Alright filmfags, show me what you've got.
<S Tier - Timeless
>Tarkovsky: Stalker, Andrei Rublev, Solaris
>Klimov: Come and See
>Bela Tarr: Turin Horse, Werckmeister Harmonies, Satantango (all very demanding)
>Bergman: Persona, Seventh Seal
>Herzog: Aguirre (I love them all but this one stands apart)
>Kubrick: 2001
<A Tier - Food for the soul
>Visconti: The Leopard, Rocco and his Brothers
>Fellini: La Dolce Vita, Amarcord
>De Sica: Bicycle Thieves, Umberto D.
>Pontecorvo: Battle of Algiers
>Cocteau: Orpheus, Blood of a Poet
>Godard: Breathless, Band of Outsiders, The Little Soldier
>Kurosawa: Yojimbo, Throne of Blood, Ran
>Mizoguchi: Sansho, Ugetsu
>Kobayashi: Seppuku, Human Condition
>Fritz Lang: Dr. Mabuse, Metropolis, M
>Bunuel: Discreet Charm, Simon of the Desert, The Exterminating Angel
>Kieslowski: Dekalog
>David Lynch: Anything, including Twin Peaks old and new.
>Ki-duk Kim: Spring, Summer…
>Gilliam: Brazil
>Kubrick (pt. 2): The Shining, Clockwork Orange, Dr. Strangelove, FMJ
<A- Tier - Entertainment
>Cronenberg: Naked Lunch, Dead Ringers
>Billy Wilder: One, Two, Three, Sunset Blvd, Witness for the Prosecution
>Becker: Le Trou, Touchez pas au Grisbi
>Melville: Army of Shadows, Le Cercle Rouge, Bob le Flambeur
>Clouzot: Diabolique, Wages of Fear (the ultimate languagefag film)
>Bresson: A Man Escaped, Pickpocket
>Renoir: The Grand Illusion, Rules of the Game
>Ferrara: Bad Lieutenant, King of NY
>Jodorowsky: The Holy Mountain, Santa Sangre
>Peckinpah: Straw Dogs, Alfredo Garcia
>Woody Allen: Annie Hall. All the other old-and-good ones too.
>Carpenter: The Thing, They Live
>Tarantino: Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs
>Scorsese: Kind of Comedy, Taxi Driver. The rest can kinda fuck off.
>Hitchcock: Pretty much all of them.
Let's talk about movies, then. Don't have to be lefty films but obviously recommendations on that front are also welcome.
>>1661Bit harsh maybe. He made some other good ones but those two are apart imo.
>>1663Wait, wouldn't that actually make it fruitful tho?
>>1663Post it
What did you lads think about the Irishman? Gonna watch it today.
>>1664>>1665Ok well alright. I'll just post my IMDB ratings
10 rated:
Network (1976)
Children of Men (2006)
Canadian Bacon (1995)
American Beauty (1999)
The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
Battlestar Galactica (2003)
Untouchable (2011)
Actually never mind, I just realised there's a share list feature, you can press 'sort by: top rated' to see the top stuff.
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur46013471/ratings >>1667Network is mega-based. I actually can't believe I forgot Sydney Lumet on my list got dam.
>Sydney Lumet: Network, Death Trap, Dog Day Afternoon.I still haven't seen Children of Men yet but people seem to like it. Will check it soon.
>>1676>Paths of GloryLove that one, would be my favorite of Kubrick if it wasn't for Dr Strangelove. The ending of Paths of Glory always strikes an emotional chord inside me, just like It's a wonderful life.
>Network (1976)Mega based.
>I love 12 Angry Men, tho it is sort of peak liberalismYeah, but the film still expresses the best that liberalism gave us. It's really emotive and strong.
>>1693Tarkovsky GANG
Do yourself a favor and check it out. It's not for everyone and you might not like it, but you have to try.
Всем Русско-говоряшим смотреть!
[BadComedian] - На Париж (#СпасибоДедуЗаШалаву)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OmC1HcTGBc>>4633I enjoyed the Decameron. I consider Salo a failed film, and not because of the shock factor. Been a while since I've seen it though.
Which one is your favorite?
>>1678Perhaps it was Sicko (2007) by Michael Moore?
>A documentary comparing the highly profitable American health care industry to other nations, and HMO horror stories including shotgun deaths.
>Writer/producer Michael Moore interviews Americans who have been denied treatment by our health care insurance companies – companies who sacrifice essential health services in order to maximize profits. The consequences for the individual subscribers range from bankruptcy to the unnecessary deaths of loved ones.
>Moore then looks at universal free health care systems in Canada, France, Britain, and Cuba, debunking all the fears (lower quality of care, poorer compensation for doctors, big-government bureaucracy) that have been used to dissuade Americans from establishing such a system here. The roots of those health care systems are explored, and our failure to establish free health here care is traced to a) President Richard Nixon's deceptive support of the then-emerging HMOs pursuing huge profits and b) subsequent pressures for Congress to sacrifice sound health care in favor of corporate profit.
>A group of Americans who became ill from volunteering at 911 Ground Zero, but were refused health coverage for their illnesses, are ferried by Moore to Cuba, where they receive the top-rate, free care one would hope they'd get here at home.
>In his interviews, historical reportage, and typical sarcastic wit, Moore soundly condemns American health insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies, as well as the politicians who have been paid millions to do their bidding. He makes the case that there is something wrong with Americans that we cannot learn from the successes of other countries in providing better quality-of-health than we enjoy in the USA. >>1678>>5073Oh, yeah, I think it definitely is! Here's the scene:
https://youtu.be/j7cME3lCdwE?t=854(that's 14:14 in the video)
I hope you're still around, anon
>how do you even measure the intellectual level of movies or do you just 'feel' like they are?You measure by how they treat the viewer. As an example, in Captain Marvel there is a scene where she's breaking out of her chains. If the writer thinks the viewer is a retard, they'll add a shot of a side character going "She's breaking out!", which is exactly what they did. For a movie that expects its viewer to be moderately intelligent they'll assume the viewer can pick up on visual clues, like in Alita: Battle Angel (which doesn't require you to be a genius but you'll miss some stuff if you're not paying attention).
This has to do with the changing nature of the film business because of competition from streaming. The number of films released by major studios is down, as are the prospects of mid-budget films
https://www.the-numbers.com/market/ https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/05/is-the-mid-budget-movie-an-endangered-species The studios are competing by betting on epic big budget films, much as they did in the sixties in their first battle with television. They also have the advantage of playing about as well everywhere in the world.
So, when you're spending 200 million on a single film, your focus is going to be on making sure the investment pays off, not innovation or art. That's why nearly all big movies are adaptations, reboots or sequels and why they're all so samey. The Marvel films in particular have hit upon a very efficient formula. Modern information technology has allowed media companies to narrow down the most safe and profitable content in media produced today.
They almost always have generic plots. And the epic ending is usually either battling thousands of faceless drones or fighting a villain who monologues every time the fight is about to transition, the serious hero says something serious, the jokey hero says a quip, then they generically fight some more, then something something sky beam does shit, the villain gets arrogant because the plan is working, then the hero says the final quip and the villain makes an “oh shit” face then dies.
Avengers, Age of Ultron, Infinity War, Thor Ragnarok, both Guardian of the Galaxy movies, Endgame and Black Panther to name just a few marvel movies all do this.
The reason this slides and is liked is because they don't know nor understand alternatives of the past or future. People have no hope so they look up to mythological tales set in modern era and the destruction takes place which one might enjoy in a nihilistic way. It very much reflects many more simple hero-stories of Greek Mythology, however lacking the counterbalances in the form of tales of Oedipus, Orpheus and Phersephone, the Illiad and Hercules' labours. These criticized many aspects of over-powered Greek heroes like Theseus, who just win at everything and are smarter and stronger than anyone they meet.
This reflects Adorno's laments on cultural decay and machinization, in his theory of social spectacle and the resulting industry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-m_7G31yh4 I wonder from time to time if Adorno and the other Frankfurts were purposefully targeted as conspirators specifically because cultural degradation has always been a reactionary racket, and the right didn't want competition from the left in the marketplace. After all, the CIA has literally admitted to helping this along, with people like Gloria Steinhem being their direct assets as well as Ghettofication and subsequent thug subculture after revolutionary leaders were removed and replaced by angry liberals.
>https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/how-the-cia-created-gangsta-rap.701728/ >https://newspunch.com/cia-hip-hop/ >https://daily.jstor.org/was-modern-art-really-a-cia-psy-op/ A lot of old stuff here, I will try to give a list of recent directors (alongside two films) and draw a hardline at the millenium (though most are within the decade).
Flannel blanket with hot cocoa tier:
> Jim Cummings: Thunder Road, The Wolf Of Snow Hollow
> Kantamir Balagov: Beanpole, Closeness
> Jonathon Glaser: Under The Skin, Birth, Sexy Beast
> Nuri Bilge Ceylan: Winter's Sleep, Once Upon A Time In Anatolia
> Thomas Clay: Fanny Lye Deliver'd, The Great Ecstasy Of Robert Carmichael
Fluffy quilt tier:
> Peter Strickland: In Fabric, the Duke Of Burgundy
> Richard Ayoade: Submarine, The Double
> Park Chan Wook: I'm A Cyborg And That's Ok, The Handmaiden
> Yorgos Lanthimos: Dogtooth, The Lobster
> Quentin Dupieux: Wrong, Rubber
Decent Blanket Tier:
> Jeff Nichols: Take Shelter, Midnight Special
> John Cameron Mitchell: Hedwig and the Angry Inch, How To Talk To Girls At Parties
> Darren Aronofsky: Black Swan, The Fountain
> Ben Wheatley: A Field In England, Kill List
> Panos Cosmatos: Mandy, Beyond The Black Rainbow
> Daniel Scheinert: The Death Of Dick Long, Swiss Army Man
Honourable mentions to some filmmakers still at it but also span back a while so I didn't include above:
Peter Greenaway: Eisenstein In Guanajuato, Drowning By Numbers
Mike Leigh: Peterloo, Naked
>>13819Please, kinophile anons, could you tell me what's so great about the film Rubber?
I got curious about it ike 5 years ago, but never to to actually watching it
Has anyone watched the movie King Charles III?
What did you make of it?
Here it is for those who are interested:
https://vimeo.com/445148461>>1660The first film I'll contribute is Stanley Kubrick's Barry Lyndon, here's a video showcasing some of its best shots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcLZU3_XNMo. It's not just visually beautiful, it's a great drama, every scene is captivating and the protagonist Redmond Barry (later, Barry Lyndon) is relatable and multi-dimensional. The acting is great, the cinematography is amazing. It's a little bit long at over 3 hours, but you don't ever feel like Kubrick wasted time or included filler. Silent moments are full of meaning, which is communicated by the environment or by the actions of the characters of the scene. Go watch it, it's great.
>>1660>>14678Elia Kazan's A Face in the Crowd is an engaging drama that explores the cost of fame, and at the same time criticizes the media industry for it. Andy Griffith's performance is legendary and elevates the film into a must-watch. It isn't beautiful like Barry Lyndon, but it has good cinematography, dramatic scenes make good use of shadows and camera motion. The actors, especially Andy Griffith, express an impressive amount of emotion through facial expressions alone. Must-watch if you enjoy dramas.
BTW I know that the director Elia Kazan is kind of anathema to leftists b/c of his testimony to HUAC but at the same time this movie has a redeeming theme in its criticism of the culture industry. One of my favorite films ever.
>>14235Agree tbh. A bout de souffle is the beginning, and imo the evolution of Godard during the new wave period is what made him compelling as a director moreso than any particular film. Have you seen Le Mépris (1963) or Pierrot le fou (1965)? You can feel the evolution in motion very keenly in both of those and it's very engaging.
If you liked La Chinoise I'd recommend Tout va bien (1972). It has a coherent narrative structure and a far less cynical dialogue/consideration of the left while remaining unabashedly experimental. If I do have a favorite movie of his, it's probably this one.
>>15483Чапаев, Великий Гражданин, Доживем до понедельника, Премия, Кин-дза-дза.
If we also add TV series then Вечный зов and Тени исчезают в полдень.
Plenty of ther ones.
>>1660Trying to figure out how you managed to not include the Coen borthers.
Also Hitchcock has plenty of excellent films, but when you make over 50 films some of them are duds. Saboteur (1942) is the big one for me
>>15697Naked by Mike Leigh
It's depressing because it never stop being grimier, and it became soul-crushing to me when
I realized the main character was just a psychopathic pseud, there was nothing profound in all his ramblings, his nihilistic posture is his own way to bully the people around him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g78ELzCaOfAI liked the trailer of this move recently
It reminded me of previews while being in theater during intermissions
>>15697Testament of 1983, without a doubt. It's the story about how a family in a Norman Rockwell style close-knit rural town tries to survive the aftermath of an all-out nuclear war. There is no bombing scene, no mushroom cloud, no political context - just a series of bright flashes, the power goes out, never comes back on, and everyone is left to die of starvation and radiation sickness.
Threads is shocking, but
Testament is slow, hopeless despair.
>>16367what's a woo woo
>https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=44066510install qbittorrent if you already don't have
it has a search engine built in
>>16425Woos Woos is WSWS/World Socialist Web Site
>it has a search engine built inNot that anon but I installed it yesterday and you need to install search engines for each torrent site. Any recommendations and where can I get them?
>>16367>>16425I just watched
Miss Marx, thanks for the torrent link. Here's my review:
Well, WoosWoos wasn't wrong. Eleanor Marx's political life is almost entirely kept out of view in favor of her personal relationships with her family and Edward Aveling. After bizarre title credits mutilated in After Effects and set to punk rock, the film begins with a (fictional) eulogy by Eleanor at Karl Marx's funeral, which sets the tone for the rest of the drama: "[Karl and Jenny] never doubted, they never faltered, and they were faithful until death". Immediately after the funeral Eleanor is hit up by Edward Aveling (not present historically), which kicks off a relationship much rockier than the one she just described. What follows is a plodding romantic drama wherein Eleanor struggles to reconcile with Edward's sexual infidelity and profligate spending.
Like I said before, Eleanor's political activities are usually kept in the background as literal set dressing. WoosWoos (of course) denounces the film's "feminist outlook", but this the only trace of this comes from the one sole feminist speech shown in the trailer. I had thought for sure that Eleanor's confrontation with Ernest Belfort Bax would be portrayed. Bax was a leading Marxist theorist with rhetoric similar to today's Men's Rights Activist movement; as an open opponent of women's suffrage he provoked an incensed Eleanor Marx to challenge him to a public debate (Bax refused). Bax is nowhere to be seen, nor any other major figures from the British socialist movement. Instead, the climactic event in the story is a (fictional) deathbed revelation from Engels that Karl Marx was the real father of Freddy Demuth, therefore exposing that her father was just as deceitful as Aveling. (The "Marx's illegitimate son" theory is probably not true, see
https://www.marxists.org/subject/marxmyths/terrell-carver/article.htm)
I have a few more things to nitpick: first, practically none of the figures portrayed in the film are recognizable compared to their historic photographs. This can be forgiven for the lead roles, but a little extra makeup would go a long way for fans of the Marxist Cinematic Universe to spot cameos in the background, like Liebknecht, Bernstein, etc. Second, while all the actors give decent performances, the script is flawed. It waters down the political content and adds exposition (IE, no family nicknames like "Mohr" and "The General"), but apparently not enough to appease general critics. On the flipside of this the Marxist audience is slighted, the characterization of Engels for example feels completely wrong. Enough things have been changed for dramatic license that I don't trust the characterization of Eleanor to be "real". Finally, the anachronistic punk rock soundtrack is cringeworthy every single time it shows up. The absolute worst scene is the inexplicable dance sequence at the end, which - apparently - symbolizes the moment Eleanor decided to end her life.
Overall score: 1.5/4 stars. TL;DR: plodding romantic drama devoid of political content that fails both as entertainment and as a historic biopic. Skip unless you're really bored.
>>16464>Marxist Cinematic Universe lol
I hope they showed engles speech on marx's funeral
>the characterization of Engels for example feels completely wrongYOO HE'S ACTUALLY IN THE MOVIE?!??
>Eleanor Marx's political life is almost entirely kept out of view you say it is kept out of view but here in the excerpt it looks pretty clear front and center, is this the only instance of it? and I see what you mean by "using the political activities as literal set dressing"
>>16467>I hope they showed engles speech on marx's funeralUnfortunately, no. Although thinking about it reminds me of his characterization again, the Engels shown in the movie could never deliver that famous speech.
>YOO HE'S ACTUALLY IN THE MOVIE?!??Not as an essential role but yes, he has a few scenes. Pic related is him in the movie.
>you say it is kept out of view but here in the excerpt it looks pretty clear front and center, is this the only instance of it?Pretty much yes. There is a montage style scene showing her day-to-day political work that I excerpted from, then one more speech that implies Aveling's abuse inspired Eleanor to become a feminist. This biopic of a famous revolutionary has maybe five minutes worth of political content.
i've never watched network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJcwhat is this speech about
is it the corporate character going full "capitalism is everything, there is no idpol" type speech
i can't be arsed to listen to the entire thing
>>16476Watch the movie, it's even on the /leftypol/ reading list AND a top movie of all time.
If you don't have time or are a lazy bastard:
The main character, news anchor Howard Beale, suffered a mental breakdown and rants about the world being shit. His jaded boss lets it air because "it's the truth", and instead of being fired, Beale becomes start of a televangelist-like show. He has delusions of being a prophet, and at one point he learns about and preaches against how the TV station's conglomerate parent is about to be sold to the Saudis. A chairman of the conglomerate, Arthur Jensen (Ned Beatty), then brings him to a room and performs this speech to manipulate him into preaching his "corporate cosmology", similar to what you said, a 'money is the quantum of life today, there aren't nations or peoples, just money', which he claims will someday bring a post-warfare, post-scarcity, post-mortal utopia. (The "why me?" back and forth at the end verbatim mirrors what Beale claimed God had said to him in an earlier scene) >>16478Literally? Read the wikipedia synopsis.
Thematically? A satire of television corporate media in general, in particular profit-over-morals, media circus, media desensitization and dehumanization.
https://twitter.com/johencho/status/1407076394652225549I don't get it
Why is everybody saying the boyfriend from Devil Wears Prada was bad and the villain?
From where I see it, He was the right one. She was becoming too bougie and he maturely left her
>>17911reading the letterboxd reviews made me think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, i felt insane
somebody quoted a line from the movie and it was the goofiest shit imaginable. something out of cartoon. but they wrote up so much fluff on how great the movie is.
sometimes i feel like people just keep this long prank going on where they praise a thing because others are praising it too just to keep some random semblance of status quo going on
do you remember anything else about watching it in theatres? it's been a long while since i've been in one
recount anything if you can
2001 like most of Kubrick's work is overrated garbage
Some of my favorites:
> Chinatown> Solaris / (Mirror, Stalker)> Vertigo/ (Rear View, Psycho)> Salo, or 120 Days of Sodom> Akira>>16477Network is garbage and the director is a Proudhonist
and an actual Zionist - his Marxist hateboner is apparent too.
accelerationAcceleration>>15697Груз 200
Awful film (see
>>10107 ) but made in such a way that it leaves you black inside - I only recommend if you like being suicidal.
>>15616А Зори Здесь Тихий
Отец Солдата
Они Срожались За Родину
В Бой Идут Одни Старики
Освобождение
Аты Баты Шли Солдаты
Жаворонок (1965)
>>13798 Try Archive.is, the site must have made itself PPV
>>17934The director is anarchist?
Why does he hate marxists
>>17936Speaking of Kubrick what did that furry oral sex in the Shining mean?
It's so fucking weird and confusing
>>17951It was a garbage film but despite him being portrayed as an idiot, The Captain was the best character in the movie.
Also
>Tattooing "Karl Marx" on your knuckles is a weird thing to do even for a communist More than weird, it was something Prisoners would tattoo in the GULAG to mock communists.
>>17954>More than weird, it was something Prisoners would tattoo in the GULAG to mock communists.wtf how does that mock the communists
did they think they would escape out and beat the communists with their fists thus being ironic?
>>17964well yes that irony is a part of it, but frankly it' a bit hard to explain Russian prison life, myself being aware of it only through people I knew who were there. It's similar to people tattooing religious figures and other stuff on themselves in prison there, there is a double meaning within the criminal world, that only criminals really know, like the origins of their nicknames and such.
>>18003The Black Widow movies, basically it's that shitty Red Sparrow but less graphic and with bad humor thrown in.
Anyone seen picrel? It has some pretty good reviews.
It's a chinese movie about communist spies that received training in the Soviet Union doing a job over at the puppet state of Manchuko.
Trailer:
https://youtu.be/dlQYk0O56HU>>18426 (me)
I've watched it, and it's a very good spy movie. At the beginning, we see one of the communists spilling out details about the operation to avoid being shot, but our four protagonists don't know about it. The operation is kaput from the start, which makes sure the movie is always tense. All of the spies are smart, making moves to withhold/extract information from others. This feels exactly like what a spy movie should feel.
Unfortunately, I can't say I enjoyed the movie to it's fullest. There were moments where I couldn't absorb new information fast enough. All the characters wear the same clothes, which did not make things easier, plus I find remembering their names quite hard. A character/event flowchart would be a welcome companion while watching it.
From what I've been able to research, this is actually a prequel to the 2012 tv show "悬崖" (Cliff) by the same writer, Quan Yongxian. In an interview (
https://inf.news/entertainment/bd5332246260958e06dc8ead644ec3da.html), he said that in 2015 he had written the script for this prequel as a 60-episode show.
If this had been a tv show – or even a book –, where things could flow in a more friendly pace, this would've been a absolute must watch. Overall, it is a very good movie, and I recommend anyone interested to watch it, even though you'll scratch your head sometimes and may wish to rewind a bit to understand what is happening (though I didn't, and was still able to enjoy it very much).
Anyone seen L'An 01?
>The film narrates a utopian abandonment, consensual and festive of the market economy and high productivity. The population decides on a number of resolutions, beginning with "Let's stop everything," and the second "After a period of total stoppage, let's bring back — reluctantly — just the services and products we can't do without. Probably : water to drink, electricity for reading at night, the radio to say 'This is not the end of the world, this is Year 1, and now a page of Celestial Mechanics." The implementation of these resolutions is the first day of a new era, Year 1. L'An 01 is emblematic of the challenge of the 1970s and covers such diverse topics as ecology, negation of authority, free love, communal living, rejection of private property and labor.
>>18429I'll watch this
It looks like there'll be boobs innit
>>18882>Is Godzilla vs King Kong a fun movie fully to watchThere's a good review of the movie from a cinematographical perspective on the /m/ thread on
>>>/anime/ It's a fun, cheesy but generally silly movie, so maybe not to your tastes.
>>18973Thanks for the new piracy site
>>18974And Thanks for the review. I feel like I can enjoy this movie.
>>16479You forgot the part about the militant black leftist organization and the absurdity of capitalist media recuperating revolutionary ideas.
I feel that was a big part of it.
>>16345it literally starts off with him raping a woman in an alley
that should've made it crystal clear
>>25758his movies were inspired by the italian version of pulp fiction
how did you not realize it was schlock
>>25757no way
that's fucked up, watching a movie?
what is this, a film general
>>25763he got pussy instead of blowing up rich industrialists
still a W, I guess
>>25825what movie will todd howard rip off this time?
there's nothing left, is there
the king of comedy, taxi driver
>>25926it's gonna be a musical
what movies are they take inspiration from
>>25924letterboxd, the site i watch movies from, social media
i have like 300 movies on my watchlist, there's loads and loads of ways to find movies
there's also facts about movies, actors and film and inspirations from stuff you've already watched
>>25924imdb, repertory cinemas, dvd/blu-ray releases and catalogues
kino lorber, re:voir and criterion are good places to start
>>25938don't use letterboxd, it's full of american college students and terrible for finding the good shit since most people focus on absolute garbage and schlock
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2022/04/dog-day-afternoon-liz-eden-littlejohn-basso-al-pacino-trans-historyDog Day Afternoon
Idk what marxist shit there is to analyse in film but there's something that's said in this article
>>27550All casting controversy aside, they are probably gonna do it in English, so what's the point?
All in all, it seems like a shitty project, as the other anon pointed about it just sounds like gusano propaganda.
Pic related was at least pretty well made.
>>27549As if it wasn't obvious enough it was going to be a piece of shit. Unless they have some genius idea, this will be up there as one of the most unnecessary sequels ever.
>>27550>>27609I wonder how much they want to do this based on Death of Stalin being praised. I mean it's James Franco lol. IDK how they'd try to make him do a serious biopic. He does vaguely look similar to Fidel but he's a gringo and Fidel is definitely way outside his acting range. Huge miscast that suggests it's going to be mocking Castro.
>>27629LMFAO literally the opposite
actual independent news sources have their own cash flows that are clearly not coming from the movie industry, meanwhile randos on the internet could easily be hired shills and trolls
>>27603STOP POSTING JANCSÓ MOVIES. After seeing 1 Jancsó movie, you have seen every single one of them. No narrative, no coherence, all symbolism. You know what's every single Jancsó movie is like?
>empty fucking field>people talking>they start to sing>a soldier comes into the frame>a woman strips nakedAll of this is in a single ~5 minute frame, because the director likes dumping narrative elements in front of a camera instead instead of actually using them to create a narrative. No cutting, that might force Jancsó to arrange the things happening in front of the camera in an orderly way. You can't just have that, you mustn't make a movie comprehendable to humans, because you know, that's not "artistic" and shit. For roughly half a century, the taxpayer money of decent Hungarian working people was wasted on this shit. For the most part this took place under the leadership of a "communist" government. This really tells you a lot about how serious was the committment of Hungarians to communism (the same is true about progress in general and human decency).
You are not the chosen brother, Eli.. t’was Paul, who’s chosen. You see, he found me and told me about your land, you’re a fraud. I did what your brother couldn’t. I broke you and I beat you. It was Paul who told me about you, he’s the prophet. He’s the smart one. He knew what was there, he found me, to take it out of the ground, and you know what the funny thing is? Listen, listen, listen… I paid him 10 thousand dollars, cash in hand [slap] just like that. He has his own company now… a prosperous little business, three wells producing 5 thousand dollars a week. [chinless whimper heard] STOP CRYING, YOU SNIVELLING ASS, STOP YOUR NONSENSE. You’re just a afterbirth, Eli… that slithered up your mother’s filth. They should’ve put you in a glass jar on a mantlepiece. Where were you when Paul was suckling at his mother’s teat, where were you? Who was nursing you, poor Eli?
>>28656yts.mx has a little known feature that allows sorting by language and imdb rating ie it allows listing of every russian film by imdb rating, or release date, or genre. All other world cinema too. It's an affliction tbh because there is no excuse for watching capeshit when all that quality is so available and well seeded.
I did a search for lo fi sci fi on letterboxd. Some really quality Russian films from all eras. Just on a different level to something like the total waste of time that is Deus.
>>29121yifi has done so much for film preservation
i see so many movies that i wouldn't have found anywhere else if they weren't seeding it
like daltry calhoun
>>29182 The film is unoriginal trash that steals the premise of an existing Soviet film and inserts holly-wood bombastic decoration.
>>29187 >Orson Welles being intensely arrogant yet calling someone quiet and unassuming to be arrogant >muh ChaplinGuy really had a bug up his ass because people only remember him for Citizen Kane and transformers, apparently.
BTW it comes from this
https://www.vulture.com/2013/06/orson-welles-lunch-with-henry-jaglom.html which is just excerpted from a book "My Lunches With Orson: Conversations Between Henry Jaglom and Orson Welles" by Peter Biskind
>>29193wait what , he was in transformers??!?
>>29200Do we have a pirated copyRIP Mr.Wells
>>29203After sitting through a lifetime of western imperialist garbage it's such a breath of fresh air to see the nationalist garbage put out by other countries.
Recent Chinese war movies have been just fucking top. Lots of themes of group co-operation with top, top technical kino.
Plenty of nationalist Russian war film post 91 is good too. You don't like hearing your stories from the opposite perspective anon?
Seperately, look at what the right are cutting into movie trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWXiku8xFnM OK normies, here's a list of goodies moovies i guess
>10/10
City of God, Hard Candy, Drive(haha yeah bro really funny drive reference), In Bruges, Akira, Badlands, Fallen Angels, Hellboy 1, Black Coal Thin Ice, The Terrorizers, Dead Mans' Letters, Pink Flamingos, Der Todesking, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Natural Born Killers
>7 and above
BATMAN(the one with that twink), Goodfellas, Godfather 1&2, Like Someone in Love, Tokyo Night Sky is Always the Densest Shade of Blue, Bladerunner 2049, Nice Guys, Road Games, Mondo Trasho, Miami Vice, Seven Psychopaths, Obi Oba End of Civilisation, Promising Young Woman, Scarface, Cecil B. Demented
>bad bad bad movies, don't watch. very bad. don't recommend.
Megan is Missing(holy hell this was scary as fuck), Headless(about a man who beheads women and fucks the skull), Movie 43(dont watch), Rubber(about a tire who kills ppl very weird movie), LA SLASHER!!!(this i actually liked to a degree. watch LA SLASHER.)
see ya normie fucks.
>>29292what do you believe is a good rating system, or is a rating system itself inflammatory to judge art?
i use a very simple metric, which is like or didn't like, also would rewatch is a metric
>>29354Something along the lines of
—Personally recommended
—Interesting at least
—Don't bother
You should just use your words to describe your appraisal of a movie, in the end
>>15959>>29381Reminder that Tommy Wiseau was born in the USSR
SOVIETCHADS KEEP DOMINATING EVERY MOVIE CATEGORY
BEST, WORST
>>29647Can someone explain the logistics of how countries like India get outsourced for VFX work but their own movies don't have good cgi work?
Is it because they're occupied or is CGI in film like copyrighted, are there trade secrets?
>>29647Looks like Hindutva propaganda
I guess they don't have much standards
>>29649It's true it does but the funny thing is they're the ones seething about it lol
I don't know if they're marketting it to them or just doing a cool movie, but those twats have really eaten up all the cool hindu mythology
First hitler and now these shitheads, I fucking hate them so much
Religion is cool asf looking without rightoids
>>29353>But what about film? Movies are all in 24fps so does a higher refresh rate do anything?>I can't find anything online about this>24 SeptemberReally? There is currently hype going around about exactly this for Avatar 2 and the Avatar 1 rerelease that just hit theaters.
High Frame Rate has been tried with the Hobbit trilogy in order to make the 3D work better there. It was pretty hit and miss though, because they made the entire film trilogy 48 fps, and even the slower paced scenes felt like they were in fast forward. It was a new technique and very unfinished and on the whole it was distracting and the 3D was not great anyway. (Also the movies sucked.)
This idea originated with Avatar 1, which Cameron realized during production had some issues with the 3D during certain scenes with a lot of movement. The idea was passed around at the time to increase the frame rate to make the scenes easier to see (too few frames and too much movement led to blurring that looks extra bad in 3D). Cameron's approach however is to
selectively use higher frame rates only for certain sequences/shots where it would actually help, and to crank up or down between them. The Avatar sequels have footage that's designed for and rendered in a higher frame rate. They have previews of some of these scenes in theaters with the Avatar 1 re-release, and the Avatar 1 remaster also has some parts rendered in HFR. IDK how well it works though because the theater where I saw the re-release did not use a HFR projector (and did shamefully bad job on the audio and visuals in general).
Generally 24fps is seen as "real film" but that's really just tradition and what people are accustomed to. I don't think there's any scientific basis for 24fps looking better to the eye, but there's certainly monetary reasons for studios to prefer not to invest into higher frame rates since that means more data you have to store for each film. The usual criticism you see for HFR is "it looks like a soap opera" because traditionally those are shot with cameras that have higher frame rates. But it's really just an association people have. Nowadays there is probably more association with video games.
>>29684Actually I finally found a review of the film that isn't deepthroating the "cool fighter jet movie 2.0"
A 700 word succinct analysis that perfectly encapsulates the fascistic idiotic concepts of the film:
https://letterboxd.com/bretterbox/film/top-gun-maverick/ The military's response to the review essentially boils down to "it's just fiction maaaan, can't you just forget reality and politics? Movies are totally made in a vaccum!"
And nitpicking the error of the unnamed enemy country in the story not be Iran but instead a standin for either Russia, the DPRK or China… all of which makes the film fundementally WORSE because that means that a country fielding 5th generation fighters is also fielding SA-3s as their main air-defense (never mind that since they bothered to cruisemissile-strike an airbase, they should have just used HARMs to take out the SAMs and avoid the stupid canyon run entirely. Not to mention that they're fucking ATTACKING NUCLEAR COUNTRIES - literally provoking nuclear retaliation. And I'm not even going into the Russians constantly tracking ALL US carriers at all times and having comprehensive coastal defense as a direct asymmetrical response to carrier fleets. You'd think an area like a secret nuclear facility'd be a damn bit more defended. But I digress. The same response also takes a jab at MintPress for exposing the military propaganda reasons of the film by saying "Everybody already knows that" ignoring that
A) No, people genuinely do not know this
B) This contradicts the idea of "just take it in a vacuum man"
C) That this implies that people realize that the film is essentially war-mongering and are blood-thirsty enough to like that and that this is a good thing apparently…
This coming from the same faggots that cry and bitch about Russian and Chinese military power in parades.
https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2022/06/15/this-angry-critic-gave-top-gun-maverick-just-half-a-star/https://www.mintpressnews.com/top-gun-maverick-military-propaganda-official-documents/281077/To round off, I honestly enjoyed Jurassic World: Dominion more than this shit, at least that one is truly fictional and not military fapping and I could just enjoy the stupid fun and dinosaurs.
>>29805I saw afterwards that it was based partially on a book. I've never read anything by Stanislav Lem but it sounds like it'd be a fun read. might add it to my ever-growing stack of books.
I also just saw that he wrote the book that the movie Solaris is based on, so I'm more interested now.
>>29826Neil Breen is absolute kino, the greatest living auteur director
>>29947the lighting in the bottom image is totally flat and they clearly tried to fix it in post by just adding a stupid filter over it. compare to the top image where the use of harsh lighting contrasts helps to create a visual language for the narrative of the film; Michael Myers is a psychotic weird stalker who seemingly can appear from anywhere and keep coming back, literally out of the darkness (classic symbolism for mysterious and evil things). the whole movie really is a great example of the use of lighting, especially the end sequence with all the different shots of the house with the shadows everywhere. it helps to create the atmosphere of what it feels like to be alone in a big empty house at night where every shadow feels like it could have something sinister lurking in it. another great example of that is House of the Devil.
compare that to the second image where there's essentially no visual language. it just looks flat with a piss filter added in post to try to mimic the appearance of having a style. I think they even tried to make Michael Myers' mask look "spookier" rather than using fillmmaking techniques to make him a scary character.
>>29949>the use of lighting, especially the end sequence with all the different shots of the house with the shadows everywherei didn't see any shadows but it was very spooky the just showed the house and neighborhood
they filmed that on the last day, and had money to clean some of the house, and had to film very carefully
so stupid how with better equipment they shoot worse nowadays
>>29955To paraphrase the Milwaukee hack frauds, computer graphics made stupid easy
>>29961Which other stories?
>>30399you do realize your critique of them does sound as banal as their critique of movies?
letterboxd is just like twitter comedians most of the time, it's irritating, but? i sometimes find thoughtful stuff
>>30522i resetting everything and hdr off still looks more better
wtf is going on
Lol LMAO even:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalker_(1979_film)
>Several people involved in the film production, and possibly Tarkovsky himself, died from causes that some crew members attributed to the film's long shooting schedule in toxic locations. Sound designer Vladimir Sharun recalled:
> "We were shooting near Tallinn in the area around the small river Jägala with a half-functioning hydroelectric station. Up the river was a chemical plant and it poured out poisonous liquids downstream. There is even this shot in Stalker: snow falling in the summer and white foam floating down the river. In fact it was some horrible poison. Many women in our crew got allergic reactions on their faces. Tarkovsky died from cancer of the right bronchial tube. And Tolya Solonitsyn too. That it was all connected to the location shooting for Stalker became clear to me when Larisa Tarkovskaya died from the same illness in Paris."[18]Well at least they didn't go unpunished for wasting my time.
>>30634- Joan Root murdered for her activist work by people involved in poaching.
- James Miller, mudered by the IDF while filming in occupied Palestine.
- Christian Poveda, murdered by El Salvadorian gangs for his documentary on them
- Theo van Gogh, murdered by an islamist for a short on abuse against women in Islamic societies.
>>30783that's fucked up, did all these deaths happen before the 2000s?
>>30634pier paolo got by the mob right? i forget what was the reason
>>30936that's fucked up, hopefully they'll die out soon
don't even understand how you grow racist against other people when the internet didn't exist
the government made them racist against Vietnamese
do you know more about the war? why and how, did south Vietnam, accidentally or intentionally bring the US into it
i don't know how biased the wikipedia is on this topic
Watched "Nightmare Alley" earlier, been to work, going to watch it again now, it's that good.
There was a 1940s version of this film, based on the same book.
Basically, it's a neo—noir, but set in a carnival for the first part. Same sort of setting as Todd Browning's "Freaks".
The main character is basically a grifter, a con artist. There's a lot in the film about "reading" the "mark", picking up on clues about the victim of the con. And psychological tricks. If anyone remembers the ONA wampir threads from a few months back, it's the same sort of thing Anton Lavey was on about, how to trick and manipulate people , except he called it "lesser black magic."
Great film, has some strong characters, William Dafoe as the nasty boss of a gimp, there's a platinum blonde shrink, Ron Perlman as the circus boss.
Very dark and cynical, but cathartic at the end. Mark Kermode in a review said it was like a Greek tragedy.
>>30946 (me)
>watch Nightmare Alley on repeat >next day go to the burger van for breakfast >always thought the guy there looks like William Defoe, >with the same air of quiet menace >if anything the burger van guy looks has an air of greater menace>won't say which burger van it is >but it's one in London>and if you've ever been there you'll know immediately who I'm talking about>in my mind… >guy gives me a burger>says if you're looking for a job>it's only temporary, >and then but I won't spoil a great bit in the film if you haven't seen it
>>31033Godfather 1+2 and Goodfellas are pretty great movies. Look at all the memes Goodfellas produced.
I might've liked Godfather more but now I might appreciate Goodfellas more because he did a better job of portraying Mafia as the unhinged low lifes they are instead of god like masterminds living by "the code" or whatever.
>>31041>I wish Scorcese would branch out more often into other genres instead of making the same gangster movie again and again.He does. The Irishman was kind of pointless I'll agree, but not terrible.
Gangs of New York had enough other flavor with the time and setting to make it interesting. I liked The Departed pretty well too. I actually kind of liked it more than the original.
>>31043I'm stupid he didn't do Godfather.
I really liked Casino too.
>>31049Every gangster movie ever. They're still pretty entertaining.
How many gangster flicks have Al Pacino and Deneiro done?
>>31073boomer fantasy i guess, lot of them watching it
why is the movie psychotic btw?
>>31041i know he made one that doesn't sound like gangster flick, it's about some date a guy has in a diner
i guess he makes them because he's italian and has knowledge about that stuff
>>31043wait holy shit the departed is a remake? was it hong kong?
also yeah i've watched neither movies but i just now watched a trailer of the 50th anniversary of god father and goodfellas and the latter sounds much more of a good time
also that's good that he shows them as low lifes, that comes through the trailer
the maifa i hear liked godfather
>>31044who is your favourite auteur?
>>31049lol
>>31268Directors nowadays think it's "immersion" when you can't see shit in night scenes. Past directors focused more on visibility, just look at the first Terminator, the entire movie almost takes place and night and you can see everything crystal clear.
I think if you want to make a scene too dark as a stylistic device you need to explain why you want that specifically in that context, not just do it for the lolz.
Non-Western movies don't suffer from it as much (sometimes Japanese ones do) becasue the directors there are more old school.
>>31145Most actors in the old Roman movies like Laurence Olivier were great. I also like Gary Oldman but he is so wasted in all the shitty popculture flicks. Bruno Ganz was great. As for the female side, probably just from French one but I can't remember the name now.
I don't wanna sound racist but I don't know any Asian actor I like, the Kabuki theatre overplaying makes it hard for me to appreciate them.
>>31501What do you mean?
They were trying to basically hack into Morpheus's brain. And yes they chase people on foot, but can also hijack people if they need. The agents are ultimately bound by the rules of the matrix, something which hackers aren't, meaning Neo etc. Only Neo is a good enough hacker to actually defy the rules of the Matrix though. Also agents don't control the system. They are sentient programs whose function is to control the matrix, like cops. If they stop doing their job effectively, they might get kicked out from the matrix. Or did you mean the Matrix 4?
>>29942"Day-for-night" filming. Basically the studio and the production firm place so much pressure on the crew that they have to film night scenes at day and have the post-production staff turn it into night, making it look like shit. You can almost always tell when a night scene was shot during the day.
What I am wondering is how older movies who did the same thing still manage to make it look better without even having computers lmao
Just saw Avatar 2. I must applaud James Cameron for making the water Navi so hot.. They are thicker, curvier than the blue noodle people. You get couple clearly intentionally eroticized shots of water tribe chiefs nymphet daughter.
As for the movie itself, it was ok. I know the first one was about as clique as they come, but still had emotional weight behind it. This one not so much. There no longer is a singular main character, the screen time is spread too thin between all the members of Sully family and evil colonel. The environmental themes also took the back seat, humans are still destroying nature for profit, but the story is now driven by colonels desire to get revenge on Sully. And the ending action scene kept on dragging forever.
Also, I felt the movie was kind of hypocritical when it comes to its environmental themes, like the humans hunt alien whales to extract immortality serum from them, and its treated as a horrible thing, but you get numerous whimsical scenes of Navi killing animals.
>>31503>>31506Haha I mean the scene with Neo's mouth, right near the start. I suppose it can be rationalized because
he hasn't been removed from the farms yet, so they have physical access to his brain but eh, it feels like they're magicians but they have to resort to hand-to-hand combat.
>>31555Well it's a simulation. They should be able to do all kinds of stuff. However you are right in a sense that never use that shit for the rest of the trilogy and just use fists, which is a bit weird.
Thinking about it, I don't think The Matrix has aged well aesthetically. It's too 90s, with the leather coats and the sunglasses that look like the types bicyclists wear. Today you'd probably go for aviator shades and shorter coats.
>>31529>There no longer is a singular main character, the screen time is spread too thinCameron has some weird ideas about releasing movies simultaneously in theaters and on streaming services, but as two different versions with the streaming version being more like a series. He probably was already experimenting with structuring the movie along those lines. Heard several people compare Avatar 2 to a series in terms of how the scenes are broken up. That seems like a more interesting topic than the movie itself.
>>31558>>31591It should probably also be noted that if you have some immortality serum and you don't harvest it sustainably you will eventually run out and stop being immortal.
>>31555I think it's implied that the way they jack people into the matrix from outside works differently and the machines have less control over people. I mean you actually see a visual difference in the connections to the characters. They initially have plugs all over their body vs the single plug in their head they use later.
>>31723>Thinking about it, I don't think The Matrix has aged well aesthetically. It's too 90sIt was ridiculously 90s even in the 90s tbh. But that's kind of the point. IIRC it's Smith who says that the simulation intentionally chose a specific peak period, and that being the 90s is actually kind of prescient in retrospect.
>>31726Neo having IRL powers makes no sense because he would need some kind of wifi, but Smith overriding somebody's mind isn't a stretch when the programs can basically do whatever they want to your brain.
>>31800I know Cameron is a madman, but this can't be real can it?
>>38758I've got a bunch of recs.
Any genres in particular?
>>38789Right on, I'll try to group them by country, I think.
I'll put the plot outlines from imdb too to give you an idea of each movie.
Spain (mostly thrillers/mysteries with a few horror movies at the end):
El reino
>A Spanish politician whose high-class lifestyle is based on nefarious and illegal business threatens to break his entire party after a newspaper exposes him to the public eye.As bestas
>An expatriate French couple operate an organic farm in the Spanish countryside but clash with villagers.Que dios nos perdone
>Inspectors Velarde and Alfaro must find what appears to be a serial killer. This hunt against the clock will make them realize something they'd never thought about: neither one of them is that different from the killer.La isla minima
>Two cops lost in the deep south of Spain. One serial killer to catch. A lot of secrets and lies to disclose.Tarde para la ira
>A hard-working single mother and wife of a getaway driver who is about to be released is approached by an unassuming and gentle man, completely unaware though of his inscrutable and utterly impelling motives.Celda 211
>The story of two men on different sides of a prison riot – the inmate leading the rebellion and the young guard trapped in the revolt, who poses as a prisoner in a desperate attempt to survive the ordeal.>Contratiempo>A successful entrepreneur accused of murder and a witness preparation expert have less than three hours to come up with an impregnable defense.Mientras duermes
>Cesar, a miserable man who works as an apartment concierge, takes a special interest in an attractive woman who lives there. He goes to great lengths to trouble her.El Orfanato
>A woman brings her family back to her childhood home, which used to be an orphanage for handicapped children. Before long, her son starts to communicate with an invisible new friend.Tesis
>While doing a thesis about violence, Ángela finds a snuff video where a girl is tortured until death. Soon she discovers that the girl was a former student in her faculty…Los cronocrímenes
>A man accidentally gets into a time machine and travels back in time nearly an hour. Finding himself will be the first of a series of disasters of unforeseeable consequences.Musarañas
>1950s Madrid: The agoraphobic Montse raised her now 18 y.o. kid sister. The upstairs neighbor falls down the stairs and breaks a leg. The crazy Montse takes him in.[REC]
>A television reporter and cameraman follow emergency workers into a dark apartment building and are quickly locked inside with something terrifying.I also highly recommend the series Antidisturbios.
>A fictionalised look into the human tragedy of riot police and police brutality in Spain.Mexico (some political satire and drama. Go for any of the first three, if you want a good comedy - although they are much more than that. Matando cabos is dumb fun, if you're in the mood for that):
El Infierno
>After being deported back to Mexico, a man has no choice but to join the vicious drug cartel that has corrupted his hometown in order to survive.La ley de Herodes
>A naive man appointed as an acting mayor of a small town turns into a corrupt politician capable of anything to stay in power.La dictadura perfecta
>After accepting a colossal bribe, a powerful TV conglomerate gins up fake news stories to enhance the image of a notoriously corrupt politician.Matando cabos
>A dark, offbeat comedy about a group of Mexico City teens embroiled in a kidnapping involving a retired wrestling legend and a parrot.Ya no estoy aquí
>In Monterrey, Mexico, a young street gang spends their days dancing to slowed-down cumbia and attending parties. After a mix-up with a local cartel, their leader is forced to migrate to the U.S. but quickly longs to return home.Roma
>A year in the life of a middle-class family's maid in Mexico City in the early 1970s.Vuelven
>A dark fairy tale about a gang of five children trying to survive the horrific violence of the cartels and the ghosts created every day by the drug war.Argentina (also mostly thrillers/dramas and a couple of horror flicks at the end. Relatos salvajes is a black comedy):
Relatos salvajes
>Six short stories that explore the extremities of human behavior involving people in distress.El secreto de sus ojos
>A retired legal counselor writes a novel hoping to find closure for one of his past unresolved homicide cases and for his unreciprocated love with his superior - both of which still haunt him decades later.El aura
>A deluded taxidermist plans the perfect crime.Nueve reinas
>Two con artists try to swindle a stamp collector by selling him a sheet of counterfeit rare stamps (the "nine queens").El clan
>The true story of the Puccio Clan, a family who kidnapped and killed people in the 80s.Aterrados
>When strange events occur in a neighborhood in Buenos Aires, a doctor specializing in the paranormal, her colleague, and an ex police officer decide to investigate further.Cuando acecha la maldad
>In a remote village, two brothers find a demon-infected man just about to "give birth" to evil itself. They decide to get rid of the body, only to end up unintentionally spreading chaos.Miscellaneous:
La llorona (Guatemala)
>An aging paranoid war criminal, protected by his faithful wife, faces death while being haunted by the ghosts of his past.La casa del fin de los tiempos (Venezuela)
>Dulce is a mother of two who experiences terrifying encounters with apparitions inside her old house, a place where a tragedy occurs. Thirty years later, an elderly Dulce returns home to decipher the mystery that has tormented her for so long.La casa lobo (Chile)
>Tells the story of Maria, a young woman who takes refuge in a house in southern Chile after escaping from a German colony.Crónicas (Ecuador)
>A suspense thriller about a reporter from Miami who travels to Ecuador in pursuit of a serial killer known as the "Monster of Babahoyo."Che: Part One
In 1956, Ernesto 'Che' Guevara and a band of Castro-led Cuban exiles mobilize an army to topple the regime of dictator Fulgencio Batista.
Che: Part Two
>In 1967, Ernesto 'Che' Guevara leads a small partisan army to fight an ill-fated revolutionary guerrilla war in Bolivia, South America.Feel free to ask if you want more specifics about any of the movies listed!
>>29244How are those Russian "nationalist" movies more nationalist than say Band of Brothers, The Patriot, Saving Private Ryan, Fury, White House Down, etc. anyway? Especially the latter is full of nationalist motives that it borders on fascism. Saving Private Ryan at least gives the pretense of "war is bad" but in the end it's heavily tilted towards the Americans - five men taking out a tank squad, the sniper being a super soldier, etc. Same with the Vietnam War really, they are supposedly anti-war movies but the Vietnamese are portrayed as weak and helpless.
Also not all Russian films that receive money from the government are crazy nationalist - Sputnik for example was a movie that received money from the state movie fund and was just a good horror movie with no patriotic undertones.
The Soviet movie industry was also patriotic, there was Tarkovsky but they tolerated but they were at times suspicous of his work. And especially the Chinese and Russian war effort and blood toll in WWII are fucking buried in Hollywood with exceptions like Enemy at the Gates and The Last Emperor - well, that was made by an Italian communist. So China/Russia have every right to produce patriotic movies considering their cost was greater than that of the US. I have yet to see a Russian or Chinese movie that is openly chauvinist as well, especially when it comes to the portrayal of women.
>>39112Anyway, the Russian movie industry has taken a hit after the sanctions. They have problems contracting foreign actors, only freaks like Steven Seagal are willing to work with them. They don't have access to many Western shooting locations, let alone co-productions. They basically have to use Kaliningrad for that because it looks like Western Europe.
The Chinese industry is on the rise I imagine after it sucked for a long time. Wandering Earth and Three Body Problem catapulted them into relevancy even if redditors are still sceptical.
You can slurp down slop or you can make it mean something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_(1969_film)A masterpiece of political cinema.
Watching it, then listening to the two part Programmed to Chill podcast honestly elevates it into something even better. I like PTC a lot, but in this case the echoes of that movie and that time are literally ringing today. The level of detail that Jimmy FG goes into about the movie and *everything* surrounding and connected to it makes it even more powerful. The PTC episodes are patreon, gimme an anon filehost and I'll upload them for leftypol.
>>38758>>38791Just rewatched pic related
Absolute kino, lovely scenery and great soundtrack too.
>>39457>>39458Ooh thought of another surrealist 70s dystopain Sci Fi for you: A Boy And His Dog
Now that one is really top notch. Fallout aped the shit out of that movie.
Lol apparently it's set le current year.
Tags: lolicon, body swap, cuckold, netorare, shotacon, bdsm, gangland, prostitution, anal, double penetration,
Is the new thing going to be Hollywood just making feature length live action hentai movies?generation,
What was the message of the movie? 7 year olds just want to be child prositutes?
I wonder if a reason Fight Club, as a film, is so notable is because it describes and demonstrates a fantasy, even if ultimately it is later critical of it. A large portion of the middle of the film is dedicated to glorifying the club as escapism from the boredom and disempowerment (characterised as femininity) of the alien urban capitalist society. This is not just a simple sex scene to spike adrenaline or watching some ripped jerkoff spray a machine gun, this puts you in the middle of a self-gratifying society. A social orgy of sorts, an exciting community that you are placed in the middle of. At least in mainstream film (and that's most of what I've seen), this is extremely rare.
It's very distinct from an action film, and in a very different way from how, say, Jarhead (and Full Metal Jacket) are in their similar personal stories. We don't glimpse into a hell, in this case we glimpse into a fantasy, in a very personal way through the close-ups and fourth-wall narration.
It reminds me of a video game with the immersive violent fantasy, maybe the closest film I know of to one. Would be interested to hear of any other film that manages to parallel this fantasy fulfillment.
>>40959You're talking about Poor Things, right? Shit reminds me of Balabanov's crap in the 90s. All of this directors films are samefaced art-house nonsense obsessed with sex.
Most of it is a vulgar mess. In theory the makings of the story has the potential to be good; a girl learning to be herself in spite of her Frankenstein-like nature. But Lanthimos had to make it 'extreme' for the sake of shock value, typical modern Hollywood. Like, her childishly enjoying breaking plates is good enough, we don't need her to visibly piss herself too. If she's stabbing at corpses because her father figure does autopsies and surgeries, that makes sense but there's so much that is contradictive narratively. The book it is based on is even more boring and only slightly less vulgar; a collection of hearsay and letters and the author's rambling political opinions collaged together.
>lolicon It's kinda worse actually, since it's like a reversal of the "adult in a child's body" that crap like the 1000 year old vampire loli trope is. The question of sexuality in such a situation is a concept that Star Trek explored far more maturely and without being tasteless. The director called criticism of this constant obsession with sexuality and ghoulish violence "prudish" but I disagree. There's many movies with sex or sexual scenes that have been accepted as such. Terminator comes to mind as being basically softcore porn, and nobody batted an eye - you came for an R-Rating you expect some adult stuff. But this film just had sex because the Lanthimos was a horny fuck with a penchant for the grotesque IMO, so everything about Bella's growth is forced through a purely sexual lens. There's plenty of grotesque films that can have sexuality in it and strange exploratory themes that aren't tasteless, there's a lot of Italian and French films like that, for example Jean-Pierre Jeunet made several such films in the 90s.
>What was the message of the movie? Supposedly an inspiring journey of a woman's liberation if they could explore themselves freely from the start or some shit like that. It's why every male character is twisted as fuck. The idea itself has merit, a naiive woman with the mind of a child growing up quickly (mentally) allows for interesting scenarios, but we don't really get them. The fact that the film glosses over the interaction with other women, (especially at the brothel) is demonstrative that Lanthimos is treating her like a plot-device for the film, not a character, the only woman that has any significance is the token lesbian. When people tried to discuss the messages and ideas his film might have he stated that he would prefer not to get into "an analytic conversation"
I disagree with a lot of feminist takes because usually they're just codswallop, but this film's story and direction is the encapsulation of "le Male Gaze". The original book, boring as it is, has a distinct contrast of how men viewed and talked about Bella and how she talked about herself and her experiences of being taken advantage of. The film loses this almost entirely and feels like a parody of the book, mostly because, unlike a book, we see everything from a third-person point of view, rather than a third-person limited or first person POV.
>>40960 >X (2022) The story for this was a stereotypical 1970s slasher movie crossed with a psycho-biddy story… most movies of that genre suck TBH, and only a few are well known and considered good, usually because they have unique aspects that broke the mold despite having the usual 'group of people killed off by psycho' narrative Friday the 13th for example.
The movie (X) got an entry on this fetish site for that scene, at least she has a nice ass.
https://archive.ph/iMuQv >>41446Yes poor things.
>Most of it is a vulgar mess. In theory the makings of the story has the potential to be good; a girl learning to be herself in spite of her Frankenstein-like nature.I think the premise is fine if you don't take it to some degenerate sexual angle.
>It's kinda worse actually, since it's like a reversal of the "adult in a child's body" that crap like the 1000 year old vampire loli trope is. The question of sexuality in such a situation is a concept that Star Trek explored far more maturely and without being tasteless. Yes I know, but her brain is literally supposed to be that of ? year old or something, no clue how long after the operation the movie was supposed to start. I dunno I guess they just we're supposed to accept that her brain hyper develops because it's in an adult body.
>The director called criticism of this constant obsession with sexuality and ghoulish violence "prudish" but I disagree. There's many movies with sex or sexual scenes that have been accepted as such.You know it wasn't even the graphic sex scenes that really bothered me and I watched it with my parents too lol. I guess it was because every sex scenes was played for laughs it wasn't as awkward as usual in movies.
>The fact that the film glosses over the interaction with other women, (especially at the brothel) is demonstrative that Lanthimos is treating her like a plot-device for the film, not a character, the only woman that has any significance is the token lesbian.Her relationship with the mistress was weird as fuck. Seemed at first they were trying to imply like her naive feminism was going to make a difference at the brothel and then the mistress goes "hah black whore you aren't as popular you get punished for standing with her." Then Emma Stone gets an explanation of economic reality and basically told to STFU and service the johns and that seemed to be the final message on the sex stuff. Then they just sprinkle in some ridiculous scenes of her learning surgery and becoming socialist or whatever but nothing becomes of that.
The overall netorare plot was so weird. The whole thing sounds like something an incel would dream up but the director is turning it around and going, "yeah she wants to fuck hot assholes who want to pump and dump her instead of you while using you as a fall back after she got thousand cock stare from the sucking half the cocks in Paris, …. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING chinlet!"
>>41451We have a star trek thread in the catalog and an older thread that reached bump limit in archive.
>t.OP of the first star trek thread here. >>41452>the premise is fine if you don't take it to some degenerate sexual angle. Basically my point, but without the sexual angle it's basically just Frankenstein's Monster but Rule 63'd
>The whole thing sounds like something an incel would dream up but the director is turning it around and going, "yeah she wants to fuck hot assholes who want to pump and dump her instead of you while using you as a fall back after she got thousand cock stare from the sucking half the cocks in Paris, …. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING chinlet!"Sounds accurate, the director's every film is obsessed with sex and the ideological overtones are all liberal in every film. The part with Bella 'learning socialism' amidst a brothel is like every other liberal writer and their succ-dem comprehension of leftism.
>>41453>I've seen a lot of these despite not really being into them because my friend was obsessed with grindhouse cinema stufI saw a lot as a teen because bootleg stuff was cheap in the early 2000s and it was just to have a fun time watching stuff we weren't supposed to.
>I only mentioned it because like I said their seems to be a cuckwave in media right now. Makes sense since it is in the zeitgeist, but I just don't really remember media embracing cuckoldry as a positive thing before and all of a sudden it's everywhere. It's the internet, NTR-shit and so on has made the fetish more available to find and sexual frustrations can sometimes leak into new fetishes like this. Considering how healthy relationships are becoming rarer (in the Western hemisphere at least) it's not surprising the increased cheating and cuckshit is prevalent - its a reflection of the material social environment.
>>40959spoilers in picrel
arrest everyone involved in making this film
Reporting back from Megalopolis screening. I heard that it disregards cinematografic conventions, but that still didnt prepare me for how baffling the movie was. I cant even call it good or bad, because on what dimensions should something like this be evaluated? Despite being purposefully extremely unsuble, I still dont understand what it was about, you could delete half the scenes from the movie at random and it would in no way affect its overal structure or story. There is a heavy political commentary, but I have no idea what is it commenting on or for exactly, the only thing about this movies politics that is clear is that Coppolla doesnt like nazis, because the main bad guy (an outstanding performance by Shia LaBepuf), and I originally continued this sentense explaining what I could understand about political messaging, but as I was writing the more I realized just how confusing it is, so I deleted it, yeah, no fucking idea. So my recommendation is, if you want to see a movie unlike any you saw before, check it out.
>>43892I didn't realize they made a film of it.
>>43908Watched a play-through, in fact that's why I decided to watch the film in the first place comrade!
>>43923The second season is about the forging of the rings of dwarves and men, Sauron is now the lord of gifts (literally just in a wig) and tricks crumbydore into thinking he's a valar, even though Galadriel literally shows up first and tells him 'hey don't trust that guy he's Sauron'.
Then there's a load of pointless side plot shit, it's garbage basically
>>43917The TV is pretty much dead. I don't understand how it was poorly produced, it looked gorgeous. The writing was cringe at times, but it's fixable. The performances of Sauron and Celevrimgbie and partly Elrond were outstanding, Galadriel has some room improvement, but she was less of a girlboss and often just a bystander. The score was decent. It has had less goofy humour like the Peter Jackson movies, remember Orlando Bloom using an Uruk Hai shield as a surfboard and Aragon tossing Gimli into the pathway to a gate and they keep actually winning against multiple fully plated enemies? In general the orcs are much more scarier and better looking, they make up a bunch of decent fighters, in LotR they were basically meat shields with, even their most elite fighters were easily slain but every capable human, let alone elf. I never felt a sense of threat from orc hordes unless they used trolls. I also like Sauron to actually be a wizard in flesh and blood instead of a lidless eye which was pretty boring. They also use horses now instead of running during the fields to travel like in some video game. And come on, the writing is not that.
For the people complaining about the motivations of characters lacking, this is the same with the Jackson movies who have no development either.
They even included Tom Bimbadil which Jackson completely skipped. I don't really know what you expected from Rings of Power? Looks like your problem is more with Tolkien himself - by the way, the criticisms against RoP were pretty much the same fans levelled against the Peter Jackson movies back in the day.
Just saw Joker 2, the second of three movies I wanted to see this year. It was really good, I enjoyed it more than a second one, albeit the movie builds so much upon the first you cant really watch it standalone. Next to non-existent story, but rich thematically. Based on what I heard of discourse around the movie, I was expecting a subversive downer ending as a giant "fuck you" to the fans of the first one, but if anything, what it says is that you cant keep hiding from reality in fantasy, it denies viewer catharsis while samultaniously telling them the only way of achieving it is making your fantasy a reality. When the courtroom explosion happened I feared this is when they introduce real Joker, Dark Knight style, neuter this movie by draging it into comic book world, but no, the real Joker is just some cringy me tally ill kid with dedication. Arthur Fletcher was a man who wore a Joker costume, the movie ends with him being replaced by a guy who didnt just put on a makeup, but carved the smile into his flesh. I loved the ending, it had my eyes sparkling. Back in 2019 there was the whole hysteria about Joker triggering a beta uprising or whatever, but ironically its Joker 2 that has much higher chance of inspiring someone into commiting something criminally based.
>>43927I don't think the LOTR movies are the best thing ever, but they're CLEARLY much better than this absolute slop. Yes the show looked expensive but that's not the same as good, the amount of extras (or lack thereof) made it look comical especially in the Eregion scenes. It seemed like the director didn't want to bother with actually good crowd/city scenes like you see in GOT. GOT was way less expensive yet it's clear that the director/etc actually gave a shit at least in the first few seasons. King's Landing looked like a real lived in place whereas all the towns/cities in ROP are clearly just empty soundstages dressed up with CGI and like 20 extras even in scenes where lords are supposed to be addressing the entire city. Galadriel is bad as always, and Sauron and Curlybrindle are okay but Sauron's performance was incredibly on the nose and made CB look like an imbecile. Sauron was not a good liar or cunning at all yet CB constantly is fooled by the most basic shit. The only good bit of that was
Sauron putting him in the illusion because at least that would be convincing and demonstrated his power. But when it's just Sauron talking it's like a comedic over the top parody of an abusive gaslighting boyfriend. It's not exactly that characters are lacking motivation it's just that they're constantly holding the idiot ball due to them needing to do what the writers want them to do. It also feels like nobody and nothing is developed because there's like 6 different plots IN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLACES going on at once, which means not a single one of them is actually good.
Tom Bombadil being in it was just a slap in the face of the fans, since he's in the wrong place, and is not at all in character and is just doing generic Yoda shit. The Harfoot plotline in general is by FAR the worst one.
None of the problems with this show are Tolkien's fault, he wrote these events happening over thousands of years while the showrunners are too retarded to make that work as kind of an anthology show and instead just compressed everything into 6 months which completely breaks it.
I could go on and on about the problems with this absolute shit but basically it's clear that nobody on this project cared except maybe the CGI people/costume designers. The writers least of all, to the point it's hard to understand how a show this expensive could have come out this bad. I expect better writing from a Sifi show that cost like $1m in total.
>>43938nta but the fact that you refer to yourself in the third person ("the viewer") and like when a movie ruins your enjoyment makes you sound like a retarded pseud. it is like when people assume some food is healthy because it tastes bad and vice-versa
another stupid point is the motivation thing. you don't motivate anything by making people think, that's literally movie brain. you motivate with exaltation and simple, understandable messages. watch any propaganda movie from the time of the cultural revolution for easy examples. the only objective of artsy nonsense is to kill motivation and water down enthusiasm. I haven't seen neither the first nor the second joker movie btw
>>43946>nta but the fact that you refer to yourself in the third person ("the viewer")I dont refer to just myself, I know the movie bombed, but presumably more people than I saw it.
>and like when a movie ruins your enjoymentIt dint ruin my enjoyment, exact opposite, the fact they decided to do something interesting, rather then shit out some soulless sequel, greatly contributed to overall enjoyment of the experience.
> you don't motivate anything by making people thinkYeah, you do, if your cause isnt for retards.
>>44158>god tier production valuesI mean… it is 60% cgi, and it isn't kino cgi like that russian movie from the same time "T-34" (2018). maybe it is just that I'm not used to the lighting and color palette they used. imo we have yet to see actual high-budget, high-quality chinese historic content
>nooooo you can't expose american crimes like the korean war, slop SLOP!!1nothing that transgresses the american order and narrative can be slop, specially not in the west. that's literally the point
>>44160>it is 60% cgi, and it isn't kino cgi like that Russian movie from the same time "T-34" (2018)Sure there's cgi but it's never seemed too much. The rejection of hero lone wolf bullshit and
emphasis on cooperative group behaviors maybe make me blind to it. I'm pretty china pilled now after a lifetime of western war slop.
>"T-34" (2018)Yeah, kino af. All the Russian WW2 stuf is kino to me, even the nationalist shit. Maybe it's a reaction to so much western nationalist shit.
>imo we have yet to see actual high-budget, high-quality chinese historic contentNone of these do it for you? My personal selection of the best China war slop from the last 20 years from yts torrents.
Shadow
2018
The Eight Hundred
2020
Snipers
2022
Home Coming
2022
Water Gate Bridge
2022
The Sacrifice
2020
The Battle at Lake Changjin
2021
Railway Heroes
2021
City of Life and Death
2009
Red Cliff II
2009
The Message
2009
Red Cliff
2008
Assembly
2007
The Taking of Tiger Mountain
2014
>>44178water gate bridge was good
now post dynasty slop, I need that shit
>>44563 (me)
Also, Chinese Mulan movie best Mulan movie.
Finally saw the Barbie movie, and, while the production quality was poor for the 145 million budget, and it was a bit short, it was surprisingly genuinely radical and Feminist to the point I'm shocked Mattel signed off on it. Bold decision to make the film about Karen Carpente, loved the film's subversive use of conservative 50s iconography (barbie dolls, the "scare film", etc) to tell the story of karen carpenter and her struggles with anorexia and addiction, as well as 50s american culture more broadly.
Not sure how it made so much money though. if anything I'd've thought mattel would lose money because the unlicensed music would cost them a lot in court and the strong sex scenes, language, and drug use would mean that it won't be able to target the expected family demographic.
Least favorite out of the three. It felt like I was watching Rise of Skywalker for the first time. The film quickly goes from 0-100 and it stays at 100 for the rest of the time. It doesn't give me enough breathing room to take in everything that is happening or for me to care about the characters. For example, I wish they slowed things down for the conversation Sonic and Shadow had on the moon right after they stopped fighting, it would have added a lot more weight to what they were saying and not feel so terribly rushed. Anyhow, this non-stop fast-pace left me to keep think "huh" whenever something happens. Jim Carrey was really fun to watch, as usual, and was easily the best part of the movie.
The people that keep on hyping this movie up only talk about the references. I don't watch stuff for references, I watch for a good story, or at least one with a good amount of soul. Yes, I know this was targeted towards kids. But if 20+ year old references that are going to fall flat for little kids, are going to be what is carrying this movie, then it's not a great movie. 5/10 at best. I know that even kid me would have been confused watching this. Kids deserve better.
Post credit scene with the army of Metal Sonic immediately jobbing to Amy was another highlight, funniest shit. Dude can't get a break no matter the continuity.
>>44940I just watched with some friends. We laughed a lot. Although it had its moments of very good suspence. William Dafoe was amazing. Recomended, I will saw the other versions too.
How much has the medium changed in a century right?
I watched Kiyoshi Kurosawa's new movie: Cloud. It's about an unscrupulous online reseller. It was alright. Has some creepy moments and a surreal air which is a trademark of this director's films. Watching some analysis of it on youtube I had to roll my eyes at people saying that the movie is about capitalism, which I guess it sort of is, but nonetheless it came off as blunt and graceless to just say it like that.
Anyway, spoiler warning. Yoshii, the main character, makes a living buying cheap shit by bulk online and then reselling that shit at a markup. He doesn't care if what he's reselling is medical equipment that people need or counterfeit goods. As a consequence of his obsession (similar to that of a gambling addict) with his "job" he alienates and/or antagonizes many people. As his business grows he moves out of his tiny apartment into a bigger house out in the country with his girlfriend, Akiko. He also hires an assistant named Sano. A local early 20s kid who failed to make it in Tokyo and had return to his home town.
The assistant is the weirdest most surreal character in the movie. He instantly becomes very interested in Yoshii's job and wants to learn all about it. He also pledges a very strange but sincere loyalty to Yoshii, claiming that he's very grateful to him for giving him a job. When Yoshii's new house gets vandalized and the police seem unwilling to help, Sano takes it upon himself to investigate who did it and catch them, which he does. Seemingly beating the delinquent up and instilling a deep fear in him.
Eventually several people whom Yoshii has wronged team up to get revenge on him. They kidnap him and plan to livestream his torture and eventual death. Sano sets out to rescue Yoshii and goes about it ruthelessly. Coldly killing several of the kidnappers until he reaches Yoshii. Onces he frees Yoshii he hands him a gun and they set out to escape from the rest of the kidnappers. Along the way Yoshii himself kills several people. At first hesitantly but with increasing ease. In the end Akiko betrays him threatening him with a gun to give her all his money. In the scuffle Sano murders Akiko and Yoshii is heartbroke about it. Yoshii and Sano escape the scene. While driving away, in the most surreal scene of the movie, Sano tells Yoshii to only focus on making money and that he'll handle the rest. Yoshii asks "Where'll that get me?", Sano responds "It'll get you anything you want. Even things that can end the world", Yoshii says "I'm doomed" as they drive on the only indication of their movement is the moving sunset sky outside the car windows.
Oh god I typed all that shit just to say, I think Sano, who comes out of nowhere and is very unsettling in his willingness to do fucked up shit for Yoshii, represents an aspect of Yoshii's personality that gradually comes out as he slowly loses his morality. In the end he is completely morally bankrupt and ruined. So I guess the film is about how singleminded relentless proit seeking can drive one to moral ruin. But I don't think the film makes a strong overt condemnation of capitalism as a system. It doesn't show Yoshii being driven to unscrupulousness due to a desperate situation of destitution or even being driven to it by internalizing the constantly telegraphed values of our modern hyper capitalist society.
Check out Cloud. It's alright.
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>>45541>>45541What the fuck is Alex Garland doing making a movie like that in 20 fucking 25? There's enough glazing and venerating of operators that it can and will be easily taken as a positive portrayal of the military by those that want that. Nobody MAGA or military will see anything negative in it. Iraqi characters corpses or ciphers. I can hear the carefully rehearsed justifications Garland will be giving in interviews already, for the 10% of the audience that care.
>20+ years>1,000,000 dead>country full of depleted uranium dust and tumors>even vance now criticizing the euros for encouraging and participating in the war!!! >alex fucking garland is making movies about how war iz hell for brave injured operators who were caught on film and in photos slaughtering civiliansayy!!! now i know where the
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