No.1660[Last 50 Posts]
Alright filmfags, show me what you've got.
<S Tier - Timeless
>Tarkovsky: Stalker, Andrei Rublev, Solaris
>Klimov: Come and See
>Bela Tarr: Turin Horse, Werckmeister Harmonies, Satantango (all very demanding)
>Bergman: Persona, Seventh Seal
>Herzog: Aguirre (I love them all but this one stands apart)
>Kubrick: 2001
<A Tier - Food for the soul
>Visconti: The Leopard, Rocco and his Brothers
>Fellini: La Dolce Vita, Amarcord
>De Sica: Bicycle Thieves, Umberto D.
>Pontecorvo: Battle of Algiers
>Cocteau: Orpheus, Blood of a Poet
>Godard: Breathless, Band of Outsiders, The Little Soldier
>Kurosawa: Yojimbo, Throne of Blood, Ran
>Mizoguchi: Sansho, Ugetsu
>Kobayashi: Seppuku, Human Condition
>Fritz Lang: Dr. Mabuse, Metropolis, M
>Bunuel: Discreet Charm, Simon of the Desert, The Exterminating Angel
>Kieslowski: Dekalog
>David Lynch: Anything, including Twin Peaks old and new.
>Ki-duk Kim: Spring, Summer…
>Gilliam: Brazil
>Kubrick (pt. 2): The Shining, Clockwork Orange, Dr. Strangelove, FMJ
<A- Tier - Entertainment
>Cronenberg: Naked Lunch, Dead Ringers
>Billy Wilder: One, Two, Three, Sunset Blvd, Witness for the Prosecution
>Becker: Le Trou, Touchez pas au Grisbi
>Melville: Army of Shadows, Le Cercle Rouge, Bob le Flambeur
>Clouzot: Diabolique, Wages of Fear (the ultimate languagefag film)
>Bresson: A Man Escaped, Pickpocket
>Renoir: The Grand Illusion, Rules of the Game
>Ferrara: Bad Lieutenant, King of NY
>Jodorowsky: The Holy Mountain, Santa Sangre
>Peckinpah: Straw Dogs, Alfredo Garcia
>Woody Allen: Annie Hall. All the other old-and-good ones too.
>Carpenter: The Thing, They Live
>Tarantino: Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs
>Scorsese: Kind of Comedy, Taxi Driver. The rest can kinda fuck off.
>Hitchcock: Pretty much all of them.
Let's talk about movies, then. Don't have to be lefty films but obviously recommendations on that front are also welcome.
No.1661
>>1660>>Scorsese: Kind of Comedy, Taxi Driver. >The rest can kinda fuck off.why tho
No.1663
>>1660I could post a list but it would be so much the inverse of yours that I don't think it would be fruitful discussion.
No.1664
>>1661Bit harsh maybe. He made some other good ones but those two are apart imo.
>>1663Wait, wouldn't that actually make it fruitful tho?
No.1665
>>1663Post it
What did you lads think about the Irishman? Gonna watch it today.
No.1667
>>1664>>1665Ok well alright. I'll just post my IMDB ratings
10 rated:
Network (1976)
Children of Men (2006)
Canadian Bacon (1995)
American Beauty (1999)
The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
Battlestar Galactica (2003)
Untouchable (2011)
Actually never mind, I just realised there's a share list feature, you can press 'sort by: top rated' to see the top stuff.
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur46013471/ratings No.1672
>>1667>Avengers 1 starBased.
No.1673
>>1672I haven't seen any of the capeshit/new Star Wars movies tbh but there was a brief period when Avengers Whatever had a higher score on the top 250 than The Godfather which I think is a travesty… and I don't even like the Godfather.
No.1674
>>1667> The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure (2012)lol what
No.1675
>>1667Network is mega-based. I actually can't believe I forgot Sydney Lumet on my list got dam.
>Sydney Lumet: Network, Death Trap, Dog Day Afternoon.I still haven't seen Children of Men yet but people seem to like it. Will check it soon.
No.1676
Alright so some movies which I'd put in my top ten which people probably haven't seen would be:
Paths of Glory(Surprised nobody knows about it since it's a Kubrik, but it did get buried by the French government for telling French history [i]accurately[/i] COMPLETELY FALSE, THE FRENCH NEVER LOST A WAR!)
Tora Tora Tora(simply because of how accurate it is compared to some *cough* other films)
The Seven Samurai
The Lobster(I have a soft spot for absurdism that manages to tell a play in film format)
The French Connection(nothing revolutionary but it's quite accurate and tells the story it sets out to without convoluting it)
No.1677
>>1674IIRC I voted that because a story came out that they were stuffing their own reviews and scores and that behaviour should be punished. Then I saw it in my list again that I gave it a 1 and thought 'well maybe that's a little harsh'.
No.1678
what's that fucking movie where a woman starts to cry because she can't believe how much less medicine costs in another country than in her own I've been looking for it ever since I saw someone mention that scene all the way back to old 8chan /leftypol/ FUCK which movie is it
No.1691
All right here's my top films:
Come and See
A Boy and his Dog
Reservoir Dogs
Akira
Taxi Driver (hated the ending tho)
Full Metal Jacket
Rango (that one is a real hidden gem)
Super Bad
Libertarias
No.1693
I don’t watch movies that much, but here’re my top 5 anyways:
>Casablanca
>the godfather
>12 angry men
>Joker
>Judgment at Nuremberg
I should probably start watching some soviet films tbh. Even /tv/tards shill for them.
No.1696
>>1693I love 12 Angry Men, tho it is sort of peak liberalism
No.1701
My 5 favorite, probably in this order:
>Paris, Texas
>Sunset Boulevard
>Vertigo
>The Brood
>Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes
Pretty random makeup I guess, but these are the movies I've enjoyed the most so far.
No.1702
>>1676>Paths of GloryLove that one, would be my favorite of Kubrick if it wasn't for Dr Strangelove. The ending of Paths of Glory always strikes an emotional chord inside me, just like It's a wonderful life.
>Network (1976)Mega based.
>I love 12 Angry Men, tho it is sort of peak liberalismYeah, but the film still expresses the best that liberalism gave us. It's really emotive and strong.
No.1703
What are some Soviet kinos?
No.1708
>>1693Tarkovsky GANG
Do yourself a favor and check it out. It's not for everyone and you might not like it, but you have to try.
No.1712
Hey, has anyone seen "parasite" yet?
People keep telling me it's good, but I keep hearing its analysis of class is shit.
Opinions?
No.1713
>>1708>TarkovskyYeah. I’ve just found his stuff on youtube, gonna watch it tonight.
No.1717
I liked The three colours trilogy. Especially Blue even though Red is the better film
No.3275
Currently checking out Kanopy for the first time through my public library. Anyone familiar with their catalogue and have any recommendations, preferably for foreign films? Deep cuts and classics are appreciated. I like French New Wave and Italian Neorealism but have seen most of the big names out of those movements (Godard, Truffaut, De Sica, et al.)
No.3290
Anyone got good and gritty Soviet war films that aren’t Come and See?
No.3450
What is your take on Fight Club? Not class conscious enough? Better than usual? Not enough?
No.4594
The Cranes are Flying is top tier Sovietkino
No.4599
>>1660I just finished reading Roadside Picnic and am about to watch Stalker. Really looking forwards to it, never seen anything by Tarkovsky before.
No.4604
How many fucking film threads are there FFS?
No.4611
>>4599Let us know what you think once you're finished!
No.4622
>>1701>Paris, TexasI always forget this film when thinking of my favourites. A film that knows to take its time and not rely on constant shock and awe is always a pleasure.
No.4626
Всем Русско-говоряшим смотреть!
[BadComedian] - На Париж (#СпасибоДедуЗаШалаву)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OmC1HcTGBc No.4627
>>1713The sound on YouTube is shit, but I guess that comes from the entire restauration that was fucked up by the uploader (the official russian film archive I guess). You can hear that everything was redubbed, the foleys aren't right, etc. Are all versions available on the internet like this? Or should I wait for an obscure festival to have a original analog film projection?
No.4633
No love for Pasolini?
No.4740
>>4633I enjoyed the Decameron. I consider Salo a failed film, and not because of the shock factor. Been a while since I've seen it though.
Which one is your favorite?
No.5002
Who else wants the last Blockbuster in the world to stay? I hope it survives and can be a sort of museum. There were 9,000 of them around the world, but now there is only one left and it's in Oregon.
https://youtu.be/jJMEPHNjHE0 No.5004
>>5002Blockbuster was a fucking legend, back when Netflix was sending CDs in the mail and online movies were unvailable except through Russian hacker torrents and Piratebay. I want that building of Nostalgia to stay up, its a great memory of simpler times.
No.5046
The Soviet war series "liberation" is now on YT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0t5CHhsuaM No.5073
>>1678Perhaps it was Sicko (2007) by Michael Moore?
>A documentary comparing the highly profitable American health care industry to other nations, and HMO horror stories including shotgun deaths.
>Writer/producer Michael Moore interviews Americans who have been denied treatment by our health care insurance companies – companies who sacrifice essential health services in order to maximize profits. The consequences for the individual subscribers range from bankruptcy to the unnecessary deaths of loved ones.
>Moore then looks at universal free health care systems in Canada, France, Britain, and Cuba, debunking all the fears (lower quality of care, poorer compensation for doctors, big-government bureaucracy) that have been used to dissuade Americans from establishing such a system here. The roots of those health care systems are explored, and our failure to establish free health here care is traced to a) President Richard Nixon's deceptive support of the then-emerging HMOs pursuing huge profits and b) subsequent pressures for Congress to sacrifice sound health care in favor of corporate profit.
>A group of Americans who became ill from volunteering at 911 Ground Zero, but were refused health coverage for their illnesses, are ferried by Moore to Cuba, where they receive the top-rate, free care one would hope they'd get here at home.
>In his interviews, historical reportage, and typical sarcastic wit, Moore soundly condemns American health insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies, as well as the politicians who have been paid millions to do their bidding. He makes the case that there is something wrong with Americans that we cannot learn from the successes of other countries in providing better quality-of-health than we enjoy in the USA. No.5074
>>1678>>5073Oh, yeah, I think it definitely is! Here's the scene:
https://youtu.be/j7cME3lCdwE?t=854(that's 14:14 in the video)
I hope you're still around, anon
No.5626
>>5105All I know about midsommar is that some girl ik posted about about it and I hate her so now i dont want to see the movie
No.5630
>>5625For those who don't know the film takes place in Francoist Spain.
No.5637
>>5626I recommend you to watch it, it's great, trust me I'm not the girl you hate.
No.6325
>2 film threads
>both are good quality
<fuckers still post independent OPs for esoteric shit
Pathetic
No.6385
>>6325Brainlets like to feel special.
No.6565
>when the 2 film threads are both on Page 1
LOL
No.10320
>how do you even measure the intellectual level of movies or do you just 'feel' like they are?You measure by how they treat the viewer. As an example, in Captain Marvel there is a scene where she's breaking out of her chains. If the writer thinks the viewer is a retard, they'll add a shot of a side character going "She's breaking out!", which is exactly what they did. For a movie that expects its viewer to be moderately intelligent they'll assume the viewer can pick up on visual clues, like in Alita: Battle Angel (which doesn't require you to be a genius but you'll miss some stuff if you're not paying attention).
This has to do with the changing nature of the film business because of competition from streaming. The number of films released by major studios is down, as are the prospects of mid-budget films
https://www.the-numbers.com/market/ https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/05/is-the-mid-budget-movie-an-endangered-species The studios are competing by betting on epic big budget films, much as they did in the sixties in their first battle with television. They also have the advantage of playing about as well everywhere in the world.
So, when you're spending 200 million on a single film, your focus is going to be on making sure the investment pays off, not innovation or art. That's why nearly all big movies are adaptations, reboots or sequels and why they're all so samey. The Marvel films in particular have hit upon a very efficient formula. Modern information technology has allowed media companies to narrow down the most safe and profitable content in media produced today.
They almost always have generic plots. And the epic ending is usually either battling thousands of faceless drones or fighting a villain who monologues every time the fight is about to transition, the serious hero says something serious, the jokey hero says a quip, then they generically fight some more, then something something sky beam does shit, the villain gets arrogant because the plan is working, then the hero says the final quip and the villain makes an “oh shit” face then dies.
Avengers, Age of Ultron, Infinity War, Thor Ragnarok, both Guardian of the Galaxy movies, Endgame and Black Panther to name just a few marvel movies all do this.
The reason this slides and is liked is because they don't know nor understand alternatives of the past or future. People have no hope so they look up to mythological tales set in modern era and the destruction takes place which one might enjoy in a nihilistic way. It very much reflects many more simple hero-stories of Greek Mythology, however lacking the counterbalances in the form of tales of Oedipus, Orpheus and Phersephone, the Illiad and Hercules' labours. These criticized many aspects of over-powered Greek heroes like Theseus, who just win at everything and are smarter and stronger than anyone they meet.
This reflects Adorno's laments on cultural decay and machinization, in his theory of social spectacle and the resulting industry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-m_7G31yh4 I wonder from time to time if Adorno and the other Frankfurts were purposefully targeted as conspirators specifically because cultural degradation has always been a reactionary racket, and the right didn't want competition from the left in the marketplace. After all, the CIA has literally admitted to helping this along, with people like Gloria Steinhem being their direct assets as well as Ghettofication and subsequent thug subculture after revolutionary leaders were removed and replaced by angry liberals.
>https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/how-the-cia-created-gangsta-rap.701728/ >https://newspunch.com/cia-hip-hop/ >https://daily.jstor.org/was-modern-art-really-a-cia-psy-op/ No.10321
>>10320there is nothing wrong with pouring beer on your tits
No.10324
>>16531
I've seen this, but so long ago that I've forgotten the actual movie. Imma watch later. Maybe respond
No.13797
>>1712its very good and not as on the nose as a lot of the praise and detraction might make you think.
No.13799
Been really into Pasolini lately, recently watched Arabian Nights and Salo or 120 Days of Sodom. Both were masterpieces, though I'm not sure Arabian Nights would resonate with someone who hasn't read the source before.
No.13819
A lot of old stuff here, I will try to give a list of recent directors (alongside two films) and draw a hardline at the millenium (though most are within the decade).
Flannel blanket with hot cocoa tier:
> Jim Cummings: Thunder Road, The Wolf Of Snow Hollow
> Kantamir Balagov: Beanpole, Closeness
> Jonathon Glaser: Under The Skin, Birth, Sexy Beast
> Nuri Bilge Ceylan: Winter's Sleep, Once Upon A Time In Anatolia
> Thomas Clay: Fanny Lye Deliver'd, The Great Ecstasy Of Robert Carmichael
Fluffy quilt tier:
> Peter Strickland: In Fabric, the Duke Of Burgundy
> Richard Ayoade: Submarine, The Double
> Park Chan Wook: I'm A Cyborg And That's Ok, The Handmaiden
> Yorgos Lanthimos: Dogtooth, The Lobster
> Quentin Dupieux: Wrong, Rubber
Decent Blanket Tier:
> Jeff Nichols: Take Shelter, Midnight Special
> John Cameron Mitchell: Hedwig and the Angry Inch, How To Talk To Girls At Parties
> Darren Aronofsky: Black Swan, The Fountain
> Ben Wheatley: A Field In England, Kill List
> Panos Cosmatos: Mandy, Beyond The Black Rainbow
> Daniel Scheinert: The Death Of Dick Long, Swiss Army Man
Honourable mentions to some filmmakers still at it but also span back a while so I didn't include above:
Peter Greenaway: Eisenstein In Guanajuato, Drowning By Numbers
Mike Leigh: Peterloo, Naked
No.13820
>>13819Please, kinophile anons, could you tell me what's so great about the film Rubber?
I got curious about it ike 5 years ago, but never to to actually watching it
No.13821
>>13820Would you like a pretentious essay or the truth? Because to be honest I just found it funny and liked that it took plot turns I didn't expect it to while the on screen audience reacted basically how various people I know would react to the movie.
No.13822
>>13821Yeah that's fine. It it's genuinely funny and doesn't get repetitive I'll watch it.
No.13824
are there any geiger alien movies besides the first two that are worth watching?
No.13876
Has anyone watched the movie King Charles III?
What did you make of it?
Here it is for those who are interested:
https://vimeo.com/445148461 No.14062
>>14059looks like some fed glowie shit ngl.
No.14234
Everyday this scorsese guy whines about muh art form
They make millions and weep for the imaginary indie director or some shit
Why can't these old directors shut the fuck up with their pile of money.
Film is not a important cultural issue to be talking about in pop culture. Pretentious rich cunts should die off.
I hate every director with a passion, They are high off their own asses
No.14235
Watched À Bout de Souffle (1960) last night after checking out La Chinoise (1967), liking the latter but being too tired to finish it.
My god, I fucking hated À Bout de Souffle - they say La Chinoise isn't "good" as a first Godard because it represents a pretty big departure from classic French New Wave toward a more purely didactic style, but I actually found that more innovative, engaging and daring than the self-absorbed meaninglessness of À Bout de Souffle. That surface-level conversation, that smugly style-over-substance attitude, those insufferable midwit main characters, is that just what the French New Wave usually is or am I totally missing something? Or are there other films by Godard that simply evolve the same style in a more interesting direction (I've heard good things about Vivre Sa Vie [1962])?
No.14678
>>1660The first film I'll contribute is Stanley Kubrick's Barry Lyndon, here's a video showcasing some of its best shots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcLZU3_XNMo. It's not just visually beautiful, it's a great drama, every scene is captivating and the protagonist Redmond Barry (later, Barry Lyndon) is relatable and multi-dimensional. The acting is great, the cinematography is amazing. It's a little bit long at over 3 hours, but you don't ever feel like Kubrick wasted time or included filler. Silent moments are full of meaning, which is communicated by the environment or by the actions of the characters of the scene. Go watch it, it's great.
No.14679
>>1660>>14678Elia Kazan's A Face in the Crowd is an engaging drama that explores the cost of fame, and at the same time criticizes the media industry for it. Andy Griffith's performance is legendary and elevates the film into a must-watch. It isn't beautiful like Barry Lyndon, but it has good cinematography, dramatic scenes make good use of shadows and camera motion. The actors, especially Andy Griffith, express an impressive amount of emotion through facial expressions alone. Must-watch if you enjoy dramas.
BTW I know that the director Elia Kazan is kind of anathema to leftists b/c of his testimony to HUAC but at the same time this movie has a redeeming theme in its criticism of the culture industry. One of my favorite films ever.
No.14680
>>14679Thought I should add that it's a lot more than just a criticism of the culture industry, it criticizes racism, sexism, the sexualization of minors, and elitism, among others
No.14681
>>14235Agree tbh. A bout de souffle is the beginning, and imo the evolution of Godard during the new wave period is what made him compelling as a director moreso than any particular film. Have you seen Le Mépris (1963) or Pierrot le fou (1965)? You can feel the evolution in motion very keenly in both of those and it's very engaging.
If you liked La Chinoise I'd recommend Tout va bien (1972). It has a coherent narrative structure and a far less cynical dialogue/consideration of the left while remaining unabashedly experimental. If I do have a favorite movie of his, it's probably this one.
No.14682
>>14678>>14679Based. Two classics I've missed but heard about. You've definitely sold me on both. I'll report here when I've seen them!
No.14700
This is a music video, but it uses scenes from a very beautiful 1973 dutch movie called Turks Fruits
https://youtu.be/ksEHfUof184 No.15457
>>13941Ah yes, give one of your main characters a face contraption that makes it really hard to understand what he's saying
No.15474
>Klimov: Come and See
Out of all soviet films you had to pick this one. Plebean taste.
No.15479
>>15478Kinda missed that. The thing is, it doesn't change what is said. Those films are pretty meh or even shit compared to what soviet cinema can offer. Unless you are some fart-sniffin liberal
No.15483
>>15479How about you post the "best ones" then, comrade of impeccable taste?
No.15486
>>15483Чапаев, Великий Гражданин, Доживем до понедельника, Премия, Кин-дза-дза.
If we also add TV series then Вечный зов and Тени исчезают в полдень.
Plenty of ther ones.
No.15489
>>15486It's a start, I'll check em out. Thanks.
No.15490
>>15489I am not sure they have translation or subs to english though.
No.15616
Any Soviet (or Russian) WW2 movie recommendations? Other than Come and see.
No.15655
>>5624Because Ken Loach is one of the few prominent Western relics of social realist, explicitly left-wing filmmaking. As modern cinema got increasingly co-opted by liberals and their post-modern views on narratology and art, every movie that is deemed as "having a message" is either banal, surface-level drivel or purposefully ambiguous, preferring meta-commentary and stylistic expression to telling an actual story, honest-to-god story about the working class.
No.15697
Give me the most depressing film. Not something cheap and moralizing but something that crushes your soul no matter how numb or already disadvantaged you are.
No.15841
1. Bram Stoker's Dracula( Coppola)
2. Ray Got His Gun
3. Hell comes to Frogtown
4. Speedracer( Wachowsky siblings )
5. Star Wars Prequel Trilogy
6. Norah( Aronovsky)
No.15850
>>15697"Antichrist" (Von Trier) would fit that description fairly well imo.
No.15852
>>14059watched it, pretty good
No.15876
>>1667>Battlestar Galactica (2003)Such a good fucking show
No.15966
>>15959I don't know anything about that theory. I only know that Tommy Wiseau had seemingly endless amounts of money and won't tell where he got it from.
No.16058
>>1660Trying to figure out how you managed to not include the Coen borthers.
Also Hitchcock has plenty of excellent films, but when you make over 50 films some of them are duds. Saboteur (1942) is the big one for me
No.16080
>>15966>>15966>Tommy Wiseau had seemingly endless amounts of money and won't tell where he got it from.who wants to make Tommy Wiseau a communist
No.16095
>>16094woah he lived in the eastern bloc
No.16276
>>16272Yes. Air Force One is the tragic tale of how a hero of the Soviet Union was struck down by the American imperialists and their Yeltsinite lapdogs. But there is hope since the Kazakh SSR continues to exist with its nuclear arsenal even at the end of the film.
No.16345
>>15697Naked by Mike Leigh
It's depressing because it never stop being grimier, and it became soul-crushing to me when
I realized the main character was just a psychopathic pseud, there was nothing profound in all his ramblings, his nihilistic posture is his own way to bully the people around him No.16346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g78ELzCaOfAI liked the trailer of this move recently
It reminded me of previews while being in theater during intermissions
No.16360
>>16283I GOTTA WATCH THIS FILM HOLY SHIT
No.16369
>>15697Testament of 1983, without a doubt. It's the story about how a family in a Norman Rockwell style close-knit rural town tries to survive the aftermath of an all-out nuclear war. There is no bombing scene, no mushroom cloud, no political context - just a series of bright flashes, the power goes out, never comes back on, and everyone is left to die of starvation and radiation sickness.
Threads is shocking, but
Testament is slow, hopeless despair.
No.16408
>>16345I wish I could find more movies like it becaause it really made me think about how i act towards everyone
No.16425
>>16367what's a woo woo
>https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=44066510install qbittorrent if you already don't have
it has a search engine built in
No.16441
>>16425Woos Woos is WSWS/World Socialist Web Site
>it has a search engine built inNot that anon but I installed it yesterday and you need to install search engines for each torrent site. Any recommendations and where can I get them?
No.16464
>>16367>>16425I just watched
Miss Marx, thanks for the torrent link. Here's my review:
Well, WoosWoos wasn't wrong. Eleanor Marx's political life is almost entirely kept out of view in favor of her personal relationships with her family and Edward Aveling. After bizarre title credits mutilated in After Effects and set to punk rock, the film begins with a (fictional) eulogy by Eleanor at Karl Marx's funeral, which sets the tone for the rest of the drama: "[Karl and Jenny] never doubted, they never faltered, and they were faithful until death". Immediately after the funeral Eleanor is hit up by Edward Aveling (not present historically), which kicks off a relationship much rockier than the one she just described. What follows is a plodding romantic drama wherein Eleanor struggles to reconcile with Edward's sexual infidelity and profligate spending.
Like I said before, Eleanor's political activities are usually kept in the background as literal set dressing. WoosWoos (of course) denounces the film's "feminist outlook", but this the only trace of this comes from the one sole feminist speech shown in the trailer. I had thought for sure that Eleanor's confrontation with Ernest Belfort Bax would be portrayed. Bax was a leading Marxist theorist with rhetoric similar to today's Men's Rights Activist movement; as an open opponent of women's suffrage he provoked an incensed Eleanor Marx to challenge him to a public debate (Bax refused). Bax is nowhere to be seen, nor any other major figures from the British socialist movement. Instead, the climactic event in the story is a (fictional) deathbed revelation from Engels that Karl Marx was the real father of Freddy Demuth, therefore exposing that her father was just as deceitful as Aveling. (The "Marx's illegitimate son" theory is probably not true, see
https://www.marxists.org/subject/marxmyths/terrell-carver/article.htm)
I have a few more things to nitpick: first, practically none of the figures portrayed in the film are recognizable compared to their historic photographs. This can be forgiven for the lead roles, but a little extra makeup would go a long way for fans of the Marxist Cinematic Universe to spot cameos in the background, like Liebknecht, Bernstein, etc. Second, while all the actors give decent performances, the script is flawed. It waters down the political content and adds exposition (IE, no family nicknames like "Mohr" and "The General"), but apparently not enough to appease general critics. On the flipside of this the Marxist audience is slighted, the characterization of Engels for example feels completely wrong. Enough things have been changed for dramatic license that I don't trust the characterization of Eleanor to be "real". Finally, the anachronistic punk rock soundtrack is cringeworthy every single time it shows up. The absolute worst scene is the inexplicable dance sequence at the end, which - apparently - symbolizes the moment Eleanor decided to end her life.
Overall score: 1.5/4 stars. TL;DR: plodding romantic drama devoid of political content that fails both as entertainment and as a historic biopic. Skip unless you're really bored.
No.16467
>>16464>Marxist Cinematic Universe lol
I hope they showed engles speech on marx's funeral
>the characterization of Engels for example feels completely wrongYOO HE'S ACTUALLY IN THE MOVIE?!??
>Eleanor Marx's political life is almost entirely kept out of view you say it is kept out of view but here in the excerpt it looks pretty clear front and center, is this the only instance of it? and I see what you mean by "using the political activities as literal set dressing"
No.16470
>>16467>I hope they showed engles speech on marx's funeralUnfortunately, no. Although thinking about it reminds me of his characterization again, the Engels shown in the movie could never deliver that famous speech.
>YOO HE'S ACTUALLY IN THE MOVIE?!??Not as an essential role but yes, he has a few scenes. Pic related is him in the movie.
>you say it is kept out of view but here in the excerpt it looks pretty clear front and center, is this the only instance of it?Pretty much yes. There is a montage style scene showing her day-to-day political work that I excerpted from, then one more speech that implies Aveling's abuse inspired Eleanor to become a feminist. This biopic of a famous revolutionary has maybe five minutes worth of political content.
No.16476
i've never watched network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJcwhat is this speech about
is it the corporate character going full "capitalism is everything, there is no idpol" type speech
i can't be arsed to listen to the entire thing
No.16477
>>16476Watch the movie, it's even on the /leftypol/ reading list AND a top movie of all time.
If you don't have time or are a lazy bastard:
The main character, news anchor Howard Beale, suffered a mental breakdown and rants about the world being shit. His jaded boss lets it air because "it's the truth", and instead of being fired, Beale becomes start of a televangelist-like show. He has delusions of being a prophet, and at one point he learns about and preaches against how the TV station's conglomerate parent is about to be sold to the Saudis. A chairman of the conglomerate, Arthur Jensen (Ned Beatty), then brings him to a room and performs this speech to manipulate him into preaching his "corporate cosmology", similar to what you said, a 'money is the quantum of life today, there aren't nations or peoples, just money', which he claims will someday bring a post-warfare, post-scarcity, post-mortal utopia. (The "why me?" back and forth at the end verbatim mirrors what Beale claimed God had said to him in an earlier scene) No.16478
>>16477so what exactly is the movie about
No.16479
>>16478Literally? Read the wikipedia synopsis.
Thematically? A satire of television corporate media in general, in particular profit-over-morals, media circus, media desensitization and dehumanization.
No.16554
what is the ideology/story of citizen kane?
i've never watched it
No.16590
>>16588who the fuck is this orange uhyga and why the fuck is he everywhere
No.16856
https://twitter.com/johencho/status/1407076394652225549I don't get it
Why is everybody saying the boyfriend from Devil Wears Prada was bad and the villain?
From where I see it, He was the right one. She was becoming too bougie and he maturely left her
No.17906
why do people like boogie nights
from the wikipedia film summary it sounds like just another story about rags to riches than to rags again because of sex and drugs story
is it the dialogue and acting that's good about it? because it sure doesn't sound the like the story is anything special.
No.17908
>>16980No, should we ? what is it about ?
No.17911
>>17906It was good / fresh for its time, but it aged like milk imo. Saw it when I was young and even back then I realized it's a shit film.
No.17912
>>17911reading the letterboxd reviews made me think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, i felt insane
somebody quoted a line from the movie and it was the goofiest shit imaginable. something out of cartoon. but they wrote up so much fluff on how great the movie is.
sometimes i feel like people just keep this long prank going on where they praise a thing because others are praising it too just to keep some random semblance of status quo going on
do you remember anything else about watching it in theatres? it's been a long while since i've been in one
recount anything if you can
No.17934
2001 like most of Kubrick's work is overrated garbage
Some of my favorites:
> Chinatown> Solaris / (Mirror, Stalker)> Vertigo/ (Rear View, Psycho)> Salo, or 120 Days of Sodom> Akira>>16477Network is garbage and the director is a Proudhonist
and an actual Zionist - his Marxist hateboner is apparent too.
accelerationAcceleration No.17936
>>17934What's so bad about Kubrick
No.17938
>>16472It's the same shit as every other "girlboss" movie coming out in the past decade - generic, ironically sexist to both men and women and disgustingly stupid.
No.17941
>>17936I just think he's an overrated hack with above-average shots. Eyes Wide Shut is good, but I fucking hate everything else he's made especially 2001 - and its insulting to put him next to actual auteurs like Polanski/Tarkovsky/Ozu etc
accelerationAcceleration No.17942
>>15697Груз 200
Awful film (see
>>10107 ) but made in such a way that it leaves you black inside - I only recommend if you like being suicidal.
>>15616А Зори Здесь Тихий
Отец Солдата
Они Срожались За Родину
В Бой Идут Одни Старики
Освобождение
Аты Баты Шли Солдаты
Жаворонок (1965)
>>13798 Try Archive.is, the site must have made itself PPV
No.17945
>>17934The director is anarchist?
Why does he hate marxists
>>17936Speaking of Kubrick what did that furry oral sex in the Shining mean?
It's so fucking weird and confusing
No.17946
>>16470why is my mans looking like dr.frasier claus
No.17954
>>17951It was a garbage film but despite him being portrayed as an idiot, The Captain was the best character in the movie.
Also
>Tattooing "Karl Marx" on your knuckles is a weird thing to do even for a communist More than weird, it was something Prisoners would tattoo in the GULAG to mock communists.
No.17958
>>17945Ah sry the screenwriter I meant,I actually like the director (mash is great which he also dirrcted) but the screenwriter was a Zionist socdem (his words) but his vision is essentially proudhonist if you watch the film.
accelerationAcceleration No.17964
>>17954>More than weird, it was something Prisoners would tattoo in the GULAG to mock communists.wtf how does that mock the communists
did they think they would escape out and beat the communists with their fists thus being ironic?
No.18003
>>17951What film is that? I don't watch Marvel.
No.18011
>>17964well yes that irony is a part of it, but frankly it' a bit hard to explain Russian prison life, myself being aware of it only through people I knew who were there. It's similar to people tattooing religious figures and other stuff on themselves in prison there, there is a double meaning within the criminal world, that only criminals really know, like the origins of their nicknames and such.
>>18003The Black Widow movies, basically it's that shitty Red Sparrow but less graphic and with bad humor thrown in.
No.18361
Best Laid Plans is forgotten kino. IMHO
No.18412
>>1660I watched Aguirre the other day; great film.
egoismEgoism No.18426
Anyone seen picrel? It has some pretty good reviews.
It's a chinese movie about communist spies that received training in the Soviet Union doing a job over at the puppet state of Manchuko.
Trailer:
https://youtu.be/dlQYk0O56HU No.18493
>>18426 (me)
I've watched it, and it's a very good spy movie. At the beginning, we see one of the communists spilling out details about the operation to avoid being shot, but our four protagonists don't know about it. The operation is kaput from the start, which makes sure the movie is always tense. All of the spies are smart, making moves to withhold/extract information from others. This feels exactly like what a spy movie should feel.
Unfortunately, I can't say I enjoyed the movie to it's fullest. There were moments where I couldn't absorb new information fast enough. All the characters wear the same clothes, which did not make things easier, plus I find remembering their names quite hard. A character/event flowchart would be a welcome companion while watching it.
From what I've been able to research, this is actually a prequel to the 2012 tv show "悬崖" (Cliff) by the same writer, Quan Yongxian. In an interview (
https://inf.news/entertainment/bd5332246260958e06dc8ead644ec3da.html), he said that in 2015 he had written the script for this prequel as a 60-episode show.
If this had been a tv show – or even a book –, where things could flow in a more friendly pace, this would've been a absolute must watch. Overall, it is a very good movie, and I recommend anyone interested to watch it, even though you'll scratch your head sometimes and may wish to rewind a bit to understand what is happening (though I didn't, and was still able to enjoy it very much).
No.18501
>>18429Everything I know about Soul Plane, I learned from The Boondocks.
No.18538
Anyone seen L'An 01?
>The film narrates a utopian abandonment, consensual and festive of the market economy and high productivity. The population decides on a number of resolutions, beginning with "Let's stop everything," and the second "After a period of total stoppage, let's bring back — reluctantly — just the services and products we can't do without. Probably : water to drink, electricity for reading at night, the radio to say 'This is not the end of the world, this is Year 1, and now a page of Celestial Mechanics." The implementation of these resolutions is the first day of a new era, Year 1. L'An 01 is emblematic of the challenge of the 1970s and covers such diverse topics as ecology, negation of authority, free love, communal living, rejection of private property and labor.
No.18540
Have no idea whether to watch the 90s Treasure Island movie first or read the book first
might also watch the 50s version and Muppets version after just out of curiousitypiratePirate
No.18882
Ayy montecellos (New word I just invented)
Is Godzilla vs King Kong a fun movie fully to watch?
I don't mean like are there 2 minutes of good fights and comedy
Is the entire experience fun to watch?
Is it plagued by the same problems of the other monsterverse movies where the human characters are utterly boring?
No.18883
>>18429I'll watch this
It looks like there'll be boobs innit
No.18958
I hate the only theatres shit so much.
I want to pirate Free Guys and watch it when it comes out not 6 months after. I liked the forced digital shit HBO did
If we weren't living in capitalism. This wouldn't even be a problem. We would still have theatres for the culture without forcefully releasing first only on theatres for muh economy.
No.18973
>>18958try Kinogo.la, thy have all the versions of nearly every film and tv series from all sorts of countries and can be downloaded
No.18974
>>18882>Is Godzilla vs King Kong a fun movie fully to watchThere's a good review of the movie from a cinematographical perspective on the /m/ thread on
>>>/anime/ It's a fun, cheesy but generally silly movie, so maybe not to your tastes.
No.18980
>>18973Thanks for the new piracy site
>>18974And Thanks for the review. I feel like I can enjoy this movie.
No.18985
>>18980>I can enjoy this movieI certainly did, and I'm glad to help both with the review and the site.
No.19340
What's the best version of Les Miserables?
No.19349
>>17934>>17945>>18011Death of the author, bitch! The politics or intent of the creator are irrelevant in mainstream mass media
No.19397
>>10320Someone screencap this effort post
No.20584
>>20577carpenter was a paleo libertarian or something
No.20840
Any good East German movies around 1930s-ww2? I've watched the Thalmann movie and Ich War Neunzehn.
No.21005
Who here /cassavetes/ ? Bout to watch my first tonight. Love Streams (1984)
No.21007
>>16479You forgot the part about the militant black leftist organization and the absurdity of capitalist media recuperating revolutionary ideas.
I feel that was a big part of it.
No.22356
>>13941Xi Jinping and Jack Ma holding a friendly conversation
No.22961
https://letterboxd.com/film/desert-blues/anybody know where i can find this movie?
No.22964
>>16345it literally starts off with him raping a woman in an alley
that should've made it crystal clear
No.22965
Top 5, no particular order
>Salo
>Caché (Haneke)
>Trainspotting
>Bronson
>Institute Benjamenta
No.24826
>>24825>Foundation for Economic EducationAre they chinlets?
No.24827
>>24826Most of them are, BUT the video I posted is actually an interesting analysis from a market perspective and doesn't have anything dissing leftism or socialism or whatever. I don't agree with the entire video BUT it makes a good point on intersectional feminism and the victim-blaming that Hollywood does.
No.24829
>>24826Literal Mises stans, but sometimes they get things right.
No.25578
>>24825>a great deal of contempt for millions of americanswould be based if true
No.25756
is this RRR movie actually good or is it just viral marketing
i don't get it, is it even crazier than bollywood movie or is its story/acting good that's the draw?
No.25757
>>25756idk maybe watch it
No.25761
>>25758his movies were inspired by the italian version of pulp fiction
how did you not realize it was schlock
No.25762
>>25757no way
that's fucked up, watching a movie?
what is this, a film general
No.25766
>>25763he got pussy instead of blowing up rich industrialists
still a W, I guess
No.25827
>>25825what movie will todd howard rip off this time?
there's nothing left, is there
the king of comedy, taxi driver
No.25834
>>25825>Did anyone ask for this?the higherups,you can't make money out of a movie without making sequels until it no longer makes money.
No.25835
>>25834Silence of The Lambs crossed with It.
No.25840
>>25825Joker 2: The Punchline
No.25888
Is american psycho the most materialist movie of our time?
No.25889
>>25834This is why the dark knight returns was such a memefest, the writer thought of as rises as the conclusion of the story but was made to put out anything, anything, for the third movie
No.25895
>>25825Maybe it is about the batman but instead of a caped hero hes a bateman who brutalizes random people thinking theyre super villains?
No.25924
how dyou guys find movies? You just watch everything from a given director, happen to hear about another, and repeat, or what?
No.25926
>>25825Apparently the sequel's about him meeting Harley Quinn, probably so we can get a spinoff Harley Quinn movie and the Joker Cinematic Universe.
No.25927
>>25926Hopefully we will finally get an unironic femcel representation.
No.25938
>>25926it's gonna be a musical
what movies are they take inspiration from
>>25924letterboxd, the site i watch movies from, social media
i have like 300 movies on my watchlist, there's loads and loads of ways to find movies
there's also facts about movies, actors and film and inspirations from stuff you've already watched
No.25941
>>25924imdb, repertory cinemas, dvd/blu-ray releases and catalogues
kino lorber, re:voir and criterion are good places to start
>>25938don't use letterboxd, it's full of american college students and terrible for finding the good shit since most people focus on absolute garbage and schlock
No.26319
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2022/04/dog-day-afternoon-liz-eden-littlejohn-basso-al-pacino-trans-historyDog Day Afternoon
Idk what marxist shit there is to analyse in film but there's something that's said in this article
No.27007
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ari_Aster>Ari Aster (born July 15, 1986) is an American film director, screenwriter, and producer. He is best known for writing and directing the A24 horror films Hereditary (2018), Midsommar (2019), and Disappointment Blvd. (2023). >best known for directing a movie that isn't out yetis this guy a fucking plant or what
No.27056
>>27007>AA> Aster then followed up with a breakout short film The Strange Thing About the Johnsons, which stars Billy Mayo, Brandon Greenhouse, and Angela Bullock as members of a suburban family in which the son is involved in an abusive incestuous relationship with his father.Imagine being gay with your dad is real
No.27060
>>26983y would ken be an incel?
No.27239
>>27007>>27033Midsommar started out so good then just ended completely retarded. I know people acting retarded and not being suspicious of obvious suspicious stuff is a staple of the slasher genre, but still, it went from classy horror flick to B movie horror shlock. Maybe even worse because every single person acted retarded and unaware right up to the moment they were killed. You'd expect at least a couple of the people in the movie to catch on eventually. Seemed like he was just too lazy to film someone getting chased through the woods or something.
No.27247
>>27239midsommar was made in only a few months iirc, and a lot of people involved including the director regretted how it turned out
No.27533
Have I got a double bill for you.
Don't look them up, go in cold. Watch in this order:
Winstanley (1975)
Fanny Lye Deliver'd (2019)
Start your torrents.
No.27537
>>27533thanks man, now i have plans for tonight
No.27541
>>27537Do it. We can post at each other tomorrow.
No.27551
>>27550pretty sure it's a gusano movie about Fidel's daughter Alina who rebels against all the awful communism and remains an anti-communist activist to this day
No.27552
>>27550Race and LGBT stuff will probably take main focus if it's a drama and if it's a comedy then "commies bad and dumb". Otherwise may wind up getting scrapped and never made.
No.27553
>>27551>Alina who rebels against all the awful communism and remains an anti-communist activist to this dayI hope the US is at least paying her well.
No.27584
>>27550All casting controversy aside, they are probably gonna do it in English, so what's the point?
All in all, it seems like a shitty project, as the other anon pointed about it just sounds like gusano propaganda.
Pic related was at least pretty well made.
No.27611
>>27549As if it wasn't obvious enough it was going to be a piece of shit. Unless they have some genius idea, this will be up there as one of the most unnecessary sequels ever.
>>27550>>27609I wonder how much they want to do this based on Death of Stalin being praised. I mean it's James Franco lol. IDK how they'd try to make him do a serious biopic. He does vaguely look similar to Fidel but he's a gringo and Fidel is definitely way outside his acting range. Huge miscast that suggests it's going to be mocking Castro.
No.27623
>>27622Movies just keep getting better, the future is bright kinobros
No.27625
>>27622Whatever happned in the early 2000's?
No.27629
>>27625proliferation of independent news others and review sources that aren't economically beholden to studios and related corporations for survival
No.27663
>>27583Ohhh yes, that's the one! Thank you!
No.27664
How do you feel about Jordan Peele so far? A lot of people here are probably turned off by how kainstream he was from the get-go. Get Out was good though white liberals don't seem to get that it's about them and their racism. I'm not even sure what Us was supposed to be about (MKULTRA maybe?). Nope is probably the best of his films so far in delivering a coherent message to the audience (it's very Debordian).
No.27665
>>27664In this climate anybody who's kind of unique and gets the auteur license to do whatever without having to mold it into what's considered marketable is preferable to the standard.
No.27666
>>27664it’s just horror schlock
No.27667
>>27629LMFAO literally the opposite
actual independent news sources have their own cash flows that are clearly not coming from the movie industry, meanwhile randos on the internet could easily be hired shills and trolls
No.27672
>>27666Nope is barely even horror, it's more of a thriller with some horror and neo-western elements
No.27977
>>27976Is he a "hipster" or does he just have a very particular taste for disgusting pervert movies
No.27985
>>27976I love TGTBTU, but it's hardly a masterpiece of the medium.
No.28047
>>27603STOP POSTING JANCSÓ MOVIES. After seeing 1 Jancsó movie, you have seen every single one of them. No narrative, no coherence, all symbolism. You know what's every single Jancsó movie is like?
>empty fucking field>people talking>they start to sing>a soldier comes into the frame>a woman strips nakedAll of this is in a single ~5 minute frame, because the director likes dumping narrative elements in front of a camera instead instead of actually using them to create a narrative. No cutting, that might force Jancsó to arrange the things happening in front of the camera in an orderly way. You can't just have that, you mustn't make a movie comprehendable to humans, because you know, that's not "artistic" and shit. For roughly half a century, the taxpayer money of decent Hungarian working people was wasted on this shit. For the most part this took place under the leadership of a "communist" government. This really tells you a lot about how serious was the committment of Hungarians to communism (the same is true about progress in general and human decency).
No.28050
You are not the chosen brother, Eli.. t’was Paul, who’s chosen. You see, he found me and told me about your land, you’re a fraud. I did what your brother couldn’t. I broke you and I beat you. It was Paul who told me about you, he’s the prophet. He’s the smart one. He knew what was there, he found me, to take it out of the ground, and you know what the funny thing is? Listen, listen, listen… I paid him 10 thousand dollars, cash in hand [slap] just like that. He has his own company now… a prosperous little business, three wells producing 5 thousand dollars a week. [chinless whimper heard] STOP CRYING, YOU SNIVELLING ASS, STOP YOUR NONSENSE. You’re just a afterbirth, Eli… that slithered up your mother’s filth. They should’ve put you in a glass jar on a mantlepiece. Where were you when Paul was suckling at his mother’s teat, where were you? Who was nursing you, poor Eli?
No.28051
>>28050Eli Sunday* got him mixed up with the cartoonist
No.28052
>>28047>what's every single Jancsó movie is like?<describes an obtuse falsificationI don't even like Jancsó but you're being disingenuous.
No.28656
Maybe you guys already know but there's a cool YT channel that's been uploading Russian (mostly Soviet) movies in full for free. And it seems legit so it shouldn't be taken down cause commie movies == no copyright, I guess??
https://www.youtube.com/c/Mosfilm_eng No.28661
>>28656I kiss you on the mouth
No.28662
>>28656Mosfilm has been uploading full length movies from their old catalogue on YouTube for a while, although only in 480p standard definition. They started uploading the full HD versions this year I guess cuz of the sanctions over the invasion. There's also this
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTKpdDNg-FgqRDg7TbIOgoQ No.28756
why is the Telugu version of RRR so hard to find
No.29117
We still posting favourite films? Here's a few anyway:
The Ninth Configuration
The End of Evangelion
Alien
Predator
LoTR trilogy
The Ninth Configuration is a wonderful film which always puts me in a contemplative mood, and End of Evangelion (and the tv series) spoke to me more as a depressed uni student than any other piece of media ever has.
No.29119
Where to get an industry insider's breakdown on the financing and and making of a film like 3000 years of longing?
It seemed really interesting for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual film. which was basically expensive travelogue gloss.
Any good film industry insider pod recs?
No.29121
>>28656yts.mx has a little known feature that allows sorting by language and imdb rating ie it allows listing of every russian film by imdb rating, or release date, or genre. All other world cinema too. It's an affliction tbh because there is no excuse for watching capeshit when all that quality is so available and well seeded.
I did a search for lo fi sci fi on letterboxd. Some really quality Russian films from all eras. Just on a different level to something like the total waste of time that is Deus.
No.29128
>>29121yifi has done so much for film preservation
i see so many movies that i wouldn't have found anywhere else if they weren't seeding it
like daltry calhoun
No.29193
>>29182 The film is unoriginal trash that steals the premise of an existing Soviet film and inserts holly-wood bombastic decoration.
>>29187 >Orson Welles being intensely arrogant yet calling someone quiet and unassuming to be arrogant >muh ChaplinGuy really had a bug up his ass because people only remember him for Citizen Kane and transformers, apparently.
No.29194
>>29193Don't think he gave too much of a shit about people 'remembering' him from transformers since it came out about a year after he died.
No.29199
>>29193Orson Welles was openly arrogant, while Woody Allen hid it behind a timid, "self-deprecating" mask
No.29200
BTW it comes from this
https://www.vulture.com/2013/06/orson-welles-lunch-with-henry-jaglom.html which is just excerpted from a book "My Lunches With Orson: Conversations Between Henry Jaglom and Orson Welles" by Peter Biskind
No.29201
>>29193wait what , he was in transformers??!?
>>29200Do we have a pirated copyRIP Mr.Wells
No.29203
>>29182Is it actually based or is it just Russian nationalist garbage like all WW2 movies made in Russia after 1991
No.29244
>>29203After sitting through a lifetime of western imperialist garbage it's such a breath of fresh air to see the nationalist garbage put out by other countries.
Recent Chinese war movies have been just fucking top. Lots of themes of group co-operation with top, top technical kino.
Plenty of nationalist Russian war film post 91 is good too. You don't like hearing your stories from the opposite perspective anon?
Seperately, look at what the right are cutting into movie trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWXiku8xFnM No.29247
OK normies, here's a list of goodies moovies i guess
>10/10
City of God, Hard Candy, Drive(haha yeah bro really funny drive reference), In Bruges, Akira, Badlands, Fallen Angels, Hellboy 1, Black Coal Thin Ice, The Terrorizers, Dead Mans' Letters, Pink Flamingos, Der Todesking, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Natural Born Killers
>7 and above
BATMAN(the one with that twink), Goodfellas, Godfather 1&2, Like Someone in Love, Tokyo Night Sky is Always the Densest Shade of Blue, Bladerunner 2049, Nice Guys, Road Games, Mondo Trasho, Miami Vice, Seven Psychopaths, Obi Oba End of Civilisation, Promising Young Woman, Scarface, Cecil B. Demented
>bad bad bad movies, don't watch. very bad. don't recommend.
Megan is Missing(holy hell this was scary as fuck), Headless(about a man who beheads women and fucks the skull), Movie 43(dont watch), Rubber(about a tire who kills ppl very weird movie), LA SLASHER!!!(this i actually liked to a degree. watch LA SLASHER.)
see ya normie fucks.
No.29248
>>29244I'll take that as a yes and my interest is instantly gone
No.29249
>>29244>Seperately, look at what the right are cutting into movie trailersI can't listen with sound. wtf is this?
No.29292
>>29247don’t know if bait but this is absolute rube taste, starting with the numeric rating system
No.29354
>>29292what do you believe is a good rating system, or is a rating system itself inflammatory to judge art?
i use a very simple metric, which is like or didn't like, also would rewatch is a metric
No.29365
>>29354Something along the lines of
—Personally recommended
—Interesting at least
—Don't bother
You should just use your words to describe your appraisal of a movie, in the end
No.29381
>>15959Someone theorized that he had an old mistress (that's also credited as a producer) that bankrolled the film
No.29397
>>15959>>29381Reminder that Tommy Wiseau was born in the USSR
SOVIETCHADS KEEP DOMINATING EVERY MOVIE CATEGORY
BEST, WORST
No.29585
TIL film festivals were literally created by fascists as a form of cultural control
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venice_Film_Festival#1930s No.29592
>>29585it's so fucking over…
No.29648
>>29647Can someone explain the logistics of how countries like India get outsourced for VFX work but their own movies don't have good cgi work?
Is it because they're occupied or is CGI in film like copyrighted, are there trade secrets?
No.29649
>>29647Looks like Hindutva propaganda
I guess they don't have much standards
No.29652
>>29649It's true it does but the funny thing is they're the ones seething about it lol
I don't know if they're marketting it to them or just doing a cool movie, but those twats have really eaten up all the cool hindu mythology
First hitler and now these shitheads, I fucking hate them so much
Religion is cool asf looking without rightoids
No.29673
>>29353>But what about film? Movies are all in 24fps so does a higher refresh rate do anything?>I can't find anything online about this>24 SeptemberReally? There is currently hype going around about exactly this for Avatar 2 and the Avatar 1 rerelease that just hit theaters.
High Frame Rate has been tried with the Hobbit trilogy in order to make the 3D work better there. It was pretty hit and miss though, because they made the entire film trilogy 48 fps, and even the slower paced scenes felt like they were in fast forward. It was a new technique and very unfinished and on the whole it was distracting and the 3D was not great anyway. (Also the movies sucked.)
This idea originated with Avatar 1, which Cameron realized during production had some issues with the 3D during certain scenes with a lot of movement. The idea was passed around at the time to increase the frame rate to make the scenes easier to see (too few frames and too much movement led to blurring that looks extra bad in 3D). Cameron's approach however is to
selectively use higher frame rates only for certain sequences/shots where it would actually help, and to crank up or down between them. The Avatar sequels have footage that's designed for and rendered in a higher frame rate. They have previews of some of these scenes in theaters with the Avatar 1 re-release, and the Avatar 1 remaster also has some parts rendered in HFR. IDK how well it works though because the theater where I saw the re-release did not use a HFR projector (and did shamefully bad job on the audio and visuals in general).
Generally 24fps is seen as "real film" but that's really just tradition and what people are accustomed to. I don't think there's any scientific basis for 24fps looking better to the eye, but there's certainly monetary reasons for studios to prefer not to invest into higher frame rates since that means more data you have to store for each film. The usual criticism you see for HFR is "it looks like a soap opera" because traditionally those are shot with cameras that have higher frame rates. But it's really just an association people have. Nowadays there is probably more association with video games.
No.29684
Just saw Top Gun: Maverick and goddamn if it isn't the stupidest Navy Airforce wank shit I've ever seen. Even the original Top Gun - a movie I utterly dislike and find boringly gay pseudo-macho shit isn't as much of a wank as this fake-ass movie is. The Mach 10 shit at the start just made me fucking laugh my ass off at the utterly fake retardation (at least the original used real planes and real capabilities) and then the entire scene of Maverick taking out Su-57s using only a cannon is actual retardation. I've seen B-movies from the early 2000s that do a better job of "American uberjet fighters beating the Eastern enemy" than this overpriced schlock. Truly an epitome of unironically engaging in the entire retarded "'Murica, Fuck yeah" idiocy that got made to mock the jingoism of the USA in the first place.
No.29687
>>29684Actually I finally found a review of the film that isn't deepthroating the "cool fighter jet movie 2.0"
A 700 word succinct analysis that perfectly encapsulates the fascistic idiotic concepts of the film:
https://letterboxd.com/bretterbox/film/top-gun-maverick/ The military's response to the review essentially boils down to "it's just fiction maaaan, can't you just forget reality and politics? Movies are totally made in a vaccum!"
And nitpicking the error of the unnamed enemy country in the story not be Iran but instead a standin for either Russia, the DPRK or China… all of which makes the film fundementally WORSE because that means that a country fielding 5th generation fighters is also fielding SA-3s as their main air-defense (never mind that since they bothered to cruisemissile-strike an airbase, they should have just used HARMs to take out the SAMs and avoid the stupid canyon run entirely. Not to mention that they're fucking ATTACKING NUCLEAR COUNTRIES - literally provoking nuclear retaliation. And I'm not even going into the Russians constantly tracking ALL US carriers at all times and having comprehensive coastal defense as a direct asymmetrical response to carrier fleets. You'd think an area like a secret nuclear facility'd be a damn bit more defended. But I digress. The same response also takes a jab at MintPress for exposing the military propaganda reasons of the film by saying "Everybody already knows that" ignoring that
A) No, people genuinely do not know this
B) This contradicts the idea of "just take it in a vacuum man"
C) That this implies that people realize that the film is essentially war-mongering and are blood-thirsty enough to like that and that this is a good thing apparently…
This coming from the same faggots that cry and bitch about Russian and Chinese military power in parades.
https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2022/06/15/this-angry-critic-gave-top-gun-maverick-just-half-a-star/https://www.mintpressnews.com/top-gun-maverick-military-propaganda-official-documents/281077/To round off, I honestly enjoyed Jurassic World: Dominion more than this shit, at least that one is truly fictional and not military fapping and I could just enjoy the stupid fun and dinosaurs.
No.29800
>>29687>>29684 The first movie is pretty shit too, especially the protagonist
https://archive.ph/By7Tm No.29837
>>29805I saw afterwards that it was based partially on a book. I've never read anything by Stanislav Lem but it sounds like it'd be a fun read. might add it to my ever-growing stack of books.
I also just saw that he wrote the book that the movie Solaris is based on, so I'm more interested now.
>>29826Neil Breen is absolute kino, the greatest living auteur director
No.29839
>>29685Yeah it's basically the metaverse but using drugs instead of VR.
No.29921
>literally just film late 1920s Soviet Union
>critics of the next millennium call it one of the greatest films of all time
ugh, vat could have been
No.29935
>>29924It's nice knowing that formalism was universally derided at one point, instead of being the norm
No.29942
>>29941Amateurish directors? "We'll fix it in post" has become a meme in the industry. Dumbasses can't shoot right in the first place and think the digital artists can fix everything for them.
No.29947
>>29942what is the mistake they're exactly doing
No.29948
>>29947Shooting improperly and assuming that the post-artists can fix it with their computers. There's only so much you can do with crap footage. It's much easier to just shoot right in the first place with the right lights, than to assume that the post-artists can just use their magic to fix it.
No.29949
>>29947the lighting in the bottom image is totally flat and they clearly tried to fix it in post by just adding a stupid filter over it. compare to the top image where the use of harsh lighting contrasts helps to create a visual language for the narrative of the film; Michael Myers is a psychotic weird stalker who seemingly can appear from anywhere and keep coming back, literally out of the darkness (classic symbolism for mysterious and evil things). the whole movie really is a great example of the use of lighting, especially the end sequence with all the different shots of the house with the shadows everywhere. it helps to create the atmosphere of what it feels like to be alone in a big empty house at night where every shadow feels like it could have something sinister lurking in it. another great example of that is House of the Devil.
compare that to the second image where there's essentially no visual language. it just looks flat with a piss filter added in post to try to mimic the appearance of having a style. I think they even tried to make Michael Myers' mask look "spookier" rather than using fillmmaking techniques to make him a scary character.
No.29950
>>29935wat did u meen by this?
No.29955
>>29949>the use of lighting, especially the end sequence with all the different shots of the house with the shadows everywherei didn't see any shadows but it was very spooky the just showed the house and neighborhood
they filmed that on the last day, and had money to clean some of the house, and had to film very carefully
so stupid how with better equipment they shoot worse nowadays
No.29961
>>29685im a little mad at this because it takes the title from one Lem story and the topic/basic plot from two entirely different Lem stories
No.29965
>>29955To paraphrase the Milwaukee hack frauds, computer graphics made stupid easy
>>29961Which other stories?
No.30094
https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/do you agree with the idea that movies are sexless now?
No.30112
>>30094Yeah, it fucking sucks
No.30134
>>30094Very good article, with this interesting piece at the end.
>This cinematic trend reflects the culture around it. Even before the pandemic hit, Millennials and Zoomers were less sexually active than the generation before them. Maybe we’re too anxious about the Apocalypse; maybe we’re too broke to go out; maybe having to live with roommates or our parents makes it a little awkward to bring a partner home; maybe there are chemicals in the environment screwing up our hormones; maybe we don’t know how to navigate human sexuality outside of rape culture; maybe being raised on the message that our bodies are a nation-ending menace has dampened our enthusiasm for physical pleasure. >Eating disorders have steadily increased, though. We are still getting our bodies ready to fight The Enemy, and since we are at war with an abstract concept, the enemy is invisible and ethereal. To defeat it, our bodies must lose solidity as well. No.30372
>>30134what does it mean and who is "The Enemy"
No.30399
Scrolling the reviews of a movie on letterboxd is an oddyssey through the unimaginable possibilities of how inept and philistine the means and conclusion of a critique of a single work of art can be
There's not a single angle of how empty and vacuous of a statement you can make that's left unexplored
It's honestly kind of awe-inspiring how aggressively banal it is
No.30404
>>30399you do realize your critique of them does sound as banal as their critique of movies?
letterboxd is just like twitter comedians most of the time, it's irritating, but? i sometimes find thoughtful stuff
No.30407
>>30404>you do realize your critique of them does sound as banal as their critique of movies?Dogshit post
No.30409
>>30407yeah that's what i was trying to say about your post
No.30521
gonna be honest, i feel hdr media without hdr turned on look better
dunno if this is a problem with modern movies, but shit is so fucking dark
when i turn hdr off, i'm like wow, i can actually see the colours on this movie and everything feels alive, but not in annoying vibrant, high contrast way
No.30522
>>30521ok nvm, i htink i fucked up my hdr, it looks like hdr when i turn it off
No.30523
>>30522i resetting everything and hdr off still looks more better
wtf is going on
No.30524
>>30523ok nvm me again, i was keeping the screen paused which was wrong way to check
No.30583
Lol LMAO even:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalker_(1979_film)
>Several people involved in the film production, and possibly Tarkovsky himself, died from causes that some crew members attributed to the film's long shooting schedule in toxic locations. Sound designer Vladimir Sharun recalled:
> "We were shooting near Tallinn in the area around the small river Jägala with a half-functioning hydroelectric station. Up the river was a chemical plant and it poured out poisonous liquids downstream. There is even this shot in Stalker: snow falling in the summer and white foam floating down the river. In fact it was some horrible poison. Many women in our crew got allergic reactions on their faces. Tarkovsky died from cancer of the right bronchial tube. And Tolya Solonitsyn too. That it was all connected to the location shooting for Stalker became clear to me when Larisa Tarkovskaya died from the same illness in Paris."[18]Well at least they didn't go unpunished for wasting my time.
No.30783
>>30634- Joan Root murdered for her activist work by people involved in poaching.
- James Miller, mudered by the IDF while filming in occupied Palestine.
- Christian Poveda, murdered by El Salvadorian gangs for his documentary on them
- Theo van Gogh, murdered by an islamist for a short on abuse against women in Islamic societies.
No.30843
Watched Prey. Although it portrays the indigenous much more respectfully than usually, it's not high-brow or anything, it's still a Predator movie with throwbacks to the original movie.
No.30857
>>30783that's fucked up, did all these deaths happen before the 2000s?
>>30634pier paolo got by the mob right? i forget what was the reason
No.30903
https://youtu.be/NqxziDlZOIohow do they still make vietnam movies, is this also going to end with the "realization" in a milqetoast way that "war bad" and not "us imperialism is bad"
No.30904
>>30903almost certainly. remember plenty of people who think 'we could have won if it werent for the democrats' are still alive
No.30936
>>30935They don't think it's a real war crime because they consider the Vietnamese to be bug people.
No.30937
>>30936that's fucked up, hopefully they'll die out soon
don't even understand how you grow racist against other people when the internet didn't exist
the government made them racist against Vietnamese
do you know more about the war? why and how, did south Vietnam, accidentally or intentionally bring the US into it
i don't know how biased the wikipedia is on this topic
No.30945
>>30935Lots of people died very gruesomely and it was a very ideological war, which probably led to a need to make it not seem like a pointless waste of lives.
No.30946
Watched "Nightmare Alley" earlier, been to work, going to watch it again now, it's that good.
There was a 1940s version of this film, based on the same book.
Basically, it's a neo—noir, but set in a carnival for the first part. Same sort of setting as Todd Browning's "Freaks".
The main character is basically a grifter, a con artist. There's a lot in the film about "reading" the "mark", picking up on clues about the victim of the con. And psychological tricks. If anyone remembers the ONA wampir threads from a few months back, it's the same sort of thing Anton Lavey was on about, how to trick and manipulate people , except he called it "lesser black magic."
Great film, has some strong characters, William Dafoe as the nasty boss of a gimp, there's a platinum blonde shrink, Ron Perlman as the circus boss.
Very dark and cynical, but cathartic at the end. Mark Kermode in a review said it was like a Greek tragedy.
No.30947
>>30937The US didn't and doesn't like communism. They got involved in something that wasn't their business (putting it mildly).
No.30950
Got any examples of films where it's describing a dystopia, and the director[etc.] knows it's a dystopia, and hopefully the viewer understands a dystopia, but it's never really made clear with blatant imagery. You know, the dark lighting or evil laughs. It seems nice and there's no point where SUDDENLY THE VEIL DROPS OH NO ITS ALL DARK AND SCARY REALITY NOW!
I'm used to Hollywood films where they often have to cater to the lowest common denominator and ensure that people who think the current world is not too bad couldn't possibly not realize this other word is badevil. Well, shit, even Fight Club and American Psycho get misinterpreted but you know what I mean.
No.30954
>>30946 (me)
>watch Nightmare Alley on repeat >next day go to the burger van for breakfast >always thought the guy there looks like William Defoe, >with the same air of quiet menace >if anything the burger van guy looks has an air of greater menace>won't say which burger van it is >but it's one in London>and if you've ever been there you'll know immediately who I'm talking about>in my mind… >guy gives me a burger>says if you're looking for a job>it's only temporary, >and then but I won't spoil a great bit in the film if you haven't seen it
No.31033
unironically why are scorceses 3 movies about gangsters always listed on "movies to watch before you die" lists?
am i thinking too superficially or is there something else about those movies that's so great? like the acting, or the way the camera is shot, or the writing?
jut watched lawrence of arabia
No.31038
Just watched the Conformist, makes me want to get into Italian cinema
No.31041
>>31033I wish Scorcese would branch out more often into other genres instead of making the same gangster movie again and again.
No.31043
>>31033Godfather 1+2 and Goodfellas are pretty great movies. Look at all the memes Goodfellas produced.
I might've liked Godfather more but now I might appreciate Goodfellas more because he did a better job of portraying Mafia as the unhinged low lifes they are instead of god like masterminds living by "the code" or whatever.
>>31041>I wish Scorcese would branch out more often into other genres instead of making the same gangster movie again and again.He does. The Irishman was kind of pointless I'll agree, but not terrible.
Gangs of New York had enough other flavor with the time and setting to make it interesting. I liked The Departed pretty well too. I actually kind of liked it more than the original.
No.31044
>>31033Scorsese is baby's first auteur. I agree that his stuff isn't really noteworthy, and honestly more schlock-y than it thinks it is.
No.31046
>>31043I'm stupid he didn't do Godfather.
I really liked Casino too.
No.31049
>>31044Also he essentially makes the same film over and over again: solitary male character is driven by ennui, meets other like-minded men, there's an orgy of machismo violence with a hard life lesson about not following in their footsteps at the end that pretty much everyone ignores in favour of everything before.
No.31050
>>31049Every gangster movie ever. They're still pretty entertaining.
How many gangster flicks have Al Pacino and Deneiro done?
No.31051
>>30954>>30946That is was alright. Nothing that special. Twist was cool but it didn't feel earned. Didn't feel they sold how he was brought THAT low.
No.31143
>>31073boomer fantasy i guess, lot of them watching it
why is the movie psychotic btw?
No.31144
>>31041i know he made one that doesn't sound like gangster flick, it's about some date a guy has in a diner
i guess he makes them because he's italian and has knowledge about that stuff
>>31043wait holy shit the departed is a remake? was it hong kong?
also yeah i've watched neither movies but i just now watched a trailer of the 50th anniversary of god father and goodfellas and the latter sounds much more of a good time
also that's good that he shows them as low lifes, that comes through the trailer
the maifa i hear liked godfather
No.31145
>>31044who is your favourite auteur?
>>31049lol
No.31146
>>31145> who is your favourite auteur?Polanski he makes everyone seethe
No.31148
>>31146Drugging and raping children isn't cool anon.
No.31149
>>31148dont care the apartment trilogy is the best series on the isolation of modern life.
No.31152
>>31145i don’t have a favourite auteur
No.31232
Does anyone know of a movie that deals with or evaluates the concept of ethics in general without focusing on a specific moral issue? Asking for a friend.
No.31237
>>31232Do you know what a movie is? Hint: it’s not an essay
No.31238
>>31237It's funny because I actually came up with my own movie writing theory which is more essay focused. I believe movies should be centered around the theme or the thesis. All the events of the movie are rather superfluous unless relating to the theme or the thesis of the movie. So it should be approached like a essay. Thesis, body, conclusion. I think most movies that fall flat, fall flat because you look back at them and realize there was no point. It was just a lot of random events strung together not cohering to a central point.
No.31239
>>31238And I don't like the term "message" because it calls to mind movies explicitly laying out the thesis in expository kind of dialogue. Movies being show not tell, all the events of the movie should illustrate the thesis or theme of the movie so that the audience can pick it up without you writing the characters specifically telling the audience it.
No.31240
>>31237It doesn't need to be a 90 minute diatribe simply a movie that could be interpreted as an evaluation of ethics. Btw I really am asking for a friend so direct all snark at him and not me.
No.31268
do you think apocalypse now fucked up coppola? is that why godfather iii feels different in its production to the first 2 movies?
it's not the same lighting issue that plagues movies now
why do 70s movies and 90s movie look so different
No.31289
>>31268Directors nowadays think it's "immersion" when you can't see shit in night scenes. Past directors focused more on visibility, just look at the first Terminator, the entire movie almost takes place and night and you can see everything crystal clear.
I think if you want to make a scene too dark as a stylistic device you need to explain why you want that specifically in that context, not just do it for the lolz.
Non-Western movies don't suffer from it as much (sometimes Japanese ones do) becasue the directors there are more old school.
No.31290
>>31145Most actors in the old Roman movies like Laurence Olivier were great. I also like Gary Oldman but he is so wasted in all the shitty popculture flicks. Bruno Ganz was great. As for the female side, probably just from French one but I can't remember the name now.
I don't wanna sound racist but I don't know any Asian actor I like, the Kabuki theatre overplaying makes it hard for me to appreciate them.
No.31298
I'm really excited that Goncharov is seeing a resurgence. There really isn't a better mafia movie, so seeing a whole new generation rediscover it and experience it for the first time is amazing.
No.31300
>>31298I gotta admit, I thought it was overblown until I sat down to see it myself. Goncharov goncharowns.
No.31384
>>31381I feel like I should be excused for not having seen an obscure 1974 scifi movie.
No.31477
Just tried watching the first Avatar again since the new ones coming out and could only make it like 12 minutes. What a stupid fucking movie. Humans waste 6 years of their life traversing space for a lazily named rock and come up with the most convoluted bio-tech ever to square up to the 10ft tall locals? What the shit? They couldn't have just bio-engineered themselves or made exoskeletons. For that matter why even force in the plot point of Jake not having legs? His twin brother was still dead. What does him not having legs have to do with anything? I fucking hate graphics showcase movies. At least try to have a story if you wanna pass off lights and pretty colors as a movie.
No.31481
>>29935>universally deridedLeftypol smoothbrains are such narrow minded NPCs they literally fit in with pre-boomer libs who were terrified by trains moving towards th screen. "These lights and shadows are mere trickery! The human eye hasn't evolved to see such quick edits! Harrumph! Harrumph!"
No.31501
I like the movie overall but The Matrix kinda bums be out with the interrogation scene. The agents basically pull some magic shit, but at the same time are relatively impotent and incompetent before and afterwards. It takes some serious disbelief stretching to come back from that, like oh wow they control the system but can't tell Neo is hiding two metres away from them and chase people around on foot.
No.31503
>>31501What do you mean?
They were trying to basically hack into Morpheus's brain. And yes they chase people on foot, but can also hijack people if they need. The agents are ultimately bound by the rules of the matrix, something which hackers aren't, meaning Neo etc. Only Neo is a good enough hacker to actually defy the rules of the Matrix though. Also agents don't control the system. They are sentient programs whose function is to control the matrix, like cops. If they stop doing their job effectively, they might get kicked out from the matrix. Or did you mean the Matrix 4?
No.31506
>>31501What kind of magic shit they pull? All they do is being really powerful fighters with the same constraints that Neo, Morpheus, etc have. Agent Smith is a rouge element amongst them, which probably disrupts the entire operation. I'm not even a Matrix fan but what really ruined my immersion was when Neo suddenly has powers in the real world in the second movie, like why? It was never explained. Also when Trinity pulled some "the power of love" bullshit by the end of the first movie. The latter is such a cheap deus ex machina while still trying to hold onto the audiences emotions. Also ruined Interstellar for me which does the same shit.
No.31507
>>31506I'm a hardcore fan of the matrix and I agree on both points.
No.31508
>>29942"Day-for-night" filming. Basically the studio and the production firm place so much pressure on the crew that they have to film night scenes at day and have the post-production staff turn it into night, making it look like shit. You can almost always tell when a night scene was shot during the day.
What I am wondering is how older movies who did the same thing still manage to make it look better without even having computers lmao
No.31516
>>31508>What I am wondering is how older movies who did the same thing still manage to make it look better without even having computers lmaoBecause nobody in the industry today gives a shit about making anything good, they just want to pick up a paycheck. Which is fair when empty suits are making all the 'creative' decisions.
No.31523
>>31520god really is dead
No.31524
>>29955limitations and boundries make art elevated
No.31529
Just saw Avatar 2. I must applaud James Cameron for making the water Navi so hot.. They are thicker, curvier than the blue noodle people. You get couple clearly intentionally eroticized shots of water tribe chiefs nymphet daughter.
As for the movie itself, it was ok. I know the first one was about as clique as they come, but still had emotional weight behind it. This one not so much. There no longer is a singular main character, the screen time is spread too thin between all the members of Sully family and evil colonel. The environmental themes also took the back seat, humans are still destroying nature for profit, but the story is now driven by colonels desire to get revenge on Sully. And the ending action scene kept on dragging forever.
Also, I felt the movie was kind of hypocritical when it comes to its environmental themes, like the humans hunt alien whales to extract immortality serum from them, and its treated as a horrible thing, but you get numerous whimsical scenes of Navi killing animals.
No.31555
>>31503>>31506Haha I mean the scene with Neo's mouth, right near the start. I suppose it can be rationalized because
he hasn't been removed from the farms yet, so they have physical access to his brain but eh, it feels like they're magicians but they have to resort to hand-to-hand combat.
No.31558
>>31529The moral contention was that the humans would hunt the space whales for the immortality serum but waste the rest of the animal, much like the slaughter of the North American Buffalo where it was all for fur (and to break the lifestyle of the plains Indians).
No.31561
> (I love them all but this one stands apart)
What's his best works? I watched Family Romance LLC and it was okay but I wouldn't call it timeless.
No.31591
>>31558The difference being that both immortality serum and food serve the same purpose - keeping you alive.
No.31723
>>31555Well it's a simulation. They should be able to do all kinds of stuff. However you are right in a sense that never use that shit for the rest of the trilogy and just use fists, which is a bit weird.
Thinking about it, I don't think The Matrix has aged well aesthetically. It's too 90s, with the leather coats and the sunglasses that look like the types bicyclists wear. Today you'd probably go for aviator shades and shorter coats.
No.31724
>>31529>There no longer is a singular main character, the screen time is spread too thinCameron has some weird ideas about releasing movies simultaneously in theaters and on streaming services, but as two different versions with the streaming version being more like a series. He probably was already experimenting with structuring the movie along those lines. Heard several people compare Avatar 2 to a series in terms of how the scenes are broken up. That seems like a more interesting topic than the movie itself.
>>31558>>31591It should probably also be noted that if you have some immortality serum and you don't harvest it sustainably you will eventually run out and stop being immortal.
>>31555I think it's implied that the way they jack people into the matrix from outside works differently and the machines have less control over people. I mean you actually see a visual difference in the connections to the characters. They initially have plugs all over their body vs the single plug in their head they use later.
>>31723>Thinking about it, I don't think The Matrix has aged well aesthetically. It's too 90sIt was ridiculously 90s even in the 90s tbh. But that's kind of the point. IIRC it's Smith who says that the simulation intentionally chose a specific peak period, and that being the 90s is actually kind of prescient in retrospect.
No.31725
>>31724>>31555Actually nvm it's not IMPLIED that the connection tot he matrix from outside works differently - they state it outright. Part of the threat of the agents is they can fully take over anybody who is still plugged in, but the rebels are immune after being disconnected. The mouth thing is just an extension of the control the agents have over people who are still plugged in.
No.31726
>>31725When Agent Smith took over that dude's body how the fuck that does work? How can a software exist in a human brain? The first movie didn't have much logical errors but the other two are clusterfucks but Neo suddenly having powers in the real world really takes the cake
No.31727
>>31726Nvm forgot the plug in the head. That could be a conduit for Smith
No.31801
>>31726Neo having IRL powers makes no sense because he would need some kind of wifi, but Smith overriding somebody's mind isn't a stretch when the programs can basically do whatever they want to your brain.
>>31800I know Cameron is a madman, but this can't be real can it?
No.32505
Bruce Willis, king of semi-forgettable Hollywood action flicks in the 80s and 90s, is dying of dementia
No.32516
>>32505yippee kayee mister falcon
No.38758
anybody got some recommendations for films in Spanish?
No.38759
>>5046>a WW2 film series where every character speaks in their native language>they dub it overtragic
No.38761
>>38758Azor stayed with me
No.38779
>>38758I've got a bunch of recs.
Any genres in particular?
No.38789
>>38779Not sure about genres really, I liked Canoa, Libertarias, Pan's Labyrinth, Devil's Backbone, Los Olvidados. So I guess give me a mix of overtly political and ones that are less so. If you know a really good comedy, throw that in too please.
No.38791
>>38789Right on, I'll try to group them by country, I think.
I'll put the plot outlines from imdb too to give you an idea of each movie.
Spain (mostly thrillers/mysteries with a few horror movies at the end):
El reino
>A Spanish politician whose high-class lifestyle is based on nefarious and illegal business threatens to break his entire party after a newspaper exposes him to the public eye.As bestas
>An expatriate French couple operate an organic farm in the Spanish countryside but clash with villagers.Que dios nos perdone
>Inspectors Velarde and Alfaro must find what appears to be a serial killer. This hunt against the clock will make them realize something they'd never thought about: neither one of them is that different from the killer.La isla minima
>Two cops lost in the deep south of Spain. One serial killer to catch. A lot of secrets and lies to disclose.Tarde para la ira
>A hard-working single mother and wife of a getaway driver who is about to be released is approached by an unassuming and gentle man, completely unaware though of his inscrutable and utterly impelling motives.Celda 211
>The story of two men on different sides of a prison riot – the inmate leading the rebellion and the young guard trapped in the revolt, who poses as a prisoner in a desperate attempt to survive the ordeal.>Contratiempo>A successful entrepreneur accused of murder and a witness preparation expert have less than three hours to come up with an impregnable defense.Mientras duermes
>Cesar, a miserable man who works as an apartment concierge, takes a special interest in an attractive woman who lives there. He goes to great lengths to trouble her.El Orfanato
>A woman brings her family back to her childhood home, which used to be an orphanage for handicapped children. Before long, her son starts to communicate with an invisible new friend.Tesis
>While doing a thesis about violence, Ángela finds a snuff video where a girl is tortured until death. Soon she discovers that the girl was a former student in her faculty…Los cronocrímenes
>A man accidentally gets into a time machine and travels back in time nearly an hour. Finding himself will be the first of a series of disasters of unforeseeable consequences.Musarañas
>1950s Madrid: The agoraphobic Montse raised her now 18 y.o. kid sister. The upstairs neighbor falls down the stairs and breaks a leg. The crazy Montse takes him in.[REC]
>A television reporter and cameraman follow emergency workers into a dark apartment building and are quickly locked inside with something terrifying.I also highly recommend the series Antidisturbios.
>A fictionalised look into the human tragedy of riot police and police brutality in Spain.Mexico (some political satire and drama. Go for any of the first three, if you want a good comedy - although they are much more than that. Matando cabos is dumb fun, if you're in the mood for that):
El Infierno
>After being deported back to Mexico, a man has no choice but to join the vicious drug cartel that has corrupted his hometown in order to survive.La ley de Herodes
>A naive man appointed as an acting mayor of a small town turns into a corrupt politician capable of anything to stay in power.La dictadura perfecta
>After accepting a colossal bribe, a powerful TV conglomerate gins up fake news stories to enhance the image of a notoriously corrupt politician.Matando cabos
>A dark, offbeat comedy about a group of Mexico City teens embroiled in a kidnapping involving a retired wrestling legend and a parrot.Ya no estoy aquí
>In Monterrey, Mexico, a young street gang spends their days dancing to slowed-down cumbia and attending parties. After a mix-up with a local cartel, their leader is forced to migrate to the U.S. but quickly longs to return home.Roma
>A year in the life of a middle-class family's maid in Mexico City in the early 1970s.Vuelven
>A dark fairy tale about a gang of five children trying to survive the horrific violence of the cartels and the ghosts created every day by the drug war.Argentina (also mostly thrillers/dramas and a couple of horror flicks at the end. Relatos salvajes is a black comedy):
Relatos salvajes
>Six short stories that explore the extremities of human behavior involving people in distress.El secreto de sus ojos
>A retired legal counselor writes a novel hoping to find closure for one of his past unresolved homicide cases and for his unreciprocated love with his superior - both of which still haunt him decades later.El aura
>A deluded taxidermist plans the perfect crime.Nueve reinas
>Two con artists try to swindle a stamp collector by selling him a sheet of counterfeit rare stamps (the "nine queens").El clan
>The true story of the Puccio Clan, a family who kidnapped and killed people in the 80s.Aterrados
>When strange events occur in a neighborhood in Buenos Aires, a doctor specializing in the paranormal, her colleague, and an ex police officer decide to investigate further.Cuando acecha la maldad
>In a remote village, two brothers find a demon-infected man just about to "give birth" to evil itself. They decide to get rid of the body, only to end up unintentionally spreading chaos.Miscellaneous:
La llorona (Guatemala)
>An aging paranoid war criminal, protected by his faithful wife, faces death while being haunted by the ghosts of his past.La casa del fin de los tiempos (Venezuela)
>Dulce is a mother of two who experiences terrifying encounters with apparitions inside her old house, a place where a tragedy occurs. Thirty years later, an elderly Dulce returns home to decipher the mystery that has tormented her for so long.La casa lobo (Chile)
>Tells the story of Maria, a young woman who takes refuge in a house in southern Chile after escaping from a German colony.Crónicas (Ecuador)
>A suspense thriller about a reporter from Miami who travels to Ecuador in pursuit of a serial killer known as the "Monster of Babahoyo."Che: Part One
In 1956, Ernesto 'Che' Guevara and a band of Castro-led Cuban exiles mobilize an army to topple the regime of dictator Fulgencio Batista.
Che: Part Two
>In 1967, Ernesto 'Che' Guevara leads a small partisan army to fight an ill-fated revolutionary guerrilla war in Bolivia, South America.Feel free to ask if you want more specifics about any of the movies listed!
No.39100
if Barbie came out in a different time it would probably be just a generally positively remarked upon movie we reference here and there like idk Mean Girls or something but because our culture increasingly demands Pop Art to be taken seriously its a culture war
No.39112
>>29244How are those Russian "nationalist" movies more nationalist than say Band of Brothers, The Patriot, Saving Private Ryan, Fury, White House Down, etc. anyway? Especially the latter is full of nationalist motives that it borders on fascism. Saving Private Ryan at least gives the pretense of "war is bad" but in the end it's heavily tilted towards the Americans - five men taking out a tank squad, the sniper being a super soldier, etc. Same with the Vietnam War really, they are supposedly anti-war movies but the Vietnamese are portrayed as weak and helpless.
Also not all Russian films that receive money from the government are crazy nationalist - Sputnik for example was a movie that received money from the state movie fund and was just a good horror movie with no patriotic undertones.
The Soviet movie industry was also patriotic, there was Tarkovsky but they tolerated but they were at times suspicous of his work. And especially the Chinese and Russian war effort and blood toll in WWII are fucking buried in Hollywood with exceptions like Enemy at the Gates and The Last Emperor - well, that was made by an Italian communist. So China/Russia have every right to produce patriotic movies considering their cost was greater than that of the US. I have yet to see a Russian or Chinese movie that is openly chauvinist as well, especially when it comes to the portrayal of women.
No.39113
>>39112Anyway, the Russian movie industry has taken a hit after the sanctions. They have problems contracting foreign actors, only freaks like Steven Seagal are willing to work with them. They don't have access to many Western shooting locations, let alone co-productions. They basically have to use Kaliningrad for that because it looks like Western Europe.
The Chinese industry is on the rise I imagine after it sucked for a long time. Wandering Earth and Three Body Problem catapulted them into relevancy even if redditors are still sceptical.
No.39128
I had no idea how many good short films are on YouTube. Especially in the Sci-Fi and Horror genre. The actors are often surprisingly good, CGI has come a long way from being accessible for amateur filmmakers with low or no budget in decent quality, and the movies are often more intelligent that full length feature films. Sadly a lot of the short movies leave you wanting, because they don't have the budget to make it longer.
I used to make fun of movies of film students but now I'm more hesitant to do that. Also sadly you usually never hear from the actors and directors again, at least not in bigger productions. Do their scouts not seek out young talented movie makers and actors? They are missing out.
Anyway I'm continuing my marathon through Sci-Fi horror short films which is more satisfying than what came out recently in the mainstream.
No.39131
>>39128sounds cool. any recs?
No.39138
>>39128>Also sadly you usually never hear from the actors and directors again, at least not in bigger productions. Do their scouts not seek out young talented movie makers and actors? They are missing out. I can't remember what they are, but I know on Half in the Bag they've mentioned one or two directors of successful youtube productions getting big hollywood movies.
No.39223
You can slurp down slop or you can make it mean something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_(1969_film)A masterpiece of political cinema.
Watching it, then listening to the two part Programmed to Chill podcast honestly elevates it into something even better. I like PTC a lot, but in this case the echoes of that movie and that time are literally ringing today. The level of detail that Jimmy FG goes into about the movie and *everything* surrounding and connected to it makes it even more powerful. The PTC episodes are patreon, gimme an anon filehost and I'll upload them for leftypol.
No.39232
>>38758>>38791Just rewatched pic related
Absolute kino, lovely scenery and great soundtrack too.
No.39354
I know i know, but after work i want the most brain damaging thing possible.
I'm watching Spiderman No Way Home. Tom Holland is not as hot as the previous movies, now he's ridiculously and unrealistically bulky.
The script is not particularly bad. The acting is good enough. In general, everything is good enough. The story though, is fucking retarded.
Really dropped the ball there. It's not even good for a "turn off your brain" movie, because the story is so fucking nonsensical that it makes me angry.
No.39459
>>39457>>39458Ooh thought of another surrealist 70s dystopain Sci Fi for you: A Boy And His Dog
Now that one is really top notch. Fallout aped the shit out of that movie.
Lol apparently it's set le current year.
No.40959
Tags: lolicon, body swap, cuckold, netorare, shotacon, bdsm, gangland, prostitution, anal, double penetration,
Is the new thing going to be Hollywood just making feature length live action hentai movies?generation,
What was the message of the movie? 7 year olds just want to be child prositutes?
No.41439
I wonder if a reason Fight Club, as a film, is so notable is because it describes and demonstrates a fantasy, even if ultimately it is later critical of it. A large portion of the middle of the film is dedicated to glorifying the club as escapism from the boredom and disempowerment (characterised as femininity) of the alien urban capitalist society. This is not just a simple sex scene to spike adrenaline or watching some ripped jerkoff spray a machine gun, this puts you in the middle of a self-gratifying society. A social orgy of sorts, an exciting community that you are placed in the middle of. At least in mainstream film (and that's most of what I've seen), this is extremely rare.
It's very distinct from an action film, and in a very different way from how, say, Jarhead (and Full Metal Jacket) are in their similar personal stories. We don't glimpse into a hell, in this case we glimpse into a fantasy, in a very personal way through the close-ups and fourth-wall narration.
It reminds me of a video game with the immersive violent fantasy, maybe the closest film I know of to one. Would be interested to hear of any other film that manages to parallel this fantasy fulfillment.
No.41446
>>40959You're talking about Poor Things, right? Shit reminds me of Balabanov's crap in the 90s. All of this directors films are samefaced art-house nonsense obsessed with sex.
Most of it is a vulgar mess. In theory the makings of the story has the potential to be good; a girl learning to be herself in spite of her Frankenstein-like nature. But Lanthimos had to make it 'extreme' for the sake of shock value, typical modern Hollywood. Like, her childishly enjoying breaking plates is good enough, we don't need her to visibly piss herself too. If she's stabbing at corpses because her father figure does autopsies and surgeries, that makes sense but there's so much that is contradictive narratively. The book it is based on is even more boring and only slightly less vulgar; a collection of hearsay and letters and the author's rambling political opinions collaged together.
>lolicon It's kinda worse actually, since it's like a reversal of the "adult in a child's body" that crap like the 1000 year old vampire loli trope is. The question of sexuality in such a situation is a concept that Star Trek explored far more maturely and without being tasteless. The director called criticism of this constant obsession with sexuality and ghoulish violence "prudish" but I disagree. There's many movies with sex or sexual scenes that have been accepted as such. Terminator comes to mind as being basically softcore porn, and nobody batted an eye - you came for an R-Rating you expect some adult stuff. But this film just had sex because the Lanthimos was a horny fuck with a penchant for the grotesque IMO, so everything about Bella's growth is forced through a purely sexual lens. There's plenty of grotesque films that can have sexuality in it and strange exploratory themes that aren't tasteless, there's a lot of Italian and French films like that, for example Jean-Pierre Jeunet made several such films in the 90s.
>What was the message of the movie? Supposedly an inspiring journey of a woman's liberation if they could explore themselves freely from the start or some shit like that. It's why every male character is twisted as fuck. The idea itself has merit, a naiive woman with the mind of a child growing up quickly (mentally) allows for interesting scenarios, but we don't really get them. The fact that the film glosses over the interaction with other women, (especially at the brothel) is demonstrative that Lanthimos is treating her like a plot-device for the film, not a character, the only woman that has any significance is the token lesbian. When people tried to discuss the messages and ideas his film might have he stated that he would prefer not to get into "an analytic conversation"
I disagree with a lot of feminist takes because usually they're just codswallop, but this film's story and direction is the encapsulation of "le Male Gaze". The original book, boring as it is, has a distinct contrast of how men viewed and talked about Bella and how she talked about herself and her experiences of being taken advantage of. The film loses this almost entirely and feels like a parody of the book, mostly because, unlike a book, we see everything from a third-person point of view, rather than a third-person limited or first person POV.
>>40960 >X (2022) The story for this was a stereotypical 1970s slasher movie crossed with a psycho-biddy story… most movies of that genre suck TBH, and only a few are well known and considered good, usually because they have unique aspects that broke the mold despite having the usual 'group of people killed off by psycho' narrative Friday the 13th for example.
The movie (X) got an entry on this fetish site for that scene, at least she has a nice ass.
https://archive.ph/iMuQv No.41451
>>41446>The question of sexuality in such a situation is a concept that Star Trek explored far more maturely and without being tasteless. I miss /trek/.
No.41452
>>41446Yes poor things.
>Most of it is a vulgar mess. In theory the makings of the story has the potential to be good; a girl learning to be herself in spite of her Frankenstein-like nature.I think the premise is fine if you don't take it to some degenerate sexual angle.
>It's kinda worse actually, since it's like a reversal of the "adult in a child's body" that crap like the 1000 year old vampire loli trope is. The question of sexuality in such a situation is a concept that Star Trek explored far more maturely and without being tasteless. Yes I know, but her brain is literally supposed to be that of ? year old or something, no clue how long after the operation the movie was supposed to start. I dunno I guess they just we're supposed to accept that her brain hyper develops because it's in an adult body.
>The director called criticism of this constant obsession with sexuality and ghoulish violence "prudish" but I disagree. There's many movies with sex or sexual scenes that have been accepted as such.You know it wasn't even the graphic sex scenes that really bothered me and I watched it with my parents too lol. I guess it was because every sex scenes was played for laughs it wasn't as awkward as usual in movies.
>The fact that the film glosses over the interaction with other women, (especially at the brothel) is demonstrative that Lanthimos is treating her like a plot-device for the film, not a character, the only woman that has any significance is the token lesbian.Her relationship with the mistress was weird as fuck. Seemed at first they were trying to imply like her naive feminism was going to make a difference at the brothel and then the mistress goes "hah black whore you aren't as popular you get punished for standing with her." Then Emma Stone gets an explanation of economic reality and basically told to STFU and service the johns and that seemed to be the final message on the sex stuff. Then they just sprinkle in some ridiculous scenes of her learning surgery and becoming socialist or whatever but nothing becomes of that.
The overall netorare plot was so weird. The whole thing sounds like something an incel would dream up but the director is turning it around and going, "yeah she wants to fuck hot assholes who want to pump and dump her instead of you while using you as a fall back after she got thousand cock stare from the sucking half the cocks in Paris, …. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING chinlet!"
No.41453
>>41446>The story for this was a stereotypical 1970s slasher movie crossed with a psycho-biddy story… most movies of that genre suck TBH, and only a few are well known and considered good, usually because they have unique aspects that broke the mold despite having the usual 'group of people killed off by psycho' narrative Friday the 13th for example. Yeah I know. I've seen a lot of these despite not really being into them because my friend was obsessed with grindhouse cinema stuff. My favorite is still Behind The Mask because it so accurately broke down the slasher tropes. Lol always the virgin is that one female who is going to survive. Ortega isn't a virgin and also partakes in the sin but they still setup that dichotomy in the beginning between her and the rest of them, she's pure hearted. These movies are boring as fuck tho because nothing happens for most of the runtime. You just see a mediocre "young people hanging out" story with some murder shoved in at the end. I actually stopped watching in the middle because I was so bored. I only mentioned it because like I said their seems to be a cuckwave in media right now. Makes sense since it is in the zeitgeist, but I just don't really remember media embracing cuckoldry as a positive thing before and all of a sudden it's everywhere.
No.41454
>>41451We have a star trek thread in the catalog and an older thread that reached bump limit in archive.
>t.OP of the first star trek thread here. >>41452>the premise is fine if you don't take it to some degenerate sexual angle. Basically my point, but without the sexual angle it's basically just Frankenstein's Monster but Rule 63'd
>The whole thing sounds like something an incel would dream up but the director is turning it around and going, "yeah she wants to fuck hot assholes who want to pump and dump her instead of you while using you as a fall back after she got thousand cock stare from the sucking half the cocks in Paris, …. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING chinlet!"Sounds accurate, the director's every film is obsessed with sex and the ideological overtones are all liberal in every film. The part with Bella 'learning socialism' amidst a brothel is like every other liberal writer and their succ-dem comprehension of leftism.
>>41453>I've seen a lot of these despite not really being into them because my friend was obsessed with grindhouse cinema stufI saw a lot as a teen because bootleg stuff was cheap in the early 2000s and it was just to have a fun time watching stuff we weren't supposed to.
>I only mentioned it because like I said their seems to be a cuckwave in media right now. Makes sense since it is in the zeitgeist, but I just don't really remember media embracing cuckoldry as a positive thing before and all of a sudden it's everywhere. It's the internet, NTR-shit and so on has made the fetish more available to find and sexual frustrations can sometimes leak into new fetishes like this. Considering how healthy relationships are becoming rarer (in the Western hemisphere at least) it's not surprising the increased cheating and cuckshit is prevalent - its a reflection of the material social environment.
No.41458
>>41454>We have a star trek thread in the catalog and an older thread that reached bump limit in archive. Yeah, but it's not the same.
No.41463
>>40959>What was the message of the movie?yorgos lanthimos likes wacky focal lengths and mentally stunted people having sex
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