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Technical suggestions or feedback should be posted for the time being in >>>/leftypol/30303

Updated: Dec.30 10:30PM UTC
This OP will (hopefully) remain updated with the latest information on voting. I won't be explaining too much about the process as it's currently only unofficially being used until a new constitution is written. The basics are that any staff member can create a [proposal]. Two other users approve this proposal for voting, this is not approval of the measure but of the clarity and purpose of the proposal. Once approved it can become a [vote]. Votes finish in 3 days or when a vote has majority approval/disapproval. There are also fast track votes, but we don't need to get into those. With that out of the way, here's the current view:

Ongoing Propositions:
* Proposal: Vote on whether we should use our public names in the mod meeting, if names should be up to moderator choice, or whether all mods should only be identified via numbers.

Votes:
* Vote: Extension of 3 days on board merger vote. – Vote ends Jan.3rd – 4 yay
* Vote: Have a conversation on switching staff rooms from matrix to another, self-hosted, FOSS software. Possible alternatives include, but not limited to: rocket.chat, session messenger, matterhorn, zulip, scuttlebutt, jabber. – 5 yay 2 abstain – Ends January 8th
* Vote: Merge /games/ and /anime/ into /hobby/ (while keeping a backup of the current threads of each for future use) Vote ends 31st Dec 10pm UTC – 6 yay 3 nay

Recently Completed:
* Get rid when possible of the side bar and the HTML frames in the home page. – PASSED 6 yay
* Vote: delete hidden boards from leftypol – PASSED 5 yay
* Make Dark Red the Default Theme for now. – PASSED 4 yay 3 nay
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Hello everyone, now that we've settled in here a bit more, it's time to address the burning questions of constitutional reform! Until now we have been playing it fast and loose, lets say, with the old Bunkerchan rules, but they are clearly no longer apropos.

The key issue we would like to discuss is the internal administrative structure. As of now, we have been attempting to use mostly horizontal democratic organisation (among mods), however this has had some notable lapses and issues, and some would like to use a more 'traditional' hierarchical structure with admins at the top, moderators in the middle, and janitors on the bottom, or just admins and moderators. The advantage of having admins with executive power is primarily to cut through deadlock, which has been a real problem since our migration. That said, perhaps there are other ways to deal with that.

Another proposal is the question of user democracy and more involvement of users without volunteer status in decisionmaking. This is a good idea in theory but in practice it is difficult to agree on how to move forward with it. Should users have direct voting power? If so, how will this be implemented and to what extent? Can the moderators override the users and if so in what circumstances? Should users be vetted (ie through Matrix) in order to ensure that the vote is not totally skewed by sockpuppets? If so doesn't that privilege people who use off-site communication unfairly? As you can see, it is a difficult subject, but interesting nonetheless.

One more issue is over who is and isn't allowed to post on leftypol, ideologically speaking. Mostly everyone can agree that this board should be for 'the left' but what does that mean exactly? Who is included and who is not in that definition? While I'm sure everyone will agree that 'orthodox leftism' should be allowed, there is ambiguity over what that means at the boundaries. Are anprims allowed? Post-colonialists? Anarcho-nihilists? Juche proponents, or Pol-potists? How about social democrats? And so on. To what extent are non-leftists allowed? Do they have the same 'rights' as leftist posters or are they treated harsher?

I have attached the most up to date version of the old constitution, which some of us think should be simply adapted to the new circumstances. On the other hand, some vols have proposed a new constitution altogether which I will attach below. There is also the option of throwing all of these out and woPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

YO why the adms are not adding new banners? the banner thread is getting new banners for some time now without any being added

What is happening? did we reach the maximum number of banners? if we have already reached the maximum number of banners it's time to expand it

Posting this in /meta/ as to not shit up the /leftypol/ catalog

There's been a huge drop in post quality after the split, and while I tried writing a few effortposts they mostly seemed to go nowhere. At least in the earlier days of /leftypol/ there was at a very least prolific production of funny memes despite sectarian shitflinging, but now, both new memes and effortposts are dwindling.

This "infrared" bullshit is the last straw, I create a thread about podcast suggestions and it was INSTANTLY shitted up by hazbros shilling their youtuber. Despite my efforts to debate in good faith they mostly just responded with the same sort of posturing bullshit that Vaush fans would do. I tried hiding the infrared post and just ignoring it but unfortunately those guys don't seem content to stay in their containment thread and spill out into literally everything. I have also requested the jannies to give the ability to at least hide single replies in threads (in tech feedback thread) but that doesn't seem to be on the menu either anytime soon.

I think I'm (unironically) going to reddit. The whole point of choosing leftypol over reddit was to escape the bullshit tone policing, but unfortunately we have gotten to the schizo saturation point where the weirdos outnumber the actual good people. Frankly, I'd rather deal with IDPOL and tone policing bullshit than whatever the fuck this has become. It would be one thing for a clique of autists to stan whatever eceleb there is (happens from time to time) but now you have literal jannies posting with their mod tags in threads supporting them and retweeting their shit from official accounts.

At least something like /r/communism has effortposts, blogs, and links to actually good resources from a ML perspective (and there are other sites/subreddits for other tendencies). I'd rather engage with thoughtful and edifying content thats slightly too identity centric than deal with this nonsense.

I don't want to debate or frankly even listen to debates. I'm tired. And old. My time is limited outside work and I don't have time to be watching some unhinged posturing sociopath stream for 6 hours, I would rather sleep or at least listen to/watch something funny, if not educational for 30 minutes to an hour.

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Or perhaps posting does, but I can't see the new posts.

Some polfag is spamming pics of dudes sucking dick with the typical retarded
>U will never be woman
Meme line
Can you end this retardation?
Thanks

The only understanding I have is that you are pro-censorship; you don't like what I said, but censorship is evil, and you know it, but you, like every fucking leftist tard is enjoying your fucking life while the right of us suffer. How do you come back from this? Fucking GOD, not Christ, just GOD, OK?


You take you fucking fake analysis and fuck off, you fucking kike.

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