A thread for the best scifi on TV atm, aka "21st Century but in Space" simulator.
>>13255Nah, The Expanse has already done several books within one series (the latter half of series 3 is just one book in of itself).
I believe the showrunners can do a good job of it tbh, and considering they have 2 series to finish it off: they might not get to do all the books but they can at-least end it properly unlike GoT.
Also I didn't realise that's why they ditched Alex tbh, makes sense now.
>>13250yeah that's pretty small brain. even monsters can patronize good art or entertainment
>nooooo I won't go to the coliseum to enjoy the splendid murdergames because they were paid for by the tyrant domitian<imagine being that pleb
>>14086A mate of mine told me this is actually how
Fred Johnson dies in the books.
>>21767>So what did everyone think of episode one? The alien planet was random and weird and uneventful.Agree. They should have used that as a cliffhanger, not as an opener.
>Was Naomi flying the ship in the initial battle?It is weird as fuck because nobody of them is a pilot and even Alex had problems navigating the Roci in the beginning because a gun ship is hard to fly. Yet they are still easily outmaneuvering their opponents without a trained pilot. To just kill off Alex instead of doing a recast was the worst the decision of the show so far.
>Naomi was annoying and unlikeable last seasonDisagree. Naomi easily had her most likeable season last season. Also acting-wise. I agree she was a bitch in that episode.
Easily the worst opening episode of the show, because it was pretty uneventful.
>>21782 (me)
Messed up my post, yeah I read the last book, it was decent.
>>21769>Ever since they were on the colony world the scope of the plot really narrowed.Season 3 was really eventful, so season 4 and the corresponding book was supposed to be a transitional, calmer part of the story.
I disagree with you completely about season 5. We finally got to see the characters being apart, and it was pretty eventful. About the acting, meh, you are maybe right, but the story and their production value make up for that. But I agree that it isn't a show carried by its actors. But from an objective standpoint, I really do not understand how season 5 is worse than season 3.
>the other guy was wandering a forest with a mutant, while Earth was supposedly in crisis. What? She was a prisoner, it's likely they would have just put her down at an UN camp as they can't support prisonders anymore. They had to walk through the woods and make use of Amos' connections to criminal syndicates to get her off earth.
The only thing that pisses me off about season 5 is the last episode and the clumsy ending.
>>21790>I tried watching the first season but I just kept falling asleep. I liked the concept of the belters and exploring the consequences of living in 0 g on the human body, but the exposition and acting was just sooooooo boring.I watched the first episode randomly and never finished it, but someone recommended it strongly to me and I stuck with it and it gets much better IMO. I never really like Miller that much and the first season focuses on him heavy, then later season barely at all to not at all. The real center of the story is the crew that left to go check out that ship even if for some reason they slowly, slowly, introduce them and make them the focus.
>>21768>Disagree. Naomi easily had her most likeable season last season. Also acting-wise. I agree she was a bitch in that episode.Mmm, maybe you're right. She probably had more annoying seasons. I still thought callously using that guy on Marco's crew who was being nice to her was a bit much. I could understand why she would do it or need to do it. But her self-righteous speeches are so tiring. Most stories don't have these kinds of characters get called out, but it was cool seeing Amos see-through her and become his own man.
>>21798>I still thought callously using that guy on Marco's crew who was being nice to her was a bit much.He stepped into that airlock fully aware of what she was going to do. He talked her out of this before, so he thought he could do it again, knowing that it would result in him being spaced as well. Also, that dude tried to kill her entire friends by sabotaging the launching codes of the Rocinante.
>But her self-righteous speeches are so tiring. I believe that was also what pushed Filip back into the arms of Marco because she was very moralistic, which she wasn't before. On the other hand, she was always the only one in the Roci crew who even dared to speak up for the Belt, an oppressed nation, while the others constantly "muh both sided" them.
It was dumb of her to be a bitch towards Clarissa. Clearly, as someone who also had a traumatic underdog story alienated from her family, she should be able to sympathize. If there is one chick Naomi should be worried about it is that hot journalist woman who already flirted with her boyfriend Holden three times.
I still can't help to think that episodes 8-10 was Dominique Tipper's best perfomance in the show so far. You might think she overplayed it a bit during her martydom on that ship, but what was annoying is that she got out of it completely unscathed while Alex just… randoly does. This is bad writing. At least Game of Thrones wasn't afraid to take things away from their characters, like Bran's legs, Jamie's hand, Tyrion's concubine, etc. - Naomi just looks like she just came from a wellness holiday afterwards. They could have at least took away one of her eyes or limbs to give us a reminder that we are only sacks of meat and bone in the most hostile enviroment imagineable for humans.
>>21801>she got out of it completely unscathed I agree, some persistent coughing or smth at least would have helped sell it as the harrowing experience it was supposed to be
>But her self-righteous speeches are so tiring. I think everyone can agree on that, although its understandable for the character. There is so much that is wrong with marcos even from a true OPA pov, but there really isnt anyone that challenges him on that side (vaguely philip in the new episode, but barely).
>>21798> I still thought callously using that guy on Marco's crew who was being nice to her was a bit muchI mean it was her only way to save literally all the people she cares about, and the guy was also revealed to have taken her child and hidden it from her, causing her to try suicide and eventually run away. The reason he was nice was because he felt guilty.
>It was dumb of her to be a bitch towards Clarissathey really fucked up the on-board dynamic with removal of alex, you wonder how the fuck these people can still stand each others enough to fight a war together
also, michio pa breakdown/removal was very weird, seem like a reason found just to get rid of the actor or smth. Who the fuck screws up pushing a button on mark when its tense ? why cant you just remove her from combat op ?
>Alex just… randoly does. This is bad writingthe excuse is they did it because the actor was removed for legal problems (harassment or smth). But they did handle badly indeed. Didnt even understand he was dead the first time, made no sense. And it fuck the rest of the story (which, lets be honest, they were going to fuck anyway it looks like, not enough time/budget, the power that be decided to end things). I also fail to see why you cant just shoot a scene or two to at least handle it gracefully.
on the book final ending, its ultimately lib and ad-hoc, but it does raise many interesting questions, and is fitting/satisfying enough.
>>21803oh and I forgot, but I dont get why they made philip shoot his friend rather than some security goon
fuck up the plot and really make him seem like a useless retard
his growing doubts with his father and blood on his hands was way better in the books imo. They should have emphasized more how incompetent marco is long term and the actual guilt of warcrime. You dont get a sudden guilt when picking up chicks and having you friend brag about your role, you get it when you come across the consequences of your actions.
>>21787>When they left to write The Expanse, ASOIF books stopped coming out.well, lets hope they will be able to finish it once the fat one die
>>14090well, yeah, but this is during a super intense high speed chase and fight (which is epic and made my fav bobby moment and top 5 holden the retard moment in the books) and fred is quite a bit older I think. Its also way more ironic in the book, cause both sides are trying to save/kill fred in the first place
>>21801>Alex just… randoly does.>>21803>the excuse is they did it because the actor was removed for legal problems (harassment or smth). But they did handle badly indeed. Didnt even understand he was dead the first time, made no sense. And it fuck the rest of the story (which, lets be honest, they were going to fuck anyway it looks like, not enough time/budget, the power that be decided to end things). I also fail to see why you cant just shoot a scene or two to at least handle it gracefully.The worst part of how shoehorned it was, was it seemed the rest of the crew didn't give a fuck. Like, they were saying "yeah it's sad, but that guy was a sexpest, so don't feel to bad, he had it coming."
>>21803>also, michio pa breakdown/removal was very weirdWhat was also weird was the reveal that Anderson Dawes had an off-screen death with Marco being like "yeah, he annoyed me". First off, that is really out of character for Marcos to just randomly kill people who disagree with him, he usually only does it when they are disobedient towards him. You are not becoming a calculated, respected leader if you are acting like a madman.
Secondly, Dawes was a menace in season one and many people liked him. To just never bring him back and then kill him off off-screen didn't do justice to his role. I guess the actor really went up the A-list after Chernobyl, so they probably couldn't afford him for a side role.
The budget restraints seem weirdly irritating to me. Isn't this supposed to be Jeff Bezos' favorite show who backs it with dumptrucks of money? I really wonder what motive is there for studios to be super strict with budgets when it's a show that blows up globally. GoT had to do six episodes for the final season because of HBO budget restraints despite being the most popular show of all time. Meanwhile, shit like Star Trek: Discovery feels like it's on a Hollywood budget but nobody likes it.
>>22065It's not boring. Season 2 and 3 are some of the best scifi on television that I've watched.
The float fucking is only the first episode
>>22070fuckers tryna game of thrones me
what is the explanation for floatfucking
>>22089game thrones as in show nudity to hook in viewers then abandon it
and i'm asking the canonically the reason for float fucking
lmao imagine a guy being disturbed by float fucking, that's a really funny concept
>>22102The Expanse has pretty much no nudity, it's not a bait to draw you in.
The reason for "float fucking" is because there is zero G but people still wanna have sexual intercourse.
Pretty weird obsession you got there.
>>22104What the fuck? I am curious about a weird scene and wanted an explanation, you're the weird one here calling it an obsession
And I saw 1 second clip of people having sex in the trailer, forgive me for thinking sex involved nudity
>>22106i have no fucking problem
you're the one who keeps MAKING IT SEEM LIKE I HAVE A PROBLEM, JERRY
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHY THE PEOPLE WERE FLOAT FUCKING, JERRY
THAT'S ALL
THAT'S ALL GODDAMN IT
>>22138who is she
i would float fuck her for anytime, any space
>>22299i don't really watch much porn, i am a zoomer who has mostly jacked to it tv and movies
will check out her work later
>>22425>they literally teased things from the last three books even thoughthat's so messed up lol
they did the same thing with floatfucking, glad i didn't get baited
>>36321This but unironically.
Who else can lead? Drummer? Ashford? Drummer got brainwashed and PSYOP'd by Ashford's retarded "violence is bad ok" limp wrist pacifist bullshit and then she didn't even try to avenge his death but just spent time crying in a room and having sex with people who didn't even care that Ashford died. And the show ends with her being a puppet of earth with that dumb transport union shit gee it's like literally nothing changed and she's still going to kill her own people on earth's orders for a nicer salary. socdemry at its finest.
Marco is an egomaniac and psychopath but that's the sort of NKVD mentality the Belters NEED to win and win in a way that's not just "be a puppet of Earth/Mars/etc."
>>36348In the books Earth and Mars become completely dependent on the Transport Union so it was a good step in hindsight.
>NKVDThe Bolsheviks made peace with the German Empire with large concessions.
But yeah I never really understood Drummer's characterization but fans liked her because Cara Gee is hot so they gave her more stuff to do but it's pretty inconsistent.
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