When did you realize that Marxism-Leninism-Maoism was the ideology of the proletariat and that People's War was universal? Maybe around 2019 for me after reading the PCP's works.
List of Communist Party of Peru works in English:
https://web.archive.org/web/20131004230513/http://www.blythe.org/peru-pcp/docs_en/dlist_en.htm>>753Im not american, dumbfuck.
You ever been to China? To the places mao fought from? I have.
Empty as fuck, hella mountains.
I live in western europe. All flat. All villages and cities. All roads and population. Cant even see the fucking stars because of the amount of light polution. Nature reserves are a maximum of 4 km wide and crisscrossed with high traffic roads.
Same for india. Same for the philipines. Theres plenty of places in india and the philipines that mountainous, full of fucking jungle, baiscally guerilla paradise. You cannot compare it to highly urbanised river deltas or plains.
You cant wage protracted peoples war in urban environments. Hell, you can hardly wage protracted peoples war in high industry areas even if it was in the middle of the mountains.
Protracted peoples war works when your local economy is more or less self contained and you can use the environment to carve out territory to supply troops with food and other basic necessities while you raid and black market trade for weapons and ammo.
It doesnt work in areas where all ways are open for those with the most tanks and cars, where all industry is highly dependent on complex wide spanning supply chains, that doesnt even grow its own food.
Maybe read about how Mao actually waged protracted peoples war, instead of saying "HURRR THERE IS CITIES IN CHINA TOO". Yes, thats why he fucking fled to a gigantic maintainchain and all the cities were controlled by the KMT right up until mao litterally surrounded the cities by capturing all the agricultural areas and using it (with soviet aid) to support his army.
Wow. Would you look at those maps. Maoist territory coincides with sparse population. Who would have predicted this?
>>758>>759They succeeded in there short term goals of Irish seperation but a valid criticism of the IRA is that they didnt adopt a socialist attitude and have succumbed to neo-liberal cringe.
The movement itself however suceeded in using techniques taught to them by revolutionary socialist countries.
>>756Ah yes,
Ireland.
Famous for being highly urbanised and densely populated.
>>779Most of the fighting between the CPC and KMT also happened in urbanised areas.
Ignoring that superimposing terrorist seperatism from actual protracted peoples war (with base areas and the actual meat of the method), the highly agricultural, desolate nature of Ireland allows for guerilla operations.
>>780The IRA engaged in the peoples war but for seperatism from the UK instead of for a socialist project; They had socialist cells and groups within them but they ultimately died out and failed to retain power after there revolution suceeded due to a lack of a strong vanguard.
It doesnt stop the fact that most of the IRAs campaigns where utilized in towns and cities; they would just treat homes like a jungle and typically go out there way to blend in to it due to there public support meaning people would typically just let them hide in there house or manuver thru it + store guns/explosives in urban enviroments and such.
They learned how to ratchet this up from North Korea and had arms and explosives provided to them by AES; they are a model to learn from.
>>782The IRA did not engage in people's war, as they were not a communist party. I'm sure your intentions are good, but it's a revisionist error to paint all urban guerrilla warfare as people's war.
People war is inherently led by the Communist Party, as taught by Mao and Gonzalo.
>>751Do you people like to pretend that the Russian revolution *wasn't* a people's war? Why has it not been accepted that people's war is a science that is adapted to the conditions where it takes place? Every argument against PPW in "urban" countries boils down to saying that armed revolution can't win in imperialist countries.
idk or care if this is a troll thread or genuine, but can any Maoist tell me why exactly PPW is universal? It seems very particular to specific circumstances for 2 reasons:
1) people's war, rather than proletarian revolution. This is suited to semi-feudal and semi-colonial countries primarily and not fully developed capitalist countries
2) protracted refers to the nature of struggle between a small force and a large foe. It's necessary to retreat, lay a trap, take a bit out of the enemy, and repeat. But this can only work if the enemy is disunited and uncoordinated (which allows mobility and retreat), as well as the geographic features like a large country necessary for mobile warfare. Protracted is necessarily mobile, while revolutions springing up will be from the start encircled by the enemy. the chinese communists used protracted people's war strategy within a country that had been in upheaval for 20 years, and at war since the 1800s.
PPW doesnt seem to tell us very much about making revolution. It holds useful seeds such as good military strategy (that Mao got from Clausewitz, Sun Tzu, etc, though we shouldnt ever look down on any lessons drawn from or confirmed in revolutions), a firm understanding of the need to ally with non-proletarian elements under the leadership of the proletariat, and other maoist additions are extremely useful (Mass Line is an essential contribution, that touches the core of marxist practice).
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