No.7541
1st generation, while very flawed games, were still the best games because somehow the sequels took all the bad things and just kept making them worse and worse and worse.
No.7543
>>7541Separating special attack and special defense, biggest mistake.
No.7545
>>7540didn't realize onix stats were that crap
No.7546
>>7543why?
>>7541dual types, and psychic nerf were pretty good things in the first sequel
> but grindingno one cares
No.7547
>>7546>why?Too much nerf.
No.7548
>>7547it was just to nerf mewtwo and the psychic type in general
No.7549
>>7546<excuse me sir this aspect of your game sucks>yes, but who caresYes, we all know people don't play Pokemon for the gameplay.
No.7550
>>7549yea as in your only complaint is they are grind happy games (which they actually have been lessening to the chagrin of old time players), that's not a diss to any of the games meta: typing, monster variety, competition, or even how the leveling is done (ev + slow/fast groups)
Maybe you just don't like RPGs
No.7552
What if I don't like Smogon rules? My favorite ruleset was official doubles (Gen 6) because that's the last generation I played, and nobody on Showdown plays that anymore, wish I could get over my hatred for Gens 7/8 so that I could learn how the new battles and pokemon work
No.7553
>>7550I like plenty of good RPGs, of which Pokemon is not.
>your only complaint isI don't believe I've enumerated any of my complaints so far. But the "competition" aspect of Pokemon has always been an embarrassing joke, filled to the brim with exceptions and restrictions because of how broken the system is. If you want to get into what makes a good RPG we can talk about that. How about the fact that the battle progression has never been very good and the world design and area progression seemingly getting more uninspired with every game these days.
>which they actually have been lessening to the chagrin of old time playersI'll concede this is a good thing if it's true, the horrible time-wasting anti-player grind shit got worse with every game in the early generations. The idea that you have to schedule a specific time out of your busy day for a
leisure activity in order to catch some Pokemon at the right time of day is just monstrous. That's a game controlling you, not you controlling a game.
No.7556
>>7553>The idea that you have to schedule a specific time out of your busy day for a leisure activity in order to catch some Pokemon at the right time of day is just monstrous.What's the matter anon, you can't get up early enough?
I kinda empathise with the complaints ITT though, I some years ago had an idea for a Pokemon game that was more akin to say MGS5 (big open world where you have to scout out what Pokemon you want in the world, use your Pokemon to either distract or overwhelm, gadgets and devices to help you track down small/stealthy/ethereal Pokemon, etc).
But then I just want a game where you fuck the Pokemon and dislike turn based battles so w/e.
No.7558
>>7553> stealing RMS's taglineyou can change the time whenever you want
> world design/area progressionEh, GF knows what makes the game addicting, awesome landscapes you see in Final Fantasy aren't really the games main appeal and traditionally being ran on low powered hand held titles were infeasible until very recently - which they *have* been experimenting with in recent titles like Ultra Moon. This is like knocking on a puzzle game for not having more voice acting.
> battle progressionits only 'bad' because you can intentionally cheese it with type weaknesses (and being OP with efficient grinding in RPGs is usually seen as a boon to the gameplay)
The discussion is pointless though, it's fine to not like it, I'm not particularly attached to them but I've had enough fun playing pokemon to mildly defend the series
No.7560
>>7558>intentionally cheese it with type weaknessesIs that really 'cheesing' when it's the whole point of the game?
No.7561
>>7560No, I just had to extrapolate what anon meant with > bad battle progression
It's clearly a great feature of the pokemon formula
No.7573
>>7553>filled to the brim with exceptions and restrictions because of how broken the system is.Every other e-sport is like that, anon. The only difference is that, most of the time, the exceptions and restrictions are baked into the programming itself and imposed via patches. In Pokémon's case the biggest problem is that all of the enemy teams/encounters are designed on complete autopilot and don't even take advantage of any of the nuances the battle system has (to the point where trainers literally will never switch, use status moves, buffs, debuffs, or use their abilities properly), let alone have their levels properly balanced. Romhacks that actually bother to design trainers tend to be pretty entertaining (like Drayano's, or Clover, as cringe as it is)
Completely agreed on the world-design part. Why they wouldn't get bored of doing the "modern country but wholesome" shtick for 7 gens straight with the exact same gym leader > evil team > E4 > champion routine, even if they knew they were making serotonin dispensers for kids, boggles the mind. Feels like GF only ever gave the post-game and Alola any thought
No.7574
Reposting here what I posted on that /hobby/ thread
>As for vidya, I consider Pokemon a guilty pleasure of mine. I don't see anybody on this site talk about it so I automatically assume I'm alone in liking it. I know the games are shit compared to pretty much any other game and I've hated the franchise since Gen 7, and under this system there's nothing I can do to stop that trainwreck of a series. But I like the monsters and characters, and the setting has so much potential. Which is exactly why I hate it because it's all wasted. Not to mention that they're still selling 2 versions of the same game which in this day and age could be easily replaced by some pokemon randomization per player like what they did with the Friend Safari in XY, but for obvious reasons they'll never do something like this. It's disgusting to see, but I can't help it, I still like Pokemon to an extent. Unfortunately if I tried to hack the games to make them better in any way, and share it with the world, I'd end up in some top secret Game Freak/Nintendo list, after which I'd get sent a C&D letter or worse, men in black would visit my house and physically threaten me so that I stop all "violation of intellectual rights" forever.(By the way, that last thing about the men in black is real in case some of you didn't know already
https://youtu.be/th1ijyjnulw No.7596
Defense should've just been a general defense stat instead of having multiple defenses. Although special attacking special was dumb.
No.7597
>>7596Surely that would make the game way shallower. Also, it makes sense for some pokemon to have higher defence against physical attacks and lower against special attacks, or vice-versa.
No.7598
I like Monotype because it lets you larp as a gym leader/elite 4 member. Did pretty well with a trick room Ghost team. Does anyone play gen8 competitive at all? What's the meta like? Do the restrictions on mons narrow it down even more than usual or does it give some spotlight to previously underappreciated mons?
No.7601
Genuine question from someone who's older than the pokémans, but never got it: what's the appeal? Why do people above age of 8 go crazy over them?
And I don't mean massaging their innards with your dick. That's the part I get.
No.7609
>>7601It's nostalgia from when we were kids, Pokemon was like, a 'social movement' that everyone was involved in.
No.7610
>>7601The monsters and characters are cute/cool, that's what keeps me hooked. But the reason I'm hooked in the first place is because I've liked it since I was a kid, so I've become used to it, I'm immune to its shittiness.
No.7611
>>7601The biggest reason is obviously nostalgia for when you were a kid, but the monster designs are really neat for what they are (wanting to fuck them aside) and IMO the competitive aspect of it is pretty enjoyable. It has plenty of the elements that make, say, TCGs interesting while keeping it simpler and with a much different combat system.
No.7803
Sinnoh remake looks lame and I feel like the open world game is going to have the same trappings the recent games have minus being linear.
No.7810
In all seriousness, I admit I'm kinda hype for New Pokémon Snap. I'll definitely try to emulate it. Looking forward to the Sinnoh husbandos and waifus' redesigns. But damn, was that video disgusting.
>>7803I'm expecting the remake to be kind of the same as the original,
but in 3D! like ORAS was, but I also think it could surprise me in a good way that we can't see now. Partly because another company is also working on it. What sort of infuriates me though (and it's something they also did in ORAS) is that the maps look exactly THE SAME as they did in the original games. Sword and Shield came out nearly two years ago, why can't they modernize the look of an old region for once? Shit, I'd say even Kanto in FireRed and LeafGreen looked more "updated" than the main entries of that generation, Ruby and Sapphire.
The fact that the Arceus game is apparently being developed solely by Game Freak/Creatures is sort of terrifying.
And speaking of Arceus
>Arkeus No.7824
>>7803right now it's looking like unrendered hills and fps crashes for pokemon loading in nearby. they did trailer cuts, so you're supposed to assume that triggering a battle will be near-seamless transition from overworld to battle-mode. given the trailer alone, it might as well be linear because if "interesting events" dont render at a large distance, the player will essentially just be looking at their map and trying to get to the next location the fastest. this would probably be the best gen for having field puzzles, but all we've seen are just hills and grass. pokemon just stand around waiting to be captured.
i was hyped at first bc i saw the leaks but the real thing ended up being very disappointing.
>>7803also, i was wrong about it being feudal. clothing resemble the Ainu people, and its architecture being early Showa period.
No.7929
Pokemon Conquest went into a 3 based stat system and it is actually fantastic to play and setup.
No.7930
>>7929I downloaded that game, but still haven't played it. I liked the sprites and characters, it looks like it's a pretty cool game
No.8259
>>8240team aqua are eco-terrorists, their plan was to drown civilization so that nature can flourish.
No.8260
>>8259What are Team Magma then?
No.8261
>>8240Guess i was meant to be a tankie since i was 6 then.
No.8262
>>8260iirc magma wanted to evaporate the ocean to uncover hyperborea
No.8264
>>8261based
>>8262not sure if serious or not but I laughed either wayTeam Magma wanted to awaken Groudon so that they could create more land for people to live on.
No.8340
>>8335Some of the new Pokemon are fucking awesome, like Corviknight and Vikavolt
Some of the others, however…
>>8263I didn't know that part about Nu-Team Aqua's goals and ideology, because I didn't play Alpha Sapphire, only Omega Ruby and RSE.
No.8826
>>8813It's not a trailer, it's just a music video.
But yeah, I agree.
They "forgot" the Frontier leaders even though they would've fit neatly at the end No.8827
Will the Diamond and Pearl Remakes suck ass? They are the games brought me into Pokemon, so it would be a shame if gamefreak fucks this one up
No.8830
>>8827Most likely, although they got another company to help them handle it this time. This
could mean that the games are going to be good.
No.8831
>>8830I heard they made the characters in chibi form. Lmao why would you do that?
No.8832
>>8831Perhaps to emulate the style and feel of the original DPPt? Yeah it was a very controversial decision
No.8833
there's something about the philosophy of competitive pokemon that bothers me.
i suppose it's that pokemon, more than most games, gives the impression about one where you should just make a team around your favourites - and they're probably shit, but your friends faves will also be shit - so if you're going to play against each other you're just fucking around. but at all times, basically, it's about the monsters, it's about what you like.
but then you look at competitive and it's not about that, it's about winning. so you see a different strategy built around what's objectively effective rather than what your subjective preferences are, and you see people pulling apart the game in all kind of bizarre ways to find the best way to win in a way that goes against whatever stupid philosophical stance i have.
it's not fundamentally an anti-competitive instinct. with something like chess i'm all in on how people play it in ingenuous ways, but there's something specifically about reducing pokemon to being about that style of play. perhaps i have internalized some of the confusing morality of the movies. "gotta catch 'em al– NOT LIKE THAT!!"
No.8834
>>8833The problem is that if someone wants to win, they'll use objectively better pokémon and everyone else will be forced to do the same because losing every time to the same guy is no fun.
How about a rule that you can't use more than one pokémon of each tier?
No.8836
>>8833The thing is, Pokemon was never really designed for competitive play, it was designed for you to play with your other 12-year old friends at school.
No.8837
>>8833Your cognitive dissonance ultimately stems over what it means to be a game. At its most basic level a game is a test of skill for the purpose of entertainment. If a game's test of skill is exceptionally poor, like Pokemon's, it may try to present itself as something else, perhaps analogous to stamp or coin collecting. Pokemon attempts to be a different kind of hobby to hide the fact that it has a poor test of skill, but ultimately it can't escape from the trappings of being a game and that is where the dissonance arises.
No.8838
>>7553>filled to the brim with exceptions and restrictions because of how broken the system isLiterally every e-sport that grew organically is like this, the rest are corporate trash that was made to attract the e-sport crowd from the get go
No.10615
It stopped being a pleasure when gen 6 rolled around, 3D was a mistake.
No.10625
>>10615Gen 6 was
still fun because there were a few new mechanics and the 3D looked fresh at the time, even if ORAS was a bit disappointingIt's Gen 7 where everything went to shit even though they tried to write better plots. At that point every new thing they added in Gen 6 (including the Z-move gimmick which was a repeat of Mega evolution) had gone stale, plus the fact that they released
two new versions of the same game instead of just one like they used to
No.10638
The pokemon games are and solid gameplay wise. Hit me
No.10647
>>10638Yes, I think they're fun, but I don't agree that they're solid in terms of the battle mechanics. They haven't changed the core system at all and it's gotten stale. The most innovative thing they've done was add Fairy type.
No.12908
I can't wait to see how they'll appeal to coomers and fanartists with the character redesigns
You know what I hate about these recent remakes? In some regards they're like a step back from that generation's original games.
No.12909
>>12908(The character redesigns in the Sinnoh remakes, obviously)
No.12940
I feel like black and white was the last time Gamefreak gave a shit about pokemon.
No.12941
>>12940Also, the gameplay is still “OK” for how stale it all feels and despite how the more open world environment in the new games is hollow. That’s even with the dlc that expands it to an acceptable level. But for the love of God, please make your characters less obnoxiously bland and have an interesting villain. I get this is a kids game but pokelore has gotten so lame since they introduced ones who are essential God and Satan. They fall back on that shit in leu of an actual story. I’m sorry, but I don’t need to know about this ancient war between a pokemon that’s a literal sword and another that’s a literal shield. Give me some actual characters with motivations. They don’t even have to be human.
No.14341
So has anyone played it yet? How is it?
It's shit, isn't it? I have seen so little hype on the places I usually hang out that I wasn't aware that it had already come out>>12941Yeah, I think the (badly executed imo) focus on the cover legendaries is partly what has ruined Pokemon for me. It's just so formulaic, it stopped being cool 3 generations ago.
>>14324lol he is
No.14361
>>14341It's just boring. Romhacks offer variety, older games are also quicker on beefier PCs. Playing vanilla pokemon is pointless. Even injecting Gen 1-3 Pokes into BDSP won't add movesets, abilities and everything else they've gutted. It can become a good game once it becomes a PC port, something I've always thought needed to happen and hope someone will actually bother making a nice framework now that makes adding your own Pokemon as easy as editing an .ini file. I mean adding pokemon beyond what exists "in lore", I want to add whatever the fuck I want type-wise and just have a fun challenge. They could have made a good remake that utilized all QoL from earlier gens like they did with ORAS, but it's clearly just not worth playing.
No.14366
What is the best rom hacks to play for each system?
No.14371
>>14366Do your own fucking research
No.14373
>>14366The ones that give all the NPC trainers better teams, for starters.
No.14374
>>14371okay calm down, it's just a request for pokemon rom hack suggestion not a "who should i vote for" question
No.14378
>>14366Fangames:
- Uranium
- Xenoverse
- Insurgence
GBC:
- Prism
GBA:
- Liquid Crystal
- Inclement Emerald
- Radical Red
- Glazed
- Unbound
- Gaia
DS:
- Renegade Platinum
Upcoming:
- Sacred Gold & Storm Silver v2
- Volt White 2 & Blaze Black 2 Redux
These are going to be 2 difficulty/balance/QoL hacks based on Drayano's existing hacks, cause his current BW(2) and HGSS hacks are kinda outdated compared to the extremely polished Renegade Platinum. All of them are developed by Drayano, co-developed in the case of BW2 Redux.
Someone else is in charge of BW2R development, seems like a pretty motivated and talented guy so I don't expect development to take too long. SGSSv2 is a bit complicated cause Drayano (the dev) just returned from a 7-month hiatus and says development is a bit slow, plus there's a bunch of new breakthroughs that happened in DS romhacking over time so IIRC he's somewhat back to the drawing board determining whether or not to include some of the new available features.
Mind you, I haven't played most of these. The ones I've finished are Glazed, which was OK, then Renegade Platinum and Radical Red which I can both wholeheartedly recommend if you're looking for a challenging, fun, refreshing experience and then Unbound which is probably the best non-QoL romhack there is IMO.
No.14380
>>14374If you can't do your own research, you can't contribute to the discussion. Learn to fucking google and form your own opinions.
No.14383
>>14375>Espeon/Umbreon>eeveelutionsshit taste tbh
No.14384
>>14383Well anon, you may be overlooking the fact that Vaporeon was MADE FOR SEX.
No.14385
no one’s made a fucking double battle only rom hack and I might as well do it myself. FUCK. got no clue where to start though. Maybe there can be a co-op rom hack, if that’s even possible
No.14390
>>14385There's this co-op mode where the opposing player controls the enemy AI. It's eceleb videos on it though so I'm not sure if the actual romhack got released somewhere.
No.14391
>>14385>double battle-only hackBased
No.14395
>>14386Gen 6 (2014-106) was pretty fun for VGC. I think a lot of people who previously didn't pay attention to the competitive scene suddenly gained an interest in it (me included), partly because it was now easier to breed and train competitive pokemon and to battle online.
No.14426
BDSP has been officially redeemed. It now officially qualifies as a remake. I'll personally still wait for further improvements but this +5x speed clearly trumps Platinum.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/344711 No.14496
Just wanted to chime in and say that MD is mediocre in its genre, shovelware with a poke skin, hasn't innovated in 2-3 decades and is only praised by ignorant smucks that literally won't touch the genre beyond the surface. The same type of people that want a "pokemon game with all the regions". Pokemon is special. Don't be that guy that praises anything with a pokeskin.
No.14497
>>8833It's because we didn't care about the stats of the Pokemon as kids.
No.14510
>>14496> The same type of people that want a "pokemon game with all the regions"I could never really get into MD but is it so bad to want a Pokemon game with all the regions? It doesn't even sound that difficult to pull off.
No.14511
>>14510Think about level design for a second
No.14540
>>14510think about how to adjust the encounters/difficulty/XP gain,and if you get answer to those problems,tell me.
No.14554
>>14496What game are you talking about? I'm assuming Mystery Dungeon but I've haven't seen anyone who likes that also want a pokemon game with all regions and that series is a few years off from being 2 decades old, let alone 3.
>>14510>Doesn't even sound that difficult to pull offGSC has fucked exp and pokemon distribution and it only has 2 regions and <300 pokemon. Try making sure that and other factors aren't fucked for 8 regions and 1k+ pokemon.
No.14562
>>14540make the game take place during a multi-regional "season" of pokemon training and fighting and divide the badges into ranks, with each rank you earn upgrading the remaining trainers in other areas to reflect weaker trainers and pokemon getting "knocked out" of the competition.
in addition, scale it so its harder to bumrush one or two regions to incentivize region-hopping, but don't make it totally impossible. like the more you complete in just one or two areas, the more fierce competition becomes because it gets seen as a hotspot for hotshot trainers, with bigger challenges and rewards. you don't need all badges/ranks to qualify for the finals, just something like 70% of them.
No.14606
anyone try temtem? i tried it when it came out and it didn't really hold me but after BDSP i went back to it and i think it's pretty good
No.14607
>>14385check out pokemon radical red or emerald ROWE. both have options to enable double battles for the entire game, as well as no IV modes and other QOL shit
No.14609
just discovered this gem
No.14611
>>14608following pokemon seems cringe I never liked the following pikachu in yellow because you can't get rid of it and its always there practically chained to you
No.14635
>>14611in heartgold/soulsilver you can choose if you want it to follow you or not,and you just have to put it in first place of your team.
it's honestly a detail,but I appreciate being able to choose to do it if I want (and that would be easy as fuck to reproduce in the 3d ones,but what can you do)
>>14562damn,sounds like a shitton of work and still a balancing nightmare,like do you limit the number of pokemon you can have ? are there level limits ? what does ranking up change,the team of the entire trainer place or just upgrade their levels and change the moves accordingly ? (does it needs all 8 regions ?)
No.14636
>>14635 (me)
also forgot,how do you deal with mithycal/legendaries ? all postgame ?
No.14657
>>14635>do you limit the number of pokemon you can haveNo, at least no more than the games already do with the box and party system.
>are there level limitsNah the existing systems would probably work fine.
>what does ranking up change,the team of the entire trainer place or just upgrade their levels and change the moves accordinglyIt depends on how much you have ranked up, there would be breakpoints where there would be evolutions and/or swapped out team members. Likewise with moves, they would broadly follow the natural pokemon's movelist plus whatever TMs/HMs could be acquired within that rank.
>how do you deal with mithycal/legendariesI'd like to do them as easter egg hunts but the internet ruins that anymore so a mix of really hard dungeons/mini regions and also seasonal events.
No.14658
>>14608>shiny hunting>can't beat itSeems pretty trivial to beat it with a game that doesn't have that horrible bullshit.
No.14668
>>14380No
Fuck off
This is part of research, Not everybody conducts their research by reading listicles, sally
No.14669
>>14663what would marx think of pokemon card fetishism
also who is this guy
>dogging on consumerism>going to north koreaaverage reactionary or based anti-capitalist?
No.14670
>>14669based anti-capitalist or at least succdem at worst
Can't believe I've finally seen the mythical left Australian at last, and there's two of them!
No.14679
>>14562>just make 5 games in oneOr just make 5 games. A 'region' is an abritrary concept. Having more than one is abritrary unless it actively works against just regular level design
No.14683
>>14562Would this still allow you to choose which region you wanna start in? That would honestly make it better as a role-playing game
No.14684
>>14663>its being used to generate profit>therefore the product badok then lets stop buying food if this line of thought is correct
No.14686
>>14683Yeah, since its effectively leveled to your progress you could start in whatever region, really in any town (bar like victory road's town or whatever)
No.14693
>>14687psychological needs obviously
No.14694
>>14687that pyramid is subjective and liberal, also where does the device you used to access this website fall?
No.14695
>>14694Under FOSS, aka it cannot be found in the impulse buy aisle at Walmart
No.14718
>>14684>>14694thing is we need food to survive. Pokemon is a brand selling fuck all. Commoditiy fetishism at its finest, but you smart ass want to equate it food? Are you that much of a pokemon-playing loser?
No.14723
>>14672> 26 de Julio flagi didn't know what this was until now
thanks
No.14724
>>14684>food is as neccessary and vital as pokemon cards…
No.14734
How is this different from just having 5 different games?
No.15027
Okay, so I've played and beaten PLA over the last couple of days. On 1.01 Ryujinx. Took me about 8-9 hours but it's easily doable in 5-6. (This is with Shader Caching and playing at 3 times the speed) (and idling since it's on my PC) There's only 1-2 real towns. No interesting sights to be seen either, you think a game based on Sinnoh would be familliar? You don't even really discover new regions, you just teleport there with your camp. Even the Dark Souls segments felt easier at 3x speed and I did them whole, rather than continuing which would have decreased my playtime a bit.
The game is mostly just a chore, very few real battles, the 3rd through 4th STAR required to proceed the story took me a bit extra grinding, the rest pretty much came as I rushed through. Don't want to do post-game until I can inject cheats/save edit. There's some challenge to be had with the "battle facility" but I don't want to waste time training pokes. I don't know how to get cheats to work on Ryujinx.
The way status ailments work is very unsettling. Sleep doesn't seem 100%, enemies can recover from poison etc. It's weird. Oh well. The year's over before you know it, can't wait for gen 9. Sword/Shield had more polish. Another mediocre-to-bad game such as BOTW that becomes only tangibly less a chore if you play less of it by the way of cheats. The new designs are fine stats-wise; like always no complaints there.
No.15084
>>14918>nearly all of them not shown in promo footage are uglykek they obviously knew that, that's why the trailers looked decent
personally I think the Dialga/Palkia fusions (especially the latter) are some of the least ugly.
>gamefreak should just stick to human designs as they excel at thatLOL
>>15027>Okay, so I've played and beaten PLAPeople's Liberation Army?
>Another mediocre-to-bad gamekek I remember when everyone thought the Sinnoh remakes would be shit and Arceus Legends would be decent. It seems that it turned out to be the other way around lmao
No.15089
>sinnoh remakes would be shit
They are. Only redeemed by the WIP mods that add features not present in Pt.
>PLA is decent
it is. Decent if you ignore most of the game. Like how MMBN becomes decent if you disable random encounters.
No.15097
>>15027I think they updated the statuses for freeze and sleep. They’ve been replaced with frostbite and “sleepy” or something like that. frostbite is now a special burn, hail replaced(?) I think with snow that increases speed of ice types, drowsy let’s Pokémon attack half the time or some shit like that.
I’ve seen footage, and I feel like the novelty will wear off fast. I guess all Pokémon games are like that but Nuzlockes should be interesting I guess.
No.15144
>>15027>Another mediocre-to-bad game such as BOTWJudging by your opinions, PLA must be awesome
No.15296
>>15237>>15236>Legendary pokémon>genderwhat the fuck is this heresy? Is this a hack?
No.15306
>>15296inflation is a bitch, once you have a literally god pokemon, legendary starts to not mean that much
No.15445
>>15296It's a chink pokemon game that features more pokemon than Sword/Shield and a somewhat unique storymode. I just vicariously experience it through someone 'dedicated' enough to play a pokemon game that features daily chores and a bunch of micro transactions. Not a bad game but I'm currently waiting for them to add the 7th gym and beyond. The OC these games bring with them and the meta are honestly quite interesting to follow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJWmn-L8OOA&t=8620sThere's also Pocket Incoming which has some nice 2d animations. Likely made by the same company that makes all the other clone games.
No.18176
>>15998repent while you can sinner, this is the world of sprigatto, you are nothing but a smidge in the path to world dominations
gods will bleed
nations will crumble
sprigattoCHADS will rule this planet and the multiverses
No.18183
THEY ADDED GIGACHAD TO POKEMON
No.18195
>>18188>route designi think they’re going all in on the free roam open world according to the website. unfortunately this could mean open plains again. honestly the pika clone looks better in the 2d art than in the 3d style which is weird since I thought since going to 3d they’d synchronize better between art and 3d model. I like the olive but I’m just a basic bitch
No.18311
>>18178what did they do to weed cat brehs…
>>18183IT'S TIME
are the Nintendo Switch emulators for PC good enough yet?
No.18312
>>18188pikachu (charizard abosorbed)
No.18317
>18311
>memes and porn
No.18451
>>18444
there vague mentioning of a Pokémon war
however I would bet there are terfs in Pokémon. probably hate ditto.
maybe Cynthia since she’s an archaeologist and maybe she’s read stuff on past societies
No.18452
>>18444
Probably one from Pokemon Conquest.
No.18469
>>18451also definitely not Steven. literally a capitalist. most likely Zinnia since she’s indigenous and the last of her kind. ain’t no way you can be the last of her kind without genocide and she fervently hates Devon Corp(Steven’s company), a literal mineral extraction company, so put two and two together.
No.18567
>>18469Pokemon Champion's shouldn't be allowed to own companies
That feels wrong…
Who makes even the pokeballs in-universe?
What company has monopoly on that?
Oh my god, did those custom, apricot pokeballs go out of fashion because the corporation that manufactures banned them?
No.18606
>>18567In gen 1, silph co. made pokeballs, as evidenced by the CEO giving you a master ball.
In gen 2, Kurt made pokeballs out of berries somehow, indicating that this is how they used to be made. professor elm also says that before the invention of the pokeball, pokemon would walk besides their trainers.
In gen 3, Devon made pokeballs, as evidenced by an employee giving you a "new" greatball.
Not sure about the rest tho
No.18618
>>18606pokeballs were the worst invention in the pokemon world it seems
pokemons were allowed to be free albeit with their partner, at most you would have 3 or 4
but because of their invention, pokemon literally became commodity, stuffed and collected into hundreds
they need to execute the ceos of silph.co and devon
but first, that guy who is dressed up as a pokeball must pay
No.18628
>>18618completely forgot about N. N was definitely right… at least the old radical N…
No.18667
>>18618Don't forget that bill created a method to digitally store Pokemon in a 90s computer and reconstruct them at any time.
No.18771
>>7540https://www.pokewiki.de/Spezial:Geheimcode-Generator#pwaikotobalearnt about primo and his secret codes
any other cool pokemon websites like this, do you know?
No.19085
Meanwhile… in communist china. Pokemon is thriving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x6KLHnfGEg No.19102
Embedding error.
>post yfw a euro started pokemon canonically
No.19103
>>19085how do i get the apk for this game?
No.19104
>>19103Bruh, I put just the name of the game into search and the apk was the second result.
https://apkpure.com/pocket-incoming/com.vypkaz.eoujql.zophnu.gsrjo No.19113
>>19085damn, I didn’t watch all the video but I love the xerneas animation
No.19518
>>19104apkpure, my beloved
it gave me free world of goo too, without paying somehow
No.19538
>>19537If there was a real pokemon just wearing a waistcoat, you would shit yourself about how 'they're supposed to be animals reeeeee'
No.19565
>>19537Victrebeel secret third evolution leek?
No.24363
I don't get how people praise B/W for having a story that criticizes the relationship between pokemon and trainers when the game treats anyone (team plasma) as being an idiot for suggesting it's weird to be concerned about how pokemon are treated on top of every team plasma member being depicted as a hypocrite. And that's not even getting into major spoilers like Ghetis turning out to not actually care to liberate pokemon and just wanting to takeover the region and tricking N to serve that purpose. It's been a while since I played it, but it seems the story doesn't really explore the concept at all. (I've never played B/W2).
No.24389
>>24363Imo it was an underutilized concept in BW because the game had to go back to the status quo at the end. Can't really have the player feel guilt for catching and battling with Pokemon since that's the point of the games.
No.25445
Do u guys support only playing gale of darkness and wasting a masterball on a surskit? Cuz ive never played anything besides gale of darkness and i wasted the masterball on a surskit
No.25453
What do you guys think about a Leftypol Pokemon Showdown Tournament? Gen 9, organized via Matrix, would random (so no worry about making a good team) be preferred?
No.25627
>>7540i like monotype, it's really satisfying to win with a "weak" type or against a bad matchup.
water is my favorite type to play, good defense and really threatening with rain teams.
No.25638
>>25453sounds kino. would it be organized through emulation?
No.26469
>>25445I support playing only the B/W series
No.26578
>>26573Damn, that lynx has some
serious fuckin' curves, and a cool carnival theme to boot.
How did they fuck up so bad with the other ones though? The crocodile generally looks like something out of a Chinese Pokemon knockoff mobile game, while the bird got some weird bulbs instead of feet, just for starters. Why go with random nonsense instead of more organic shapes, just why?
No.26579
>>26573I miss such great designs such as, bird, rat, kangaroo, other bird, slime, caterpillar, and lets not forget, a big pokeball.
No.26739
It just occurred to me, in the first generation of games, you have references to the moon landing and space shuttles.
In the latest generation you have gym leaders that are in universe streamers.
No.26747
>>26741who did war crimes most likely
No.29781
>>26747Blaines committed war crimes and regrets it
Lt.surge committed war crimes and is proud of it
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