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What kind of world would we be living in now if John Romero did indeed succeed in making us his collective bitch? What kind of effect would "sucking it down" have had on the course of events in gaming?

>daikatana is the killer shooter instead of halo

>2 weapon max doesn't take hold
>9-11 averted
>high concept boomer shooters displace brownanbloom ww2/cowadoody at the big industry cash cow
>ion storm goes on from its massive successes with deus ex and daikatana to buy up a bunch of other 90s studios
>with design being law origin, westwood, etc aren't cannibalized and destroyed by EA

 

>>34940
I'm glad that boomer shooters died out

 

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halo would still be the killer app because boomer shooters aren't friendly enough to a general audience

 

>>34942
>there's still people acting like they're too good for halo CE in the year of our lord 2024

 

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>>34941
I'm glad they're back in such a big way.

 

>>34942
Didn't you read the OP? Design is law. In this reality Halo was a mediocre rts that became famous only because it was one of 5 good games available on the mac os.

 

What conditions would need to change to make Daikatana a success? John Romero wasn't a good project manager and the game sucks ass, and its success wouldn't have meaningfully changed executive meddling and weak worker bargaining positions across the industry. Plus, it wouldn't change the fact that games like Call of Duty have lower skill floors and ceilings making them way more accessible and enjoyable for the average person playing multiplayer. It's too bad Daikatana's failure caused 9/11, but that's the world we live in.

 

>>34941
>'m glad that boomer shooters died out
Why?
>>34942
>halo would still be the killer app because boomer shooters aren't friendly enough to a general audience
No, Metroid Prime would be the killer app and Samus would become the most popular Nintendo character. We would've had Metroid Prime 4 by this point and Bungie would've continued to make Marathon games.

 

>>34947
idk just don't like em

I mean it's cool that there's a revival now for the people that want to play them but I think the evolution of the FPS was a good thing. Of course you can criticise the COD trend as well which eventually got old but I think those kind of FPSs were a good step forward

 

>>34948
>its good that games are sterilized and dont appeal to niches anymore
k

 

>>34949
How were boomer shooters 'niche'? It was literally one of most popular type of games at one point and the only kind of FPS there was

 

>>34950
they are now, because culture changes. also back then games werent remotely as popular as they are today

 

>>34945
I don't think halo on PC or MAC was ever relevant until the master chief collection

 

I wish quake would make a comeback, it was one of the most purist competitive FPS'

 

>>34956
Let's play Xonotic.

 

>>34948
>Of course you can criticise the COD trend as well which eventually got old but I think those kind of FPSs were a good step forward
1. It is no more of a step forward than Mirror's Edge is a step forward from Mario 64.
2. The only genuine contribution of COD was ADS. But ADS sucks in arcade-y games and ARMA did it first anyway so…

 

>>34957
I live in southern hemisphere so my ping would be wild

 


 

Half Life was already steering the industry towards greater emphasis on realism. Brown era was a historical inevitability.

 

>>34947
>Metroid Prime would be the killer app and Samus would become the most popular Nintendo character.
Multiplayer is what drove Halo. Metroid Prime only had multiplayer in 2 and Nintendo wasn't going to do online, so couldn't replicate Halo 2 and 3 regardless.

 

>>34965
That doesn't necessarily mean that military shooters would look the same as they do now if boomer shooters were popular, they'd probably look closer to Wolfenstein: the New Order and such instead of CoD. And when it comes to story-focused FPSs they'd probably be immersive sims instead like Deus Ex and System Shock.
>>34968
I said "Bungie would've continued to make Marathon games" for a reason.

 

>>34968
In this universe Nintendo would also be different after id convinced them to let them put Mario on the pc, and it's success along with the runaway hit that Mario deathmatch would bring convinces nintendo to invest heavily in online multiplayer.

 

>>34988
Splatoon would have been created earlier.

 

>>34940
Someone didn't play Sigil 2.

>>34956
UT is better, cunt. Eat my flak.

>>34958
>2. The only genuine contribution of COD was ADS. But ADS sucks in arcade-y games and ARMA did it first anyway so…
Hoooly shit, I can't believe someone else finally said this. This this this.


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