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>>20275
/pol/ is truly amazing sometimes

>1. The helmet is ALL WRONG as I've explained a MILLION TIMES. Mohawks were Greek, sideways were Roman centurians
>2. The lorica segmentata definitely doesnt fit, meaning the weight distribution is all wrong. He's gonna be really tired after a knight of patroling the local bodega.
>3. The gladius is on the wrong side. Soldiers wore it on the left, because they help their scutum on the right. Difficult to draw a gladius while its blocked by a massive shield. However, it would be correct if he is larping as a centurian.
>4. The gladius also looks like the grip is too short. The ideal grip is to hold it like a hammer, and your hand fit snugly between the hilt and the pommel. If tailored correctly, your chops/swings will be so much more powerful.
>5. The blue cape isnt bad, blue was a rare dye back in the day. If he is indeed larping as a centurian, the color matches, as centurians were generally aristocrats from rich families.
>6. Romans didnt call it the SPQR or had any flag. Whats up with the scorpion, is he saying he has aids or something?

All in all, it looks like he got most of his shit from a flea market or wish.com
Proper tailoring of armor and weapons are just as important as having them. This is why the armor style fell out of use, it was too complicated to make and future generations couldn't use handmedowns effectively
Also, no chainmail?

Imagine how humiliating it would be to get your ass kicked dressed like that

>>20277
Is there any practical reason for the head brush or is it purely aesthetic?

>>20279
wasn't the lorica sqaumata more common during Most of the empire ?

>>20281
I have absolutely no idea I’m asking the Caesarboo anon

>>20279
Centurians used a sideways plumage. This js because they were always in the front line. He entire squad needed to know where he was at all times. However, the plumage often worked against them, signaling to enemies who the biggest target was.
The Greeks probably wore them the way they did as a form of intimidation, and perhaps a way to signal that they were infact Greek.
Obviously the Romans took the style and look from the Greeks.
Eventually, the Romans stopped wearing them into battle, because of how annoying they were. They began only wearing them for triumphs and parades and religous occasions.

>>20281
Yeah, the early empire used them a lot, when it was prosperous. The later empire did away with it in favor of chainmail and cataphracts

if cops came at protests dressing like romans,why can't rioters arrive dressing like anti-romans? the choices are limitless,you got the punics,the egyptians(it will even go perfectly with BLM),the greeks,the germans,and my favorite,the gauls,just look at that helmet.

>>20284
Do you think a line of riot cops could stand their ground against a Scythian cavalry charge and subsequent retreating arrow shots?
Probably not.

>>20278
I'm just saying, a common weapon among protesters is Molotov cocktails, and this guy is wearing a Mohawks and a cape that is probably made of cotton, do the math.

>>20285
they can't but training/feeding horses at this time and age is very costy, so just find a bike with really good performance,grab a pole and just charge them or somthing.

>>20277
You have the sword and shield thing backwards. They carried their shields on the left and wore their scabbards on the right (in contrast to typical expectation for swords) to draw more easily while in formation.

>>20287
That wont work. The point of shock calvalry is to but as much weight behind the charge.

You can see them walk up slowly, conserving energy, stopping just out of missile range.
Then they all start galloping as close together as they can. You see them get closer and closer. You hear the far off rumble.
They arent even halfway to you, and the ground is shaking. Your armor is rattling, your comrade to either side lower their pikes, and you remember to do the same. You realize the pike is fucking heavy, your arms start trembling.
They're almost there, its louder than anything you've ever heard. They spread out, and you see hundreds of other horses that were hiding behind the closely packed front line. They lower their spears.
Your comrade breaks, and flees.
They're almost there. Your head is ringing from the hundreds of 1 ton beasts trampling the ground. You look behind you, and all your comrades are gone
you couldn't hear the order to retreat, the battle was already lost, and now you are dead

If you watch the movie "Napoleon" (which was made with the help of the red army BTW), even well trained and disciplined soldiers couldnt stop themselves from breaking during a fake and entirely safe scenario. The power of a cavalry charge would give people PTSD back then.

tl;dr lorica segmentata isnt bullet proof lol

>>20288
Yeah you're right.
He's doing 1 thing right at least

>>20284
>the egyptians(it will even go perfectly with BLM)
Bruh, not this shit again…

>>20291
you can't escape the culture war anon, no matter how much time passes,idpol comes back again to bite you in the ass.

>>20285
tfw you will never shoot riot cops from horse back with your compound recurve bow….

>>20289
always thought nobody really thinks hard enough about how much of an advantage certain old timey weapons gave you.

If you are some peasant with basic weapons, a fully armoured knight was more or less invincible unless you can knock them over or hit a weak spot, but in terms of penetrating their armour with your shit sword, spear, whatever, doubtful. Also the weapon they have is probably a much better quality than yours.

imagine trying to cut through thick steal with another piece of steel, you get one swing and then then chop you to pieces because you only have some half ass leather thing. Plus, these guys have been trained since birth, and eat a much, much better diet than you. Its really no contest. Now put that on a horse and x by 100, you're fucked. Fleeing is the logical thing to do. There is basically no way you can win, you are a place marker so slow the charge down while they get shot with arrows.

>>20294
Pretty much.
Full plate armor wasnt even that heavy, given it was properly fitted.
Your only hope against a fully armored knight was to use some sort of blunt weapon, or slip your sword into a gap in the helmet or armpit.
Some armors were even rated for bullet proofing against primitive guns. If you see a round dent in a helmet or piece of armor in a meuseum, it might be from the test.

>>20294
>>20295
Heres a fairly accurate short film about a knight kicking ass
https://youtu.be/8vYFFx4whoE

>>20295
when you say not that heavy how heavy are we talking? In kilograms if possible

>>20295
After you guys are done mods should merge this into the HEMA thread on >>>/hobby/3859

>>20297
It varies wildly.
English armors were different from German armors were different from Czech armor, etc.
What I can say, is the "heaviest" part of the armor is actually the chainmail by far.

>A complete suit of plate armour made from well-tempered steel would weigh around 15–25 kg. The wearer remained highly agile and could jump, run and otherwise move freely as the weight of the armour was spread evenly throughout the body. The armour was articulated and covered a man's entire body completely from neck to toe.
>A short-sleeved shirt of chainmail typically weighs around 7 kg. A long-sleeved shirt reaching to the mid-tights or further is called a hauberk. Hauberks like that can weigh 10 kg. A hauberk with coif attached weighs 1.5 kg more whereas a separate coif brings about 2.5 kg to scale. An additional pair of mail mittens or gloves weighs 1 kg. The legs can be protected by a pair of chausses which adds another 4 kg. To cover the whole body this adds up to about 18 kg.

If the plate is fitted properly, the weight will distributed evenly across below the waist, and mostly on the hips for above the waist.
There are many different configurations and layering that different European nations used throughout a span of over 1000 years, so it's kind of hard to generalize.

>>20298
I cant believe I missed the hema thread wtf