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8th Edition: Failson squad assemble!edition.

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Coming 2024 Elections, open orgs, People that should be dead for different reasons running in Malaysia's elections or just random shit. There are still dozens of us… hopefully! South Asia and Oceania posters can come in to discuss their regional politics as well.

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>still a reformist kruschevite nation
Imagine being this much of a salty purist about a nation you do not even live in in a region you do not even live in.
Why on earth does the CPV make you so but-mad? Have you considered having a nap?


Are you retarded?
She got chopped into hamburgers anon. Stop being horny.
Way too many ex military families. They all took part in atrocities against leftists and all have enough weapons to carry out murders, predominatly all mass shooters are ex cops or military. Same reason Croatia just had a mass shooting.
>anti communist thai comic made by the cia


Down with your cumbrian.


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>Dung smiling like a smug retard in Trong’s funeral
He got his man into the troika. Fucking bastard.


ASEAN cucks the burger menace.


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>be me, a MAGAtard
>think every left-wing stuff is bad
>I want to help poor people, but I don't support free healthcare
>I want to bring back the factories, but I don't want to control them
>gun rights, but I reject the collective ownership of it
>I think that liberalism is the synonyme of the left
>the nazis was left-wing, but I suport them
>I support free market, but I hate a specific group of it (jews)
>I'm nationalist in a country that it never had a greater form or era
>I think that low wages is communism
>I hate the elite, but I'll vote for a rich old guy


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🗽United States Politics🦅

Absolute State of America Edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the Earth.


State mandated propaganda livestreams:
CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFEegalitarianism
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Leftists told me water is good for my health and that made me a supporter of the zionist project


>Upholdong fascism and reactionary non-secular, ethnocentrist, patriarchal values is cool as long as you respect my indigenous fascism wokely
>yes totally ignore we are using the exact same rethoric as fascists down to the vague socialistish aura without actually much socialist elements maybe beyond socialdemocracy corporativist welfare states just like the fascist ones.
>i mean yes totally ignore we support reactionary indigenist notions, that we seek racial groups to scapegoat issues transversally to class, that we call put injustice within but not inherent to the capitalist system by pointing it on a racial factor, that we endorse patriarchal and nationalist notions as long as they are vaguely opposed to the ghost of the british empire and that we are actually uqite literally paraphrasing hitler even doing funny hand gestures to show our eternal struggle
>no ashktually, this is not vibrating with fascism at all


Beware to not burn all that straw sis. I didnt complained about le leftists


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> Starts conversation with schizo greentext criticizing some person that only exists in your yakubia brainpan

> ur doing le strawman I am le ebic logic and debate

Every Yakubian accusation is an admission of guilt.


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People who think capitalism is "human nature" often don't even understand what capitalism is. They think it is simply trade. They follow the barter myth of the early political economists like Adam Smith, who asserted that early cultures spent all day running back and further, looking for a double coincidence of wants, and then they project the present mode of production backwards through history, looking at the history of trade itself as the history of capitalism. What confuses them even further is the fact that capital predates capitalism, in the forms identified by Marx: Merchant's capital and usurer's capital. They think "how can capital predate capitalism?" and they assume this is some kind of Communist sleight of hand to make capitalism seem "unnatural" (which, again, capitalism is simply trade in their eyes, and trade is natural, therefore so is capitalism). It is as if one assumed that the history of mail was the history of writing, even though mail predates writing in precisely the same way that capital predates capitalism. Intermediaries carried symbolic communicative media such as symbols, signs, seals, from one person to another long before writing was properly writing.
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marx also believed in the barter myth, but this was due to his dialectics in the assortment of universal equivalence as the *particular* which comes to represent the *universal* (by contradiction). I would say this can hold true today in a nominal sense for paper money, but it also requires a chartalist revision where the state becomes the sole producer of the value-form, where without this we enter into gift economies (like here on this site where we freely offer information).


amusingly barter was central to how comecon functioned


The double coincidence of wants is part of smith's barter myth, where money comes to mediate between non-equivalent goods.
Chartalism is the idea that the state is the principle producer of money; where in MMT for example, it is understood that the state is the sole issuer of money (by having a central bank) which then allows it to collect this back without it being theft. The state owns the money it makes, we just borrow it, and in doing this we also become slaves to it. In graeber's book he speaks of colonists taking over an island (i forgot which) and one of the first things they do is start giving people money, so that it gets taxed back to them and thus keeps people poor (where all modes of exchange are mediated by money, and where some have more than others). Thus, all economies are de facto planned (where in the most basic sense, the state could just take all your assets, like they did with russians in the west at the beginning of this war. Also the bank of england refused to return venezuala's gold which were stored in their vaults years ago.) Here, political ideals meet Power. There is no law except this.
Graeber's book makes the point that debt is simply the web of all societies and that we can only find ways of managing it, and by occasionally forgiving it (which is michael hudson's great contribution). Debt is originally monetised as IOUs which can be shared around (like how favours are shared). This can become de facto money, where graeber wonderfully sums up money as debt itself, where a dollar represents its own absence as the commodity it represents (this point is equally made by marx). Money as debt is also a good way of thinking about taxes (to bring it back around). Why do we pay taxes? Because it isnt our money.


Marx did not believe in the barter myth, because the barter myth was particular to the individual. Marx said that primtive societies only engaged in barter at their borders and outskirts. i.e. barter was for parties who did not trust each other. Otherwise there was collective tribal ownership. Read Capital Volume 1


The disgression of the universal equivalent is the ideology of the barter myth where the best choice for money is organically codefied in the qualities of the precious metals. As marx says, "Gold and silver are not by nature money, but money consists by its nature of gold and silver". This applies logic to the self-movement of gold, where in reality, gold only becomes money where the state makes it so. Commodity-money as UE is his dialectical concept, where even today, paper money has abolished this concept.
>barter myth is individual
Theoretically, but not actually.


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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
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>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
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this is what I was getting at. being a meanie isnt the essence of fascism.


Nothing more lib than believing sexuality is fluid


she's right. she doesn't need to provide specific directions either. as if vooting for someone for some vague endgoal and then simply rotting isnt equally vague


plapjak is a natural evolution of the incel community getting older. the shame of late age virginity becomes too much, which results in them dropping their standards and ends up with them fucking fat hoes.


It's the opposite.
All fascist, theocraties and communist regimes believed you can and therefore have the duty to choose to be heterosexual and perform it well for the health of the volk. While liberal science was about how it's part of natural human biodiversity to be gay and some people are just born like this.


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Remember!!: Take your meds!

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine
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Prove your claim; >>1932475 or stfu you underage faggot.


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>This statue was already communized years ago. There were no hammers, sickles, or any other symbols on it. The monument was meant to commemorate the victory over Hitler, not to glorify communism. I guess some people still don't like that Hitler lost.


The butthurt


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I don't understand what this pic is about. Can you clarify?


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Time and time again i find myself arguing with brick walls. People who get too into semantics when i try to present something new, people who tell me it's impossible, people who tell me to be pessimistic. Well guess what? i'm a Utopian Marxist. I consider myself a materialist too, but you dull beady-eyed wannabe-bureaucrats ruin it for everybody. I don't want to say it's a behavioral pattern that is exclusively for MLs, but they always seem the most affected by Capitalist Realism. These are revisionists, they don't believe in cybernetic economic planning, they don't believe in left agorism, they don't believe in conscription-stratocracy, they don't believe in really anything positive or Utopian at all. When they talk about socialism, they talk about an abstract concept that is unattainable, and unattainable ideal. This is a cucked form of Marxism, an Ascetic Marxism. In other words, it is a Marxism of spiritual Austerity. A perverse, bourgeois Marxism designed to instill pessimism in the proletarian masses. These are CIA-aligned bad-faith agents and i believe a purge is in order. Not only a purge of people like this, but also a purge of the Liberal atmosphere that has overtaken this decaying website. Ideological dead weight is all most of you uninspired cretins really are.
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Americans dont need to organize on a class conscious basis. They just need to organize on a regional separatist basis andany class consciousness will just be a cherry on top. Americans should be building their own lifeboats in the form of viable regional economies for when the national government declares bankruptcy.


Remember that criticizing is easy, actually doing something is not. Two additional notes I have: In that case why not call it illegalism? It is an established tradition or a connection to the "mainstream" or current of anarchism, which is itself an "established tradition". That's how I see it, anyway.
Outcompeting a different system is not a question of how rationally the system is organized. In a real sense you cannot become richer and more prosperous than the competition, if that competition is richer and more prosperous in the first place, by thought alone. The communist world, with the Soviet Union at the helm, could not outcompete the US and the rest of the capitalist world, even if they organized under a superior, more rational system. To my understanding, this was simply a consequence of the power differential that was already in place, at the start of the cold war (and before).


>Well guess what? i'm a Utopian Marxist.


most americans have family scattered all over the country. telling people that their uncle in minessota is now part of a rival nation and you have to get a passport and go through border security to see him is NOT a winning message


shay sure writes a lot for someone who won't read. the baffling misuse of terms with an existing definition results in confusion and poor engagement with her ideas.


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I used to believe in the vanguard party governing the dictatorship of the proletariat, but now I'm not so sure that it's necessary.
I can still see it being necessary as basically a school of communism that exists in proletarian organizations, but I'm less and less sure that it really needs to rule/lead the revolution the more I read and think about it.
What do you think?
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sure. it's just that so many anons think that coops are the end of it, and don't stop to what will happen when say two of them operate in the same sector


Is just a term that people think gives them some kind of authority when they larp as a Puritan householder. Go back

There aren't that many people here who do respect Ehrenreich's definition of the term, that is true. Imageboards are places for people to pretend to be retarded, after all, and people who fancy themselves some kind of "leader" figure or part of some inside "team" don't much like being held to scrutiny.

It's notable that the traditional PMC ethic values intellectual autonomy and public service, the intersection between which all but invites abuse.

Maybe there's more than one labor aristocracy, with objective antagonisms between them that may have strategic import in the here and now?
>Stop theorizing things
No, and that's why


No. Wanna-be bureucrats should be eliminated.


it's not that co ops are the end of it, it's that competition is a problem that solves itself through "winners" getting selected and the market getting sublated by monopoly. If we had an economy full of centrally planned worker owned monopolies we would essentially have socialism


this implies the existence of more than one monopoly. there can only be one


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Why are most people scared of communism when It would benefict everybody but the 0.1% of mankind? Are we doing something wrong?
<inb4 burgeois propaganda
Lazy answer
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go ahead with dogmaticly repeating the same old ideas from 100 years ago if you want so badly, see how far it gets you


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Exclude the Russians
Reach an agreement with Putin to mass deport all ethnic Russians. He can use them as fodder to reclaim Ukraine and maybe we get some money out of it. All the meanwhile my bitch ex is gone and drafted to die in an icy trench somewhere. If nothing else the racism against Russians meanwhile increases ten fold and people spit at her. I don't care. I'm not Russian.

But seeing as she is Russian, just in spite, keep sending weapons to Ukraine as well. We don't owe Russia anything outside of business deals.

Slava neo-Gorbachevism


>Nationalists like hiding behind the red banner and alienate everybody for not being a spicy flavoured chinlet.
>Thats it.
There seems to be a lot of communists on the internet who view Nazis as recruiting from the same pool of people as the communists want to recruit from, and then that influences how they talk and present themselves. I think this contributes to the view among normies that communists and Nazis are similar, or have more in common with each other than they do liberals.


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I've spoken to both. I'll be honest with you, they are fairly different but not in the ways either would want to admit
>Nazis appeal to Karens. I'm talking full on entitled spit on cashiers and middle class suburban trash whose entire identity revolves around being white and productive. They don't want socialism at all, they want liberalism to work again and they think it stopped working. Like a car that needs repairing. They'll gaslight themselves into thinking sometimes they're third position and that every nation should have it's own fascistic enterprise. When in reality it's all cope, seethe, and dilating. Literally as there's many trans groypers. The right doesn't infight as much as the left because blaming blacks and Jews is so much easier than blaming systemic problems and trying to juggle equality and sovereignty.

>Communism is actually popular among incels. Not because of the hand maidens tale stuff. Though that's certainly a sector. It's because most of them are huge fucking autists. For them it was never a matter of simply repairing a broken car, they feel like society wants to run their ass over, and they kinda do. As such, leftism appeals to the dregs of society who work shit jobs, who never had anything and wouldn't even know how to desire more. Ironically this too appeals to the LGBTQ who have experienced bigotry but in a much more noticable way than groypers.

>Thus the only similarity is both fucking hate the situation they find themselves in. But where as one wants to punch up their employer, the billionaires, their ex, the government, the other wants to punch down of the drug addicts, the minorities, the woke.

>I just wanna punch moderators. I mean sometimes women too but I see men saying dumb shit as well. All owe me money. Gimme gimme. Bernie Sanders.



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> Dzungarstan

The Mongol tribe the Uyghurs teamed up with the Qing dynasty to genocide? Mutually exclusive with Uyghur seperatist shit lmfao. Also how are you going to add -stan to the name of this ethnostae which only exists in the minds of CIA agents when it was a bunch of turkics that genocided them.



You're lost shlomo


meds, now


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This site needs an I2P address (eepsite)

It already has a .onion, now we need a .i2p

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eepsites can be dos'd?


yeah i need 2 pee


We already have enough cancer as is and too little manpower as is.



surprisingly, yeah they can


First I'm hearing about this. I've had a forum up on I2P and listed for a year with no problems, same with Ieftychan. And those are pretty obviously left-wing from their registered address alone.
Got any links to info? I'm pretty new to all this so I wouldn't know where to look (clearnet is just giving me resume`s of people named Kelvin Chan)



Hactivist and cyber security researcher finds exposed servers containing the No Fly list


Also why do so many facilities with sensitive documents seem to never configure their shit properly? Why do they keep getting trusted with said documents? Especially schools and hospitals.
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>Well at least you realize hacktivism is even more useless than IRL activism
Hacktivism is useless, yes… for class struggle. It is useful for self-liberation and insurrections which are anarchist praxes but I assume you think anarchist theory is crap so we have nothing to discuss here.

I'd argue that activism is the most useless since it achieves absolutely nothing.


>it's obvious [absurd assertion]
Not an arguement, It's how it's used in practice ba dum tish
>Phil undergrad post
Wasn't even philosophical.
>nothing to do with the class struggle
You haven't explained your premise, yet you just keep repeating it.
Making forcibly disclosed information that was strategically classified by an opponent is advantageous in any conflict, especially class struggle. The fact that it's not one unique to it is irrelevant, the current case being discussed–the recent hacks on The Heritage Foundation, NATO and Israel are very relevant to class struggle.


>It's how it's used in practice ba dum tish
I usually seperate what people call "activism" and praxis. I have no use for the word "activism" otherwise, I can just say "praxis" or "direct action," the words that are actually used by politically active people instead of journos who call them "extremists."
>Making forcibly disclosed information that was strategically classified by an opponent is advantageous in any conflict
Good point.


<Red Guard comrades of Tsinghua University Middle School:

>I have received both the big-character posters which you sent on 28 July as well as the letter which you sent to me, asking for an answer. The two big-character posters which you wrote on 24 June and 4 July express your anger at, and denunciation of, all landlords, bourgeois, imperialists, revisionists, and their running dogs who exploit and oppress the workers, peasants, revolutionary intellectuals and revolutionary parties and groupings. You say it is right to rebel against reactionaries; I enthusiastically support you. I also give enthusiastic support to the big-character poster of the Red Flag Combat Group of Peking University Middle School which said that it is right to rebel against the reactionaries; and to the very good revolutionary speech given by comrade P’eng Hsiao-meng representing their Red Flag Combat Group at the big meeting attended by all the teachers, students, administration and workers of Peking University on 25 July. Here I want to say that I myself as well as my revolutionary comrades-in-arms all take the same attitude. No matter where they are, in Peking or anywhere in China, I will give enthusiastic support to all who take an attitude similar to yours in the Cultural Revolution movement. Another thing, while supporting you, at the same time we ask you to pay attention to uniting with all who can be united with. As for those who have committed serious mistakes, after their mistakes have been pointed out you should offer them a way out of their difficulties by giving them work to do, and enabling them to correct their mistakes and become new men. Marx said: the proletariat must emancipate not only itself but all mankind. If it cannot emancipate all mankind, then the proletariat itself will not be able to achieve final emancipation. Will comrades please pay attention to this truth too.



And good point as well. I almost never use the term unless someone else brings it up. It's grammatically weird for what it's trying to convey, and words like praxis and direct action are easier to work with.



Technically, it is counted as graphical art and has created some innovative hits, as demonstrated by this content from the Russian TikToker and Youtube maker DFB.
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One question I always had since watching this episode of JoJo is: why feed excrements to a pig? Isn't that animal abuse? Is this a legit thing in some countries?


It's how the anarchists are going to have to deal with their cesspits unless they grow a lot of rice or other grains for the bran. Rice bran is best.

If they don't do at least one of the above, if I'm around I'm chopping down forests to make sawdust, otherwise they're all going to die of the runs.

Furthermore. Stalin did nothing wrong.


>Furthermore. Stalin did nothing wrong.
You didn't have to LARP that hard to answer a question about using pigs as toilets.


I'm simply correct.
Stalin did nothing wrong.

So pigs, bran or sawdust?


Bram. I don't think we should breed pigs just to feed them shit. The point of the excrements is that they are remnants of the food humans couldn't digest. Are pigs actually able to digest shit? 'Cause otherwise this doesn't actually solve the problem.


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>China's space program and NASA are collaborating with the moon samples
No they don't. NASA is begging them for moon samples despite banning them from cooperation previously. Hopefully they get told to kick rocks.


afair much of NASA didn't want to it was a forced move from the presidency, so maybe there will be a route back to collaboration sooner-or-later.
I hope not though because NASA only exist to facilitate USAsian dominance.


its kyyyover


bible thumping burgers say this while rowing their shopping cart down a river of trash under a collapsed bridge


How are the chinese reacting to Zion Hitler getting a standing ovation in Burgerland



What would you consider the major achievements of communists for the proletariat so far?
I'm using this for agitprop so please try and prefer achievements which a liberal would acknowledge were achieved, by communists. Bonuses for things a communist government did first and Western governments later conceded, like the 8-hour day*, free access to abortion.

Doesn't have to be done by a government, but try to avoid blindly claiming that the whole labour movement were communists.
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My great-grandparents were rock-farming peasants in the Caucasus. My grandparents were university-educated engineers who traveled all over the USSR.
One of the greatest capitalist copes is "vertical mobility" but it turns out that vertical mobility is way better when education is free and there is no "job market"


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>look at the proletariat
>? ? ?
yep agitprop is useless


no contradiction. words mean things.


Didn't even think of that one. (not a burger)


Didn't even think of that one. (not a burger)


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who is best girl
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yeah pretty much but unnecessary h8 for freud sisters ig


>longwinded way of saying "N-no U"
Concession accepted. Stay mad.


misato is still a slut.


Okay incel


A slut is the source of the most treasurable resource known to man: sex. That means we should thank sluts for blessing us with sex we otherwise would not have. And if you can't have sex with sluts you probably wouldn't have sex with them even if they weren't sluts anyway.



EU is eliminating NGI grants which fund the development of many open source projects. You can browse some of the projects here: https://nlnet.nl/project/index.html
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you can certainly read Weber and find him interesting, but his conception of class is still fundamentally anti-Marxian


Guess don't contribute is referring to Poettering etc. A bunch of Kibbutz would be nice, but that's not what free software makes. It's closer to a free digital publisher, and being digital thusly is lacking true community.


>you can certainly read Weber and find him interesting, but his conception of class is still fundamentally anti-Marxian
Well, sure. That's why Marxists-Weberists don't use it.


>true community
1. Communism is not "community," it's an economic system.
2. Sufficiently organized libre software developers are no less of a community than your average workplace.
3. The social aspect of communism is overemphasized, communism doesn't have to have a strong emphasis on fraternity to be communist, both egoist communism and anarcho-primitivism are a thing.


>>26215 (me)
Communism is common ownership of the means of production (libre software fulfills this definition). If it was just communitarianism then I wouldn't support it. No more than I would fascism, I don't want a community imposed on me from the outside, sometimes (many times in fact) I just want to do things by myself.



Are you only a leftist because you don't believe in biological determinism?
is there a left that believes in it?
because I don't believe that the left should stop existing in case it's true. I believe that the left, at a philosophical level is about freedom from all limitations. freedom from oppression (even if it's "natural"),

my question is: would your rebellious spirit die in face of biological determinism? what is "leftism" to you? where is your limit?
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>all this middle class feelgood shit about vague arbitrary values
lol and then leftoids get mad when you call them leftoids and distance communism from their retardation

have you read engels essay on vulgar materialism? while philosophy is a blight on communism and marxism science-ism isnt much better either


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>freedom from


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See, trash like OP is what happens when you go beyond the confines of communism. I just want to abolish wage labor and classes, not this abstract shit.


>Can you be a leftist
No, 'leftism' is not a real concept.


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Well I'm a socialist, I don't particularly believe in freedom much less freedom from all limitations, sounds like suicide to me, which is what a lot of people associate with the "left" when in reality it's just a meaningless buzzword used to describe an ever shifting set of ideas.
Something something Marx said this.
Now I say that because I believe in biological predisposition and species based predisposition to tribalism and discrimination.
Determinism is a hard word, nothing is ever exactly set in stone, you can outrun your genetics, you can work hard, you can be a good person if you don't let your shit family bug you, or you can succumb and become a capo by 24.
Now the fact is that it isn't just you or your family.
If you do get ahead in life and pull yourself up, your genetics will still limit you.
I learned this the hard way when I maxxed out my body but my face was still lacking, not even eating tough foods saved me, and as such all that hard work in the face of adversity was spat on by the general populace.
Its sort of like how you can work hard in 1950s America but you're doomed to never make it if you're black in a white only area.
Or more accurately, trying to reach the level of wealth of the top in one generation of which you just cannot do.
I think humans have a very constraining funnel of what they are allowed to do, but can also have a degree of freedom to free themselves of these shackles.
Though ironically enough it is for this reason I don't believe in freedom. What a funny word.
Freedom to what? Oppress the working class, self defense against raiding revolutionaries?
No, I don't believe in freedom, I believe in winning.
That I will do and force everyone else into it if I must.
Anyhorse, that sounds like a bunch of post modernist anarchism to me, but enough of that, the only constant praxis is whether or not the strength of my class is more than the other. Whether or not my biological determinism will snuff out the rage in me is the only biological determinism that matters and if so, we must genetically engineer and interject ourselves with golden machinery to rectify this error before the others do.



I watched this video recently, and have been fascinated by the concept of "the peripheral web" (in contrast to "core web") and want to find more stuff out there. So how about a thread where we share neat stuff we find on the peripheral web?

First thing that comes to mind for me that isn't a blog or meta on this topic feel free to share either tho, just wanted to start the thread on a cool note is https://firstpersontetris.com/

Also relevant >>/tech/23548
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As an experiment, I am going to (at least try to) exclusively coom to art made by artists who have posted those works to their personal website.

If even core web sites can fall off due to lack of / difficulty to access NSFW content–Tumblr, for example–then that could be that's a factor in why people gravitate to the core, and one that seems immediately addressable if you can get people to make the habit of making pages linking to them.

Sites I've found so far:


Deep Dark Webtasy

Already down. I doubt posting on /leftypol/ would hug of death it, so probably gone for good out of disinterest. If you like something archive it. HDD (or LTO for longer term preservation) are cheap in terms of storage space.


Oh oops, https://vanh.art/
n and h look too similar on the default font my browser is using. I need to set it back to comic mono or something.


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You can learn about creatures


>peripheral web
As in "normal web" when you're not a social media addict? Got it.


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is it anime even though it doesn't have the regular art style? if yes can we discuss it?

if no tell the mods to abort this post
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>with a mildly unreliable narrator (MC killing small armies)
That's not what an unreliable narrator is. The protagonist killing like a hundred people isn't anything unusual for an action show.


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> pic
There's a Lovecraft anime though.


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>There's a Lovecraft anime tho
This better be ironic.


This is art.


loved this shit, especially the theme songs


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Seeing how there’s multiple /co/ related threads on the board. I think we should just put all of them into one general just for clarity’s sake.

Discuss anything related to comics and animations from comic recs, leftist animations to comic writers’ attempts to larp as leftists.

Seriously is there a worse anarchist in the UK than Alan Moore?
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I mean there right


I kinda wish Crossed would get another entry. It's kinda one note but sometimes I just want to read some terrible fucked up shit. Alan Moore's entry in it wasn't bad though.


never heard of it


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I love this mind-numbingly retarded move to stop piracy, lol.


surprised it was so good when every other disney+marvel thing has sucked ass so badly


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I recently discovered that i like techno music but between all the different genres im kinda lost rn
So post your favorite techno music and tell me which genre it is (maybe a short definition of the genre if you would be so kind)
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Damn that movie ruled


a fellow aphex enjoyer I see


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The original archive went down, but there is a mirror at https://archive.lolicore.net/
It really has a great deal of doujin music, like a lot of 2000s makina inspired j-core, freeform trance-core and remixes of entire key sounds albums.


a remix of an old music from the romanian folklore


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First thread I've ever made here. I'm really interested in graphic design and I make shitty flags all the time. Therefore: Post your flags, your logos, your posters, your whatever. Or you can post cool shit you found - point is, post some based shit.

>Lefty shit is best, but if you think it's cool, post.
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Tengrist larp flag. I don't like anything about it except the aesthetic. Eco "retvrn" cults have a very interesting aesthetic. Perfect for larping.


Ted Khan


>can you guys made a flag for BleachBolGang ?
Just for kicks I might try it. What are you looking for exactly? Queen of Hearts symbol or what?


/siberia/ needs a flag and logo with communist and anarchist symbols or something representing siberia with huskies or natural landscape.


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/siberia/ also should have a colonial flag & coat of arms / shield with grace chan's flag & logo on it.
(there's a thread in /siberia/ on this topic)


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Is it possible for this type of game to have a good playerbase? The concept is amazing but it has possibly the worst online community I’ve seen in a game. I just want a comfy co-op space outpost autism simulator without dealing with uncreative griefers or admin abuse.

Goonstation was the closest thing to this back I the glory days
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so the same as SS13 then?

Every time I tried to play it, nobody was doing anything related to their role and just running around murdering each other, IMO it would be a lot more fun to actually play seriously unless you have one of the sabotage roles, but that's just me I guess


One of the rules on my server is you have to do your job.
If you want to go exploring and digging in maintence we have roles for you.
If you want to be in your department and being a good little worker bee, we have roles for you.

I also do not like when half the staff has fucked off to do non job related activities,


what servers did you play? this was not my experience at all

this sounds like a snorefest. I don't even work that much at my real life job
like, where do you expect the round to happen if everyone stays in their jobby-box?


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idk it was years ago.

I guess there should be some flexibility, but like, if you just want to run around spamming and killing people that's just toxic and boring IMO. The jobs in SS13, from what I remember, are complicated and nuanced enough that you can easily spend time doing them without getting that bored. But I only played years ago like I said.

That sounds cool but isn't it kind of against 'ancap open carry experience'?

Also, what's wrong with furries anyways.


I'm saying there are roles for both people who enjoy their job and we have roles for people who enjoy fucking off to dig through the trash or explore.


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With less votes than Corbyn in 2019 ("the worst defeat since 1935"), a lower share of the vote than Blair in 2005 or Cameron in 2010 (33%), and cratering voter Turnout (59.9%, down from 67% in 2019), Starmer's won his big majority. Predictions of a Canada 1993 style Tory wipeout were premature: The seats are 1997, the enthusiasm is where we'd be if Blair was still leader in 2008.
Corbyn kept his seat by a huge margin (nearly 50% of the vote), several pro-Palestine independents were elected, as well as 4 Greens. Wes Streeting came within 500 votes of losing his seat to an independent, so the NHS is doomed, but the unemployed will be glad to know that Jonathan Ashworth is on the dole queue, as is Thangam Debbonaire.
George Galloway lost Rochdale, and is no longer an MP. The endorsement of a children's author and opportunist culture-war dogwhistling wasn't enough to help the CPB, who got a dismal 2,622 votes nationwide - less than half the 5,814 of the Monster Raving Loony Party.
A bunch of Tories lost their seats, including Liz Truss. Deselecting Faiza Shaheen lead to Labour's failure to unseat Ian Duncan Smith. Nigel Farage and Richard Tice won their seats, as did 3 other ReformUK candidates. The Lib Dems are on their best result since the days of Lloyd George, despite their vote share remaining basically static.
For viewers in Scotland the SNP were wiped out, resurrecting the zombie careers of horrors like Blair McDougall and Douglas Alexander.

Zionist horrorshow Luke Akehurst won his seat, alongside scores of commercial lobbyists and other crooks. Your Tory government is dead - long live your changed Labour government. Remember: STABILITY IS CHANGE.
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i really hate to repeat myself because it makes it come off like im an ass who isnt reading what you say, but the sort of increminatal difference you are spouting to be a better alternative than the party structure really doesnt do shit in the long run, and almost all forms of notable successes globablly in class struggle havent come from it (be it anarchist, ml, trot, mao whatver)


the point of the incremental changes is not to do them for their own sake, but to build organizing capacity that can later be turned to more difficult tasks. most of what i suggest isn't a party structure at all. no form of notable success globally has arisen in a country with a left as structurally weakened as Britain. no party structure has delivered anything in the long run in Britain. looking globally to the CPC or the 40 Communist parties of Nepal is cope to hide from the total lack of left progress in Britain. you can try to build a house on sand by having a vanguard party with no organised workers to be the vanguard of, or you can do the horrible tedious work of starting out organizing workers in boring local campaigns to make life less shit in a way that might actually happen in your lifetime, possibly with the result that you then have the contacts and credibility to go on to better things.

you don't build communism by bringing weekly bin collection to Sheffield, but if you can't bring weekly bin collection to Sheffield, you definitely can't bring communism. the CPC could do it, the CPN-UML or god knows who could do it. The CPB? The CPGB-ML? Nah.


>the point of the incremental changes is not to do them for their own sake, but to build organizing capacity that can later be turned to more difficult tasks.
how is this different from say a party trying out in a general election to try and put their organisational capacity to the test? i simply dont see how a party structure is not benefical with doing anything you listed, its not like its mutally exclusive, it seems like itd only be enhanced via having extra comrades to assist as i said before


>how is this different from say a party trying out in a general election to try and put their organisational capacity to the test?
elections are rare, hard to win, cost £500 a pop, invite a lot of fun masturbatory activity (like writing a manifesto policy) that people always prefer to hard work canvassing and doorknocking, don't deliver all that much concrete benefit if you do win.
moreover, the skills learned don't generalise too well: the skills used in pushing to get weekly bin collection back can be used again in pushing to keep the local school open. that's not quite true of election canvassing. plus, if the party implodes you lose everything and have to start again - your minor-party MP is fucked at the next election: if the save-our-schools campaign collapses, you still keep weekly bin collection. dust yourself off and start again. there's no centralized single point of power and vulnerability that some would-be Stalin or Trotsky can factionalize until they're the general secretary of the Provisional Committee for the CPGB-ML-M-FC(C)-Reformed, part of the Electoral Alliance for Revolutionary Worker's Socialism, the one true heir to the communist tradition - which of course does nothing, certainly not something so tangible as fixing the bins.

Indulgent metaphors aside: a party structure makes it harder to focus: if the CPGB-ML's weekly bin collection campaign doesn't work, they'll cope by pointing to a beautifully written call to end genocide in Gaza. if the Sheffield Bin Campaign's weekly bin collection campaign doesn't work, there's no ducking and diving to hide from that fact. it has failed.


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What kinda drugs are you guys on over there bongs?



Pro-Palestine protesters block foreign office with 'Genocide Made in Britain' banner
Demonstrators, four rows deep and holding a banner reading "Genocide Made in Britain", sealed off the office's main entrance. At least nine demonstrators were arrested, rotesters told Middle East Eye. The protest, organised by Workers for a Free Palestine, is one of the largest since Labour's victory in the general election, which saw the party lose five seats to pro-Palestinian independent candidates.

Houthis, Yemeni government reach financial 'de-escalation' deal: UN envoy
After striking their latest agreement, the warring parties will convene "meetings to discuss all economic and humanitarian issues based on the (UN) roadmap," said Grundberg's office. It stressed "the need for the parties to collaborate towards an economy that benefits all Yemenis and supports the implementation of a nationwide ceasefire and the resumption of an inclusive political process."

French left lawmakers slam Macron's decision not to appoint a new PM until after the Olympics
President Emmanuel Macron said on Tuesday he will maintain the caretaker government, led by his business-centred coalition, through the Olympics to avoid “disorder.” Mr Macron brushed aside a prime minister nomination by the left-wing New Popular Front (NPF), which won most seats at this month’s National Assembly elections.

Spain’s Supreme Court challenges constitutionality of amnesty for Catalan separatists
The Supreme Court said it believes that the amnesty violates the principle of equality before the law guaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


Thousands rally around Congress to denounce Netanyahu speech
With tensions over Israel’s nine-and-half-month war on Gaza running high, police mounted a huge security operation to seal off the US Capitol from protesters. Streets in Washington’s downtown area were closed to traffic, while officers experienced in dealing with mass protests were drafted in from the New York police department. The Capitol building itself was ring-fenced off. “Shut it down,” a large group of protesters chanted as they marched toward the Capitol after blocking a nearby intersection, adding “Bibi, Bibi, we’re not done!” Capitol police deployed pepper spray at protesters they claimed had crossed the police line.

Six spectators charged for "disrupting" Netanyahu speech
During standing ovations, several of the protesters were displaying "SEAL THE DEAL NOW" t-shirts urging the Israeli prime minister to broker a ceasefire and hostage deal with Hamas.

Disney, unions reach tentative pact, avoiding strike at Disneyland
The new, three-year agreement, which includes wage increases and other benefits for park employees, whom Disney calls "cast members," was signed by an alliance of unions representing custodians, ride operators, merchandise clerks and other workers at the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim, in Southern California.

'Economic and Moral Failing': It's Been 15 Years Since Last Federal Minimum Wage Hike
Twenty U.S. states still have minimum wages pegged to the federal floor, which is worth less today than "at any time since 1949," Axios' EmilyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


Boluarte implicated in mass repression
LAST week, Amnesty International published an 86-page document regarding the series of human rights violations committed by the Peruvian state during the protests that took place between December 2022 and March 2023. During this period, when tens of thousands took to the streets in rage against the coup carried out against president Pedro Castillo, more than 50 people died and thousands were injured. The report alleges that Dina Boluarte, the de facto president of Peru following the coup, as well as other senior state officials, either planned the police and military operations that violated the human rights of thousands of people protesting the coup or deliberately failed to stop the publicly known crimes. For example, in Andahuaylas city in Apurimac, special forces used tactics that repeatedly violated human rights for several months without any order to cease such actions.

Biden abandons the race: can switching horses in midstream stop Trump?
Nothing scares politicians more than losing elections. But the stakes are even higher this time around, as a majority of the ruling class understands that a second Trump term will mean even more instability and the continued undermining of bourgeois institutions. His anti-establishment populism has already stirred up a social hornet’s nest, and the ruling class is desperate to calm things down. After hedging their bets on Biden for the past three years, the Democrats finally had to cut their losses and make a last minute pivot. Also unsurprisingly, Biden endorsed his vice president, Kamala Harris, to succeed him. Bill and Hilary Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries, and other Democratic Party notables followed suit in the hours that followed. Democratic National Committee chairman Jaime Harrison said in a statement after Biden’s announcement that the party would “undertake a transparent and orderly process to move forward as a united Democratic Party with a candidate who can defeat Donald Trump in November.” Reading between the lines, there are deep divisions and doubts around Harris’s candidacy. In the end, however, though she may not be their first choice, they could hardly allow the mess around Biden’s Post too long. Click here to view the full text.




what does the yemen deal mean for the uae backed factions?


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Thanks News Anon


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Why do people, especially third worldists, idolize the indigenous in America? As a guy who lives in Oklahoma, a large amount of us are basically white people that identify as "indigenous" for idpol reasons or just to take advantage of technical tribal benefits, a lot of us are fully white passing. In any sort of ethnic or class struggle in America, most indigenous people would be on the side of white/the bourgeoisie, even actual "True" indigenous who haven't really assimilated that much or haven't had their genetics totally overwritten have a pretty settled in bourgeoisie that benefits off of the current system that allows casinos to exist. This idea of indigenous people who are completely stuck on reservations in utter poverty is a small minority of the indigenous in the US that doesn't make a solid political bloc at all. It's even worse with other indigenous populations, the native hawaiians are all strictly republican
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>Listens to Pink Floyd and Sly and the Family stone once


the only real indigenous left in the continent are peruvians and bolivians


>hey, some of us are black passing


um sweaty you're not allowed to use actual stats we operate on anecdotes and vibes here


um sweaty you're not allowed to use actual stats we operate on anecdotes and vibes here


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Multipolarism, in its most basic form, posits a world where multiple powers (countries or entities) exist in a state of relative equilibrium, challenging the unipolar hegemony led mainly by the United States post-Cold War. The emergence of China, the reassertion of Russia, the rise of regional powers like India, Brazil, and South Africa, among others, suggest a move towards this multipolar world.

BUT is it rly just Capitalism 2: Electric Boogaloo - Neo-Dengism Edition? To what extent is multipolarism just capitalist nationalism for people not in green on this map? If the whole thrust of socialism is now just "America bad" what becomes of the classical socialist goals of workers control of the means of production, and abolishing class society?

🇧🇷 • /brg/ - Brazil general >>>/leftypol/1880511
🇷🇺🇺🇦 • /ukr/ - Russia-Ukraine war general >>>/leftypol/1909563
🇮🇳 • /subcontinental/ - India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Buthan general >>>/leftypol/1828924
🇨🇳 • /prc/ - People's Republic of China general >>>/leftypol/211384
🇿🇦 • /africa/ - Africa general >>>/leftypol/1831758
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hm, maybe US hegemony shouldn't be premised on keeping Latin America and Africa underdeveloped thorugh insidious IMF and World Bank loans or outright military interventions. anyways, it's not like the US could help them develop now even if they wanted to, even that jackoff china hater Micahel Pettis is beginning to understand…


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Dengists bros why do third world socialists hate us?


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leader of the Sandinista Revolution says otherwise


>taking that moronic thread at face value in the first place


Zased Christian Marxism
>no argument


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How's things going up there?

There seems to be a lot of shit going on in Canadian Communism in the last few years, with the rise and fall of the PCR-RCP, then the development of the IMT in Canada, and now the formation of New Communist Party of Canada.


They have a fairly detailed programme, that I would appreciate some people's thoughts on here.
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A nothingburger


>I don't see people here getting to a point where they can actually counter any of this, people are too comfy.

What do you mean by this? I also saw the same thing in the Auspol thread with people saying that the people in Canada are cucked, but nobody could explain what this actually means


No matter how bad things in Canada get, Canadians will always point to the USA as justification for keeping things as they are. If the USA is the most failed state in all recorded history(it is) and Americans aren't overthrowing their rotten government, why should we overthrow our equally shitty regime?(nevermind that doing such things requires that revolutionary orgs don't get COINTELPRO'd to hell and back)


ok well I guess socialism will never happen then


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ACP wants to organize Canada. They see it as within the scope of America


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By Blood alone waiting room edition.


I didn't realise they also reworked the Far-Eastern Collapse.
If Kerensky fucks up the Manchu's still take over the West, Republicans run off to Transamur and Vladivostok and then either become one of two different flavours of authdem, Ukrops spawn in the north, but can either be SocDem or Banderites who are now properly set to reactionary.
Harbin proper gets to keep some of the south now, Its either led by Gastev who calms down his autism a bit and becomes PopSoc

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>steam removed it with incredible speed
Couldn't even find discussion about this. I'm not surprised, but that's extremely blatant. A thousand wehraboo mods unmolested, but not even two weeks after a multipolarista posts it gets memory holed. Is it Paradox or Steam porkies doing workshop moderation?


Both I think.


Not much discussion may be cause everything is in Russian, they have a disc0rd though, I don't have an account but here it is if someone wants to investigate


cant figure out how to install this, i'm dumb, help pls? it says in the instructions about 'african dawn' folder but there isn't one i can see


yeah their instruction are wrong, the african dawn folder is basically the whole zip you get
>download the code as zip from github
>extract the folder to "Users\YourUsername\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV\mod"
>rename the folder "african_dawn" or smth. not needed, just to avoid confusion
>you should have this structure "Users\YourUsername\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV\mod\african_dawn\descriptor.mod"
>copy the descriptor.mod to "Users\YourUsername\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV\mod\"
>I rename it too but again not needed
>edit the "Users\YourUsername\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV\mod\descriptor.mod"
>add this line with the correct path to the folder "path="C:/Users/YourUsername/Documents/Paradox Interactive/Hearts of Iron IV/mod/african_dawn"
>now the mod should appear with the name "AFRICA MAP" (it use the name in the descriptor.mod file)

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