/edu/ - Education

Fuck, wanted to post links for curious anons but I clicked enter by accident.

Zettelkasten intro:
https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/

Good video on tiddlywiki + zettel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNCM_-Hgf3MegoismEgoism

I found this video helpful as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFZHuWLA09MegoismEgoism

>>6832
Zettelkastens are great.

I've posted about my setup before at >>>/tech/6207. I take notes in Emacs's Org Mode, using Org Roam to add zettelkasten functionality. My setup has changed a bit since originally posting since Org Roam has gone through a global redesign, but the core idea is the same: leverage the absurd extensibility of Emacs and Org Mode to achieve a setup that is powerful yet incredibly simply to use.

Org Mode is a very powerful markup language, simpler than markdown yet supports seamless integration with LaTeX functionality such as bibliography management. I would recommend this vid for a brief introduction/overview https://youtube.com/watch?v=SzA2YODtgK4

>>6836
Looks really cool, but I'm already setup with tiddlywiki and I'm not not nerdy (i.e., smart) enough to fuck with emacs tbh.egoismEgoism

I just write notes in org-mode. I used to do these list based outlines but then switched to writing summaries, they are harder to write but I like to believe that it is a "desirable difficulty". Plus they are much easier to read than the stupid lists I used to do.

I don't do zettelkasten because it is too much work. You are not taking notes but building an encyclopedia. You are supposed to extract and isolate every idea in what you are studying and make a self-contained entry for each. That in itself kind of sounds fun but you have to give titles to the entries which is just too hard.

>>6837
> I'm not not nerdy (i.e., smart) enough
You most probably are. Don't get spooked by "intelligence".

>>6838
>I don't do zettelkasten because it is too much work. You are not taking notes but building an encyclopedia. You are supposed to extract and isolate every idea in what you are studying and make a self-contained entry for each. That in itself kind of sounds fun but you have to give titles to the entries which is just too hard.

After doing some more reading on the topic, I'm starting to agree. I don't want to spend all my time micromanaging my thoughts—IMO that seems like missing the forest for the trees in terms of building knowledge. I think I will just write notes in my Tiddlywiki while utilizing the tagging & hyperlinking functionalities to do a pseudo-zettelkasten system.

>>6844
forgot to mention, I am using the TiddlyRoam plugin which is pretty cool. Very useful if you're going to do the whole zettelkasten thing, too.

>>6844
> seems like missing the forest for the trees in terms of building knowledge
I wouldn't say that. It seems to work really well in academic settings, where most of the "input" comes from research papers and textbooks and most of the "output" goes into the same. You will need to know what you want from your notes and organize them appropriately.

bump

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TagSpaces
planning on organizing my pictures with this little babe, i've already tried it out and the free (as in price) version is pretty ok despite the limitations placed on it.

>>6832
if you like text based stuff and can manage to learn vimwiki or emacs orgmode, that's very effective.
There are GPT-2 machine learning plugins that at the moment are very basic and limited to software coding but eventually that will be expanded and generalized, and you'll be able to search your knowledge base with cognitive associations.

I read stuff and my brain remembers it for me and automatically connects it to related information. When something relevant comes up, I remember where I read something about it.

>>9065
Dude that's crazy

>>9065
Is it possible to learn this?

amazonbasics lined notebook

>>9065
>I read stuff and my brain remembers it for me
not everyone has extremley good memory
I have to re-read information at least 2 times after a gap in time to remember them

I wanted to use DokuWiki but the instructions confused me too much kek https://www.dokuwiki.org/install:dokuwiki_on_a_stick

>>6836
That thread is gone, can you post your set up here?

tiddywiki

Bumping the thread with book on smart notes. When this was starting I had used a browser based note system that got laggy and cult like, switched over to obsidian, but lost all my data when I reformatted my hard drive. Never got the urge to go back and re-do all the notes and links and such. I remember some threads on /lit/ about it that subsequently always turned into half the people using emacs or whatever DOS looking system that looked super cool but always seemed overly complicated, like learning both how to use the system and then learn the learning system was too much at once. The other half of the thread would turn into a debate about how chunked the information had to be. I didn't learn about any of this stuff until after graduate school so I feel like I probably missed the boat. But here's a bump for the thread, hopefully to re inspire us all.

>>6844
The appeal for me is the interconnection between concepts, but I think the way I would use the z method would be unorthodox.

I'm not sure how all the different software that implements the z method works but having something that tells you what entries link to the current entry is really useful. It's very close to tagging, but you can go into more detail.

Creating new entries is (read: should be) as easy as [linking it]. So rather than going into a separate area to create a new entry, you just reference whatever topics you want in line. When you go to that topic, you get backlinks.

So I might have several different entries I'd link to. While writing my notes in one entry I might write something like [revolution] to have a page that lists of everything that references revolutions.

>>10395
I strongly suggest something that is self-contained like tiddlywiki if you're trying to do it on a flash drive. Tiddlywiki just needs a browser.

>>12442
The reason I don't like using Emacs or other TUI-esque software is that formatting graphically isn't possible. It's easy to create lists or bold text, but resizing tables or highlighting in various colors gets tedious.

For now I'm using Zotero but will probably switch to something else until I find what I like again.

>>12581
is there any software to your knowledge that would allow someone to do this not on the web ie

im not sure how safe i would feel with it being o nthe web versus being just on my computer. might be irrational but still

>>12589
Tiddlywiki works offline

Okay. I reinstalled Obsidian. Now that I’m a practicing attorney instead of in school the actual method of study is different because it’s about practical skills and processes. I’m trying to think through what kind of basic info I could put into the system so I have something to work off of, and I thought I’d copy over the Code of Criminal Procedure, the Penal Code, the Appellate Rules, and the rules of evidence of my state. Each being one page per section with any references pointing to each other. From there I can then input case law I’ve found and link it to the code. Lexis and West law already do all this, but I can’t afford that shit right now and they locked me out of my account for nonpayment.

The problem is I feel like this may just be useless busy work, most of the codes aren’t applicable every case. Maybe I just plug in bits of the code I come across as I go, but when I normally do research for trial cases it’s fast quick refresher research, not long and complicated. But I do have a few appeals, and that shit is long and complicated and interwoven at a level I struggle with keeping straight.

Id like to write out my thoughts on jurisprudence topics too. And remind myself of all the bits I come across while reading. I just feel a kind of paralysis trying to implement something new I’ll have to go back and fix or that may be so much I just drop it and go back to what I was doing before. I can’t find shit online about lawyers doing personal knowledge management, the ones that do are all posting about it like SEO marketing, not as real information that’s helpful. I want something that helps me become a better and faster lawyer.

Input appreciated, even if you know nothing of the field.

>>12947
Why not just reference it? I don't think it's supposed to have foreign text in it. Maybe quotes but not the whole text.