Alright filmfags, show me what you've got.
<S Tier - Timeless
>Tarkovsky: Stalker, Andrei Rublev, Solaris
>Klimov: Come and See
>Bela Tarr: Turin Horse, Werckmeister Harmonies, Satantango (all very demanding)
>Bergman: Persona, Seventh Seal
>Herzog: Aguirre (I love them all but this one stands apart)
>Kubrick: 2001
<A Tier - Food for the soul
>Visconti: The Leopard, Rocco and his Brothers
>Fellini: La Dolce Vita, Amarcord
>De Sica: Bicycle Thieves, Umberto D.
>Pontecorvo: Battle of Algiers
>Cocteau: Orpheus, Blood of a Poet
>Godard: Breathless, Band of Outsiders, The Little Soldier
>Kurosawa: Yojimbo, Throne of Blood, Ran
>Mizoguchi: Sansho, Ugetsu
>Kobayashi: Seppuku, Human Condition
>Fritz Lang: Dr. Mabuse, Metropolis, M
>Bunuel: Discreet Charm, Simon of the Desert, The Exterminating Angel
>Kieslowski: Dekalog
>David Lynch: Anything, including Twin Peaks old and new.
>Ki-duk Kim: Spring, Summer…
>Gilliam: Brazil
>Kubrick (pt. 2): The Shining, Clockwork Orange, Dr. Strangelove, FMJ
<A- Tier - Entertainment
>Cronenberg: Naked Lunch, Dead Ringers
>Billy Wilder: One, Two, Three, Sunset Blvd, Witness for the Prosecution
>Becker: Le Trou, Touchez pas au Grisbi
>Melville: Army of Shadows, Le Cercle Rouge, Bob le Flambeur
>Clouzot: Diabolique, Wages of Fear (the ultimate languagefag film)
>Bresson: A Man Escaped, Pickpocket
>Renoir: The Grand Illusion, Rules of the Game
>Ferrara: Bad Lieutenant, King of NY
>Jodorowsky: The Holy Mountain, Santa Sangre
>Peckinpah: Straw Dogs, Alfredo Garcia
>Woody Allen: Annie Hall. All the other old-and-good ones too.
>Carpenter: The Thing, They Live
>Tarantino: Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs
>Scorsese: Kind of Comedy, Taxi Driver. The rest can kinda fuck off.
>Hitchcock: Pretty much all of them.
Let's talk about movies, then. Don't have to be lefty films but obviously recommendations on that front are also welcome.
>>1660>>Scorsese: Kind of Comedy, Taxi Driver. >The rest can kinda fuck off.why tho
>>1660I could post a list but it would be so much the inverse of yours that I don't think it would be fruitful discussion.
>>1661Bit harsh maybe. He made some other good ones but those two are apart imo.
>>1663Wait, wouldn't that actually make it fruitful tho?
>>1663Post it
What did you lads think about the Irishman? Gonna watch it today.
>>1664>>1665Ok well alright. I'll just post my IMDB ratings
10 rated:
Network (1976)
Children of Men (2006)
Canadian Bacon (1995)
American Beauty (1999)
The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
Battlestar Galactica (2003)
Untouchable (2011)
Actually never mind, I just realised there's a share list feature, you can press 'sort by: top rated' to see the top stuff.
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur46013471/ratings >>1667>Avengers 1 starBased.
>>1672I haven't seen any of the capeshit/new Star Wars movies tbh but there was a brief period when Avengers Whatever had a higher score on the top 250 than The Godfather which I think is a travesty… and I don't even like the Godfather.
>>1667> The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure (2012)lol what
>>1667Network is mega-based. I actually can't believe I forgot Sydney Lumet on my list got dam.
>Sydney Lumet: Network, Death Trap, Dog Day Afternoon.I still haven't seen Children of Men yet but people seem to like it. Will check it soon.
Alright so some movies which I'd put in my top ten which people probably haven't seen would be:
Paths of Glory(Surprised nobody knows about it since it's a Kubrik, but it did get buried by the French government for telling French history [i]accurately[/i] COMPLETELY FALSE, THE FRENCH NEVER LOST A WAR!)
Tora Tora Tora(simply because of how accurate it is compared to some *cough* other films)
The Seven Samurai
The Lobster(I have a soft spot for absurdism that manages to tell a play in film format)
The French Connection(nothing revolutionary but it's quite accurate and tells the story it sets out to without convoluting it)
>>1674IIRC I voted that because a story came out that they were stuffing their own reviews and scores and that behaviour should be punished. Then I saw it in my list again that I gave it a 1 and thought 'well maybe that's a little harsh'.
what's that fucking movie where a woman starts to cry because she can't believe how much less medicine costs in another country than in her own I've been looking for it ever since I saw someone mention that scene all the way back to old 8chan /leftypol/ FUCK which movie is it
All right here's my top films:
Come and See
A Boy and his Dog
Reservoir Dogs
Akira
Taxi Driver (hated the ending tho)
Full Metal Jacket
Rango (that one is a real hidden gem)
Super Bad
Libertarias
I don’t watch movies that much, but here’re my top 5 anyways:
>Casablanca
>the godfather
>12 angry men
>Joker
>Judgment at Nuremberg
I should probably start watching some soviet films tbh. Even /tv/tards shill for them.
>>1693I love 12 Angry Men, tho it is sort of peak liberalism
My 5 favorite, probably in this order:
>Paris, Texas
>Sunset Boulevard
>Vertigo
>The Brood
>Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes
Pretty random makeup I guess, but these are the movies I've enjoyed the most so far.
>>1676>Paths of GloryLove that one, would be my favorite of Kubrick if it wasn't for Dr Strangelove. The ending of Paths of Glory always strikes an emotional chord inside me, just like It's a wonderful life.
>Network (1976)Mega based.
>I love 12 Angry Men, tho it is sort of peak liberalismYeah, but the film still expresses the best that liberalism gave us. It's really emotive and strong.
What are some Soviet kinos?
>>1693Tarkovsky GANG
Do yourself a favor and check it out. It's not for everyone and you might not like it, but you have to try.
Hey, has anyone seen "parasite" yet?
People keep telling me it's good, but I keep hearing its analysis of class is shit.
Opinions?
>>1708>TarkovskyYeah. I’ve just found his stuff on youtube, gonna watch it tonight.
I liked The three colours trilogy. Especially Blue even though Red is the better film
Currently checking out Kanopy for the first time through my public library. Anyone familiar with their catalogue and have any recommendations, preferably for foreign films? Deep cuts and classics are appreciated. I like French New Wave and Italian Neorealism but have seen most of the big names out of those movements (Godard, Truffaut, De Sica, et al.)
Anyone got good and gritty Soviet war films that aren’t Come and See?
What is your take on Fight Club? Not class conscious enough? Better than usual? Not enough?
The Cranes are Flying is top tier Sovietkino
>>1660I just finished reading Roadside Picnic and am about to watch Stalker. Really looking forwards to it, never seen anything by Tarkovsky before.
How many fucking film threads are there FFS?
>>4599Let us know what you think once you're finished!
>>1701>Paris, TexasI always forget this film when thinking of my favourites. A film that knows to take its time and not rely on constant shock and awe is always a pleasure.
Всем Русско-говоряшим смотреть!
[BadComedian] - На Париж (#СпасибоДедуЗаШалаву)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OmC1HcTGBc>>1713The sound on YouTube is shit, but I guess that comes from the entire restauration that was fucked up by the uploader (the official russian film archive I guess). You can hear that everything was redubbed, the foleys aren't right, etc. Are all versions available on the internet like this? Or should I wait for an obscure festival to have a original analog film projection?
No love for Pasolini?
>>4633I enjoyed the Decameron. I consider Salo a failed film, and not because of the shock factor. Been a while since I've seen it though.
Which one is your favorite?
Who else wants the last Blockbuster in the world to stay? I hope it survives and can be a sort of museum. There were 9,000 of them around the world, but now there is only one left and it's in Oregon.
https://youtu.be/jJMEPHNjHE0>>5002Blockbuster was a fucking legend, back when Netflix was sending CDs in the mail and online movies were unvailable except through Russian hacker torrents and Piratebay. I want that building of Nostalgia to stay up, its a great memory of simpler times.
The Soviet war series "liberation" is now on YT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0t5CHhsuaM>>1678Perhaps it was Sicko (2007) by Michael Moore?
>A documentary comparing the highly profitable American health care industry to other nations, and HMO horror stories including shotgun deaths.
>Writer/producer Michael Moore interviews Americans who have been denied treatment by our health care insurance companies – companies who sacrifice essential health services in order to maximize profits. The consequences for the individual subscribers range from bankruptcy to the unnecessary deaths of loved ones.
>Moore then looks at universal free health care systems in Canada, France, Britain, and Cuba, debunking all the fears (lower quality of care, poorer compensation for doctors, big-government bureaucracy) that have been used to dissuade Americans from establishing such a system here. The roots of those health care systems are explored, and our failure to establish free health here care is traced to a) President Richard Nixon's deceptive support of the then-emerging HMOs pursuing huge profits and b) subsequent pressures for Congress to sacrifice sound health care in favor of corporate profit.
>A group of Americans who became ill from volunteering at 911 Ground Zero, but were refused health coverage for their illnesses, are ferried by Moore to Cuba, where they receive the top-rate, free care one would hope they'd get here at home.
>In his interviews, historical reportage, and typical sarcastic wit, Moore soundly condemns American health insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies, as well as the politicians who have been paid millions to do their bidding. He makes the case that there is something wrong with Americans that we cannot learn from the successes of other countries in providing better quality-of-health than we enjoy in the USA. >>1678>>5073Oh, yeah, I think it definitely is! Here's the scene:
https://youtu.be/j7cME3lCdwE?t=854(that's 14:14 in the video)
I hope you're still around, anon
>>5105All I know about midsommar is that some girl ik posted about about it and I hate her so now i dont want to see the movie
>>5625For those who don't know the film takes place in Francoist Spain.
>>5626I recommend you to watch it, it's great, trust me I'm not the girl you hate.
>2 film threads
>both are good quality
<fuckers still post independent OPs for esoteric shit
Pathetic
>>6325Brainlets like to feel special.
>when the 2 film threads are both on Page 1
LOL
>how do you even measure the intellectual level of movies or do you just 'feel' like they are?You measure by how they treat the viewer. As an example, in Captain Marvel there is a scene where she's breaking out of her chains. If the writer thinks the viewer is a retard, they'll add a shot of a side character going "She's breaking out!", which is exactly what they did. For a movie that expects its viewer to be moderately intelligent they'll assume the viewer can pick up on visual clues, like in Alita: Battle Angel (which doesn't require you to be a genius but you'll miss some stuff if you're not paying attention).
This has to do with the changing nature of the film business because of competition from streaming. The number of films released by major studios is down, as are the prospects of mid-budget films
https://www.the-numbers.com/market/ https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/05/is-the-mid-budget-movie-an-endangered-species The studios are competing by betting on epic big budget films, much as they did in the sixties in their first battle with television. They also have the advantage of playing about as well everywhere in the world.
So, when you're spending 200 million on a single film, your focus is going to be on making sure the investment pays off, not innovation or art. That's why nearly all big movies are adaptations, reboots or sequels and why they're all so samey. The Marvel films in particular have hit upon a very efficient formula. Modern information technology has allowed media companies to narrow down the most safe and profitable content in media produced today.
They almost always have generic plots. And the epic ending is usually either battling thousands of faceless drones or fighting a villain who monologues every time the fight is about to transition, the serious hero says something serious, the jokey hero says a quip, then they generically fight some more, then something something sky beam does shit, the villain gets arrogant because the plan is working, then the hero says the final quip and the villain makes an “oh shit” face then dies.
Avengers, Age of Ultron, Infinity War, Thor Ragnarok, both Guardian of the Galaxy movies, Endgame and Black Panther to name just a few marvel movies all do this.
The reason this slides and is liked is because they don't know nor understand alternatives of the past or future. People have no hope so they look up to mythological tales set in modern era and the destruction takes place which one might enjoy in a nihilistic way. It very much reflects many more simple hero-stories of Greek Mythology, however lacking the counterbalances in the form of tales of Oedipus, Orpheus and Phersephone, the Illiad and Hercules' labours. These criticized many aspects of over-powered Greek heroes like Theseus, who just win at everything and are smarter and stronger than anyone they meet.
This reflects Adorno's laments on cultural decay and machinization, in his theory of social spectacle and the resulting industry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-m_7G31yh4 I wonder from time to time if Adorno and the other Frankfurts were purposefully targeted as conspirators specifically because cultural degradation has always been a reactionary racket, and the right didn't want competition from the left in the marketplace. After all, the CIA has literally admitted to helping this along, with people like Gloria Steinhem being their direct assets as well as Ghettofication and subsequent thug subculture after revolutionary leaders were removed and replaced by angry liberals.
>https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/how-the-cia-created-gangsta-rap.701728/ >https://newspunch.com/cia-hip-hop/ >https://daily.jstor.org/was-modern-art-really-a-cia-psy-op/ >>10320there is nothing wrong with pouring beer on your tits
>>16531
I've seen this, but so long ago that I've forgotten the actual movie. Imma watch later. Maybe respond
>>1712its very good and not as on the nose as a lot of the praise and detraction might make you think.
Been really into Pasolini lately, recently watched Arabian Nights and Salo or 120 Days of Sodom. Both were masterpieces, though I'm not sure Arabian Nights would resonate with someone who hasn't read the source before.
A lot of old stuff here, I will try to give a list of recent directors (alongside two films) and draw a hardline at the millenium (though most are within the decade).
Flannel blanket with hot cocoa tier:
> Jim Cummings: Thunder Road, The Wolf Of Snow Hollow
> Kantamir Balagov: Beanpole, Closeness
> Jonathon Glaser: Under The Skin, Birth, Sexy Beast
> Nuri Bilge Ceylan: Winter's Sleep, Once Upon A Time In Anatolia
> Thomas Clay: Fanny Lye Deliver'd, The Great Ecstasy Of Robert Carmichael
Fluffy quilt tier:
> Peter Strickland: In Fabric, the Duke Of Burgundy
> Richard Ayoade: Submarine, The Double
> Park Chan Wook: I'm A Cyborg And That's Ok, The Handmaiden
> Yorgos Lanthimos: Dogtooth, The Lobster
> Quentin Dupieux: Wrong, Rubber
Decent Blanket Tier:
> Jeff Nichols: Take Shelter, Midnight Special
> John Cameron Mitchell: Hedwig and the Angry Inch, How To Talk To Girls At Parties
> Darren Aronofsky: Black Swan, The Fountain
> Ben Wheatley: A Field In England, Kill List
> Panos Cosmatos: Mandy, Beyond The Black Rainbow
> Daniel Scheinert: The Death Of Dick Long, Swiss Army Man
Honourable mentions to some filmmakers still at it but also span back a while so I didn't include above:
Peter Greenaway: Eisenstein In Guanajuato, Drowning By Numbers
Mike Leigh: Peterloo, Naked
>>13819Please, kinophile anons, could you tell me what's so great about the film Rubber?
I got curious about it ike 5 years ago, but never to to actually watching it
>>13820Would you like a pretentious essay or the truth? Because to be honest I just found it funny and liked that it took plot turns I didn't expect it to while the on screen audience reacted basically how various people I know would react to the movie.
>>13821Yeah that's fine. It it's genuinely funny and doesn't get repetitive I'll watch it.
are there any geiger alien movies besides the first two that are worth watching?
Has anyone watched the movie King Charles III?
What did you make of it?
Here it is for those who are interested:
https://vimeo.com/445148461>>14059looks like some fed glowie shit ngl.
Everyday this scorsese guy whines about muh art form
They make millions and weep for the imaginary indie director or some shit
Why can't these old directors shut the fuck up with their pile of money.
Film is not a important cultural issue to be talking about in pop culture. Pretentious rich cunts should die off.
I hate every director with a passion, They are high off their own asses
Watched À Bout de Souffle (1960) last night after checking out La Chinoise (1967), liking the latter but being too tired to finish it.
My god, I fucking hated À Bout de Souffle - they say La Chinoise isn't "good" as a first Godard because it represents a pretty big departure from classic French New Wave toward a more purely didactic style, but I actually found that more innovative, engaging and daring than the self-absorbed meaninglessness of À Bout de Souffle. That surface-level conversation, that smugly style-over-substance attitude, those insufferable midwit main characters, is that just what the French New Wave usually is or am I totally missing something? Or are there other films by Godard that simply evolve the same style in a more interesting direction (I've heard good things about Vivre Sa Vie [1962])?
>>1660The first film I'll contribute is Stanley Kubrick's Barry Lyndon, here's a video showcasing some of its best shots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcLZU3_XNMo. It's not just visually beautiful, it's a great drama, every scene is captivating and the protagonist Redmond Barry (later, Barry Lyndon) is relatable and multi-dimensional. The acting is great, the cinematography is amazing. It's a little bit long at over 3 hours, but you don't ever feel like Kubrick wasted time or included filler. Silent moments are full of meaning, which is communicated by the environment or by the actions of the characters of the scene. Go watch it, it's great.
>>1660>>14678Elia Kazan's A Face in the Crowd is an engaging drama that explores the cost of fame, and at the same time criticizes the media industry for it. Andy Griffith's performance is legendary and elevates the film into a must-watch. It isn't beautiful like Barry Lyndon, but it has good cinematography, dramatic scenes make good use of shadows and camera motion. The actors, especially Andy Griffith, express an impressive amount of emotion through facial expressions alone. Must-watch if you enjoy dramas.
BTW I know that the director Elia Kazan is kind of anathema to leftists b/c of his testimony to HUAC but at the same time this movie has a redeeming theme in its criticism of the culture industry. One of my favorite films ever.
>>14679Thought I should add that it's a lot more than just a criticism of the culture industry, it criticizes racism, sexism, the sexualization of minors, and elitism, among others
>>14235Agree tbh. A bout de souffle is the beginning, and imo the evolution of Godard during the new wave period is what made him compelling as a director moreso than any particular film. Have you seen Le Mépris (1963) or Pierrot le fou (1965)? You can feel the evolution in motion very keenly in both of those and it's very engaging.
If you liked La Chinoise I'd recommend Tout va bien (1972). It has a coherent narrative structure and a far less cynical dialogue/consideration of the left while remaining unabashedly experimental. If I do have a favorite movie of his, it's probably this one.
>>14678>>14679Based. Two classics I've missed but heard about. You've definitely sold me on both. I'll report here when I've seen them!
This is a music video, but it uses scenes from a very beautiful 1973 dutch movie called Turks Fruits
https://youtu.be/ksEHfUof184>>13941Ah yes, give one of your main characters a face contraption that makes it really hard to understand what he's saying
>Klimov: Come and See
Out of all soviet films you had to pick this one. Plebean taste.
>>15478Kinda missed that. The thing is, it doesn't change what is said. Those films are pretty meh or even shit compared to what soviet cinema can offer. Unless you are some fart-sniffin liberal
>>15479How about you post the "best ones" then, comrade of impeccable taste?
>>15483Чапаев, Великий Гражданин, Доживем до понедельника, Премия, Кин-дза-дза.
If we also add TV series then Вечный зов and Тени исчезают в полдень.
Plenty of ther ones.
>>15486It's a start, I'll check em out. Thanks.
>>15489I am not sure they have translation or subs to english though.
Any Soviet (or Russian) WW2 movie recommendations? Other than Come and see.
>>5624Because Ken Loach is one of the few prominent Western relics of social realist, explicitly left-wing filmmaking. As modern cinema got increasingly co-opted by liberals and their post-modern views on narratology and art, every movie that is deemed as "having a message" is either banal, surface-level drivel or purposefully ambiguous, preferring meta-commentary and stylistic expression to telling an actual story, honest-to-god story about the working class.
Give me the most depressing film. Not something cheap and moralizing but something that crushes your soul no matter how numb or already disadvantaged you are.
1. Bram Stoker's Dracula( Coppola)
2. Ray Got His Gun
3. Hell comes to Frogtown
4. Speedracer( Wachowsky siblings )
5. Star Wars Prequel Trilogy
6. Norah( Aronovsky)
>>15697"Antichrist" (Von Trier) would fit that description fairly well imo.
>>14059watched it, pretty good
>>1667>Battlestar Galactica (2003)Such a good fucking show
>>15959I don't know anything about that theory. I only know that Tommy Wiseau had seemingly endless amounts of money and won't tell where he got it from.
>>1660Trying to figure out how you managed to not include the Coen borthers.
Also Hitchcock has plenty of excellent films, but when you make over 50 films some of them are duds. Saboteur (1942) is the big one for me
>>15966>>15966>Tommy Wiseau had seemingly endless amounts of money and won't tell where he got it from.who wants to make Tommy Wiseau a communist
>>16094woah he lived in the eastern bloc
>>16272Yes. Air Force One is the tragic tale of how a hero of the Soviet Union was struck down by the American imperialists and their Yeltsinite lapdogs. But there is hope since the Kazakh SSR continues to exist with its nuclear arsenal even at the end of the film.
>>15697Naked by Mike Leigh
It's depressing because it never stop being grimier, and it became soul-crushing to me when
I realized the main character was just a psychopathic pseud, there was nothing profound in all his ramblings, his nihilistic posture is his own way to bully the people around him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g78ELzCaOfAI liked the trailer of this move recently
It reminded me of previews while being in theater during intermissions
>>16283I GOTTA WATCH THIS FILM HOLY SHIT
>>15697Testament of 1983, without a doubt. It's the story about how a family in a Norman Rockwell style close-knit rural town tries to survive the aftermath of an all-out nuclear war. There is no bombing scene, no mushroom cloud, no political context - just a series of bright flashes, the power goes out, never comes back on, and everyone is left to die of starvation and radiation sickness.
Threads is shocking, but
Testament is slow, hopeless despair.
>>16345I wish I could find more movies like it becaause it really made me think about how i act towards everyone
>>16367what's a woo woo
>https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=44066510install qbittorrent if you already don't have
it has a search engine built in
>>16425Woos Woos is WSWS/World Socialist Web Site
>it has a search engine built inNot that anon but I installed it yesterday and you need to install search engines for each torrent site. Any recommendations and where can I get them?
>>16367>>16425I just watched
Miss Marx, thanks for the torrent link. Here's my review:
Well, WoosWoos wasn't wrong. Eleanor Marx's political life is almost entirely kept out of view in favor of her personal relationships with her family and Edward Aveling. After bizarre title credits mutilated in After Effects and set to punk rock, the film begins with a (fictional) eulogy by Eleanor at Karl Marx's funeral, which sets the tone for the rest of the drama: "[Karl and Jenny] never doubted, they never faltered, and they were faithful until death". Immediately after the funeral Eleanor is hit up by Edward Aveling (not present historically), which kicks off a relationship much rockier than the one she just described. What follows is a plodding romantic drama wherein Eleanor struggles to reconcile with Edward's sexual infidelity and profligate spending.
Like I said before, Eleanor's political activities are usually kept in the background as literal set dressing. WoosWoos (of course) denounces the film's "feminist outlook", but this the only trace of this comes from the one sole feminist speech shown in the trailer. I had thought for sure that Eleanor's confrontation with Ernest Belfort Bax would be portrayed. Bax was a leading Marxist theorist with rhetoric similar to today's Men's Rights Activist movement; as an open opponent of women's suffrage he provoked an incensed Eleanor Marx to challenge him to a public debate (Bax refused). Bax is nowhere to be seen, nor any other major figures from the British socialist movement. Instead, the climactic event in the story is a (fictional) deathbed revelation from Engels that Karl Marx was the real father of Freddy Demuth, therefore exposing that her father was just as deceitful as Aveling. (The "Marx's illegitimate son" theory is probably not true, see
https://www.marxists.org/subject/marxmyths/terrell-carver/article.htm)
I have a few more things to nitpick: first, practically none of the figures portrayed in the film are recognizable compared to their historic photographs. This can be forgiven for the lead roles, but a little extra makeup would go a long way for fans of the Marxist Cinematic Universe to spot cameos in the background, like Liebknecht, Bernstein, etc. Second, while all the actors give decent performances, the script is flawed. It waters down the political content and adds exposition (IE, no family nicknames like "Mohr" and "The General"), but apparently not enough to appease general critics. On the flipside of this the Marxist audience is slighted, the characterization of Engels for example feels completely wrong. Enough things have been changed for dramatic license that I don't trust the characterization of Eleanor to be "real". Finally, the anachronistic punk rock soundtrack is cringeworthy every single time it shows up. The absolute worst scene is the inexplicable dance sequence at the end, which - apparently - symbolizes the moment Eleanor decided to end her life.
Overall score: 1.5/4 stars. TL;DR: plodding romantic drama devoid of political content that fails both as entertainment and as a historic biopic. Skip unless you're really bored.
>>16464>Marxist Cinematic Universe lol
I hope they showed engles speech on marx's funeral
>the characterization of Engels for example feels completely wrongYOO HE'S ACTUALLY IN THE MOVIE?!??
>Eleanor Marx's political life is almost entirely kept out of view you say it is kept out of view but here in the excerpt it looks pretty clear front and center, is this the only instance of it? and I see what you mean by "using the political activities as literal set dressing"
>>16467>I hope they showed engles speech on marx's funeralUnfortunately, no. Although thinking about it reminds me of his characterization again, the Engels shown in the movie could never deliver that famous speech.
>YOO HE'S ACTUALLY IN THE MOVIE?!??Not as an essential role but yes, he has a few scenes. Pic related is him in the movie.
>you say it is kept out of view but here in the excerpt it looks pretty clear front and center, is this the only instance of it?Pretty much yes. There is a montage style scene showing her day-to-day political work that I excerpted from, then one more speech that implies Aveling's abuse inspired Eleanor to become a feminist. This biopic of a famous revolutionary has maybe five minutes worth of political content.
i've never watched network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJcwhat is this speech about
is it the corporate character going full "capitalism is everything, there is no idpol" type speech
i can't be arsed to listen to the entire thing
>>16476Watch the movie, it's even on the /leftypol/ reading list AND a top movie of all time.
If you don't have time or are a lazy bastard:
The main character, news anchor Howard Beale, suffered a mental breakdown and rants about the world being shit. His jaded boss lets it air because "it's the truth", and instead of being fired, Beale becomes start of a televangelist-like show. He has delusions of being a prophet, and at one point he learns about and preaches against how the TV station's conglomerate parent is about to be sold to the Saudis. A chairman of the conglomerate, Arthur Jensen (Ned Beatty), then brings him to a room and performs this speech to manipulate him into preaching his "corporate cosmology", similar to what you said, a 'money is the quantum of life today, there aren't nations or peoples, just money', which he claims will someday bring a post-warfare, post-scarcity, post-mortal utopia. (The "why me?" back and forth at the end verbatim mirrors what Beale claimed God had said to him in an earlier scene) >>16477so what exactly is the movie about
>>16478Literally? Read the wikipedia synopsis.
Thematically? A satire of television corporate media in general, in particular profit-over-morals, media circus, media desensitization and dehumanization.
what is the ideology/story of citizen kane?
i've never watched it
>>16588who the fuck is this orange uhyga and why the fuck is he everywhere
https://twitter.com/johencho/status/1407076394652225549I don't get it
Why is everybody saying the boyfriend from Devil Wears Prada was bad and the villain?
From where I see it, He was the right one. She was becoming too bougie and he maturely left her
why do people like boogie nights
from the wikipedia film summary it sounds like just another story about rags to riches than to rags again because of sex and drugs story
is it the dialogue and acting that's good about it? because it sure doesn't sound the like the story is anything special.
>>16980No, should we ? what is it about ?
>>17906It was good / fresh for its time, but it aged like milk imo. Saw it when I was young and even back then I realized it's a shit film.
>>17911reading the letterboxd reviews made me think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, i felt insane
somebody quoted a line from the movie and it was the goofiest shit imaginable. something out of cartoon. but they wrote up so much fluff on how great the movie is.
sometimes i feel like people just keep this long prank going on where they praise a thing because others are praising it too just to keep some random semblance of status quo going on
do you remember anything else about watching it in theatres? it's been a long while since i've been in one
recount anything if you can
2001 like most of Kubrick's work is overrated garbage
Some of my favorites:
> Chinatown> Solaris / (Mirror, Stalker)> Vertigo/ (Rear View, Psycho)> Salo, or 120 Days of Sodom> Akira>>16477Network is garbage and the director is a Proudhonist
and an actual Zionist - his Marxist hateboner is apparent too.
accelerationAcceleration>>17934What's so bad about Kubrick
>>16472It's the same shit as every other "girlboss" movie coming out in the past decade - generic, ironically sexist to both men and women and disgustingly stupid.
>>17936I just think he's an overrated hack with above-average shots. Eyes Wide Shut is good, but I fucking hate everything else he's made especially 2001 - and its insulting to put him next to actual auteurs like Polanski/Tarkovsky/Ozu etc
accelerationAcceleration >>15697Груз 200
Awful film (see
>>10107 ) but made in such a way that it leaves you black inside - I only recommend if you like being suicidal.
>>15616А Зори Здесь Тихий
Отец Солдата
Они Срожались За Родину
В Бой Идут Одни Старики
Освобождение
Аты Баты Шли Солдаты
Жаворонок (1965)
>>13798 Try Archive.is, the site must have made itself PPV
>>17934The director is anarchist?
Why does he hate marxists
>>17936Speaking of Kubrick what did that furry oral sex in the Shining mean?
It's so fucking weird and confusing
>>16470why is my mans looking like dr.frasier claus
>>17951It was a garbage film but despite him being portrayed as an idiot, The Captain was the best character in the movie.
Also
>Tattooing "Karl Marx" on your knuckles is a weird thing to do even for a communist More than weird, it was something Prisoners would tattoo in the GULAG to mock communists.
>>17945Ah sry the screenwriter I meant,I actually like the director (mash is great which he also dirrcted) but the screenwriter was a Zionist socdem (his words) but his vision is essentially proudhonist if you watch the film.
accelerationAcceleration >>17954>More than weird, it was something Prisoners would tattoo in the GULAG to mock communists.wtf how does that mock the communists
did they think they would escape out and beat the communists with their fists thus being ironic?
>>17951What film is that? I don't watch Marvel.
>>17964well yes that irony is a part of it, but frankly it' a bit hard to explain Russian prison life, myself being aware of it only through people I knew who were there. It's similar to people tattooing religious figures and other stuff on themselves in prison there, there is a double meaning within the criminal world, that only criminals really know, like the origins of their nicknames and such.
>>18003The Black Widow movies, basically it's that shitty Red Sparrow but less graphic and with bad humor thrown in.
Best Laid Plans is forgotten kino. IMHO
>>1660I watched Aguirre the other day; great film.
egoismEgoism Anyone seen picrel? It has some pretty good reviews.
It's a chinese movie about communist spies that received training in the Soviet Union doing a job over at the puppet state of Manchuko.
Trailer:
https://youtu.be/dlQYk0O56HU>>18426 (me)
I've watched it, and it's a very good spy movie. At the beginning, we see one of the communists spilling out details about the operation to avoid being shot, but our four protagonists don't know about it. The operation is kaput from the start, which makes sure the movie is always tense. All of the spies are smart, making moves to withhold/extract information from others. This feels exactly like what a spy movie should feel.
Unfortunately, I can't say I enjoyed the movie to it's fullest. There were moments where I couldn't absorb new information fast enough. All the characters wear the same clothes, which did not make things easier, plus I find remembering their names quite hard. A character/event flowchart would be a welcome companion while watching it.
From what I've been able to research, this is actually a prequel to the 2012 tv show "悬崖" (Cliff) by the same writer, Quan Yongxian. In an interview (
https://inf.news/entertainment/bd5332246260958e06dc8ead644ec3da.html), he said that in 2015 he had written the script for this prequel as a 60-episode show.
If this had been a tv show – or even a book –, where things could flow in a more friendly pace, this would've been a absolute must watch. Overall, it is a very good movie, and I recommend anyone interested to watch it, even though you'll scratch your head sometimes and may wish to rewind a bit to understand what is happening (though I didn't, and was still able to enjoy it very much).
>>18429Everything I know about Soul Plane, I learned from The Boondocks.
Anyone seen L'An 01?
>The film narrates a utopian abandonment, consensual and festive of the market economy and high productivity. The population decides on a number of resolutions, beginning with "Let's stop everything," and the second "After a period of total stoppage, let's bring back — reluctantly — just the services and products we can't do without. Probably : water to drink, electricity for reading at night, the radio to say 'This is not the end of the world, this is Year 1, and now a page of Celestial Mechanics." The implementation of these resolutions is the first day of a new era, Year 1. L'An 01 is emblematic of the challenge of the 1970s and covers such diverse topics as ecology, negation of authority, free love, communal living, rejection of private property and labor.
Have no idea whether to watch the 90s Treasure Island movie first or read the book first
might also watch the 50s version and Muppets version after just out of curiousitypiratePirate
Ayy montecellos (New word I just invented)
Is Godzilla vs King Kong a fun movie fully to watch?
I don't mean like are there 2 minutes of good fights and comedy
Is the entire experience fun to watch?
Is it plagued by the same problems of the other monsterverse movies where the human characters are utterly boring?
>>18429I'll watch this
It looks like there'll be boobs innit
I hate the only theatres shit so much.
I want to pirate Free Guys and watch it when it comes out not 6 months after. I liked the forced digital shit HBO did
If we weren't living in capitalism. This wouldn't even be a problem. We would still have theatres for the culture without forcefully releasing first only on theatres for muh economy.
>>18958try Kinogo.la, thy have all the versions of nearly every film and tv series from all sorts of countries and can be downloaded
>>18882>Is Godzilla vs King Kong a fun movie fully to watchThere's a good review of the movie from a cinematographical perspective on the /m/ thread on
>>>/anime/ It's a fun, cheesy but generally silly movie, so maybe not to your tastes.
>>18973Thanks for the new piracy site
>>18974And Thanks for the review. I feel like I can enjoy this movie.
>>18980>I can enjoy this movieI certainly did, and I'm glad to help both with the review and the site.
What's the best version of Les Miserables?
>>17934>>17945>>18011Death of the author, bitch! The politics or intent of the creator are irrelevant in mainstream mass media
>>10320Someone screencap this effort post
>>20577carpenter was a paleo libertarian or something
Any good East German movies around 1930s-ww2? I've watched the Thalmann movie and Ich War Neunzehn.
Who here /cassavetes/ ? Bout to watch my first tonight. Love Streams (1984)
>>16479You forgot the part about the militant black leftist organization and the absurdity of capitalist media recuperating revolutionary ideas.
I feel that was a big part of it.
>>13941Xi Jinping and Jack Ma holding a friendly conversation
https://letterboxd.com/film/desert-blues/anybody know where i can find this movie?
>>16345it literally starts off with him raping a woman in an alley
that should've made it crystal clear
Top 5, no particular order
>Salo
>Caché (Haneke)
>Trainspotting
>Bronson
>Institute Benjamenta
>>24825>Foundation for Economic EducationAre they chinlets?
>>24826Most of them are, BUT the video I posted is actually an interesting analysis from a market perspective and doesn't have anything dissing leftism or socialism or whatever. I don't agree with the entire video BUT it makes a good point on intersectional feminism and the victim-blaming that Hollywood does.
>>24826Literal Mises stans, but sometimes they get things right.
>>24825>a great deal of contempt for millions of americanswould be based if true
is this RRR movie actually good or is it just viral marketing
i don't get it, is it even crazier than bollywood movie or is its story/acting good that's the draw?
>>25756idk maybe watch it
>>25758his movies were inspired by the italian version of pulp fiction
how did you not realize it was schlock
>>25757no way
that's fucked up, watching a movie?
what is this, a film general
>>25763he got pussy instead of blowing up rich industrialists
still a W, I guess
>>25825what movie will todd howard rip off this time?
there's nothing left, is there
the king of comedy, taxi driver
>>25825>Did anyone ask for this?the higherups,you can't make money out of a movie without making sequels until it no longer makes money.
>>25834Silence of The Lambs crossed with It.
>>25825Joker 2: The Punchline
Is american psycho the most materialist movie of our time?
>>25834This is why the dark knight returns was such a memefest, the writer thought of as rises as the conclusion of the story but was made to put out anything, anything, for the third movie
>>25825Maybe it is about the batman but instead of a caped hero hes a bateman who brutalizes random people thinking theyre super villains?
how dyou guys find movies? You just watch everything from a given director, happen to hear about another, and repeat, or what?
>>25825Apparently the sequel's about him meeting Harley Quinn, probably so we can get a spinoff Harley Quinn movie and the Joker Cinematic Universe.
>>25926Hopefully we will finally get an unironic femcel representation.
>>25926it's gonna be a musical
what movies are they take inspiration from
>>25924letterboxd, the site i watch movies from, social media
i have like 300 movies on my watchlist, there's loads and loads of ways to find movies
there's also facts about movies, actors and film and inspirations from stuff you've already watched
>>25924imdb, repertory cinemas, dvd/blu-ray releases and catalogues
kino lorber, re:voir and criterion are good places to start
>>25938don't use letterboxd, it's full of american college students and terrible for finding the good shit since most people focus on absolute garbage and schlock
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2022/04/dog-day-afternoon-liz-eden-littlejohn-basso-al-pacino-trans-historyDog Day Afternoon
Idk what marxist shit there is to analyse in film but there's something that's said in this article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ari_Aster>Ari Aster (born July 15, 1986) is an American film director, screenwriter, and producer. He is best known for writing and directing the A24 horror films Hereditary (2018), Midsommar (2019), and Disappointment Blvd. (2023). >best known for directing a movie that isn't out yetis this guy a fucking plant or what
>>27007>AA> Aster then followed up with a breakout short film The Strange Thing About the Johnsons, which stars Billy Mayo, Brandon Greenhouse, and Angela Bullock as members of a suburban family in which the son is involved in an abusive incestuous relationship with his father.Imagine being gay with your dad is real
>>26983y would ken be an incel?
>>27007>>27033Midsommar started out so good then just ended completely retarded. I know people acting retarded and not being suspicious of obvious suspicious stuff is a staple of the slasher genre, but still, it went from classy horror flick to B movie horror shlock. Maybe even worse because every single person acted retarded and unaware right up to the moment they were killed. You'd expect at least a couple of the people in the movie to catch on eventually. Seemed like he was just too lazy to film someone getting chased through the woods or something.
>>27239midsommar was made in only a few months iirc, and a lot of people involved including the director regretted how it turned out
Have I got a double bill for you.
Don't look them up, go in cold. Watch in this order:
Winstanley (1975)
Fanny Lye Deliver'd (2019)
Start your torrents.
>>27533thanks man, now i have plans for tonight
>>27537Do it. We can post at each other tomorrow.
>>27550pretty sure it's a gusano movie about Fidel's daughter Alina who rebels against all the awful communism and remains an anti-communist activist to this day
>>27550Race and LGBT stuff will probably take main focus if it's a drama and if it's a comedy then "commies bad and dumb". Otherwise may wind up getting scrapped and never made.
>>27551>Alina who rebels against all the awful communism and remains an anti-communist activist to this dayI hope the US is at least paying her well.
>>27550All casting controversy aside, they are probably gonna do it in English, so what's the point?
All in all, it seems like a shitty project, as the other anon pointed about it just sounds like gusano propaganda.
Pic related was at least pretty well made.
>>27549As if it wasn't obvious enough it was going to be a piece of shit. Unless they have some genius idea, this will be up there as one of the most unnecessary sequels ever.
>>27550>>27609I wonder how much they want to do this based on Death of Stalin being praised. I mean it's James Franco lol. IDK how they'd try to make him do a serious biopic. He does vaguely look similar to Fidel but he's a gringo and Fidel is definitely way outside his acting range. Huge miscast that suggests it's going to be mocking Castro.
>>27622Movies just keep getting better, the future is bright kinobros
>>27622Whatever happned in the early 2000's?
>>27625proliferation of independent news others and review sources that aren't economically beholden to studios and related corporations for survival
>>27583Ohhh yes, that's the one! Thank you!
How do you feel about Jordan Peele so far? A lot of people here are probably turned off by how kainstream he was from the get-go. Get Out was good though white liberals don't seem to get that it's about them and their racism. I'm not even sure what Us was supposed to be about (MKULTRA maybe?). Nope is probably the best of his films so far in delivering a coherent message to the audience (it's very Debordian).
>>27664In this climate anybody who's kind of unique and gets the auteur license to do whatever without having to mold it into what's considered marketable is preferable to the standard.
>>27664it’s just horror schlock
>>27629LMFAO literally the opposite
actual independent news sources have their own cash flows that are clearly not coming from the movie industry, meanwhile randos on the internet could easily be hired shills and trolls
>>27666Nope is barely even horror, it's more of a thriller with some horror and neo-western elements
>>27976Is he a "hipster" or does he just have a very particular taste for disgusting pervert movies
>>27976I love TGTBTU, but it's hardly a masterpiece of the medium.
>>27603STOP POSTING JANCSÓ MOVIES. After seeing 1 Jancsó movie, you have seen every single one of them. No narrative, no coherence, all symbolism. You know what's every single Jancsó movie is like?
>empty fucking field>people talking>they start to sing>a soldier comes into the frame>a woman strips nakedAll of this is in a single ~5 minute frame, because the director likes dumping narrative elements in front of a camera instead instead of actually using them to create a narrative. No cutting, that might force Jancsó to arrange the things happening in front of the camera in an orderly way. You can't just have that, you mustn't make a movie comprehendable to humans, because you know, that's not "artistic" and shit. For roughly half a century, the taxpayer money of decent Hungarian working people was wasted on this shit. For the most part this took place under the leadership of a "communist" government. This really tells you a lot about how serious was the committment of Hungarians to communism (the same is true about progress in general and human decency).
You are not the chosen brother, Eli.. t’was Paul, who’s chosen. You see, he found me and told me about your land, you’re a fraud. I did what your brother couldn’t. I broke you and I beat you. It was Paul who told me about you, he’s the prophet. He’s the smart one. He knew what was there, he found me, to take it out of the ground, and you know what the funny thing is? Listen, listen, listen… I paid him 10 thousand dollars, cash in hand [slap] just like that. He has his own company now… a prosperous little business, three wells producing 5 thousand dollars a week. [chinless whimper heard] STOP CRYING, YOU SNIVELLING ASS, STOP YOUR NONSENSE. You’re just a afterbirth, Eli… that slithered up your mother’s filth. They should’ve put you in a glass jar on a mantlepiece. Where were you when Paul was suckling at his mother’s teat, where were you? Who was nursing you, poor Eli?
>>28050Eli Sunday* got him mixed up with the cartoonist
>>28047>what's every single Jancsó movie is like?<describes an obtuse falsificationI don't even like Jancsó but you're being disingenuous.
Maybe you guys already know but there's a cool YT channel that's been uploading Russian (mostly Soviet) movies in full for free. And it seems legit so it shouldn't be taken down cause commie movies == no copyright, I guess??
https://www.youtube.com/c/Mosfilm_eng>>28656I kiss you on the mouth
>>28656Mosfilm has been uploading full length movies from their old catalogue on YouTube for a while, although only in 480p standard definition. They started uploading the full HD versions this year I guess cuz of the sanctions over the invasion. There's also this
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTKpdDNg-FgqRDg7TbIOgoQ why is the Telugu version of RRR so hard to find
We still posting favourite films? Here's a few anyway:
The Ninth Configuration
The End of Evangelion
Alien
Predator
LoTR trilogy
The Ninth Configuration is a wonderful film which always puts me in a contemplative mood, and End of Evangelion (and the tv series) spoke to me more as a depressed uni student than any other piece of media ever has.
Where to get an industry insider's breakdown on the financing and and making of a film like 3000 years of longing?
It seemed really interesting for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual film. which was basically expensive travelogue gloss.
Any good film industry insider pod recs?
>>28656yts.mx has a little known feature that allows sorting by language and imdb rating ie it allows listing of every russian film by imdb rating, or release date, or genre. All other world cinema too. It's an affliction tbh because there is no excuse for watching capeshit when all that quality is so available and well seeded.
I did a search for lo fi sci fi on letterboxd. Some really quality Russian films from all eras. Just on a different level to something like the total waste of time that is Deus.
>>29121yifi has done so much for film preservation
i see so many movies that i wouldn't have found anywhere else if they weren't seeding it
like daltry calhoun
>>29182 The film is unoriginal trash that steals the premise of an existing Soviet film and inserts holly-wood bombastic decoration.
>>29187 >Orson Welles being intensely arrogant yet calling someone quiet and unassuming to be arrogant >muh ChaplinGuy really had a bug up his ass because people only remember him for Citizen Kane and transformers, apparently.
>>29193Don't think he gave too much of a shit about people 'remembering' him from transformers since it came out about a year after he died.
>>29193Orson Welles was openly arrogant, while Woody Allen hid it behind a timid, "self-deprecating" mask
BTW it comes from this
https://www.vulture.com/2013/06/orson-welles-lunch-with-henry-jaglom.html which is just excerpted from a book "My Lunches With Orson: Conversations Between Henry Jaglom and Orson Welles" by Peter Biskind
>>29193wait what , he was in transformers??!?
>>29200Do we have a pirated copyRIP Mr.Wells
>>29182Is it actually based or is it just Russian nationalist garbage like all WW2 movies made in Russia after 1991
>>29203After sitting through a lifetime of western imperialist garbage it's such a breath of fresh air to see the nationalist garbage put out by other countries.
Recent Chinese war movies have been just fucking top. Lots of themes of group co-operation with top, top technical kino.
Plenty of nationalist Russian war film post 91 is good too. You don't like hearing your stories from the opposite perspective anon?
Seperately, look at what the right are cutting into movie trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWXiku8xFnM OK normies, here's a list of goodies moovies i guess
>10/10
City of God, Hard Candy, Drive(haha yeah bro really funny drive reference), In Bruges, Akira, Badlands, Fallen Angels, Hellboy 1, Black Coal Thin Ice, The Terrorizers, Dead Mans' Letters, Pink Flamingos, Der Todesking, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Natural Born Killers
>7 and above
BATMAN(the one with that twink), Goodfellas, Godfather 1&2, Like Someone in Love, Tokyo Night Sky is Always the Densest Shade of Blue, Bladerunner 2049, Nice Guys, Road Games, Mondo Trasho, Miami Vice, Seven Psychopaths, Obi Oba End of Civilisation, Promising Young Woman, Scarface, Cecil B. Demented
>bad bad bad movies, don't watch. very bad. don't recommend.
Megan is Missing(holy hell this was scary as fuck), Headless(about a man who beheads women and fucks the skull), Movie 43(dont watch), Rubber(about a tire who kills ppl very weird movie), LA SLASHER!!!(this i actually liked to a degree. watch LA SLASHER.)
see ya normie fucks.
>>29244I'll take that as a yes and my interest is instantly gone
>>29244>Seperately, look at what the right are cutting into movie trailersI can't listen with sound. wtf is this?
>>29247don’t know if bait but this is absolute rube taste, starting with the numeric rating system
>>29292what do you believe is a good rating system, or is a rating system itself inflammatory to judge art?
i use a very simple metric, which is like or didn't like, also would rewatch is a metric
>>29354Something along the lines of
—Personally recommended
—Interesting at least
—Don't bother
You should just use your words to describe your appraisal of a movie, in the end
>>15959Someone theorized that he had an old mistress (that's also credited as a producer) that bankrolled the film
>>15959>>29381Reminder that Tommy Wiseau was born in the USSR
SOVIETCHADS KEEP DOMINATING EVERY MOVIE CATEGORY
BEST, WORST
TIL film festivals were literally created by fascists as a form of cultural control
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venice_Film_Festival#1930s>>29585it's so fucking over…
>>29647Can someone explain the logistics of how countries like India get outsourced for VFX work but their own movies don't have good cgi work?
Is it because they're occupied or is CGI in film like copyrighted, are there trade secrets?
>>29647Looks like Hindutva propaganda
I guess they don't have much standards
>>29649It's true it does but the funny thing is they're the ones seething about it lol
I don't know if they're marketting it to them or just doing a cool movie, but those twats have really eaten up all the cool hindu mythology
First hitler and now these shitheads, I fucking hate them so much
Religion is cool asf looking without rightoids
>>29353>But what about film? Movies are all in 24fps so does a higher refresh rate do anything?>I can't find anything online about this>24 SeptemberReally? There is currently hype going around about exactly this for Avatar 2 and the Avatar 1 rerelease that just hit theaters.
High Frame Rate has been tried with the Hobbit trilogy in order to make the 3D work better there. It was pretty hit and miss though, because they made the entire film trilogy 48 fps, and even the slower paced scenes felt like they were in fast forward. It was a new technique and very unfinished and on the whole it was distracting and the 3D was not great anyway. (Also the movies sucked.)
This idea originated with Avatar 1, which Cameron realized during production had some issues with the 3D during certain scenes with a lot of movement. The idea was passed around at the time to increase the frame rate to make the scenes easier to see (too few frames and too much movement led to blurring that looks extra bad in 3D). Cameron's approach however is to
selectively use higher frame rates only for certain sequences/shots where it would actually help, and to crank up or down between them. The Avatar sequels have footage that's designed for and rendered in a higher frame rate. They have previews of some of these scenes in theaters with the Avatar 1 re-release, and the Avatar 1 remaster also has some parts rendered in HFR. IDK how well it works though because the theater where I saw the re-release did not use a HFR projector (and did shamefully bad job on the audio and visuals in general).
Generally 24fps is seen as "real film" but that's really just tradition and what people are accustomed to. I don't think there's any scientific basis for 24fps looking better to the eye, but there's certainly monetary reasons for studios to prefer not to invest into higher frame rates since that means more data you have to store for each film. The usual criticism you see for HFR is "it looks like a soap opera" because traditionally those are shot with cameras that have higher frame rates. But it's really just an association people have. Nowadays there is probably more association with video games.
Just saw Top Gun: Maverick and goddamn if it isn't the stupidest Navy Airforce wank shit I've ever seen. Even the original Top Gun - a movie I utterly dislike and find boringly gay pseudo-macho shit isn't as much of a wank as this fake-ass movie is. The Mach 10 shit at the start just made me fucking laugh my ass off at the utterly fake retardation (at least the original used real planes and real capabilities) and then the entire scene of Maverick taking out Su-57s using only a cannon is actual retardation. I've seen B-movies from the early 2000s that do a better job of "American uberjet fighters beating the Eastern enemy" than this overpriced schlock. Truly an epitome of unironically engaging in the entire retarded "'Murica, Fuck yeah" idiocy that got made to mock the jingoism of the USA in the first place.
>>29684Actually I finally found a review of the film that isn't deepthroating the "cool fighter jet movie 2.0"
A 700 word succinct analysis that perfectly encapsulates the fascistic idiotic concepts of the film:
https://letterboxd.com/bretterbox/film/top-gun-maverick/ The military's response to the review essentially boils down to "it's just fiction maaaan, can't you just forget reality and politics? Movies are totally made in a vaccum!"
And nitpicking the error of the unnamed enemy country in the story not be Iran but instead a standin for either Russia, the DPRK or China… all of which makes the film fundementally WORSE because that means that a country fielding 5th generation fighters is also fielding SA-3s as their main air-defense (never mind that since they bothered to cruisemissile-strike an airbase, they should have just used HARMs to take out the SAMs and avoid the stupid canyon run entirely. Not to mention that they're fucking ATTACKING NUCLEAR COUNTRIES - literally provoking nuclear retaliation. And I'm not even going into the Russians constantly tracking ALL US carriers at all times and having comprehensive coastal defense as a direct asymmetrical response to carrier fleets. You'd think an area like a secret nuclear facility'd be a damn bit more defended. But I digress. The same response also takes a jab at MintPress for exposing the military propaganda reasons of the film by saying "Everybody already knows that" ignoring that
A) No, people genuinely do not know this
B) This contradicts the idea of "just take it in a vacuum man"
C) That this implies that people realize that the film is essentially war-mongering and are blood-thirsty enough to like that and that this is a good thing apparently…
This coming from the same faggots that cry and bitch about Russian and Chinese military power in parades.
https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2022/06/15/this-angry-critic-gave-top-gun-maverick-just-half-a-star/https://www.mintpressnews.com/top-gun-maverick-military-propaganda-official-documents/281077/To round off, I honestly enjoyed Jurassic World: Dominion more than this shit, at least that one is truly fictional and not military fapping and I could just enjoy the stupid fun and dinosaurs.
>>29687>>29684 The first movie is pretty shit too, especially the protagonist
https://archive.ph/By7Tm >>29805I saw afterwards that it was based partially on a book. I've never read anything by Stanislav Lem but it sounds like it'd be a fun read. might add it to my ever-growing stack of books.
I also just saw that he wrote the book that the movie Solaris is based on, so I'm more interested now.
>>29826Neil Breen is absolute kino, the greatest living auteur director
>>29685Yeah it's basically the metaverse but using drugs instead of VR.
>literally just film late 1920s Soviet Union
>critics of the next millennium call it one of the greatest films of all time
ugh, vat could have been
>>29924It's nice knowing that formalism was universally derided at one point, instead of being the norm
>>29941Amateurish directors? "We'll fix it in post" has become a meme in the industry. Dumbasses can't shoot right in the first place and think the digital artists can fix everything for them.
>>29942what is the mistake they're exactly doing
>>29947Shooting improperly and assuming that the post-artists can fix it with their computers. There's only so much you can do with crap footage. It's much easier to just shoot right in the first place with the right lights, than to assume that the post-artists can just use their magic to fix it.
>>29947the lighting in the bottom image is totally flat and they clearly tried to fix it in post by just adding a stupid filter over it. compare to the top image where the use of harsh lighting contrasts helps to create a visual language for the narrative of the film; Michael Myers is a psychotic weird stalker who seemingly can appear from anywhere and keep coming back, literally out of the darkness (classic symbolism for mysterious and evil things). the whole movie really is a great example of the use of lighting, especially the end sequence with all the different shots of the house with the shadows everywhere. it helps to create the atmosphere of what it feels like to be alone in a big empty house at night where every shadow feels like it could have something sinister lurking in it. another great example of that is House of the Devil.
compare that to the second image where there's essentially no visual language. it just looks flat with a piss filter added in post to try to mimic the appearance of having a style. I think they even tried to make Michael Myers' mask look "spookier" rather than using fillmmaking techniques to make him a scary character.
>>29935wat did u meen by this?
>>29949>the use of lighting, especially the end sequence with all the different shots of the house with the shadows everywherei didn't see any shadows but it was very spooky the just showed the house and neighborhood
they filmed that on the last day, and had money to clean some of the house, and had to film very carefully
so stupid how with better equipment they shoot worse nowadays
>>29685im a little mad at this because it takes the title from one Lem story and the topic/basic plot from two entirely different Lem stories
>>29955To paraphrase the Milwaukee hack frauds, computer graphics made stupid easy
>>29961Which other stories?
https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/do you agree with the idea that movies are sexless now?
>>30094Yeah, it fucking sucks
>>30094Very good article, with this interesting piece at the end.
>This cinematic trend reflects the culture around it. Even before the pandemic hit, Millennials and Zoomers were less sexually active than the generation before them. Maybe we’re too anxious about the Apocalypse; maybe we’re too broke to go out; maybe having to live with roommates or our parents makes it a little awkward to bring a partner home; maybe there are chemicals in the environment screwing up our hormones; maybe we don’t know how to navigate human sexuality outside of rape culture; maybe being raised on the message that our bodies are a nation-ending menace has dampened our enthusiasm for physical pleasure. >Eating disorders have steadily increased, though. We are still getting our bodies ready to fight The Enemy, and since we are at war with an abstract concept, the enemy is invisible and ethereal. To defeat it, our bodies must lose solidity as well. >>30134what does it mean and who is "The Enemy"
Scrolling the reviews of a movie on letterboxd is an oddyssey through the unimaginable possibilities of how inept and philistine the means and conclusion of a critique of a single work of art can be
There's not a single angle of how empty and vacuous of a statement you can make that's left unexplored
It's honestly kind of awe-inspiring how aggressively banal it is
>>30399you do realize your critique of them does sound as banal as their critique of movies?
letterboxd is just like twitter comedians most of the time, it's irritating, but? i sometimes find thoughtful stuff
>>30404>you do realize your critique of them does sound as banal as their critique of movies?Dogshit post
>>30407yeah that's what i was trying to say about your post
gonna be honest, i feel hdr media without hdr turned on look better
dunno if this is a problem with modern movies, but shit is so fucking dark
when i turn hdr off, i'm like wow, i can actually see the colours on this movie and everything feels alive, but not in annoying vibrant, high contrast way
>>30521ok nvm, i htink i fucked up my hdr, it looks like hdr when i turn it off
>>30522i resetting everything and hdr off still looks more better
wtf is going on
>>30523ok nvm me again, i was keeping the screen paused which was wrong way to check
Lol LMAO even:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalker_(1979_film)
>Several people involved in the film production, and possibly Tarkovsky himself, died from causes that some crew members attributed to the film's long shooting schedule in toxic locations. Sound designer Vladimir Sharun recalled:
> "We were shooting near Tallinn in the area around the small river Jägala with a half-functioning hydroelectric station. Up the river was a chemical plant and it poured out poisonous liquids downstream. There is even this shot in Stalker: snow falling in the summer and white foam floating down the river. In fact it was some horrible poison. Many women in our crew got allergic reactions on their faces. Tarkovsky died from cancer of the right bronchial tube. And Tolya Solonitsyn too. That it was all connected to the location shooting for Stalker became clear to me when Larisa Tarkovskaya died from the same illness in Paris."[18]Well at least they didn't go unpunished for wasting my time.
>>30634- Joan Root murdered for her activist work by people involved in poaching.
- James Miller, mudered by the IDF while filming in occupied Palestine.
- Christian Poveda, murdered by El Salvadorian gangs for his documentary on them
- Theo van Gogh, murdered by an islamist for a short on abuse against women in Islamic societies.
Watched Prey. Although it portrays the indigenous much more respectfully than usually, it's not high-brow or anything, it's still a Predator movie with throwbacks to the original movie.
>>30783that's fucked up, did all these deaths happen before the 2000s?
>>30634pier paolo got by the mob right? i forget what was the reason
https://youtu.be/NqxziDlZOIohow do they still make vietnam movies, is this also going to end with the "realization" in a milqetoast way that "war bad" and not "us imperialism is bad"
>>30903almost certainly. remember plenty of people who think 'we could have won if it werent for the democrats' are still alive
>>30935They don't think it's a real war crime because they consider the Vietnamese to be bug people.
>>30936that's fucked up, hopefully they'll die out soon
don't even understand how you grow racist against other people when the internet didn't exist
the government made them racist against Vietnamese
do you know more about the war? why and how, did south Vietnam, accidentally or intentionally bring the US into it
i don't know how biased the wikipedia is on this topic
>>30935Lots of people died very gruesomely and it was a very ideological war, which probably led to a need to make it not seem like a pointless waste of lives.
Watched "Nightmare Alley" earlier, been to work, going to watch it again now, it's that good.
There was a 1940s version of this film, based on the same book.
Basically, it's a neo—noir, but set in a carnival for the first part. Same sort of setting as Todd Browning's "Freaks".
The main character is basically a grifter, a con artist. There's a lot in the film about "reading" the "mark", picking up on clues about the victim of the con. And psychological tricks. If anyone remembers the ONA wampir threads from a few months back, it's the same sort of thing Anton Lavey was on about, how to trick and manipulate people , except he called it "lesser black magic."
Great film, has some strong characters, William Dafoe as the nasty boss of a gimp, there's a platinum blonde shrink, Ron Perlman as the circus boss.
Very dark and cynical, but cathartic at the end. Mark Kermode in a review said it was like a Greek tragedy.
>>30937The US didn't and doesn't like communism. They got involved in something that wasn't their business (putting it mildly).
Got any examples of films where it's describing a dystopia, and the director[etc.] knows it's a dystopia, and hopefully the viewer understands a dystopia, but it's never really made clear with blatant imagery. You know, the dark lighting or evil laughs. It seems nice and there's no point where SUDDENLY THE VEIL DROPS OH NO ITS ALL DARK AND SCARY REALITY NOW!
I'm used to Hollywood films where they often have to cater to the lowest common denominator and ensure that people who think the current world is not too bad couldn't possibly not realize this other word is badevil. Well, shit, even Fight Club and American Psycho get misinterpreted but you know what I mean.
>>30946 (me)
>watch Nightmare Alley on repeat >next day go to the burger van for breakfast >always thought the guy there looks like William Defoe, >with the same air of quiet menace >if anything the burger van guy looks has an air of greater menace>won't say which burger van it is >but it's one in London>and if you've ever been there you'll know immediately who I'm talking about>in my mind… >guy gives me a burger>says if you're looking for a job>it's only temporary, >and then but I won't spoil a great bit in the film if you haven't seen it
unironically why are scorceses 3 movies about gangsters always listed on "movies to watch before you die" lists?
am i thinking too superficially or is there something else about those movies that's so great? like the acting, or the way the camera is shot, or the writing?
jut watched lawrence of arabia
Just watched the Conformist, makes me want to get into Italian cinema
>>31033I wish Scorcese would branch out more often into other genres instead of making the same gangster movie again and again.
>>31033Godfather 1+2 and Goodfellas are pretty great movies. Look at all the memes Goodfellas produced.
I might've liked Godfather more but now I might appreciate Goodfellas more because he did a better job of portraying Mafia as the unhinged low lifes they are instead of god like masterminds living by "the code" or whatever.
>>31041>I wish Scorcese would branch out more often into other genres instead of making the same gangster movie again and again.He does. The Irishman was kind of pointless I'll agree, but not terrible.
Gangs of New York had enough other flavor with the time and setting to make it interesting. I liked The Departed pretty well too. I actually kind of liked it more than the original.
>>31033Scorsese is baby's first auteur. I agree that his stuff isn't really noteworthy, and honestly more schlock-y than it thinks it is.
>>31043I'm stupid he didn't do Godfather.
I really liked Casino too.
>>31044Also he essentially makes the same film over and over again: solitary male character is driven by ennui, meets other like-minded men, there's an orgy of machismo violence with a hard life lesson about not following in their footsteps at the end that pretty much everyone ignores in favour of everything before.
>>31049Every gangster movie ever. They're still pretty entertaining.
How many gangster flicks have Al Pacino and Deneiro done?
>>30954>>30946That is was alright. Nothing that special. Twist was cool but it didn't feel earned. Didn't feel they sold how he was brought THAT low.
>>31073boomer fantasy i guess, lot of them watching it
why is the movie psychotic btw?
>>31041i know he made one that doesn't sound like gangster flick, it's about some date a guy has in a diner
i guess he makes them because he's italian and has knowledge about that stuff
>>31043wait holy shit the departed is a remake? was it hong kong?
also yeah i've watched neither movies but i just now watched a trailer of the 50th anniversary of god father and goodfellas and the latter sounds much more of a good time
also that's good that he shows them as low lifes, that comes through the trailer
the maifa i hear liked godfather
>>31044who is your favourite auteur?
>>31049lol
>>31145> who is your favourite auteur?Polanski he makes everyone seethe
>>31146Drugging and raping children isn't cool anon.
>>31148dont care the apartment trilogy is the best series on the isolation of modern life.
>>31145i don’t have a favourite auteur
Does anyone know of a movie that deals with or evaluates the concept of ethics in general without focusing on a specific moral issue? Asking for a friend.
>>31232Do you know what a movie is? Hint: it’s not an essay
>>31237It's funny because I actually came up with my own movie writing theory which is more essay focused. I believe movies should be centered around the theme or the thesis. All the events of the movie are rather superfluous unless relating to the theme or the thesis of the movie. So it should be approached like a essay. Thesis, body, conclusion. I think most movies that fall flat, fall flat because you look back at them and realize there was no point. It was just a lot of random events strung together not cohering to a central point.
>>31238And I don't like the term "message" because it calls to mind movies explicitly laying out the thesis in expository kind of dialogue. Movies being show not tell, all the events of the movie should illustrate the thesis or theme of the movie so that the audience can pick it up without you writing the characters specifically telling the audience it.
>>31237It doesn't need to be a 90 minute diatribe simply a movie that could be interpreted as an evaluation of ethics. Btw I really am asking for a friend so direct all snark at him and not me.
do you think apocalypse now fucked up coppola? is that why godfather iii feels different in its production to the first 2 movies?
it's not the same lighting issue that plagues movies now
why do 70s movies and 90s movie look so different
>>31268Directors nowadays think it's "immersion" when you can't see shit in night scenes. Past directors focused more on visibility, just look at the first Terminator, the entire movie almost takes place and night and you can see everything crystal clear.
I think if you want to make a scene too dark as a stylistic device you need to explain why you want that specifically in that context, not just do it for the lolz.
Non-Western movies don't suffer from it as much (sometimes Japanese ones do) becasue the directors there are more old school.
>>31145Most actors in the old Roman movies like Laurence Olivier were great. I also like Gary Oldman but he is so wasted in all the shitty popculture flicks. Bruno Ganz was great. As for the female side, probably just from French one but I can't remember the name now.
I don't wanna sound racist but I don't know any Asian actor I like, the Kabuki theatre overplaying makes it hard for me to appreciate them.
I'm really excited that Goncharov is seeing a resurgence. There really isn't a better mafia movie, so seeing a whole new generation rediscover it and experience it for the first time is amazing.
>>31298I gotta admit, I thought it was overblown until I sat down to see it myself. Goncharov goncharowns.
>>31381I feel like I should be excused for not having seen an obscure 1974 scifi movie.
Just tried watching the first Avatar again since the new ones coming out and could only make it like 12 minutes. What a stupid fucking movie. Humans waste 6 years of their life traversing space for a lazily named rock and come up with the most convoluted bio-tech ever to square up to the 10ft tall locals? What the shit? They couldn't have just bio-engineered themselves or made exoskeletons. For that matter why even force in the plot point of Jake not having legs? His twin brother was still dead. What does him not having legs have to do with anything? I fucking hate graphics showcase movies. At least try to have a story if you wanna pass off lights and pretty colors as a movie.
>>29935>universally deridedLeftypol smoothbrains are such narrow minded NPCs they literally fit in with pre-boomer libs who were terrified by trains moving towards th screen. "These lights and shadows are mere trickery! The human eye hasn't evolved to see such quick edits! Harrumph! Harrumph!"
I like the movie overall but The Matrix kinda bums be out with the interrogation scene. The agents basically pull some magic shit, but at the same time are relatively impotent and incompetent before and afterwards. It takes some serious disbelief stretching to come back from that, like oh wow they control the system but can't tell Neo is hiding two metres away from them and chase people around on foot.
>>31501What do you mean?
They were trying to basically hack into Morpheus's brain. And yes they chase people on foot, but can also hijack people if they need. The agents are ultimately bound by the rules of the matrix, something which hackers aren't, meaning Neo etc. Only Neo is a good enough hacker to actually defy the rules of the Matrix though. Also agents don't control the system. They are sentient programs whose function is to control the matrix, like cops. If they stop doing their job effectively, they might get kicked out from the matrix. Or did you mean the Matrix 4?
>>31501What kind of magic shit they pull? All they do is being really powerful fighters with the same constraints that Neo, Morpheus, etc have. Agent Smith is a rouge element amongst them, which probably disrupts the entire operation. I'm not even a Matrix fan but what really ruined my immersion was when Neo suddenly has powers in the real world in the second movie, like why? It was never explained. Also when Trinity pulled some "the power of love" bullshit by the end of the first movie. The latter is such a cheap deus ex machina while still trying to hold onto the audiences emotions. Also ruined Interstellar for me which does the same shit.
>>31506I'm a hardcore fan of the matrix and I agree on both points.
>>29942"Day-for-night" filming. Basically the studio and the production firm place so much pressure on the crew that they have to film night scenes at day and have the post-production staff turn it into night, making it look like shit. You can almost always tell when a night scene was shot during the day.
What I am wondering is how older movies who did the same thing still manage to make it look better without even having computers lmao
>>31508>What I am wondering is how older movies who did the same thing still manage to make it look better without even having computers lmaoBecause nobody in the industry today gives a shit about making anything good, they just want to pick up a paycheck. Which is fair when empty suits are making all the 'creative' decisions.
>>31520god really is dead
>>29955limitations and boundries make art elevated
Just saw Avatar 2. I must applaud James Cameron for making the water Navi so hot.. They are thicker, curvier than the blue noodle people. You get couple clearly intentionally eroticized shots of water tribe chiefs nymphet daughter.
As for the movie itself, it was ok. I know the first one was about as clique as they come, but still had emotional weight behind it. This one not so much. There no longer is a singular main character, the screen time is spread too thin between all the members of Sully family and evil colonel. The environmental themes also took the back seat, humans are still destroying nature for profit, but the story is now driven by colonels desire to get revenge on Sully. And the ending action scene kept on dragging forever.
Also, I felt the movie was kind of hypocritical when it comes to its environmental themes, like the humans hunt alien whales to extract immortality serum from them, and its treated as a horrible thing, but you get numerous whimsical scenes of Navi killing animals.
>>31503>>31506Haha I mean the scene with Neo's mouth, right near the start. I suppose it can be rationalized because
he hasn't been removed from the farms yet, so they have physical access to his brain but eh, it feels like they're magicians but they have to resort to hand-to-hand combat.
>>31529The moral contention was that the humans would hunt the space whales for the immortality serum but waste the rest of the animal, much like the slaughter of the North American Buffalo where it was all for fur (and to break the lifestyle of the plains Indians).
> (I love them all but this one stands apart)
What's his best works? I watched Family Romance LLC and it was okay but I wouldn't call it timeless.
>>31558The difference being that both immortality serum and food serve the same purpose - keeping you alive.
>>31555Well it's a simulation. They should be able to do all kinds of stuff. However you are right in a sense that never use that shit for the rest of the trilogy and just use fists, which is a bit weird.
Thinking about it, I don't think The Matrix has aged well aesthetically. It's too 90s, with the leather coats and the sunglasses that look like the types bicyclists wear. Today you'd probably go for aviator shades and shorter coats.
>>31529>There no longer is a singular main character, the screen time is spread too thinCameron has some weird ideas about releasing movies simultaneously in theaters and on streaming services, but as two different versions with the streaming version being more like a series. He probably was already experimenting with structuring the movie along those lines. Heard several people compare Avatar 2 to a series in terms of how the scenes are broken up. That seems like a more interesting topic than the movie itself.
>>31558>>31591It should probably also be noted that if you have some immortality serum and you don't harvest it sustainably you will eventually run out and stop being immortal.
>>31555I think it's implied that the way they jack people into the matrix from outside works differently and the machines have less control over people. I mean you actually see a visual difference in the connections to the characters. They initially have plugs all over their body vs the single plug in their head they use later.
>>31723>Thinking about it, I don't think The Matrix has aged well aesthetically. It's too 90sIt was ridiculously 90s even in the 90s tbh. But that's kind of the point. IIRC it's Smith who says that the simulation intentionally chose a specific peak period, and that being the 90s is actually kind of prescient in retrospect.
>>31724>>31555Actually nvm it's not IMPLIED that the connection tot he matrix from outside works differently - they state it outright. Part of the threat of the agents is they can fully take over anybody who is still plugged in, but the rebels are immune after being disconnected. The mouth thing is just an extension of the control the agents have over people who are still plugged in.
>>31725When Agent Smith took over that dude's body how the fuck that does work? How can a software exist in a human brain? The first movie didn't have much logical errors but the other two are clusterfucks but Neo suddenly having powers in the real world really takes the cake
>>31726Nvm forgot the plug in the head. That could be a conduit for Smith
>>31726Neo having IRL powers makes no sense because he would need some kind of wifi, but Smith overriding somebody's mind isn't a stretch when the programs can basically do whatever they want to your brain.
>>31800I know Cameron is a madman, but this can't be real can it?
Bruce Willis, king of semi-forgettable Hollywood action flicks in the 80s and 90s, is dying of dementia
>>32505yippee kayee mister falcon
anybody got some recommendations for films in Spanish?
>>5046>a WW2 film series where every character speaks in their native language>they dub it overtragic
>>38758Azor stayed with me
>>38758I've got a bunch of recs.
Any genres in particular?
>>38779Not sure about genres really, I liked Canoa, Libertarias, Pan's Labyrinth, Devil's Backbone, Los Olvidados. So I guess give me a mix of overtly political and ones that are less so. If you know a really good comedy, throw that in too please.
>>38789Right on, I'll try to group them by country, I think.
I'll put the plot outlines from imdb too to give you an idea of each movie.
Spain (mostly thrillers/mysteries with a few horror movies at the end):
El reino
>A Spanish politician whose high-class lifestyle is based on nefarious and illegal business threatens to break his entire party after a newspaper exposes him to the public eye.As bestas
>An expatriate French couple operate an organic farm in the Spanish countryside but clash with villagers.Que dios nos perdone
>Inspectors Velarde and Alfaro must find what appears to be a serial killer. This hunt against the clock will make them realize something they'd never thought about: neither one of them is that different from the killer.La isla minima
>Two cops lost in the deep south of Spain. One serial killer to catch. A lot of secrets and lies to disclose.Tarde para la ira
>A hard-working single mother and wife of a getaway driver who is about to be released is approached by an unassuming and gentle man, completely unaware though of his inscrutable and utterly impelling motives.Celda 211
>The story of two men on different sides of a prison riot – the inmate leading the rebellion and the young guard trapped in the revolt, who poses as a prisoner in a desperate attempt to survive the ordeal.>Contratiempo>A successful entrepreneur accused of murder and a witness preparation expert have less than three hours to come up with an impregnable defense.Mientras duermes
>Cesar, a miserable man who works as an apartment concierge, takes a special interest in an attractive woman who lives there. He goes to great lengths to trouble her.El Orfanato
>A woman brings her family back to her childhood home, which used to be an orphanage for handicapped children. Before long, her son starts to communicate with an invisible new friend.Tesis
>While doing a thesis about violence, Ángela finds a snuff video where a girl is tortured until death. Soon she discovers that the girl was a former student in her faculty…Los cronocrímenes
>A man accidentally gets into a time machine and travels back in time nearly an hour. Finding himself will be the first of a series of disasters of unforeseeable consequences.Musarañas
>1950s Madrid: The agoraphobic Montse raised her now 18 y.o. kid sister. The upstairs neighbor falls down the stairs and breaks a leg. The crazy Montse takes him in.[REC]
>A television reporter and cameraman follow emergency workers into a dark apartment building and are quickly locked inside with something terrifying.I also highly recommend the series Antidisturbios.
>A fictionalised look into the human tragedy of riot police and police brutality in Spain.Mexico (some political satire and drama. Go for any of the first three, if you want a good comedy - although they are much more than that. Matando cabos is dumb fun, if you're in the mood for that):
El Infierno
>After being deported back to Mexico, a man has no choice but to join the vicious drug cartel that has corrupted his hometown in order to survive.La ley de Herodes
>A naive man appointed as an acting mayor of a small town turns into a corrupt politician capable of anything to stay in power.La dictadura perfecta
>After accepting a colossal bribe, a powerful TV conglomerate gins up fake news stories to enhance the image of a notoriously corrupt politician.Matando cabos
>A dark, offbeat comedy about a group of Mexico City teens embroiled in a kidnapping involving a retired wrestling legend and a parrot.Ya no estoy aquí
>In Monterrey, Mexico, a young street gang spends their days dancing to slowed-down cumbia and attending parties. After a mix-up with a local cartel, their leader is forced to migrate to the U.S. but quickly longs to return home.Roma
>A year in the life of a middle-class family's maid in Mexico City in the early 1970s.Vuelven
>A dark fairy tale about a gang of five children trying to survive the horrific violence of the cartels and the ghosts created every day by the drug war.Argentina (also mostly thrillers/dramas and a couple of horror flicks at the end. Relatos salvajes is a black comedy):
Relatos salvajes
>Six short stories that explore the extremities of human behavior involving people in distress.El secreto de sus ojos
>A retired legal counselor writes a novel hoping to find closure for one of his past unresolved homicide cases and for his unreciprocated love with his superior - both of which still haunt him decades later.El aura
>A deluded taxidermist plans the perfect crime.Nueve reinas
>Two con artists try to swindle a stamp collector by selling him a sheet of counterfeit rare stamps (the "nine queens").El clan
>The true story of the Puccio Clan, a family who kidnapped and killed people in the 80s.Aterrados
>When strange events occur in a neighborhood in Buenos Aires, a doctor specializing in the paranormal, her colleague, and an ex police officer decide to investigate further.Cuando acecha la maldad
>In a remote village, two brothers find a demon-infected man just about to "give birth" to evil itself. They decide to get rid of the body, only to end up unintentionally spreading chaos.Miscellaneous:
La llorona (Guatemala)
>An aging paranoid war criminal, protected by his faithful wife, faces death while being haunted by the ghosts of his past.La casa del fin de los tiempos (Venezuela)
>Dulce is a mother of two who experiences terrifying encounters with apparitions inside her old house, a place where a tragedy occurs. Thirty years later, an elderly Dulce returns home to decipher the mystery that has tormented her for so long.La casa lobo (Chile)
>Tells the story of Maria, a young woman who takes refuge in a house in southern Chile after escaping from a German colony.Crónicas (Ecuador)
>A suspense thriller about a reporter from Miami who travels to Ecuador in pursuit of a serial killer known as the "Monster of Babahoyo."Che: Part One
In 1956, Ernesto 'Che' Guevara and a band of Castro-led Cuban exiles mobilize an army to topple the regime of dictator Fulgencio Batista.
Che: Part Two
>In 1967, Ernesto 'Che' Guevara leads a small partisan army to fight an ill-fated revolutionary guerrilla war in Bolivia, South America.Feel free to ask if you want more specifics about any of the movies listed!
if Barbie came out in a different time it would probably be just a generally positively remarked upon movie we reference here and there like idk Mean Girls or something but because our culture increasingly demands Pop Art to be taken seriously its a culture war
>>29244How are those Russian "nationalist" movies more nationalist than say Band of Brothers, The Patriot, Saving Private Ryan, Fury, White House Down, etc. anyway? Especially the latter is full of nationalist motives that it borders on fascism. Saving Private Ryan at least gives the pretense of "war is bad" but in the end it's heavily tilted towards the Americans - five men taking out a tank squad, the sniper being a super soldier, etc. Same with the Vietnam War really, they are supposedly anti-war movies but the Vietnamese are portrayed as weak and helpless.
Also not all Russian films that receive money from the government are crazy nationalist - Sputnik for example was a movie that received money from the state movie fund and was just a good horror movie with no patriotic undertones.
The Soviet movie industry was also patriotic, there was Tarkovsky but they tolerated but they were at times suspicous of his work. And especially the Chinese and Russian war effort and blood toll in WWII are fucking buried in Hollywood with exceptions like Enemy at the Gates and The Last Emperor - well, that was made by an Italian communist. So China/Russia have every right to produce patriotic movies considering their cost was greater than that of the US. I have yet to see a Russian or Chinese movie that is openly chauvinist as well, especially when it comes to the portrayal of women.
>>39112Anyway, the Russian movie industry has taken a hit after the sanctions. They have problems contracting foreign actors, only freaks like Steven Seagal are willing to work with them. They don't have access to many Western shooting locations, let alone co-productions. They basically have to use Kaliningrad for that because it looks like Western Europe.
The Chinese industry is on the rise I imagine after it sucked for a long time. Wandering Earth and Three Body Problem catapulted them into relevancy even if redditors are still sceptical.
I had no idea how many good short films are on YouTube. Especially in the Sci-Fi and Horror genre. The actors are often surprisingly good, CGI has come a long way from being accessible for amateur filmmakers with low or no budget in decent quality, and the movies are often more intelligent that full length feature films. Sadly a lot of the short movies leave you wanting, because they don't have the budget to make it longer.
I used to make fun of movies of film students but now I'm more hesitant to do that. Also sadly you usually never hear from the actors and directors again, at least not in bigger productions. Do their scouts not seek out young talented movie makers and actors? They are missing out.
Anyway I'm continuing my marathon through Sci-Fi horror short films which is more satisfying than what came out recently in the mainstream.
>>39128sounds cool. any recs?
>>39128>Also sadly you usually never hear from the actors and directors again, at least not in bigger productions. Do their scouts not seek out young talented movie makers and actors? They are missing out. I can't remember what they are, but I know on Half in the Bag they've mentioned one or two directors of successful youtube productions getting big hollywood movies.
You can slurp down slop or you can make it mean something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_(1969_film)A masterpiece of political cinema.
Watching it, then listening to the two part Programmed to Chill podcast honestly elevates it into something even better. I like PTC a lot, but in this case the echoes of that movie and that time are literally ringing today. The level of detail that Jimmy FG goes into about the movie and *everything* surrounding and connected to it makes it even more powerful. The PTC episodes are patreon, gimme an anon filehost and I'll upload them for leftypol.
>>38758>>38791Just rewatched pic related
Absolute kino, lovely scenery and great soundtrack too.
I know i know, but after work i want the most brain damaging thing possible.
I'm watching Spiderman No Way Home. Tom Holland is not as hot as the previous movies, now he's ridiculously and unrealistically bulky.
The script is not particularly bad. The acting is good enough. In general, everything is good enough. The story though, is fucking retarded.
Really dropped the ball there. It's not even good for a "turn off your brain" movie, because the story is so fucking nonsensical that it makes me angry.
>>39457>>39458Ooh thought of another surrealist 70s dystopain Sci Fi for you: A Boy And His Dog
Now that one is really top notch. Fallout aped the shit out of that movie.
Lol apparently it's set le current year.
Tags: lolicon, body swap, cuckold, netorare, shotacon, bdsm, gangland, prostitution, anal, double penetration,
Is the new thing going to be Hollywood just making feature length live action hentai movies?generation,
What was the message of the movie? 7 year olds just want to be child prositutes?
I wonder if a reason Fight Club, as a film, is so notable is because it describes and demonstrates a fantasy, even if ultimately it is later critical of it. A large portion of the middle of the film is dedicated to glorifying the club as escapism from the boredom and disempowerment (characterised as femininity) of the alien urban capitalist society. This is not just a simple sex scene to spike adrenaline or watching some ripped jerkoff spray a machine gun, this puts you in the middle of a self-gratifying society. A social orgy of sorts, an exciting community that you are placed in the middle of. At least in mainstream film (and that's most of what I've seen), this is extremely rare.
It's very distinct from an action film, and in a very different way from how, say, Jarhead (and Full Metal Jacket) are in their similar personal stories. We don't glimpse into a hell, in this case we glimpse into a fantasy, in a very personal way through the close-ups and fourth-wall narration.
It reminds me of a video game with the immersive violent fantasy, maybe the closest film I know of to one. Would be interested to hear of any other film that manages to parallel this fantasy fulfillment.
>>40959You're talking about Poor Things, right? Shit reminds me of Balabanov's crap in the 90s. All of this directors films are samefaced art-house nonsense obsessed with sex.
Most of it is a vulgar mess. In theory the makings of the story has the potential to be good; a girl learning to be herself in spite of her Frankenstein-like nature. But Lanthimos had to make it 'extreme' for the sake of shock value, typical modern Hollywood. Like, her childishly enjoying breaking plates is good enough, we don't need her to visibly piss herself too. If she's stabbing at corpses because her father figure does autopsies and surgeries, that makes sense but there's so much that is contradictive narratively. The book it is based on is even more boring and only slightly less vulgar; a collection of hearsay and letters and the author's rambling political opinions collaged together.
>lolicon It's kinda worse actually, since it's like a reversal of the "adult in a child's body" that crap like the 1000 year old vampire loli trope is. The question of sexuality in such a situation is a concept that Star Trek explored far more maturely and without being tasteless. The director called criticism of this constant obsession with sexuality and ghoulish violence "prudish" but I disagree. There's many movies with sex or sexual scenes that have been accepted as such. Terminator comes to mind as being basically softcore porn, and nobody batted an eye - you came for an R-Rating you expect some adult stuff. But this film just had sex because the Lanthimos was a horny fuck with a penchant for the grotesque IMO, so everything about Bella's growth is forced through a purely sexual lens. There's plenty of grotesque films that can have sexuality in it and strange exploratory themes that aren't tasteless, there's a lot of Italian and French films like that, for example Jean-Pierre Jeunet made several such films in the 90s.
>What was the message of the movie? Supposedly an inspiring journey of a woman's liberation if they could explore themselves freely from the start or some shit like that. It's why every male character is twisted as fuck. The idea itself has merit, a naiive woman with the mind of a child growing up quickly (mentally) allows for interesting scenarios, but we don't really get them. The fact that the film glosses over the interaction with other women, (especially at the brothel) is demonstrative that Lanthimos is treating her like a plot-device for the film, not a character, the only woman that has any significance is the token lesbian. When people tried to discuss the messages and ideas his film might have he stated that he would prefer not to get into "an analytic conversation"
I disagree with a lot of feminist takes because usually they're just codswallop, but this film's story and direction is the encapsulation of "le Male Gaze". The original book, boring as it is, has a distinct contrast of how men viewed and talked about Bella and how she talked about herself and her experiences of being taken advantage of. The film loses this almost entirely and feels like a parody of the book, mostly because, unlike a book, we see everything from a third-person point of view, rather than a third-person limited or first person POV.
>>40960 >X (2022) The story for this was a stereotypical 1970s slasher movie crossed with a psycho-biddy story… most movies of that genre suck TBH, and only a few are well known and considered good, usually because they have unique aspects that broke the mold despite having the usual 'group of people killed off by psycho' narrative Friday the 13th for example.
The movie (X) got an entry on this fetish site for that scene, at least she has a nice ass.
https://archive.ph/iMuQv >>41446>The question of sexuality in such a situation is a concept that Star Trek explored far more maturely and without being tasteless. I miss /trek/.
>>41446Yes poor things.
>Most of it is a vulgar mess. In theory the makings of the story has the potential to be good; a girl learning to be herself in spite of her Frankenstein-like nature.I think the premise is fine if you don't take it to some degenerate sexual angle.
>It's kinda worse actually, since it's like a reversal of the "adult in a child's body" that crap like the 1000 year old vampire loli trope is. The question of sexuality in such a situation is a concept that Star Trek explored far more maturely and without being tasteless. Yes I know, but her brain is literally supposed to be that of ? year old or something, no clue how long after the operation the movie was supposed to start. I dunno I guess they just we're supposed to accept that her brain hyper develops because it's in an adult body.
>The director called criticism of this constant obsession with sexuality and ghoulish violence "prudish" but I disagree. There's many movies with sex or sexual scenes that have been accepted as such.You know it wasn't even the graphic sex scenes that really bothered me and I watched it with my parents too lol. I guess it was because every sex scenes was played for laughs it wasn't as awkward as usual in movies.
>The fact that the film glosses over the interaction with other women, (especially at the brothel) is demonstrative that Lanthimos is treating her like a plot-device for the film, not a character, the only woman that has any significance is the token lesbian.Her relationship with the mistress was weird as fuck. Seemed at first they were trying to imply like her naive feminism was going to make a difference at the brothel and then the mistress goes "hah black whore you aren't as popular you get punished for standing with her." Then Emma Stone gets an explanation of economic reality and basically told to STFU and service the johns and that seemed to be the final message on the sex stuff. Then they just sprinkle in some ridiculous scenes of her learning surgery and becoming socialist or whatever but nothing becomes of that.
The overall netorare plot was so weird. The whole thing sounds like something an incel would dream up but the director is turning it around and going, "yeah she wants to fuck hot assholes who want to pump and dump her instead of you while using you as a fall back after she got thousand cock stare from the sucking half the cocks in Paris, …. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING chinlet!"
>>41446>The story for this was a stereotypical 1970s slasher movie crossed with a psycho-biddy story… most movies of that genre suck TBH, and only a few are well known and considered good, usually because they have unique aspects that broke the mold despite having the usual 'group of people killed off by psycho' narrative Friday the 13th for example. Yeah I know. I've seen a lot of these despite not really being into them because my friend was obsessed with grindhouse cinema stuff. My favorite is still Behind The Mask because it so accurately broke down the slasher tropes. Lol always the virgin is that one female who is going to survive. Ortega isn't a virgin and also partakes in the sin but they still setup that dichotomy in the beginning between her and the rest of them, she's pure hearted. These movies are boring as fuck tho because nothing happens for most of the runtime. You just see a mediocre "young people hanging out" story with some murder shoved in at the end. I actually stopped watching in the middle because I was so bored. I only mentioned it because like I said their seems to be a cuckwave in media right now. Makes sense since it is in the zeitgeist, but I just don't really remember media embracing cuckoldry as a positive thing before and all of a sudden it's everywhere.
>>41451We have a star trek thread in the catalog and an older thread that reached bump limit in archive.
>t.OP of the first star trek thread here. >>41452>the premise is fine if you don't take it to some degenerate sexual angle. Basically my point, but without the sexual angle it's basically just Frankenstein's Monster but Rule 63'd
>The whole thing sounds like something an incel would dream up but the director is turning it around and going, "yeah she wants to fuck hot assholes who want to pump and dump her instead of you while using you as a fall back after she got thousand cock stare from the sucking half the cocks in Paris, …. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING chinlet!"Sounds accurate, the director's every film is obsessed with sex and the ideological overtones are all liberal in every film. The part with Bella 'learning socialism' amidst a brothel is like every other liberal writer and their succ-dem comprehension of leftism.
>>41453>I've seen a lot of these despite not really being into them because my friend was obsessed with grindhouse cinema stufI saw a lot as a teen because bootleg stuff was cheap in the early 2000s and it was just to have a fun time watching stuff we weren't supposed to.
>I only mentioned it because like I said their seems to be a cuckwave in media right now. Makes sense since it is in the zeitgeist, but I just don't really remember media embracing cuckoldry as a positive thing before and all of a sudden it's everywhere. It's the internet, NTR-shit and so on has made the fetish more available to find and sexual frustrations can sometimes leak into new fetishes like this. Considering how healthy relationships are becoming rarer (in the Western hemisphere at least) it's not surprising the increased cheating and cuckshit is prevalent - its a reflection of the material social environment.
>>41454>We have a star trek thread in the catalog and an older thread that reached bump limit in archive. Yeah, but it's not the same.
>>40959>What was the message of the movie?yorgos lanthimos likes wacky focal lengths and mentally stunted people having sex
>>41874Kind of makes me want to watch Gran Torino again.
>A million Days (2023)
If you like intelligent low budget sci fi like Primer, Coherence or Prospect you'll like this. I didn't look away from it for a second. If you miss a sentence of dialog you might lose the movie. Go into it cold. It's on the torrents. Maybe cinema isn't dead if you can make something that looks and grips like this on a micro budget.
>>41901It was only mildly amusing at best.
>>41901>You're abrahamic-pilled if you think vulgar sex-obsession is vulgarOkay schizo.
>>40959spoilers in picrel
arrest everyone involved in making this film
>>41904What's the problem, that sounds great, like a real wild ride
>>41903>vulgarity is badAristocrat detected
>>41942>Aristocrats and other bourgs are the ones that have historically indulged in vulgar behaviors Ok retard
>>41949You have an inhibition fetish. Boring, at lesat kink it up and keep it in your bedroom
>>41950 >a long set of schizo babbleYou're genuinely mentally ill. Touch grass. NTA BTW
>>41874Yeah, except some of the dialogue between Gibson and Vaughn (which btw is so stereotypical reactionary boomer talk, that I'm not even sure if it's meant to be a parody or something), I don't get why this gets mentioned as a right wing movie. It's not like these reactionary cops are portrayed sympathetically at all.
On the one hand I appreciate the Jurassic world movies committing to the bit and having dinosaurs said
spread over the Earth. On the other I find it hard to believe humans would let monsters like mosasaurs survive. Ranchers won't even tolerate wolves in their states. If some big artificial animal got loose and started interrupting capitalism they'd extinguish the fucking hell out of it.
>>43832I wish they were more interested in exploring a world where dinosaurs were running around. They seemingly have absolutely no interest in doing anything other than repeating the same plot line of “we created a new dinosaur and now it’s killing people!”, why not make a small setting horror movie about people in a farm or whatever trying to survive bunch of predatory dinos?
>>43837That would be pretty sick. You'd think with as popular as the dumb resident evil movies were they'd try the same thing with Dino Crisis. Zombie apocalypse but with dinosaurs. Why not?
I can already tell Megalopolis is good because I legimately cannot think of a single case of "huge personal avant-garde passion project from a late period auteur which is heavily controversial garnering both devotees and detractors" where the detractors were right.
>>43863Bought tickets to the first showing in my country, in two days. According to booking website over 80% of seats are empty.
Reporting back from Megalopolis screening. I heard that it disregards cinematografic conventions, but that still didnt prepare me for how baffling the movie was. I cant even call it good or bad, because on what dimensions should something like this be evaluated? Despite being purposefully extremely unsuble, I still dont understand what it was about, you could delete half the scenes from the movie at random and it would in no way affect its overal structure or story. There is a heavy political commentary, but I have no idea what is it commenting on or for exactly, the only thing about this movies politics that is clear is that Coppolla doesnt like nazis, because the main bad guy (an outstanding performance by Shia LaBepuf), and I originally continued this sentense explaining what I could understand about political messaging, but as I was writing the more I realized just how confusing it is, so I deleted it, yeah, no fucking idea. So my recommendation is, if you want to see a movie unlike any you saw before, check it out.
>>43879>and I originally continued this sentense explaining what I could understand about political messaginglol. Is that a ruler or something that he's holding? All the pics I've seen could be from one of those Ayn Rand movies.
>>43882I watched it pretty soon after it came out and loved it. The commandos busting in to Dana Dan by Bloodywood was the icing on the cake
>>43879>you could delete half the scenes from the movie at random and it would in no way affect its overal structure or storyspeedrunning the plot is not the only purpose movies have
>>1660>>Fellini: La Dolce Vita, AmarcordNot Nights Of Cabiria? You charlatan.
>>43887Now watch Hearts of Darkness
>>43892Don’t forget to play Spec Ops: The Line
>>43892I didn't realize they made a film of it.
>>43908Watched a play-through, in fact that's why I decided to watch the film in the first place comrade!
So Rings of Power was pretty good, I don't care what the a haters. Charlie Vickers killed it as Sauron, Celembrimbor was pretty as well. The Critical Drinker is a retard and probably hated it before was aired.
>>43915Not a film, but no, it was fucking garbage. One of the most poorly written and lazily produced things I've watched in a long time.
>>43917There's always people willing to defend the absolute worst corporate slop for some reason.
>>43915Is that your review of second season, or of first? Out of curiosity, whats the second season about? What is "Sauron" up to, does he get his spiky amor yet?
>>43923The second season is about the forging of the rings of dwarves and men, Sauron is now the lord of gifts (literally just in a wig) and tricks crumbydore into thinking he's a valar, even though Galadriel literally shows up first and tells him 'hey don't trust that guy he's Sauron'.
Then there's a load of pointless side plot shit, it's garbage basically
>>43917The TV is pretty much dead. I don't understand how it was poorly produced, it looked gorgeous. The writing was cringe at times, but it's fixable. The performances of Sauron and Celevrimgbie and partly Elrond were outstanding, Galadriel has some room improvement, but she was less of a girlboss and often just a bystander. The score was decent. It has had less goofy humour like the Peter Jackson movies, remember Orlando Bloom using an Uruk Hai shield as a surfboard and Aragon tossing Gimli into the pathway to a gate and they keep actually winning against multiple fully plated enemies? In general the orcs are much more scarier and better looking, they make up a bunch of decent fighters, in LotR they were basically meat shields with, even their most elite fighters were easily slain but every capable human, let alone elf. I never felt a sense of threat from orc hordes unless they used trolls. I also like Sauron to actually be a wizard in flesh and blood instead of a lidless eye which was pretty boring. They also use horses now instead of running during the fields to travel like in some video game. And come on, the writing is not that.
For the people complaining about the motivations of characters lacking, this is the same with the Jackson movies who have no development either.
They even included Tom Bimbadil which Jackson completely skipped. I don't really know what you expected from Rings of Power? Looks like your problem is more with Tolkien himself - by the way, the criticisms against RoP were pretty much the same fans levelled against the Peter Jackson movies back in the day.
>>43923Sauron was always shapeshifting, but the giant dark warrior with spiky armour you see in the movies was always more a Morgoth thing, not a a Sauron thing. Sauron appeared always in a fair form, as a wolf or as some kind of vampire type figure.
>>43923Second. I agree the first season was mostly bad.
Just saw Joker 2, the second of three movies I wanted to see this year. It was really good, I enjoyed it more than a second one, albeit the movie builds so much upon the first you cant really watch it standalone. Next to non-existent story, but rich thematically. Based on what I heard of discourse around the movie, I was expecting a subversive downer ending as a giant "fuck you" to the fans of the first one, but if anything, what it says is that you cant keep hiding from reality in fantasy, it denies viewer catharsis while samultaniously telling them the only way of achieving it is making your fantasy a reality. When the courtroom explosion happened I feared this is when they introduce real Joker, Dark Knight style, neuter this movie by draging it into comic book world, but no, the real Joker is just some cringy me tally ill kid with dedication. Arthur Fletcher was a man who wore a Joker costume, the movie ends with him being replaced by a guy who didnt just put on a makeup, but carved the smile into his flesh. I loved the ending, it had my eyes sparkling. Back in 2019 there was the whole hysteria about Joker triggering a beta uprising or whatever, but ironically its Joker 2 that has much higher chance of inspiring someone into commiting something criminally based.
>>43927I don't think the LOTR movies are the best thing ever, but they're CLEARLY much better than this absolute slop. Yes the show looked expensive but that's not the same as good, the amount of extras (or lack thereof) made it look comical especially in the Eregion scenes. It seemed like the director didn't want to bother with actually good crowd/city scenes like you see in GOT. GOT was way less expensive yet it's clear that the director/etc actually gave a shit at least in the first few seasons. King's Landing looked like a real lived in place whereas all the towns/cities in ROP are clearly just empty soundstages dressed up with CGI and like 20 extras even in scenes where lords are supposed to be addressing the entire city. Galadriel is bad as always, and Sauron and Curlybrindle are okay but Sauron's performance was incredibly on the nose and made CB look like an imbecile. Sauron was not a good liar or cunning at all yet CB constantly is fooled by the most basic shit. The only good bit of that was
Sauron putting him in the illusion because at least that would be convincing and demonstrated his power. But when it's just Sauron talking it's like a comedic over the top parody of an abusive gaslighting boyfriend. It's not exactly that characters are lacking motivation it's just that they're constantly holding the idiot ball due to them needing to do what the writers want them to do. It also feels like nobody and nothing is developed because there's like 6 different plots IN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLACES going on at once, which means not a single one of them is actually good.
Tom Bombadil being in it was just a slap in the face of the fans, since he's in the wrong place, and is not at all in character and is just doing generic Yoda shit. The Harfoot plotline in general is by FAR the worst one.
None of the problems with this show are Tolkien's fault, he wrote these events happening over thousands of years while the showrunners are too retarded to make that work as kind of an anthology show and instead just compressed everything into 6 months which completely breaks it.
I could go on and on about the problems with this absolute shit but basically it's clear that nobody on this project cared except maybe the CGI people/costume designers. The writers least of all, to the point it's hard to understand how a show this expensive could have come out this bad. I expect better writing from a Sifi show that cost like $1m in total.
Saw Parasite recently. It was a fun movie. Shame the hot sister died. Was hoping the rich family would get wiped out, but I suppose without the rich husband to provide for them they're doomed anyway.
>>43931> It was really goodThe critics and youtube reviewers really hate it for some reason.
>>43938nta but the fact that you refer to yourself in the third person ("the viewer") and like when a movie ruins your enjoyment makes you sound like a retarded pseud. it is like when people assume some food is healthy because it tastes bad and vice-versa
another stupid point is the motivation thing. you don't motivate anything by making people think, that's literally movie brain. you motivate with exaltation and simple, understandable messages. watch any propaganda movie from the time of the cultural revolution for easy examples. the only objective of artsy nonsense is to kill motivation and water down enthusiasm. I haven't seen neither the first nor the second joker movie btw
>>43946>nta but the fact that you refer to yourself in the third person ("the viewer")I dont refer to just myself, I know the movie bombed, but presumably more people than I saw it.
>and like when a movie ruins your enjoymentIt dint ruin my enjoyment, exact opposite, the fact they decided to do something interesting, rather then shit out some soulless sequel, greatly contributed to overall enjoyment of the experience.
> you don't motivate anything by making people thinkYeah, you do, if your cause isnt for retards.
>>43980It made the Trots at WSWS seethe and that's the only endorsement I'll ever need.
>>43982>look it up>it's realhttps://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/12/17/chan-d17.htmltruly the most pressing issue in socialist journalism circa 2021.
>>43986Wsws has always had an arts and culture review section
I love Rocky Horror Picture Show.
>>43982>buhh some magazine hating it is the only endorsement i needyou might as well be a marvel movie fan
>>43980>The Battle at Lake Changjin.It's a war movie with god tier production values. The non-western perspective alone is enough. All the recent Chinese war movies are great.
>>44158>god tier production valuesI mean… it is 60% cgi, and it isn't kino cgi like that russian movie from the same time "T-34" (2018). maybe it is just that I'm not used to the lighting and color palette they used. imo we have yet to see actual high-budget, high-quality chinese historic content
>nooooo you can't expose american crimes like the korean war, slop SLOP!!1nothing that transgresses the american order and narrative can be slop, specially not in the west. that's literally the point
>Alien Romulus: Child labor in space
The countercultural imagery, subtext and messaging in the final confrontation is wild. Pretty interesting that it's in an election year. Guess I'm a radfem-cel now.
I saw a long time ago what I think was a short film, there was an astronaut in a moon-like environment, he would take a pearl from a flower and shake it, apparently causing earthquakes back on planet earth. by the end the earthquakes are so strong he loses his connection to mission control
does anyone know the name?
>>44160>it is 60% cgi, and it isn't kino cgi like that Russian movie from the same time "T-34" (2018)Sure there's cgi but it's never seemed too much. The rejection of hero lone wolf bullshit and
emphasis on cooperative group behaviors maybe make me blind to it. I'm pretty china pilled now after a lifetime of western war slop.
>"T-34" (2018)Yeah, kino af. All the Russian WW2 stuf is kino to me, even the nationalist shit. Maybe it's a reaction to so much western nationalist shit.
>imo we have yet to see actual high-budget, high-quality chinese historic contentNone of these do it for you? My personal selection of the best China war slop from the last 20 years from yts torrents.
Shadow
2018
The Eight Hundred
2020
Snipers
2022
Home Coming
2022
Water Gate Bridge
2022
The Sacrifice
2020
The Battle at Lake Changjin
2021
Railway Heroes
2021
City of Life and Death
2009
Red Cliff II
2009
The Message
2009
Red Cliff
2008
Assembly
2007
The Taking of Tiger Mountain
2014
>>44178water gate bridge was good
now post dynasty slop, I need that shit
>>44409If you like it try Paths of Glory next
>>44421well that was depressing and artfull. Very Werner Herzog
>>44477It's great, just watched it again recently with my girlfriend who saw it for the first time. Lotsa fun.
>>44477one of my favorite films.
>>44563 (me)
Also, Chinese Mulan movie best Mulan movie.
>>43880>lol. Is that a ruler or something that he's holding? All the pics I've seen could be from one of those Ayn Rand movies.Yes very Atlas Shruggedlike.
>>44178Red Cliff 1 & 2 are amazing. crazy to me theyre not more popular
Finally saw the Barbie movie, and, while the production quality was poor for the 145 million budget, and it was a bit short, it was surprisingly genuinely radical and Feminist to the point I'm shocked Mattel signed off on it. Bold decision to make the film about Karen Carpente, loved the film's subversive use of conservative 50s iconography (barbie dolls, the "scare film", etc) to tell the story of karen carpenter and her struggles with anorexia and addiction, as well as 50s american culture more broadly.
Not sure how it made so much money though. if anything I'd've thought mattel would lose money because the unlicensed music would cost them a lot in court and the strong sex scenes, language, and drug use would mean that it won't be able to target the expected family demographic.
https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-49/essays/casual-viewing/
>Netflix execs tell screenwriters to have characters “announce what they’re doing so that viewers who have a program on in the background can follow along”
>They also have thousands of micro-genres including “casual viewing” which is used for movies/TV that go down best when you’re not paying attention.movies funded by streaming services are designed to be watched with a phone LOL
>>44860I can see them making these new casual viewing shows are going to be using ai even more
>>44860>which is used for movies/TV that go down best when you’re not paying attention.Why not just listen to music or a podcast at this point?
Least favorite out of the three. It felt like I was watching Rise of Skywalker for the first time. The film quickly goes from 0-100 and it stays at 100 for the rest of the time. It doesn't give me enough breathing room to take in everything that is happening or for me to care about the characters. For example, I wish they slowed things down for the conversation Sonic and Shadow had on the moon right after they stopped fighting, it would have added a lot more weight to what they were saying and not feel so terribly rushed. Anyhow, this non-stop fast-pace left me to keep think "huh" whenever something happens. Jim Carrey was really fun to watch, as usual, and was easily the best part of the movie.
The people that keep on hyping this movie up only talk about the references. I don't watch stuff for references, I watch for a good story, or at least one with a good amount of soul. Yes, I know this was targeted towards kids. But if 20+ year old references that are going to fall flat for little kids, are going to be what is carrying this movie, then it's not a great movie. 5/10 at best. I know that even kid me would have been confused watching this. Kids deserve better.
Post credit scene with the army of Metal Sonic immediately jobbing to Amy was another highlight, funniest shit. Dude can't get a break no matter the continuity.
>>44880Coincidentally I just saw the Northman that he directed. Really love the way he presented the way a norseman might have interacted with his belief system.
>>44940I just watched with some friends. We laughed a lot. Although it had its moments of very good suspence. William Dafoe was amazing. Recomended, I will saw the other versions too.
How much has the medium changed in a century right?
can't find a torrent for nosferatu smh
I fully believe that superhero movie fatigue would lessen if the movies and TV shows would embrace more of the comics' crazier aspects. "Comics are weird" should not be a caveat, it should be a selling point for comics.
Watched Nosferatu friday, pretty good but the jumpscares were a little annoying, aside from the one where Ellen casually walks up behind Anna
>>43863First time for everything
>>44971I don't like horror, can I get anything out of this movie?
The original Cape Fear is one of the best movies with some of the most repugnantly reactionary politics.
>>45313What's the deal? I only know the Simpsons episode.
Watched The Gorge. Very stupid movie. I enjoyed the opening act, even though it's very cliche. I like the aesthetic I guess. It felt like an MGS5 cutscene kinda. Once Miles Teller and Anya Taylor Joy meet, they engage in some very embarassing cross gorge interactions. Then the movie just devolves into pure actio slop which is OK enough. The movie is too long though. 5/10
What's up with Mlies Teller. I feel like after Whiplash he was set up to be a serious artsy fartsy dramatic actor but lately he just stars in slop.
I watched Kiyoshi Kurosawa's new movie: Cloud. It's about an unscrupulous online reseller. It was alright. Has some creepy moments and a surreal air which is a trademark of this director's films. Watching some analysis of it on youtube I had to roll my eyes at people saying that the movie is about capitalism, which I guess it sort of is, but nonetheless it came off as blunt and graceless to just say it like that.
Anyway, spoiler warning. Yoshii, the main character, makes a living buying cheap shit by bulk online and then reselling that shit at a markup. He doesn't care if what he's reselling is medical equipment that people need or counterfeit goods. As a consequence of his obsession (similar to that of a gambling addict) with his "job" he alienates and/or antagonizes many people. As his business grows he moves out of his tiny apartment into a bigger house out in the country with his girlfriend, Akiko. He also hires an assistant named Sano. A local early 20s kid who failed to make it in Tokyo and had return to his home town.
The assistant is the weirdest most surreal character in the movie. He instantly becomes very interested in Yoshii's job and wants to learn all about it. He also pledges a very strange but sincere loyalty to Yoshii, claiming that he's very grateful to him for giving him a job. When Yoshii's new house gets vandalized and the police seem unwilling to help, Sano takes it upon himself to investigate who did it and catch them, which he does. Seemingly beating the delinquent up and instilling a deep fear in him.
Eventually several people whom Yoshii has wronged team up to get revenge on him. They kidnap him and plan to livestream his torture and eventual death. Sano sets out to rescue Yoshii and goes about it ruthelessly. Coldly killing several of the kidnappers until he reaches Yoshii. Onces he frees Yoshii he hands him a gun and they set out to escape from the rest of the kidnappers. Along the way Yoshii himself kills several people. At first hesitantly but with increasing ease. In the end Akiko betrays him threatening him with a gun to give her all his money. In the scuffle Sano murders Akiko and Yoshii is heartbroke about it. Yoshii and Sano escape the scene. While driving away, in the most surreal scene of the movie, Sano tells Yoshii to only focus on making money and that he'll handle the rest. Yoshii asks "Where'll that get me?", Sano responds "It'll get you anything you want. Even things that can end the world", Yoshii says "I'm doomed" as they drive on the only indication of their movement is the moving sunset sky outside the car windows.
Oh god I typed all that shit just to say, I think Sano, who comes out of nowhere and is very unsettling in his willingness to do fucked up shit for Yoshii, represents an aspect of Yoshii's personality that gradually comes out as he slowly loses his morality. In the end he is completely morally bankrupt and ruined. So I guess the film is about how singleminded relentless proit seeking can drive one to moral ruin. But I don't think the film makes a strong overt condemnation of capitalism as a system. It doesn't show Yoshii being driven to unscrupulousness due to a desperate situation of destitution or even being driven to it by internalizing the constantly telegraphed values of our modern hyper capitalist society.
Check out Cloud. It's alright.
I watched that new netflix series Adolescence. It's pretty good. Do teenagers nowadays really have a secret emoji code? That felt kinda corny but I could just be out of touch.
Is The Handmaid's Tale just The Turner Diaries for liberals?
>>45541The discourse on letterdbox about warfare is so fucking funny.
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>>45541>>45541What the fuck is Alex Garland doing making a movie like that in 20 fucking 25? There's enough glazing and venerating of operators that it can and will be easily taken as a positive portrayal of the military by those that want that. Nobody MAGA or military will see anything negative in it. Iraqi characters corpses or ciphers. I can hear the carefully rehearsed justifications Garland will be giving in interviews already, for the 10% of the audience that care.
>20+ years>1,000,000 dead>country full of depleted uranium dust and tumors>even vance now criticizing the euros for encouraging and participating in the war!!! >alex fucking garland is making movies about how war iz hell for brave injured operators who were caught on film and in photos slaughtering civilians>>45551Garland is a unsubstantial retard. The embodiment of an identity and personality molded by HR. Mendoza, on the other hand, hates Iraqis and loved his time as a Seal slaughtering people defending their homeland
https://x.com/mirr0rball89/status/1911921315000590824 >>1660>Herzog: AguirreFitzcoraldo is better imo but still peak
is After Hours by Scorsese worth a watch?
>>45567Yes. It’s really fun. Guy tries to get laid and his night just keeps getting progressively worse due to his own bad decision making. It constantly escalates and the whole thematic direction is solid.
One of my biggest grips with amateur film critique is that I wish people could praise female characters without acting like there has never been a good female character before.
>>45551I hate Garland and I hated Civil War. I want him to stop making movies forever.
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I watched it and fucking loved it.
Do you like a filmmaker called Jan Svankmajer? I LOVE this movie called "Conspirators of pleasure" I tell nearly everyone I meet to watch it even though it makes me look like a complete weirdo. But it's just too good.
>>45765svankmajer's "little otik" is a masterpiece to me
>>45767Scifi is always a gamble due to high budgets for CGI and they don't want to gamble on a non franchise
Sinners is much more about Delta blues than it is about vampires, still better than either Black Panther movie
>>45771I was watching that in theaters yesterday and walked out - it was pretty boring to me. So do the vampires win or what
>>45793Kind of, they fast forward to 1992 and (vampire) Michael B Jordan and Hailee Steinfeld are revealed to have survived the whole jukebox massacre and lived in the shadows through the decades to confront the old version of the main character (played by Buddy Guy) and they share memories of before the night.
they're making a live action version of how to train your dragon
> The live-action ‘LILO & STITCH’ remake has already earned more than the animated movie.
> The film opened to $341.7M globally.
Honestly climate change destroying human civilisation might be a good thing at this point.
>>46090>complaining about endless remakes makes you some American memewordK.
>>46089This, unlimited climate revolution against the civiliSSed world
>>46089The real question is why don't they just do theatrical re-releases every 20 years like lucas did with star wars? It's free unlike filming a whole ass remake and animated movies don't really age that much.
>>46097This makes more money and Disney has done many rereleases.
>>46098Is there some breakdown of audience demographics? Because, who watches this crap? How does it keep making money? Now obvious answer is children, but wouldnt children prefer animated version?
>>46099>>46099Well disney doesnt do 2d anymore. This is basically an animation considering one of the titular characters is full cgi. I don't know that kids really even prefer animation tho. I watched a lot of acted kids movies and even mixed live action and animation kids movies growing up, I think a lot of the acted ones did well, it is just the cartoons are more critically acclaimed.
I watched Sinners. The scene where they're playing music and all the ghosts of past and future black and Chinese musicians appear was kinda cringe. I understand what they were going for with it, all the best and most iconic music and culture of the USA was made by black USAnians but the juxtaposition of a modern DJ and rappers and rock stars with the old timey blues came off as silly.
Any good films yet this year? Everytime I look at new releases its celebrity documentaries, war propaganda, and cop propaganda.
I watched the movie Marshmallow. Or rather I tried to watch it. I'm embarrassed to say but I couldn't sit through the slow burn build up to the big reveal. I started skipping through it. Might be my fucked up brain. Might be that the movie just isn't that good. That's all I have to say about. Don't really know if I recommend it.
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