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 No.416549[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.
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Du liest das so:
<wieviel Arbeit, Produktionsmittel und Lebensmittel sie ohne irgendwelchen Abbruch auf Geschäftszweige verwenden kann
Der meint das aber so:
<wieviel Arbeit, Produktionsmittel und Lebensmittel sie ohne irgendwelchen Abbruch auf Geschäftszweige verwenden kann
Könnte man auch umstellen, so:
<wieviel Arbeit, Produktionsmittel und Lebensmittel sie auf Geschäftszweige verwenden kann ohne irgendwelchen Abbruch
Oder umformulieren:
Um Stockungen und Krisen zu verhindern, muss die kommunistische Gesellschaft für Projekte, die lange andauern bevor sie einen Nutzen bringen (Beispiel Bau von Bahnstrecken), im voraus abschätzen und planen, wie viel Arbeit und anderen Ressourcen dafür abgezwackt werden muss.


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ich ich ich. Gott, ich hätte gerne gedient. Aber doch nicht Bundeswehr.
Hätte mir auch gut getan :P


Schlabba Ukräini, kann ich da nur sagen


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Bro came so close. He's flirting with prison time for the ukraini


she ;)


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>Princess of Wales: Kate image withdrawn by three news agencies amid 'manipulation' concerns

>Three photo agencies have retracted a picture of the Princess of Wales over concerns it has been "manipulated".

>The image, taken by Prince William and issued by Kensington Palace for Mother's Day, showed Catherine with their three children.

>But Associated Press was the first to pull the image as it "did not meet" the agency's photo standards. The agency noted an "inconsistency in the alignment of Princess Charlotte's left hand".

>Kensington Palace declined to comment.

>The photo shows the princess sitting down, surrounded by Princess Charlotte, Prince Louis and Prince George, the latter wrapping his arms around her.

>It was the first official photo of the Princess of Wales since her abdominal surgery two months ago. Since then she has stayed out of the public eye.

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Reminder that Scots invented the Munchy Box. They tried bringing it to America but were never able to capture the essence of slop the same way the Scots did.


The American attempt does look tragic tbf, I think the irony of Americans commenting on British food being bad is seeing them trying to cook while not following a specific recipe on Instagram. Maybe they're just fucking with the rest of the world, because you'd have to be insane to think crushed up Pringles can be a stand-in for mashed potatoes, or that an entire block of cheese without being grated or sliced but covered in mashed up Doritos and dumped in an air fryer is cookery.


I think it's a crime how you English think a beverage should be prepared. For one, I think there is already enough sugar in a coke to enjoy it as is. But even worse is pouring a powder into a soda. That's how you get rid of all the carbonation genius.


the can has black text, which would suggest that the coke itself contains zero sugar.


Having good taste is objectively proletarian so no, fuck British food.


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 No.1675313[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Not trying to be an enlightened centrist here, but it has always seemed odd to me how people on the right and left fetishize the concept of a militia taking down a conventional army, when reality has shown the opposite result every time, I come from a shitty third world nation that is barely held together most of the time, and my country has experienced numerous rebellions by Islamists, ethnic nationalists, and communists, and every time they have failed. This is because a "well-armed and well-funded militia" is no match for a well-armed, better-trained army with superior logistics and structure. Of course, in the event of a total collapse, a militia could potentially become the only proper authority for a region or if faced with an entirely incompetent and corrupt army. However, in most cases, a real army always prevails over militias. I don't know how people fell for this meme really, Eve Marx bought into this up and advocated for workers' militias, which ultimately proved to be a massive waste of time and loss of life for everyone involved, the Spanish Republicans insisted on using them in the Spanish civil war and they were a massive hinderance that lost way too many battles, and thoughts of forming an actual army was "Stalinism" and a betrayal of the revolution.
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Yes, and the US famously being one of Venezuela's main weapons suppliers today.
>you follow the retired glowie in omitting that the west propelled Iraq to war with Iran after the revolution.
So true xixter. Ignore the breaking of treaties, hundreds of border violations, sending terrorists to bomb schools and hospitals, "death to kuffar", "theocracy now!" and "exporting the revolution" suff.


Most importantly, remember in 1979 when Saddam send his diplomats to congratulate the new Iranian government, being one of the first states to do so? How did the Ayatollah respond? Why by calling Saddam an infidel and inciting a revolution in his Shia majority country.
Imagine if it was the other way around, we wouldn't hear the end of it.
What my fellow "materialists" fail to grasp beyond these silly reductive narratives, is that Ba'athists were third world national bourgeoisie. They couldn't give less of a fuck about what either the US or Soviets wanted. They were looking out for their own interests, and they acted rationally against an irrational threat. If Ba'athists were stooges, Kissinger wouldn't be on the record calling for their overthrow few years prior to the war, arming Iran with one of the biggest and most modern western arsenals in process.
>Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini called on Iraqis to overthrow the Ba'ath government, which was received with considerable anger in Baghdad. On 17 July 1979, despite Khomeini's call, Saddam gave a speech praising the Iranian Revolution and called for an Iraqi-Iranian friendship based on non-interference in each other's internal affairs. When Khomeini rejected Saddam's overture by calling for Islamic revolution in Iraq, Saddam was alarmed.


>the US famously being one of Venezuela's main weapons suppliers today.
The same US that grounded Venezuelan air assets by refusing to supply parts and support. Almost as if fluid geopolitics don't effect the use of legacy systems from previous alliances. The recent developments with Venezuela and Guyana make it seem unlikely that the US is famously anything with Venezuela rn. Extremely sus how quick on the draw you were with that vid btw, anon.
>West causes chaos on Brzezinski's World-Island
>It's actions ensure that only an extremist formation can overthrow it's dictator.
>West criticizes formation for being extremist and immediately sides with Iraq, playing every side all the time
>Resulting in Iraq being propelled into war with Iran
>Leftists suffer, as always.
The details are downstream of this. Xixters.


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>US-backed expansionist Iran invades
>gets fucked
I fail to see how this is my problem


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your response Iraq shills


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 No.1825226[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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Agent Z should've surrender and be done with it.


According to RT, he's declared his final solution, all Russian language to be banned in three months, total cultural genocide.


Why? The helicopters will get him out and he'll be a millionaire touring America giving lecturers about Russchists.


This kills Ukrainian television


I have to say, all the Ukrainians I've met in Poland don't stress about the war. They hate Russia, but aren't fretting about the loss and just want to be away from the issues plaguing the country
One Ukrainian I know, who is far right as hell, says the country is doomed and a lost cause, better to live in Europe


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 No.941093[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together with the Leftypol Twitter account:

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
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>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

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It was never alive to begin with. A person who claims to be "left" while unironically supporting the Biden administration when it's committing genocide and doing everything Trump wanted to do is not alive intellectually.


thats perfectly in line with being a leftist actually, a term that should be avoided by communists because it has always been vague and included liberals and all classes


Turns out the burgers are just talk and bark. No bites at all.


>muh american youtube


Is cold war mentality even exist?


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If neoclassical economics were completely true, how would one go about constructing a planned economy such that:
1. there are no significant shortages or surpluses of goods
2. goods and services are distributed more or less according to utility
3. investment in new industries and firms is done at least as efficiently as in stock markets

I've read Cockshott and been really intrigued by his model, but it seems to use the labor theory of value as a load-bearing assumption. I don't want to argue against this theory, but I do want to ask a question concerning the counterfactual world where the mainstream models of economics are more or less correct. What would a planned economy need to be able to do in order to meet these requirements in this world? What would be the most effective way to direct production? Pic unrelated.
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>neolibs for the first time discovering Marx has a kind of fascination with capitalism
it's also not like Marx is against price control per se, but pointing out it's no path towards communism


Look up Abba Lerner.


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The short answer is data. That was Cybersyn's goal. Equipping every major factory with a computer that transmitted inputs and outputs of that day back to a central mainframe.
Socialist calculation has to utilize surplus value differently than capitalist calculation and to do so the first task is the replicate what is essentially an obfuscated function in the capitalist mode of production.


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Good thing planned economies have nothing to do with communism. Cockshott is a fucking retard who believes shit like value being a biological process (instead of a social one).


I just realized another thing with OP's question
>1. there are no significant shortages or surpluses of goods
this is nonsensical to neoclassicals since they assume a general equilibrium at all times. their analysis starts with assuming supply = demand
>Good thing planned economies have nothing to do with communism
explain how a communist economy is supposed to work if not through coordination in kind (which is what planning is). the only other option is coordination by value. is there some third category that is neither use-value nor value?
>Cockshott is a fucking retard who believes shit like value being a biological process (instead of a social one).
no he doesn't. he asserts that value is transhistorical however (which we can, axiomatically)


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Talk space socialism to me. Was recently rewatching a few series with my fiance, both old and new Trek, and we both feel like Deep Space 9 is our favorite series (closely followed by TNG).

Everything else in order from best-to-worst would be:
Deep Space 9
The Next Generation
Voyage Home
Wrath of Khan
Undiscovered Country
Picard Season 3
Lower Decks
Motion Picture
Strange New Worlds
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Here's the Marx quote if anyone is interested.


based comrade Rom refusing bribes from his brother-boss



>it's the 99th "i made a /hobby/ thread in /leftypol/" in the past couple of days

Weird trolling technique?


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Alex Kurtzman talking shit about filler episodes when he's a writer for goddamn STAR TREK is completely crazy. You are not going to fucking make it.


 No.32028[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

There's going to be a Fallout TV show and it looks like a yoghurt ad. It's also solely based on Fallout 4 and it's going to have even more BOS wank. Thanks Todd!
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Sorry if I spoiled it for you.
But all I can say, is it’s only dumb if they’re serious about making it canonical with the games.


why do redditors love lolsorandom """deconstruction""" humor


>I don't like any of this shit but still I sorta respect the show for being this ballsy and not afraid to make drastic changes to an already established lore.
you say this like all the bethesda fallouts havent been watering down the series from the beginning lmao


>Sorry if I spoiled it for you.
I don't care lol. What works about the show is more in the delivery than clever twists. I already know the big ones.


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Looking at the unnecessarily vitriolic response to "nerds" pointing out the lore or whatever leads me to believe that a lot of people are deeply self-conscious about not paying much attention to the stuff they watch/read/play and feel that anyone who chooses to do so is personally attacking them.


 No.1650427[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators
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>Paul Cockshott
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Yeah. It's a common problem for the Caribbean countries. I think Cuba is doing pretty well considering the circumstances, I just hope they can hold out until the embargo ends (night only be when the USA collapses at this point).


>Can someone explain the logistics of why socialist economies such as cuba isn't using cybersocialism already?
institutional inertia
party disinterest
lack of software
geopolitical reasons
>Another problem the USSR had was a lot of corruption apparently, can someone explain where that came from?
the onus is on you to demonstrate this supposed corruption
there were perverse incentives in place, leading to what some sources liken to a game of poker played between Gosplan, its ministries and workplace managers. then you have tolkachi operating in the gray market to paper over deficiencies in planning via barter
>Apparently it got so bad that legitimately ahead of time projects such as OGAS (Soviet Internet Idea) never came to fruition because of the corrupt bureacrats.
this was more due to its cost rather than any corruption. Glushkov also wasn't a good political economist, if Elena Veduta is to be believed
>Would cybersocialism reduce the shortages
you can formulate the system so that supply must always exceed demand, including safety margins. the USSR never did this
>increase the quality of life
if there's sufficient labour, materials and political will then I don't see why not


Good explanation

>you can formulate the system so that supply must always exceed demand, including safety margins. the USSR never did this

This should theoretically put an end to the shortages, and sounds like a very smart idea


it's not free though, since if you add say 10% safety margins at every level and you don't need them, then ten levels up you're producing 160% more than you need to. this gets attenuated by the amount held in reserve in storehouses, so perhaps it's enough to say "keep one month's supply extra just in case" or something like that


<In this post I will make the argument that error control (feedback) is not sufficient for good planning and that feedforward control is indispensable for good planning.


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 No.1762168[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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The early Israel was just as genocidal as evident by early Zionist figures stating that ethnic cleansing was a necessary component to realize their goals, which actualized as early as in 1948 in the Nakba were numerous Palestinians of various ages were raped, killed and driven off the land. Shut the fuck up.


As for why the Soviet Union supported Israel, the actual reason was because Stalin and Lenin had the tendency to be very compromising towards identity based oppression that are secondary, with nationality being a main example in the Soviet Union. Jews have been oppressed so sympathy was justified but the erection of a settler-colonial ethnostate is by no means an acceptable solution for leftists. The additional problem however is that orthodox Marxism believes colonialism not to be inherently bad and also as possibly progressive, while Marxists of today know better from numerous intellectuals that wrote and published about colonialism in the second half of the 20th century.


A careful reading reveals that the other anon (not me) wasn't denying that early Israel was genocidal, but was merely saying that it wasn't quite as genocidal as contemporary Israel. Yes it was always a genocidal settler-colonial project but the fanatical devotion to this project has increased over time, as evidenced by the increase in the scale of killing. They went from simply pigeonholding Palestinians in Gaza, to depriving Gaza of water/electricity, to bombing Gaza, to invading Gaza, to blockading food from entering gaza, to bombing food aid drops, universities, and hospitals. It has gotten worse over time, no?


I didn‘t say that the other Anon claimed Israel wasn‘t genocidal before. I understood them the first time and am saying it is has been the same level when it comes to their genocidal attitude. You are making a consequentialist argument, which is fine, I was referring to attitude though. I would explain every fluctuation in outcome based on Israel‘s capacity to follow its goal, which may be restrained in one form or the other depending on context.


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made just now


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Why are Communism and Marxism as "ideologies" borderline synonymous? Why is it that Marx's economic analysis of 1800s capitalism is treated as an essential building block for how we overthrow capitalism in the 21st century, as though to dispense with his analysis is to dispense with the end-goal of communism as such?
I feel like I often see a trend of reasoning that runs, simplified, that only Marx's analysis renders the collapse of capitalism from internal contradictions and the arrival of communism historically inevitable. But that seems like pretty weak reasoning: If he's wrong and it's not historically inevitable, why give up on it!? Why not try to work towards it instead of waiting for history to do all the work?
Maybe it's just because I've been a frustrated social engineer all my life, but it doesn't seem in any way intuitive to me that one should abandon the notion of a classless, stateless, and moneyless society just because one also accepts Keynes' view that fiscal policy can mitigate capialist downturns, or rejects the tendency of the rate of profit to fall, or indeed, even if one accepts neoliberal doctorines, any more than one should abandon the notion of flying on the grounds that the theory of gravity says earth will try to pull you down again. Theory only tells you how the world works, it's then on you to deploy it to make the world work the way you want it to. Why is there no major branch of leftist ideology which operates around this seemingly obvious principle?

You might say it's because Marx's analysis is so obvious that everyone who reads it agrees - and maybe that's true - but most self-identified communists don't actually read him beyond the manifesto, so that cannot be the explanation.
You might say "oh you mean Ancoms?" but a lot of Ancoms seem to run with Marx's analysis of capitalism - just not with Marxism-Leninism as an overall ideology.

I'm not saying Marx is wrong, don't waste time arguing he's not wrong. His rightness and wrongness -indeed the rightnes and wrongness of any theory - is irrelevant to this thread.
This thread is about the relative absence of a certain kind of person and analysis. If you want the dilemma clearly: "Why does the marketplace of ideology not have any non-Marxist communists in stock?" If you want the dilemma in pretentious economic terms: Why is "Normative" Marxism ("what we should do") so dependent oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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You can talk SU history with someone else. This thread is more theoretical, abstract.


People here do not grasp the concept of abstraction.


Philosophy is a separate pursuit from communism, and one which the communist has no need of. It is clearly for morons who can't do real science.


Boy meets Girl, egg meet omelette, Jimmy eat world, I forgot the punchline
We didn't start the fire



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51% of young zoomer men 18-29 are single, have zero prospects for home or car ownership, have zero prospects for a stable career, zero prospects for retiring, zero prospects for anything besides abject poverty, and are becoming increasingly violent and politically radicalized towards the right.

Given historical precedent, it appears we're very close to a violent right-wing revolution led by this demographic. What is to be done? How can we turn this around in the left's favor and prevent this upcoming tragedy?

This is not meant to be an incel thread, but rather this is discussing the material conditions of young men in the west who have intentionally been funneled into extremist far-right movements by capital and think-tanks
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"Marxists" using "read Marx" in any possible situation under the sun is no different then the "read the bible" meme.

Maybe this would be a good avenue for memes. Just take "read the bible" memes and change it to Das Kapital.


you must be the first person ever to have this genuinly orginial and unique idea.
be proud of yourself.


Mindless ideas deserve mindless comparisons to other mindless ideas.


> They have a comfortable place in it, they would like to maintain it and are not interested in radical changes such as overturning the entire economic system to implement a new of which they don‘t know will work.
> They don‘t think that they will spontaneously lose their jobs and then also not find one later on. What impacts their outlook is their wealthy income and they will likely keep their livelihood until they retire. From their perspective there is no point for them to revolt.
I swear to god I can only see three types of people unironically holding this stance:
1 rich kids whose parents shit money, who have legitly no contact with the broader masses
2 NEETs who literraly never go ouside or talk to people
3 non-westeners who have gobbled up porky propaganda
Either way, in cases those are people who think the average westener still lives in the golden age of social democracy and still has the spending power to afford all the consumer shit as in the 90's.
The former came under attack almost half a century ago by the likes of Thatcher and Regan, which completely broke anything that could resembke a class collaboration in the west, immiserating millions of people. As for the latter, most of that lifestyle was fueled by debt, and in practice it has completely and utterly vanished in the last 15 years.
There is a growing desperate need of change in the west: it's painfully obvious to the point ypu don't even need to go outside to notice it. Why do you think we're seeing a resurgence of fascists and the like right now? Because the living standards are declining and liberalism is utterly powerless.

> The whole point of the class system is that your position in it defines your ideas. The only petit-bourgeois who take "anti-capitalist" stances (let's charitably call them "communists") are the ones who feel guilty about it.
You keep using that term, a marxist classification, while also rejecting the marxist classification of what is or isn't a proletarian.
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Kapital better serves as reference today due to Marx's usage of language than most people realize. I hope you have read the original German anon. Preferably the copy annotated by Marx himself.


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🗽United States Politics🦅

Absolute State of America Edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the Earth.


State mandated propaganda livestreams:
CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFEegalitarianism
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alternatively: he's lazy and he's falling victim to >>1826012
the correct answer to "reagan" is "fuck reagan", "reagan, as an individual, was a fairly powerless figurehead for wider groups and social forces" sounds a little too close to "reagan wasn't that bad", which is the wrong answer.
(yes i'm still wasting my time on this)


Ironically, now that Fetterman has been reduced to a state where he basically only ever gets out of bed to go support Zionism, there's a good chance the Democratic Party will support his re-election.


JB Pritzker did good in outing Mike Madigan and also standing his ground on things like abortion and climate change initiatives. That said, he's trash on the issue of the Gaza genocide, and during the onset of the C19 pandemic, did not implement protections that even Republican governors did. Could be worse, but he doesn't recuse himself nearly as much as he should for his financial conflict of interests.



Biden claims ‘cannibals’ ate his uncle
<Second Lieutenant Ambrose Finnegan of the US Army Air Forces was declared missing in May 1944, after his light bomber crashed in the sea.

>“He got shot down in an area where there were a lot of cannibals at the time,” Biden told reporters on the campaign trail outside Air Force One in Scranton, Pennsylvania. “They never recovered his body, but the government went back when I went down there and they checked and found some parts of the plane.”

<Several hours later, at a meeting with United Steelworkers union members in Pittsburgh, Biden told the same story.

>“He got shot down in New Guinea and they never found the body because there used to be – there were a lot of cannibals, for real, in that part of New Guinea,” the 81-year-old Democrat said.

<According to the Pentagon’s agency for prisoners of war and missing in action (POW-MIA), Finnegan was never shot down, however. Nor was it on a reconnaissance mission, as Biden claimed.

<The A-20 Havoc light bomber was on a “courier run” from the Los Negros Island when its engines failed at low altitude, per the official account of the incident. The plane dropped into the sea off the north coast of New Guinea and two out of three crew members never made it out of the sinking wreck, which was never found. The one man who survived was rescued by a passing boat.


Biden is such a gigachad here kek. Normalize fabricating family lore out of thin air.


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peterson is such a facebook boomer, lmao


chinese cum party


Sad that South Korea isn't in these graphs


Last week, a Typhoon Mid-Range Capability (MRC) missile system was flown from the US to the northern island of Luzon in the Philippines, which is separated from Taiwan by the 250km-wide Luzon Strait. US Army Pacific said that the “landmark” deployment took place as part of the joint Salaknib 24 exercises with Filipino troops and showcased “the extensive reach and logistical precision” of the American military. Typhoon systems, which were first introduced in 2023, can fire both the Standard Missile 6 (SM-6) and Tomahawk missiles, with the latter having a range of up to 2,500km.




A thread dedicated to the study of wild / cultivated mushrooms. Hallucinogenics included*

Useful links:




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you'd have to be supremely retarded if you can't pick out ceps or chanterelles
what kind of shrooms did you grow? edible or magic ones or both?


I miss 420chan for the reason that I feel it was a lot quicker to identify mushrooms on there than shroomery, even the ones that weren't psilocybin mushrooms. I feel like there were some genuine mycologists on there despite the sea of retards.


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Reposting this great moment in leftypol history from the /ukraine/ thread





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🚨 Live Happenings/Updates 🚨

• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/3/8/israels-war-on-gaza-live-60000-pregnant-women-face-malnutrition-in-gaza

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-march-09-2024/ (trigger warning)

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>Of course many Palestinians won't like that cause they don't like communists. And?
Literally a third of the Palestinian parliament from the 2006 elections is made up of left-wing parties.
If it weren't for Fatah's corruption and incompetence in governance, people wouldn't have voted for Hamas as a protest votes.
Your generalization of an entire population is really simplistic and a form of black and white thinking.


All American middle east "think tanks" are Zionist propaganda centers, and iirc, something like 90% of guests in American news outlets are from these same think tanks when it comes to anything Palestine or middle east.


Nah, they can't hide nuclear capabilities like that.

Any small allegation from some guy who knows a guy who's aunt's cousin heard a random guy who works as a janitor in a kindergarten claim Iran has nukes would be made into an official "intel" that Iran has a million nukes ready to strike Israel reported everywhere.
This is one of those things that the US and Israel would latch on for fear-mongering psyops.


Israel doesn't have enough material to produce a thousand warheads. Max is about 400 really.


>5d chess
U wot? So instead of escalating with Iran, they escalate with Egypt, instead? Sleepy Joe can't just give every single Middle Eastern a sloppy toppy to go along with this, the Palestinian issue is way too fucking toxic.



Leaked Cables Show White House Opposes Palestinian Statehood
Ahead of the United Nations Security Council action to consider the Palestinian Authority’s application to become a full member of the international body, the United States is lobbying nations to reject such membership, hoping to avoid an overt “veto” by Washington. The lobbying effort, revealed in copies of unclassified State Department cables obtained by The Intercept, is at odds with the Biden administration’s pledge to fully support a two-state solution.

Israeli tanks push back into northern Gaza, warplanes hit Rafah
Israeli tanks pushed back into parts of the northern Gaza Strip on Tuesday which they had left weeks ago, while warplanes conducted air strikes on Rafah, the Palestinians' last refuge in the south of the territory, killing and wounding several people, medics and residents said.

Gaza detainees 'urinated on, made to act like animals' by Israeli forces, Unrwa says
The United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees (Unrwa) said it received reports of mass ill treatment of Palestinians taken captive from Gaza by Israeli forces, including detainees being urinated on and made to act like animals, and children being attacked by dogs.

Hezbollah launches missiles and drones at northern Israel
The Israeli military said 14 of its soldiers were wounded in Wednesday’s attack and six were in serious condition. It added that it had “struck the sources of fire”. Later, the Israeli military said its fighter jetsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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The CPUSA and the "Lesser Evil" by Marxist-Leninist Today Editors
Recently the CPUSA published a document Forward Together (now posted at cpusa.org) which was approved by the CPUSA National Committee on January 27 to frame the discussion leading up to the Party’s June 2024 convention in Chicago. The national convention of a Communist Party is important. A convention is the leading body of the Party, and its decisions govern the political direction of the Party in the four years ahead. In recent decades the CPUSA, like many Communist parties, has passed through challenging times. It is striving to recover from the years when a right opportunist leadership wreaked havoc on the Party, threw it into crisis and weakened its influence in the people’s movements. Those movements would be stronger today if there had been a well-functioning, healthy Communist Party providing class struggle perspective and strategic direction. While there are signs that a rectification is in progress, certain ideas from the crisis period still seem to have a stubborn hold. Hence the comments below.

Erdoğan seeks salvation in war
It is clear that the fascist Erdoğan regime is deepening Turkey's deadlock. Since 2015, the AKP has been in a state of continuous attack against the Kurdish people. They wanted to enter the second century of the Republic with the victory of the "One Nation, One State" genocide plan without the Kurds. From this point of view, Turkey as a whole was taken as a field of operation. Erdoğan lost the election on 31 March. On the night of the election, he said that he would evaluate the messages given by the people in the election. But in the same speech he also emphasised that he would "deal a fatal blow to the Kurds". How will a mentality and an administration that aims for death and annihilation against the Kurds draw conclusions from the elections? Obviously, there are no conclusions for them to draw. The mindset is the same. This means that war and attacks will continue, billions of dollars and the lives of thousands of people will be wasted. In this case, there is no possibility for the economy and the legal system to recover.
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Thanks News Anon


maybe consider thanking na by actually reading and commenting on the links


> Leaked Cables Show White House Opposes Palestinian Statehood
>Ahead of the United Nations Security Council action to consider the Palestinian Authority’s application to become a full member of the international body, the United States is lobbying nations to reject such membership, hoping to avoid an overt “veto” by Washington. The lobbying effort, revealed in copies of unclassified State Department cables obtained by The Intercept, is at odds with the Biden administration’s pledge to fully support a two-state solution.

Holy shit, the """rationale""" the US is using gives me the same nauseous when someone lies to my face.
>“It remains the U.S. view that the most expeditious path toward a political horizon for the Palestinian people is in the context of a normalization agreement between Israel and its neighbors,” the cable reads. “We believe this approach can tangibly advance Palestinian goals in a meaningful and enduring way.”
How is literally doing the single one thing for their alleged "support" of a "two-state solution" be somehow an advancement of Palestinian goals?

>“Premature actions at the UNSC, even with the best intentions, will achieve neither statehood nor self-determination for the Palestinian people. Such initiatives will instead endanger normalization efforts and drive the parties further apart, heighten the risk of violence on the ground that could claim innocent lives on both sides, and risk support for the new, reform government announced by President Abbas,” the cable says.

Fuck this shit. Why can't they be honest for once and say they want a de facto Zionist annexation instead of trying to manipulate and fear monger?!

>“It is important that all Security Council members hear at this stage of the process that a number of members have questions that require further study about the Pale
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>(reposting >>40888 )
plus4chan is on RED ALERT!


Excellent! I archived in wayback to make sure it was saved.


Old news, but Nazi imageboard died.
Which in some ways is a shame because the admin was fucking incompetent.


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bienvenidoainternet knockoff made in vichan


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Someone on /siberia/ mentioned Nuclear Change, it looks pretty slow at the moment but it's a new socialist board so that's cool.
It's more focused than the loungy /GET/ and /siberia/, but less edgy and dumb than /leftypol/. Their /praxis/ board is kind of a cool idea and their org thread gives the impression that it's got users who actually do shit IRL instead of roleplaying all day.
The design is sleek as fuck, props.

It's just giving me a test page :(


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ITT discuss one state solution, two state solution, zero state solution, etc. IMO gaddafi was on the right track with the plan for a federal Isratine, the idea for which actually predates the creation of Israel. Here's a sketch of how it might come to pass:
1) Hamas joins PLO
2) International sanctions on Israel
3) Capital flight from Israel, intensified tension between religious/secular Zionists, the settler project begins to crumble and implode
4) Israel forced to negotiate with PLO to end the occupation
5) Settlement building is halted, new elections are held, start of deradicalization campaign targeting fanatic settlers
6) Truth and reconciliation for war crimes
7) The federal state is phased in, refugees return in waves across a sustainable timespan
8) ???
9) Peace in the Middle East :)
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Zionist pedos on suicide watch



>there still exists an israeli proletariat and a palestinian bourgeoisie
Lol. They're all colonialists meaning they're a part of the bourgeoisie
>B-But what about the poor there
Marx and Lenin clearly had shit to say about the lumpenproleteriat. Israel is a state of concentrated bourgeois evil


So are you really Israeli? Are you living there now?


>Real talk, is the main objective of Israel and its western imperialist allies to increase antisemitism around the world as much as possible?
In a sense


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>Listen to sabashit song about the failed siege of Gallipoli where the Turks pushed out the Allied invaders
>song be like: "boohoo there's no victory, no goal, only sadness from westoids who lost their sons"

In comparison songs about the siege of Vienna and the six day war fully glorifies the Poles and zionists and portrait the other side as subhuman filth

Any other shit bands that are blatantly White supremacist and imperialist propagandists?


Music Board.


Never paid much attention to lyrics and shit, the music is boring garbage anyway so I don't listen to em. When it comes to war music, there's no better choice than bolt thrower.


I have no fucking idea how people see Sabaton as 'not political' or some shit, they're obviously rightoid war cultists


>Any other shit bands that are blatantly White supremacist and imperialist propagandists?
as far as the metal scene goes sabaton is more subtle about this considering there have been openly neo nazi bands that make songs about shooting black people and put chimp noises on the track


>Any other shit bands that are blatantly White supremacist and imperialist propagandists?

All of them? Sabashit is hilariously enough the least blatant about it despite the fact that Cliffs of Gallipoli literally never mentions the Ottoman dead even once. The only time the casualty numbers are mentioned is when they are pushing the old "bwahahaha, 200,000 Ottomans died and only 50,000 brave Entente soldiers" bragging (which is basically ignoring that the 50,000 number is only the ANZAC casualties and the actual Allied dead including the Brits and the French greatly exceeded the Ottoman casualties). Meanwhile listen to any song about European vs. European battles and it's also "brave soldiers on both sides".


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PLEASE MAKE A /NSFW/ BOARD TO SEPARATE THE PORN THREADS FROM SIBERIA, IT'S DISGUSTING!!!! it's disgusting specially for people who visit /siberia/ for other threads such as the royal colony(doesn't matter if it's has softcore porn in it, it is ignorable and it is mainly for aesthetical/memey purposes anyways) and also other threads as well.

I feel like the mods have to bleach their eyes everytime they have to moderate siberia and see a goatsee equivalent every nanosecond there. mods, do yourselves a favor if you value your eyes lol.

thanks for listening to my honest REACTION of visiting siberia
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>based furries
>let's all put our fetish pics and vids on the matrix separate but not divorced from the politics and effortposts
>picrel /leftypol/


So what you're asking for is a Safe For Work Off-topic board?



>we need to attract everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why are you faggots so fucking election-brained




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Multipolarism, in its most basic form, posits a world where multiple powers (countries or entities) exist in a state of relative equilibrium, challenging the unipolar hegemony led mainly by the United States post-Cold War. The emergence of China, the reassertion of Russia, the rise of regional powers like India, Brazil, and South Africa, among others, suggest a move towards this multipolar world.

BUT is it rly just Capitalism 2: Electric Boogaloo - Neo-Dengism Edition? To what extent is multipolarism just capitalist nationalism for people not in green on this map? If the whole thrust of socialism is now just "America bad" what becomes of the classical socialist goals of workers control of the means of production, and abolishing class society?

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🇮🇳 • /subcontinental/ - India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Buthan general >>>/leftypol/761253
🇨🇳 • /prc/ - People's Republic of China general >>>/leftypol/211384
🇿🇦 • (u fuckin racists there is no "south africa" or africa general thread), however: >>>/leftypol/1539368 >>>/leftypol/1547942 >>>/leftypol/1575628 >>>/leftypol/1580774 >>>/leftypol/1582853 >>>/leftypol/1585583

On the last episode of Multi-Polar Z: >>>/leftypol/1571995
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I'm so tired of "third-worldist" "anti-imperialist" liberals who never read Lenin constantly bringing him up to back up their stupid ideas. Lenin's support for natlib stemmed from a recognition of its function during a bourgeois revolution. He explicitly was against supporting natlib in areas where the bourgeois revolution is over, which, surprise, extends to the whole world since decades ago.

This thread might be the epitome of leftoid retardation. Absolutely doesn't belong on a communist or even anarchist imageboard.


>areas where the bourgeois revolution is over, which, surprise, extends to the whole world since decades ago


What do you mean? Greater Bahrat is demolishing Mosques to make way for Hindu Monuments as the foundation of its national project. But who criticizes them for this? They are the best buddy of the Americans.


multipolarism isnt possible because in the long run one power or another will come to dominate


>3 glowfags in a row doing this when the thread has been around since 2023-09-07
you're getting desperate, burgers stupidity agency


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Mozart & family:
>Well, I wish you good night, but first,
>Shit in your bed and make it burst.
>Sleep soundly, my love
>Into your mouth your arse you'll shove.

Broader German culture:
>In German folklore, one finds an inordinate number of texts concerned with anality. Scheiße (shit), Dreck (dirt), Mist (manure), Arsch (ass), and other locutions are commonplace. Folksongs, folktales, proverbs, folk speech—all attest to the Germans' longstanding special interest in this area of human activity. I am not claiming that other peoples of the world do not express a healthy concern for this area, but rather that the Germans appear to be preoccupied with such themes. It is thus not so much a matter of difference as it is of degree.

James Joyce:
>At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue come bursting out through your lips and if I gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora’s fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.
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>Trump and Thunder


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>only europeans had toilet humor
dumb thread


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>Paul Boomer.


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>arse full of farts
oh, that's where the line comes from


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so i finished watching the entire series and something made me feel uneasy. starting with episode 6 and going into episode 7 the show takes a very political turn. a turn against capitalism and an actual, intended or not, positive portray of communism. almost directly actually. at least, it takes the blame completely away from communism, portray some of the communist in the show as actually good people fighting against the evils of capitalism. at least those to be heavily hinted at as being communist. which made me very delighted but then it dawned to me, this is a amazon prime production based off a video game from bethesda who is now owned by microsoft. three massive, very capitalist, corporations that have shown time again to be very for profit.

but even if we remove the debate whether or not communist being portrayed as good did happen in the show, the show itself was extremely critical of capitalism and that makes me wonder why these billion dollar corporations that are the epitome of why capitalism is bad, be telling its viewers, the very nature of amazon, bethesda, and microsft, everything they stand for, the people who made the show and games, are bad? why would they want their consumers to hate the very thing that allows these elites, these companies, to exist in the first place?

is it some sort of chess move i don't understand? have we reached a state where capitalism could very well nuke the planet and people won't care so these companies don't care if criticism about them is made? or more wishful thinking, they think this will spare them from the revolution? i don't understand their move here. i don't expect capitalist companies to allow people to hate them.
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i finished bingeing it yesterday
i liked it
it weaved the fallout setting as best as it could into a more motion picture narrative that was entertaining
lots of cool inspiration from westerns, especially with the ghoul character who walton goggins is fucking perfect for


also lmao @ michael rapaport playing the douchey bos knight
this guy really channels himself in his roles


>it weaved the fallout setting as best as it could into a more motion picture narrative that was entertaining
obviously the only thing that can be entertaining is reddit jokes and self-references and not telling an actually good and engaging story


>reddit jokes and self-references
what are examples of these


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Wasteland 3 is set in snowy Colorado


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Alright filmfags, show me what you've got.

&ltS Tier - Timeless
>Tarkovsky: Stalker, Andrei Rublev, Solaris
>Klimov: Come and See
>Bela Tarr: Turin Horse, Werckmeister Harmonies, Satantango (all very demanding)
>Bergman: Persona, Seventh Seal
>Herzog: Aguirre (I love them all but this one stands apart)
>Kubrick: 2001

&ltA Tier - Food for the soul
>Visconti: The Leopard, Rocco and his Brothers
>Fellini: La Dolce Vita, Amarcord
>De Sica: Bicycle Thieves, Umberto D.
>Pontecorvo: Battle of Algiers
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Ooh thought of another surrealist 70s dystopain Sci Fi for you: A Boy And His Dog

Now that one is really top notch. Fallout aped the shit out of that movie.

Lol apparently it's set le current year.


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>Green Book (2018 or whatever)

Surprisingly good. Liked how it didn't feel like a buzzfeed/Guardian Article. Felt it accurately depicted the racism in Vigo's character and also showed how most normal working people lose their prejudices.

>Shutter Island

Pretty cool. Thought the effects looked a bit funky at the beginning but knowing Scorsese that was probably intentional, to give off the implication that the main character was a looney. I'm a bruv so prefer Casino and Goodfellas but thats just personal taste.

>Secret of NIMH

Was supposed to just watch it for fx animation inspiration but its an actually amazing 2D cartoon feature. It's very hard for me to not get emotionally invested in animated films, but it is a gnarly film from start to end. Everyone needs a bit of balance between baby movies and grown up films. Otherwise you either become infantile or some boring doomer


Tags: lolicon, body swap, cuckold, netorare, shotacon, bdsm, gangland, prostitution, anal, double penetration,

Is the new thing going to be Hollywood just making feature length live action hentai movies?generation,

What was the message of the movie? 7 year olds just want to be child prositutes?


Oh yeah, and I guess cuckold porn is the hottest trend in filmmaking right now. Poor things disappointed in that regard not having any BBC cuckoldry.


I wonder if a reason Fight Club, as a film, is so notable is because it describes and demonstrates a fantasy, even if ultimately it is later critical of it. A large portion of the middle of the film is dedicated to glorifying the club as escapism from the boredom and disempowerment (characterised as femininity) of the alien urban capitalist society. This is not just a simple sex scene to spike adrenaline or watching some ripped jerkoff spray a machine gun, this puts you in the middle of a self-gratifying society. A social orgy of sorts, an exciting community that you are placed in the middle of. At least in mainstream film (and that's most of what I've seen), this is extremely rare.

It's very distinct from an action film, and in a very different way from how, say, Jarhead (and Full Metal Jacket) are in their similar personal stories. We don't glimpse into a hell, in this case we glimpse into a fantasy, in a very personal way through the close-ups and fourth-wall narration.
It reminds me of a video game with the immersive violent fantasy, maybe the closest film I know of to one. Would be interested to hear of any other film that manages to parallel this fantasy fulfillment.


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possiamo solo sognare


e poi tutta la stanza si è messa ad applaudire


Ancora rilevante


Almeno quello. Almeno quello.

Più che altro "e poi si svegliò tutto sudato".

Giusto un'ora fa, mi capita di ascoltare su uno dei canali della tivvù di stato tale Milo Infante dire - mentre conduce una trasmissione salace e truculenta su vari episodi sanguinari - che "il diritto di manifestare è garantito dalla costituzione, MAAAAAAA…" e su quel MAAAAAAA sono partite in casa mia imprecazioni, bestemmie e altre espressioni irripetibili.


Infante è in quota lega btw



Surprised that there hasn't been a thread about the halo franchise in all the years of this site being up, so I thought I'd make one so that we can discuss it
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They refuse to just drop their shitty ideas and "lore focused" bullshit
Killing cortana, bringing her back to life just to make her evil and kill her again
The evil cortana shit stayed and gave us a shittier version of cortana as a result
ODSTs are just gone forever
Mendicant and offensive bias bullshit
Rampancy was just forced drama shit
The idea of a crazy rogue a.i was cool in marathon, but in halo it was just stupid


Reach was ok and had peak forge maps.


Not really, the UNSC never recovers and a lot of insurrectionists survived the war and made rival governments, as per Halo 5's item descriptions. But that was something known since Fall of Reach, a lot of rebels were already in deep hiding from the UNSC so they came out of the war pretty good, especially since their piracy of Covenant vessels has given them an edge on reverse-engineered Covenant tech.

If halo 5 wasn't shit it'd be about Chief defecting from the UNSC to those guys and actually being hunted down for it


>If halo 5 wasn't shit it'd be about Chief defecting from the UNSC to those guys and actually being hunted down for it

You have too much faith in 343 lmao


I've been waiting to play Halo 2, 3 and Reach since I was literally a teenager and at the ripe old age of 28 I finally got my hands on MCC and finished everything but ODST.

I love this franchise so much it's crazy. I feel sad that I missed out on it in its heyday due to being poor as shit and it's also sad to see how the franchise is being run into the ground by people who don't care but man I fucking LOVE this shit. It has injected more happiness into my miserable ass life than anything I have done in a long ass time.

I'm currently on my second playthrough of Halo 2 on Heroic. Is multiplayer worth a shot? I've heard there are a lot of hackers and ridiculously skilled players who have been playing since the XBox live days but this shit is no bullshit like crack to me. I just love all the characters and guns and lore and etc. it's all just gr8 shit


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What are iconic and legendary games that defined a generation of gaming, that deserve a place in the gaming pantheon?

List all of them that you know.
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Doom came out before Chrono Trigger. I don't think Chrono Trigger is really that legendary either at least in America. I never heard of Chrono Trigger back in the 90s. Link To The Past was way more legendary.


>Doom came out before Chrono Trigger
Yeah but Chrono Trigger was a SNES game. The gens overlap.
>I don't think Chrono Trigger is really that legendary either at least in America
I included the games based on influence more than anything. The game itself wasn't the mot popular but is widely cited as one of the best of all time and was hugely influential on the medium as a whole.
Too incremental of an entry to include imo. OoT on the other hand pioneered multiple systems that are still used, like lock-on targeting.


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Franchises too lazy to pick a specific game:
Call of Doody.
The Last of Us.
Street Fighter.
Mortal Kombat
Smash Bros
God Of War
Counter Strike
Gran Turismo
Need For Speed
Grand Theft Auto
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I think the problem is that there are genres and consoles and people usually segregate themselves to them so it is hard to say of which two games came out at the same time for PC and Nintendo and Sony and in different genres are more influential or legendary. Obviously first gen Xbox owners would say Halo. But a PC gamer might be like that's knockoff Tribes.


>gen 4: chrono trigger


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Let's talk about boba liberals. That name is so funny to me it sounds just like boba tea. Boba liberals, drinking boba tea, and being stupid ignorant liberals just as they always are.

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Just American liberals with standard American liberal positions have a very acute, hostile foreign policy edge because they tend to weaponize their ethnic identity against "authoritarian" countries of their ethnic origin. But really just China.


I mean it IS a little interesting because it exists because modern US culture FORBIDS sympathetic allegiances to your homeland while at the same time FORCING your race and ethnic background to be a central part of your identity. So you end up with this schizo shit where you are like taking cultural ownership of this eclectic collection of "Asian" foods but only special ones that have already been accepted within US culture (milk tea, hot pot, anything Japanese), but are also ashamed of the "weird" things, and are also regarding people back home as infantile and backward or unsophisticated despite yourself. The super rapid intensification of racial hostility from the "West" (white people) towards China has made these things sharp. During the time this article was written, a lot of AsAm communities were experiencing a purge of sympathetic views towards China (no matter which nationality you were) with these "boba libs" acting as gatekeepers/whips keeping everyone in line.


>value assimilation with white culture over authentic solidarity with one’s ethnic roots
neither position has anything to do with communism, who cares


idiots who write garbage articles and the idiots who read them to feel smart love their political euphemisms for every little thing


< But it is also beyond doubt that the pseudo-Marxist who heaps abuse upon a Marxist of another nation for being an “assimilator” is simply a nationalist philistine.
< No one unobsessed by nationalist prejudices can fail to perceive that this process of assimilation of nations by capitalism means the greatest historical progress, the break down of hidebound national conservatism in the various backwoods…


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I think reading up about these guys should be mandatory because they are a perfect illustration of what not to do. They were without a doubt perhaps the most incompetent and embarrassing armed group that has ever existed. Everyone, White Working class union members, Black Panthers and feminists all made fun of them and thought they were embarrassing retards
All their members hailed from very privileged backgrounds and were university students, Not surprisingly, when they were apprehended, only a handful faced any consequences or retribution from the government. Their grand "revolution" against the United States turned out to be a decade-long spree of meaningless bombings and vandalism. Law enforcement dubbed them the "toilet bombers" due to their penchant for targeting government building bathrooms. The pinnacle of their incompetence was when they accidentally blew up one of their own safe houses. Some of their members managed to evade capture for years(cause no one was actually looking for them), only to be astounded by the lenient punishment they received upon surrendering. cause law enforcement simply didn't deem them worth prosecuting. the majority of them are still alive and continue to enjoy their wealth to this day and are college professors and social activists.
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>its okay for the working class to suffer because theyre DAMN KKKRAKKKAS
no socialist movement reached those people and now theyre becoming fascistic again. their lack of consciousness is not their fault


Another interesting point is that the more educated and "Europeanized" Algerians were the biggest drivers of independence, while the more rural ones were a bit ambivalent and again many had served in the French Military for two three generations at that point, it was something they saw as duty, . They were doing a good job of pacifying inside of Algeria itself, but the issue is that every country around Algeria had just become independent, and all of them hated the French so much that they were letting the FLN set up for cross-border raids, De Gaulle simply couldn't be bothered to keep troops there until the end of time to prevent the inevitable from happening.




they wanted to get in on the ground floor with the new Algerian government that was about to come to power - they used their ties with Fanon to get an in with the FLN leadership


not too different from third worldists today tbh

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