind the virus’ transmission and possible vaccination strategies. Dr Mike Ryan, Executive Director of the WHO Health Emergencies Programme, is reportedly attending the discussion.

The newspaper claims that the WHO is looking at whether smallpox vaccines could be used effectively to tackle the spread of back to monke.

Meanwhile, the UK government has already ordered additional stocks of the smallpox vaccine, which is being administered to people who may have been exposed to monkeypox, the Telegraph reported. On top of the 5,000 doses the British authorities have on hand at present, an order has been placed for 20,000 more shots, according to the report.

In Africa, reports of the risk of death, if untreated, are as high as 10% to 11% in the Central African clade of monkeypox.[1][11]
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Okay but wages didnt just go up because there were less people. There was a lot or violent clashes and conflict between those events.


Can you get monkeypox from hookers if you do plain vanilla sex only?


yes, the flu is one of the biggest killers of humans.


I wouldn't fuck hookers even without the monkeypox pandemic happening. Literally asking for an STD, yuck


Female cashier who caught monkeypox in Georgia talking about her experience


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Hypothetically I just nutted and rolled up all of it in a big tissue but it fell on my bed, and it was only mildly wet with the goo

Am I obligated to clean it now? The sheet didn't even get wet or anything

Is that unhygienic?
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Was a big box of Nerds. Cant remember the exact flavour variety.

I approve but no one would have got what I meant.


Wrong website to be asking this question, op


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when is laundry day? and does like not even a little cum ooze out when y'all have sex? your partners and yours??

cute, what do they taste like? it looks like pop rocks

this is the correct website, all commies are fucking and you are basically stupid… click here to find out more shorturl.at/cdHOX


Nerds taste like pure sugar and artificial flavoring. The texture is basically lumpy sugar balls so it's crunchy. Makes a good ice cream topper if your teeth can handle it.


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My teeth cannot handle it, I basically just swallow whole sweet stuff

Don't know how I'm gonna manage eating the donuts and cakes on my b-day

It looks pretty as hell, It's like that fake nitrogen ice cream balls they sell


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Guy from Quora deboonks marx. He argues that new products and innovation makes the so called tendency of profits to fall irrelevant. Is there more nuance to this? Of course its not just marx that argued it but people like Smith, Ricardo also said the same. Did they all fail to see the reality? Opinions?
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>if you haven't read sufficient theory to have a real understanding of what I'm talking about
I can't know what you're talking about if you refuse to talk about it. You haven't even stated whether the argument Feenberg presumably offers is your own.
>this a chan not a debate at oxford
I have no doubt you'd obfuscate in the same way if someone asked you outside of an imageboard. Arguing by hiding behind citations is something like a bad habit in the university.



suck me dumbass, read a fucking book


lol. For philosophy of technology, which is more what I would have considered a book like Feenberg's, I am actually familiar with that. I just don't consider myself familiar with the history of science and technology. At the same time, you've just hemmed and hawed about this without saying anything for yourself. That and your apparent insecurity are revealing enough for me to be satisfied you have nothing to say for yourself.


I'm with the other anon. What does the book even say? What are the general ideas? Share what you know. What's the point of mentioning shit if you just namedrop fields and concepts without any elaboration. What does this Feenberg have to say? It doesn't even have to be very specific, just what are the general themes. Really anything.

I don't see the point in being smug about other people not reading. Just share what you know. Doesn't even matter much if its wrong, just share.


The consensus is actually that Marx's Fragment on Machines is based and correct. I think you are talking out your ass.


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They are simply called "The Underworld" and yes it does exist. See 1993 Bombay blasts.



Anyone ever seen the C-Word series by BlackFlag India

>tfw we live in Drigisme society


good find, we discussed BFI in an older desi thread


they are forcing poor people to buy flags to get ration
patriotism is a sin

this is what all those forced "stand up for the national anthem in cinema" leads to

fucking brainrot, what is a nation without its people? brainless bureaucrats and their mindless minions


have you watched them all? i got up till the poverty video
neolibs defend capitalism but with a metric of their own stupid system

36 Rs. a day to live on is above poverty line? Stupid as hell line


 No.416549[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.
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I am trying to find the original German version of Feuerbach Gedanken über Tod und Unsterblichkeit, but the only one I could find is 1848 version written in Old German font (Fraktur). Are there possibly any German-specific websites or trackers with books where it can be present?


Dear german anons, do you have any opinion on MLPD/KABD? From what I understand they were essentialy Hoaxist org in their early days, but I can't find many sources on how they are now. Anyone can help?


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Rein akademisches Kreisgewichse à la Wertkritik. Für selbsterklärte Marxisten haben sie auch eine seltsam individualistisch-psychologische Denkweise, wie >>1111996 schon sagte.


AFAIK piracy of books is near non-existant. You probably found scans of public domain books, often from US universities. Some organizations typeset their own editions and https://ludwig-feuerbach.de/ did that for some books, but not the one you need. The most recent physical copies of his collected works are also long out of print. You will need to get used to it.


they're western mautists i.e. a cult



There is literally zero reason why any comrade should be anti-abortion in 2022.

Change my mind.
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most likely poland, but am not sure. Guessing here.
This is especially fucked, because nowadays anti-abortion lobby points at statistics from '50 and '80 saying "look how many children compared to now", despite the fact that abortion was legal in PRL since '58 to '89.


And who controls the supreme court?


yeah i'm in poland
i hate this shithole so much, looking at our economic growth rates from 1950 to 1972 and the sorry state of our economy now makes me wanna send a pipe bomb somewhere


hey it's not bad. At least you are not tow. Michal, that's a start!


I want to convince you of becoming pro-abortion in the sense that we should aim to abort all babies.

Pay people to get vascectomies, pay people to get the female equivalent, pay people to abort their babies, free condoms, promote oral sex. Questions? I didn't think so.


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I see a lot of praise and some criticism of the BPP on here, but not much in depth discussion of the different theories developed by the group. The Panthers were by no means a unified block, and different chapters and leaders all had different theory with regards to Black Liberation and Communism in amerikkka. As I understand it, they started out influenced by the earlier black nationalists, as well as theorists and revolutionaries such as Frantz Fanon and Malcom X, but over time, some chapters became more focused on Communism as a whole, while some went further in the direction of Black nationalism. Fred Hampton is who I see referenced the most because of the Rainbow Coalition though he was by no means "anti-idpol" or "anti-woke" as groups like the CPI try to claim, nor was he a patriot by any stretch; Eldridge Cleaver was more of a traditional Revolutionary Black Nationalist who saw Black people in amerikkka as a nation and believed that they needed to work together with other colonized people in the world and prepare for guerilla warfare (before he contracted chr*stoid brainworms at least); but one person I rarely see discussed is Huey P Newton.

Huey didn't necessarily believe that Black people in amerikkka constituted a nation in the traditional sense because they were geographically dispersed and spread out into various communities, so with this in mind, he developed a theory called Intercommunalism, which viewed the world and nations at the time as a series of communities fractured by multinational corporations and imperialist aggression. He also posited that there exists a reactionary Intercommunalism composed of small communities and cliques of the bourgeoisie (which we see take the form of imperialist and aspiring imperialist powers). This theory sought to bring about Communism by forming a united front against imperialism composed of distinct liberated zones.

I propose that Intercommunalism is applicable to modern conditions, and with some adaptation, it can be of use to the Communist cause as a whole. Capitalism and imperialism are thoroughly hegemonic at this point, and the sorts of revolutions proposed by Marx and Engels and carried out by the Bolsheviks are no longer feasible. The revolutions of national liberation that occurred during the 20th century are no longer possible either, as the imperial core has demonstrated that it has the capability to crush them like we saw in Grenada, suppress thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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How much was Hueys drug addiction a contributing factor do you think?
I don’t see that discussed often.


Burgerland works 2


> Capitalism and imperialism are thoroughly hegemonic at this point, and the sorts of revolutions proposed by Marx and Engels and carried out by the Bolsheviks are no longer feasible.
I'm curious what exactly you mean by the sorts of revolutions proposed by M&E etc, and why you think it's no longer feasible?

My understanding is that a true proletarian revolution is more feasible than ever now, and will be even more in the future due to a more multi-polar world. The revolution carried out by the bolsheviks had to compromise heavily (an extremely important alliance with peasants, turning "councils of workers delegates" to "workers and soldiers", federation of self-governing nations rather than coming together as one force, etc. - all of these were necessary and beneficial to the situation at hand, but also undermined the ability of the revolution to carry out a socialist plan long term).

One point of critique rather than just questions: if you liberate a community by force, the state will do just about anything to wipe you and potentially your whole liberated community out. In the case of much of the western world, there's really no chance for guerrilla tactics. You would just be faced with an overwhelming force, sans a supportive peasant base spread through difficult mountain/jungle terrain. On the other hand, the legal establishment of liberated communities is essentially traditional tactics - building up bases of support in proletarian communities. I mean this sort of happens naturally in the course of class struggle + socialist agitation as well. There are scattered neighborhoods or cities with a high density of approval, among a backdrop of bourgeois dominated communities. If this is what you mean, then this insight is very useful and necessary to keep in mind, though not original. If you mean liberating communities through dual power, elections, etc. then I will say, this is not going to be possible (this is my prediction, based on the fact that it's never worked, and the communists who did gain power had an antithetical idea), and is directly in contrast with the idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat. The DotP means the suppression of one class by another. You might get this by voting or setting up peaceful institutions, but more likely you'd have to concede the fact that it makPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


i think huey describes cleaver pretty well in his revolutionary suicide book very well


Intercommunalism just seems to be looking less at a state level in their relationships with one another, and focus moreso on local geographies to find who is the victims of imperialism and the identity of the local elite. That sort of micro look at class geography is relevant into how one organizes and how one leads a revolution, just as the Russian and Chinese and every other successful revolutionary tends to go about enacting change. It is no more and no less.


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I'm thinking of doing this tiktok thing, Do you think it'll cost too much electricity

I love colors so much, Post inspo or you're rooms, I've always wondered how you're homes look like [Non-threatening]
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mfer are you friends with female velociraptors? i've only heard of animals making foam

well a smart bulb just seems lame, like one thing that glows

a strip is more exciting, it's spread across like stars in my room


if that's what you want, then you must be doing right?

why meditate on a cushion? wouldn't the flat surface be better for relaxing

i love the space in the 2nd, the 1st gives me vibe like i'm a british officer stationed in punjab or something, writing letters,

3rd is cute and cozy little

wtf is wrong with you


i never had a bed and a room and it makes me super sad js thinkin about it


hey me too, i got one only now at 23
cheer up your time may come soon


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Old /co/ thread is dead and buried.
Let's have a new thread to talk about comics and animation.
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peeter pee tarker
no, pee taker


were arachnids even around when dinosaurs existed


Did Saban or Disney treat Power Rangers workers worse?
Have they ever been unionized


why is the p silent?

all poo poo
no pee pee makes teter tarker a bitter biter

i bet they did, insects are the true owners of this planet

you hear about how cockroaches survived the extinction event?


Yeah, but they couldn't spin silk back then, so spider-dino's power set would be a little reduced.

>why is the p silent?
Because it is in pterodactyl, English doesn't really do 'pt' sound clusters so we just do 't'.


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>As a result, from then until the Ceaușescu regime fell in 1989, about 1,500 Jews a year were granted exit visas to Israel in exchange for a payment of cash for every Jew allowed to leave, in addition to other Israeli aid. The exact payments were determined by the age, education, profession, employment, and family status of the emigrant. Israel paid a minimum of $2,000 per head for every emigrant, and paid prices in the range of $25,000 for doctors or scientists. In addition to these payments, Israel also secured loans for Romania and paid off the interest itself, and supplied the Romanian Army with military equipment

When one of your main exports is jews lmao, Hitler should take notes
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This, honestly.
Selling off vital staff for that little sounds like debt spiral invitation.


This is the most Romanian shit I've ever read.

>"Heiiii, prietene, ce faci? I've got these Jews… two thousand dollar. Good deal. Listen, they're driving us nuts over here. Scoate din pepeni!"


It's like a really politically incorrect joke about "the only way to beat the Jew is to become the Jew."

Oh crap, did you hear about Romanian literally selling Jews?

Jews: "How much are they asking?"

Oh around $2,000 per Jew.

Jews: "Hmm. Good deal…"


I wonder how much they haggled him down


The west had 'good' relations with any socialist nation they believed had broken off of Soviet influence and could be manipulated.



Politeness, table manners, etiquette, etc are all social constructs created by the bourgeois to control and oppress the proletariat. Are you belching and farting at the dinner table in order to fight the good fight?
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agreed. Im sure proletarian social constructs would include these things but it depends on the context. we've been cucked into being polite to our oppressors while being cunts to our peers


Sure, I eat alone.


No but I do "Pull my finger" trick on me mum
Am I fighting the good fight, no? But I am farting the last night




Farting at dinner table is unsanitary


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🗽United States Politics🦅

Absolute State of America Edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the Earth.


State mandated propaganda livestreams:
CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFEegalitarianism
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Am I the only one that thinks DeSantis coming out so fast and forcefully against the FBI raid just makes him more suspicious?


As dumb as Trumpoids are, I still can't believe people will see clips like this and somehow tell themselves the USA isn't in steep political decline. I had forgotten how wacky the last two years have really gotten.


The way the media obsesses over him reminds me of the buildup to 2016. Can you imagine any leftie getting this much coverage?


I adopted a little bit of a "Confucianist" analysis (without being one) to look at this, because the Trumpfags are not really conservatives in the sense of trying to preserve the social order. Okay, they might subjectively believe that's what they're doing, but by smashing up the rituals and traditions of the American state (like the transfer of power) they are undermining a very important source that the order draws on to reproduce itself.

I think it's like fascism or a similar phenomena of a reactive, nihilistic and irrational embrace of the abyss that is rising out of the declining empire's stricken heart. There's no real future there, it's the sound of the freefall.

It's related to liberalism, but when I say that liberalism and fascism are related, I don't mean it primarily as a condemnation of liberalism. More like fascism being one of the internal possibilities of its self-movement, and already we see the Democrats competing with the Republicans on their hostility toward China or Russia as the sinister foe in the shadows rigging the elections. There are enemies everywhere!!! And Trump has failed by any conventional logic, but by another measure, Trumpian-style politics seems to be succeeding at changing the atmosphere.


>He's even to the point of weaponizing the FBI for political shit
you have to go back


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ITT "villains" who did nothing wrong.
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You do realize that the CIA has its traitors too yes? Ames ring a bell?


> That's not what it was at all. Imagine you have a girlfriend or wife, who promises loyalty as you do your duty to her and the people of the sea, then you come back after waiting and working so long to find her gone, abandoning you and your sacrifice and betraying your love and efforts. Are you supposed to just accept it lying down like a dog? Or does this only matter if its the man who betrays the woman?

So you just
>Point out that Davy Jones got cucked
<Continue arguing he wasn’t a cuck


How is it cuckoldry if there's no BVLL doing the cucking? Otherwise it's just your gf leaving you.


>Point out that Davy Jones got cucked
Cuckoldry: the practice of making cuckolds; SEXUAL conquests of married women.
Cuckold: A man whose wife is SEXUALLY unfaithful, often regarded as an object of derision.
Calypso was not sexually unfaithful, she reneged on their agreement by not standing by him as he had stood by her. This is not cuckoldry.


i actually had this image saved from another site and didn't know it was also posted in the avatar thread lol


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Post rants about how much you hate those spoiled faggots. Probably one of the most brainwashed political class in human history, far more than retarded Christian peasants.
I'll post some shit that infuriated me past couple of months
>landlord wants me to pay for repairs despite the house being broken before I settled in
>boss at work says he'll leave the country if Bernie ever wins
>girlfriend's parents, both landlords, said they're pissed because minorities moved into their building now property price might go down
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>bourgeois PMC
Aren't PMCs a part of the working class? I thought that they were proletarians with bourgeois aspirations.


Programmers and other tech "workers" are the perfect slaves of the bourgeoisie.
>Paid just enough to make more than 75% of people but not enough that they'll ever be bourgeois themselves
>Terminally online and unable to affect any real change even if they wanted to
>Can be used to parrot bourgeois talking points to a massive audience through the use of social media and the Internet


no they're a seperate class that has replaced the petty bourgeoisie according to the theory


Yeah it's sub-optimal that PMC stuck as a term, it's not a class from a Marxist theoretical perspective. (and it used to mean professional military contractor)
Class is determined by the relation to the means of production. It would have been more correct to just say managerial strata. (A strata is a group of people with shared life-experience.) Call it PMS maybe ?

Overall if you are trying to find out whether a worker will support socialism or not, you have to look at how many labor hours they put into the system, and compare it to how many labor hours they get back in the form of goods and services. A small part of the working class gets more out then they put in, and that part will not support socialism. Of course you will always have people that betray their interests. Exploited workers can become counter revolutionary and people with a bourgeois class status can be revolutionary (for example: Friedrich Engels, Marx's best friend, sponsor and Co-Author of "The political economy of Capital" was a capitalist who owned a textile factory). So this, lets call it "labor time coefficient" is a pretty good indicator, but it is meant to describe societal flows not individual people.

I guess i'm going with it's not good theory.


Isn't this theory kinda btfo by the fact that university students who suckle value from their parents and society seem to be the biggest supporters of Marxism?


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Fuck politics and their movements, Marxism is a part of politics. Politics is a failure, im not gonna take up failure. You say communism isnt an end goal:
>Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself
And actually it's a journey
>We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.
But journeys and movements have destinations and you follow that up with saying "people in 2050 or the 22nd and 23rd centuries will bear its fruits" so there is a goal.

The other day I have realised the reason why I keep disagreeing with Marxism. It's because communism and marxism are political, they are seeking political action. It's about working within the current circumstances and material conditions, ergo working within the system.
As an anarchist, I reject everything inherently political. I've left politics in 2017, it's been many years since I saw how politics infiltrated anarchy and saw what politics is. I cannot unsee it, this is like when I left the Church and religion over a decade ago. I'm not going back to praying to jeebuz.

Communism is a result of class struggle within the system. I'm long past working with the system or within it, I'm interested in post-scarcity and full automation instead. JFK was one big proof of failure, that working within a system is futile. But then also thousands of years of trying to make a peaceful world through politics has resulted in more wars than ever. I'm not that ignorant as to ignore such a wealth of results to bash my head against the wall repeating the same prayer like a retard theist thinking god will help.
Marxism is a real movement working within the confines of the current situation of material conditions, solving the problems through dealing with the system, but I'm done with that shit. Other people that are long dead have tried this, but I don't want to waste my life on politics, I just want to live and thrive. I'm not gonna pursue shit that had failed in the past, I've found a solution that is realistic and possible within my own lifetime.

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Because of this I've come back to destroy everyone in this thread. Feel free to come at me.

>evidently not, given you are currently participating in political discussion. an agnostic doesn't talk about their agnosticism.
this isn't a political discussion its just a discussion, not everything we're talking about is politics even within that discussion as some of it is economic or philosophical or sociological or whatever else (technological), i'm not talking about how to do politics when i talk about how to not do politics

>How will one implement the policies needed to make these things available for a society without having a political stake within that society is beyond me.
Policies are inherently a political invention they cannot be implemented without politics. Post-scarcity is an engineering problem not a political one

>According to this definition, every type of change would be "reform". Even "leaving politics in 2017" would be a "reform" of your political participation. Otherwise, explain to me when change stops being "reform".
i dont have a definition of reform i clearly stated i'm using the original definition not just the political one, im not the author of the word and no, not all change is reform sometimes when things change new things happen and they form, not reform

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And how are you gonna magically create post scarcity automation without the bourgeoisie owning it all?


>It's about working within the current circumstances and material conditions, ergo working within the system
What system? Reality? Yeah, you have to work within reality, anarchist.


>I dont know why you assume being beyond politics is a movement, or that anarchy is a movement, neither are i'm not part of a movement i just want to be free and live in peace and luckily for my own species want the same for them
So you are a vague liberal with little to no actual desire to help others except yourself. You're basically functionally identical to an ancap or whatever other individualist idealist nonsense.


>It was never the intent to be anti-political, but apolitical originally. If the entire planet is politicized someone apolitical is naturally pushed into being anti-political, and thats the fault of politicos. If there was free habitable land and men and women were free to go make their own lives using their own means, it wouldn't be necessary to be anti-political, but the problem arises when politics makes slavery of the entire planet and we have to live under globalised legal regulation, living under the threat of violence (imprisonment if we dont obey the rules and do things the legal capitalist way)
This is your brain on having never read Marx, or anyone else



""post interesting photos""
scary vibes: ""allowed!""
bad vibes (cruelty and shit): NOT ALLOWED
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Not really since I saw the human under the suit and figured she's kinky.


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>"You ever listen to the word of Okran?"

Luv Okran,
Luv the holy lord Phoenix,
Luv prayer day,
Luv bread
Luv the paladins fighting those Narkoite's (Go get em boys!)
'Ate Bugs and Shreks (Not a racist, Just don't like em!, maybe they should try to reincarnate harder next time eh!?)
'Ate those fall of man causing 'Skeleton' abominations against Okran He's right you know

Discuss anything Kenshi related ITT (Greentexts, your base, your squad, debate favourite starts, Lore etc)
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So let me get this straight about this whole plot of kenshis history
Apparently after the ancients died out for over a thousand fucking years in kenshis version of the Holocene. No one not a god damb faggot in the wasteland that formed soon after thought of reunderstanding the sciences and repairing the old machines and tech lying around the moon? No one bother learning math, or the basics of mechanics, or materials or anything else around them in favour of empire wars and bandit brawls?

Listen I know I’m being nit picky but humans really aren’t stupid especially in groups and thanks to post modernists there’s a lot more information that suggests a lot of the discoveries made we consider “modern” have been known for thousands of years or even longer like mechanics and to a smaller extent electrodynamics


I think the research labs are supposed to be more dangerous to loot than they're depicted in-game and the schematics themselves should be pretty much impossible to decipher without specialized knowledge, but tech hunters and machinists have made progress in things like hydroponics. The world is so dangerous and inhospitable that it's difficult to support large, interconnected populations and research centers, so it wouldn't surprise me that information sharing and innovation is limited. The one thing that bothers me is apparently no one knows how explosives work and are instead using high-tech machinery to make really sharp swords.
Also the ancients were wiped out (or left) a few thousand years ago, in the wake of that civilization's collapse the world was left scarred and dangerously polluted. When the skeletons tried to fix things they made initial progress, even setting up their own research and engineering centers, but eventually they got fucked by multiple overlapping cataclysms (like whatever created the Grid) outside of their control and things started unraveling quickly. Initially there was a resource shortage leading to the Mk-II skeleton body, and rebellions started soon after.
They may have created the cannibals in a lab to deal with the Deadcat rebels, and some disaster (?) created the canyon in Wend that flooded the skeleton manufacturing centers and put a complete stop to their production and essentially doomed their kind, as they didn't have the technology to create CPU units on their own and relied on ancient labs to do so. After the fall of that empire the world was left even more dangerous and even more polluted. There's also the fact that a couple skeletons are working diligently to ensure some of the information about the past, and possibly its technology, stays lost. There's a lot of suspicion around skeletons and technology in general, and the Holy Nation is dedicated to making sure that information is destroyed as well.


Basically it goes like this.
>First empire / Ancients.
Space fairing tier civilisation that collapsed for hazy reasons, we don't know exactly why, maybe a bronze age collapse on a universal scale, skeleton rebellion or some convergence of all the head-canons the fandom has come up with - We don't even know that the world of 'Kenshi' was the capital planet of this empire, it could have just been some periphery penal colony or some shit.
**My headcanon has always been that potentially after Obedience and the Skeletons on 'Kenshi' revolted whatever galactic empire Kenshi was part of declared some sort of 'quarantine' (think the way systems with [REDACTED] presence is treated if your a fan of starsector - Anything trying to get off world is detected by some sort of autonomous weapons system like the eye and gets blown the fuck out of the sky, thus why there's so much industrial / ship wreckage all around the planets surface - This galatic
>First Interregnum
After shit collapsed everything was absolutely tits up for a while - this is never really expanded upon
>Second Empire.
Cat-Lon and his skeleton army unify most the continent asides from the shek cities and the hives, Cat-Lon is pretty cool for a while and the population began growing again, Labs were re-established 'Pretty good!'
But then a combination of crisis's like the 'Northern humans turning to cannibalism' among other things made Lon act more and more like a DICKtator until whoever Okran actually was led an uprising, taking over 'Okran's pride' (One of the most fertile places on the continent, with accessible fresh water) - Effectively shattering the empire, Cat-Lon essentially runs away to the Ashlands to go insane and whatever territory was still held by the 'empire' was reorganised into the 'united cities' with its system of local nobility / feudalism with puppet emperor's
>Second interregnum
Modern day.


Kenshi (as in the planet you play on) was almost certainly a periphery world in the ancient space-empire, otherwise there would likely be many more relics of that age other than stuff like the Eye, the busted (nuclear?) generators in the eastern desert, and the shards of I-frames from skyscrapers you can find in parts of the desert, so on.

Plus Stobe's sacrifice was against the 1st Empire trying to destroy the planet for unknown reasons (maybe some kind of degenerative plague, which eventually made all of the northern human tribes into feral cannibals) on top of the Eye satellites which were put in orbit to basically scourge all life from the planet but failed, hence why large chunks of the continent are just desert and the sea level fell - the Swamps were originally a massive port city, according to a Skeleton.

As such you can presume that the continent Kenshi takes place on has grown across the years as the Eyes kept working their heat-ray magic and evaporating more of the water, making a decent chunk of the Atlantaeuropa hellscape deserts which the UC lives on come into being, which explains why so much of it is just dead and can't grow anything - shit is literally salt-sands.

Also since the 1st Empire was so hilariously advanced, its pretty likely that a lot of the most powerful tech was far beyond the reach of common people, and simpler, easier to recreate tech like firearms had simply ceased to exist because they were so ineffective compared to the death lasers they were using. Advanced bionics made melee weapons viable again, Metal Gear Rising style, which is why you have the super-advanced Meitou weapons lying around as well. There are probably so few due to the 1st Empire taking a lot of their shit with them when they left the planet, so there is really only scraps to work with for rebuilding civilization. Even the 2nd Empire realized this - with the means of making new skeletons lost, and loads of skeletons committing mass suicide after the [REDACTED], they knew they were a dying race and tried to use the remaining technology to create new races to inherit the functions of the Empire after they fell - hence the Shek to act as legal enforces, and the Hivers to act as producers for goods and materials (this is more specuPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


wish i could play the game but i only have a shitty laptop


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Thread mainly for discussing the war in Ukraine, but discussion of other geopolitical issues such as Yemen CIvil War, the China-US conflict or Iran-US conflict or any X-US conflict is also appreciated.

Previous thread >>818936

For previous threads, check >>>/leftypol_archive/


>N.B. liveuamap.com is not to be trusted, they mostly parrot Ministry of Defence, these others may not be better, check their reporting first



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and i don't mean the "not a country" in a serbian nationalist way, but in a material reality way: without EU, UN etc. presence and bureaucrats and stuff they could not be able to exist as a country.


how was this joke from yesterday
a Serb, a German and a Kosovan go into a bar and have a drunken time. They decide to measure who has the longest dick (dudes rock)
The Serb: 14 good centimeters!
The German: ha! Thats nothing! Almost 16 here
The Kosovan: wait until you see Americas!


Without Russian support the DPR and LPR wouldn't be able to exist either. I support them and I support the Russians bombing Kiev for trying to ethnically cleanse the region.
Guess what my reaction will be when sharts bomb Belgrade again in Operation Z: NATO edition


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Today marked the 5th anniversary of the martyrdom of Mohsen Hojaji, beheaded by IS terrorists. A fearless warrior and martyr of the Axis of Resistance, multipolarity, and anti-ZioWahhabi terrorism


How do you guys think a conventional war between the US and China pre-2030 would go?


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Why is the education in America so fucking shit? Thinking back to my experiences in High School, History was the most bare bones garbage that I'd ever experienced. Things like the Korean War and the Cold War were skipped over (I didn't even know we had a war in Korea until Middle School) and important events like the Civil Rights movement was very quickly glossed over or ignored. PE was "just walk around the gym until the class is over" and Health was the most worthless bullshit (I learned about DRIVING then the human body) Sex Ed (from the first one we had in 5th Grade) was piss poor always being extremely rushed (we had it again in 7th and 8th grade and we didn't even finish because it was shoehorned in. Lemme seperate these because this will be too long and drony
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>does this happen in your country?
In my country there's something closely related to Computer Sciences. 12th grade and we're learning goddamn Excel (instead of any FUCKING PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE!!!) Ughhhh


><furless, gillless, flightless and tailless
>forgot no venom



Itt: uneducated American complains


Lol this narrative breaks apart once you realize the Japanese and later korean school systems influenced by Prussia was way fucking better


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Thread for discussing ATLA and LoK or rather analyzing both, appreciating the effort of creating the former and shitting on the lazy liberalism of the latter
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Fucking hate this smug libtard.


Dropped this the moment he claimed Korra Season 3 is "as good if not better than Last Airbender at times"


>3/4th of an hour video doing fanfiction attempting to make Korra not complete shit

>Frankly it'd be a much more compelling idea to have him defeat Ozai and convince the Fire Lord to repent (much like Naruto did to many of his enemies) using this defeat as a practical demonstration of his ideology of Peace being better and stronger than Ozai's ideology of Domination and Destruction.
To do that justice would probably require the whole season, which honestly might have been better than the season 3 we actually got. Instead of building up Ozai as some ultimate anime villain, he and Aang cross paths a few times or something like that and Aang works his way through the Fire Nation sabotaging the war effort and solving people's problems, undermining morale on the home front. By the time of the comet maybe they just can't hold up the war machine any longer because of the combination of sabotage and Aang subverting their loyalty to the war effort. Like the episode where he wins over the school kids, but for the whole season.


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>To do that justice would probably require the whole season, which honestly might have been better than the season 3 we actually got.
Perhaps, but honestly even if you only changed the final episodes of S3 you could still have Aang do the entire curbstomp of Ozai, then deactivate his avatar mode and talk, casually slapping aside Ozai's attempts and finally taking his abilities, not through energy bending from a special turtle, but perhaps an advanced version of Ty Lee's abilities that he uses to shut the Chakra-gates he already learned of, and in taking this non-fatal route finally prove to Ozai, that HIS idea of peace and non-violence is superior and that he proved it by beating Ozai at his violent game and then displaying mercy.

But expanding on my 'Talk no Jutsu' analogy, Talk no Jutsu works usually because of the enemy’s inherit contradiction in their beliefs and actions. That's the reason it didn't have relevance to a character like Madara or Deidara or Hidan. Ozai is supposed to be a generic fascist, and that's honestly fine, Lily Orchard's one good video talks about this.

BUT your idea could function. Aang could use perhaps some Spirit bending thing to demonstrate to Ozai the things he saw and felt, hiding in the Fire Nation and other nations, the squalor and hatred and abuse and death and misery, all wrought by has actions even for his people. To demonstrate that his idea of conquest brought nothing but destruction and would eventually destroy him too.

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