/ufo/ - Paranormal and Conspiracies

If the problem is an economic system than your not that special and you'll have to actually go interact with your neighbors and coworkers. Mainstream conspiritard shit is for egotistical misanthropes who recognize they're getting screwed over but are too anti-social and self-absorbed for any amount of pro-social behavior. Thats why they always talk about muh sheeple/NPCs/goycattle, they're anti-sonder and believe they're the only truly human person around them.

>>1634
And how are they wrong? Normies just want to stuff their faces and fuck.
Also, I don't get the connection to the OP, nothing there is said about sheeple/NPCs/goycattle.

>>1635
one of us one of us

>>1628
>The elite are not normies.
I mean psychological normies, people that just do it to have and keep stuff. No one chooses to be born into an elite family. What do you think could be involved in this?

>>1621
If they're creating elephants then what's their reasons behind it?

>>1628
Did you not read the files? Epstein was literally the most aggressively dumb normie guy in history

>>1629
>>1630
You speak as if Epstein wasn't simply a pimp and Israeli honeypot, with no direct connection to any aristocratic families or anyone else higher.
Okay, but what about loosh farm? If the elite just wanted money and power, they would simply turn the entire world into a gulag. Instead, we have relative freedom, much of which is used to provoke negative emotions and pit people against each other.

>>1631
>Okay, but what about loosh farm?
That's the purpose of life, and suffering which is non-consensual and chaotic loosh is the cheapest but not the only form of loosh to produce. Humans surrender to vices and that means you have to defeat and keep all 7 sins at bay to prevent suffering from being hand waved away as necessary to the economy because of popular convenience. If some aristocrats get blackmailed, how do you suppose you would save them from that if you're a rabid Marxist? It would save you both the trouble of suffering.

>If the elite just wanted money and power, they would simply turn the entire world into a gulag.
That's not cheap at all.

>Instead, we have relative freedom, much of which is used to provoke negative emotions and pit people against each other.
The desire to create non-consensual loosh in each other, right? You deserve it because suffering doesn't offend you in itself. It's useful to you to shame and control others so it has economic value.

>>1632
>That's the purpose of life
Marx/Engels said that all history is the exploitation of one class by another, but surely this must end someday and communism must come?
>and suffering which is non-consensual and chaotic loosh is the cheapest but not the only form of loosh to produce.
Perhaps, especially considering the origins of the term, but I'm simply using loosh as a translation of the Russian word гаввах, meaning that as I see it, the elite only cares about the energy of suffering, and they don't really want to make people happy. Moreover, they're currently testing the waters to see how much they can torture humanity before it starts dying.
>Humans surrender to vices and that means you have to defeat and keep all 7 sins at bay to prevent suffering from being hand waved away as necessary to the economy because of popular convenience.
I don’t get it, are you saying that people are to blame for their suffering because they don’t perform bnei noach?
>If some aristocrats get blackmailed, how do you suppose you would save them from that if you're a rabid Marxist? It would save you both the trouble of suffering.
Why should I save them? Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
>That's not cheap at all.
North Korea, Stalin's USSR, Hitler's Germany. All of these have been tried and succeeded, but even North Korea, the last bastion of totalitarianism, is beginning to implement democratic reforms and grant its citizens increasing freedoms.
>The desire to create non-consensual loosh in each other, right?
Duh
>You deserve it because suffering doesn't offend you in itself. It's useful to you to shame and control others so it has economic value.
I don’t get it

>>1564
I saw an alien a few months ago
just thought you should know

>>1603
Elaborate plox.

>>1570
>The Sons of Cain are modern ambassadors to the serpent race. They de evil disgusting crap to infect themselves with parasites that have been plaguing this world since the serpentigena have been living here. These parasites have elaborate molecular matrices allowing them to efficiently receive aether currents from the serpentigena.
Looks like somebody has been reading this thread kek
<starts from 36:36

The answer:
>The Serpentigena
>We return to the pleroma

See what anon posted on this board >>1559 and then try to apply it to this guy >>686

Evil exists and most people are delusional and follow their own little idpol and aesthetic cults that keeps them blind to it. Anti-essentialists and anti-idealists are demon enablers.

Delulus
>>691
>The retarded mental fucking gymnastics needed for ts. 😭😭😭
>These mfs will believe in anything except simple class analysis, capitalists have been doing crazy shit since the industrial revolution.
>>701
>Sorry but the demons are just alienated people reifying their own alienation.
So let's bully the bully victims and finish the job.

Trvke
>>710
>there is no materialist analysis of raping babies and eating their organs
But it happens.

>>718
>AI will steal more and more jobs, leaving more and more unemployed and poor while the Elites drown in wealth and commit acts of degeneracy paid for by the money that should go to workers
AI will affect men disproportionately and create gang wars until they're studied and pest control fixes the problem. There will be few men and they will only exist to lead and entertain women.

>>809
I think they have a two tier system, the 144,000 are those assistant rulers of Jesus in heaven, while everyone else are living in paradise on earth. They call the first group the anointed and the second the great crowd iirc.
Reminds me of a parliament, as above so below.

While the elites worship European neo-Nazi esotericism mixed with Norse mythology, they also seem to worship the Abrahamic religions, Freemasonry and ancient Assyrian mythologies; I struggle to make sense of the whole thing.

>>1376
You can trust me

It's not a uniquely Israeli tactic, but they're absolutely doing it.

It has the exact same goal as the muslim terrorists who drive vans into crowds of shoppers during the winter holidays. Those guys know full well that doing that is going to make people hate them. That's kind of the point.

The biggest threat to radical Wahabbi power are muslims who just want to live a normal life. Get a job, meet a girl, watch football, teach your children how to ride a bicycle. The extremists need to radicalize those guys, and the only way to do that is to heighten islamophobia throughout western societies.

So the point of the terror attacks is to invite Europe and the US to be more racist. To surveil and imprison normal muslims, to heighten the hate, so that the Wahabbis can go, "you see? They'll never accept you. You'll always be a camel jockey to them. They've hated you for centuries and they'll always hate you. The only hope you have of a life is with us."

And Israel does the exact same thing.

Israel can't have jews who just want to be normal people, who don't consider themselves bound to Israel. So they need society to be antisemitic, they need non-Jews to hate and suspect Jews at all times so that they can turn to the Jews and go, "You see? The only place you can be human is in Israel. Everything that's good for israel is good for you and everything that's bad for it is bad for you."

The two groups most dedicated to convincing everyone of the Dual Loyalty trope are neonazis and Israelis.

>>1379
Islamophobia isn't racist and it's not a thing. There's plenty of white or light skin Muslims. Otherwise hating Christians is racist because 80% of them are Bantu Africans, Pinoys and Latinos.

>>1461
All religion should be hated equally.

>>1371
>Anyways I just wanted to say that I think Israel might be actively trying to rise antisemitism in the U.S.
yeah. it makes jews want to move to israel. so it paradoxically serves the settler cause. Zionist founder Herzl mentions this in the 19th century, and Hitler himself deported Euro-Jews to Palestine.

>>1075
For very ancient Greeks, we do not know.
For Roman and Egyptian faiths, primary sources survive from practitioners and we have (biased) accounts from Jewish and Christians.
Most other ancient faiths we have to rely more on inference.

>>1085>>1075 I'll briefly cover 4 types of worship in anxiety Greece: Olympian, Rustic, Chthonic, and Orphic.
And we do have knowledge how the Greeks of the middle period worshipped, not only from art and statuary but also from preserved written hymns like the famed hymn of Demeter, likely performed by her priestesses!(Link below)
For most people, religion was a public and political affair, not the praying-to-God before-bed-type of religion. The closest we have to prevalent worship was worship to Hestia, goddess of the hearth, protector of the family who reverb praise before meals at home or staying the day.
The actual gods would change from city to city but usually would at least include Zeus , Poseidon, and one of the Olympian goddesses. Sometimes a titan or mereid like Thetis. This is the Olympian cult. Sacrifice might be deity-specific, like Olive Oil for Athena, but when in doubt all gods are pleased with the burnt entrails of a white ox or other large animal!
Outside of major urban areas the Olympic cult was less prevalent. In the countryside, Rustic gods like Pan were worshipped. I don't know much about /how/ they were worshipped, but we have a good idea of whichever deities and why.
Chthonic, or "underworld" gods, were also whales to a leader extent. This includes Hades, Persephone, Hecate and was associated with magic. Sacrifices were animals buried alive.
The last type and only kind with any excited of being outlawed that I'm aware of is the Orphic cult, a proto-gnostic group that believed that c death could be conquered. Mostly worshipped Demeter, Dionysus.
There are also "mystery cults" that we only know of from mentions but have no surviving details.


https://www.theoi.com/Text/HomericHymns1.html#2

>>1085
>>1086
Do we have any evidence showcasing that the commoners believed in it? Did only the kings believe in it like Buddhism?

westerner viewing eastern religion through a western lens? color me shocked. but seriously, these are not centralized religions, not even in a rough way like the several christian denominations, they're much more scattered.

I took mushrooms 15 years ago and while laying down on my bed halfway through a trip, I hallucinated a council of my clones sitting in my room with me and debating over my life and choices

I was basically transported to the shadow realm for supporting Palestine too hard. Only got out bc the powers that be felt bad over my shitting and pissing. Still support Palestine. Big L for demon forces.

I died for real and saw heaven and hell and then I came back

>>1558
Then I found out who the Heaven is for, who the purgatory is for and who the Hell is for. It's all true and it all exists.

Ask me about the shadows in the woods.

all of this implies free will and people getting what they deserve but we see in practice that the brain makes caused decisions, based on things beyond its control, like its composition and environmental stimuli, and not the uncaused decisions of the "free will". For example if you have a brain damaged child and they begin slamming their head against the wall because they are brain damaged, and nobody stops them, they accumulate even more brain damage. They are not really in a position to make "good" decisions. Does this person go to hell? No they are just an individual with brain damage. There are obviously more subtle forms of damage stopping people from making "Good" decisions. Some of these can seem more "self imposed" than others but at the end of the day even our "bad choices" are a result of our unchosen brain composition and environmental stimuli. Peoples "choices" therefore aren't free and the main pretense of religion is to get over this scary fact by pretending true justice is possible and everyone gets what they deserve through a cosmic justice system. This satisfies peoples worries but also creates a world where people are held "accountable" for things which were never really under control. Accountability is a social ritual to help people cope with the fact that the human will isn't really free by pretending that it is and punishing bodies for the behaviors of "their" brains.

I have recently been to the pleroma so I can confirm a lot of what you wrote is trvth.

>>1562
Free will does not work like that. Free will is tied to sentience and consciousness. It is exercised through acknowledgement of emanation whereby contradictions unresolved by the neurology generate "sparks" activating your sentience. Yes there are zombies among us, also true pneumatics and everyone in between.

>>1563
Do you hang out here often? Read this thread fully and completely >>>/tech/33446 and give me an honest opinion of male feminism. I want to know what you think.

>>1563
Yes, thank god there are others!

>>1562
What do you believe about human consciusness? Does it exist and how does it exist?

>>1583
I read the thread but I am very confused. At the very least, I think modern society is anti-everything normal and natural so whatever relationship you get, expect sabotage. Either the man is abusive or the woman is. They are deliberately making atomized individuals incapable of making families which are the backbone of any society. This was a rant on /leftypol/ I made about how we do not have enough human capital for building communism because we do not have gemeinwesen anymore.

Incel is just a definition and a mind game. Except for really short periods of time (literally during sex), everyone on the planet is a self-unaware incel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(mind_game)

>>1550
haha, your incel is showing

For real incel types or whatever >>>/siberia/814664

Incels want Stacy foids

what abt picrel?