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 No.3525[View All]

Hello comrades. ITT we talk about what we are doing to improve ourselves. I'll go first:

I am trying to quit smoking. This is probably my sixth attempt but I am going to try and take it more seriously this time.

I have been cutting down for the past few months and had gotten down to 3 cigarettes a day but when I tried to quit earlier this week I ended up buying a pack at the end of the first day and smoking the whole thing that night out of anxiety about quitting.

I am a drug addict in recovery and this leaves coffee and kratom as the two substances I can use. The kratom seems to help with cigarette cravings or at least incentivizes smoking because I feel sick when I smoke on it. I might try NRT too. I am going to try and get back into running too since that helped me get off heroin the first time.
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 No.9329

I wonder how OP is doing.

 No.9337

>>6485
self-help is bougie crap and as such has basically no leftist proponents except like, stirner i guess

 No.9343

>>9337
i'm a leftist proponent of self-help. it's just the practice of applying psychology to yourself without involvement from professional therapists, which is a very leftist concept. sure, it's vulnerable to grifters and rife with individualist propaganda as it is, but that's only because everything is shit under capitalism, plus it's been completely disregarded by the left and/or the left has been basically dead for decades.

if you could clean out the parts that don't belong there anyway, and do self-help socially, it could be a hugely effective form of mutual aid. it's basically the thing that people crave more than anything, the most direct response to alienation that is possible short of abolishing the commodity form, and by the very nature of the process creates social bonds and radicalizes people.

 No.9346

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>>9329
Not so great, not the worst, I'm playing a new videogame and being distracted. When I'm not thinking about my problems or trying to solve them, things aren't so bad.

 No.9350

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Strive to become the overman
read and lift weights
denounce comforts
don't destroy your dick 10 times a day
don't be a cringe nofap cultist either
clean your room
realize that 99% of other leftists are cringe soy bugmen, including this board and resent them and yourself.

 No.9351

>>9350
also becoming a christcuck helps, ignore the rituals and beliefs and dig deeper into the religions philosophical and moral meaning. It will help, all enlightenment ideas have their roots in christian humanism.

 No.9354

Why the fuck hasn't anyone denounced "self-help" as part of neoliberal ideology yet?

Fuck you OP

 No.9374

>>9354
self help is cringe, but being happy with medicority or worse is even more cringe and the left is full of it.

 No.9376

>>9354
Limpdick asceticism can genuinely help you maintain some semblance of discipline in an environment that constantly insists on you giving into your impulses and wasting your life away wageslaving and then consuming services. It's obviously not at all the magic pill to making you happy and complacent that shitty grifters make you believe it is, and self-help ideology is constantly used to basically shame people for not being rich, but i think the fair thing to do here is to just scavenge what can be useful to you instead of just decrying it. Self-hatred is just another spook after all

 No.9412

>>9354
because it's moronic to let libs keep everything they touch to themselves. they touch a lot of good things too.

>>9374
if you can't be happy with mediocrity, then you can't be happy. most people are thoroughly ordinary and there's nothing wrong with that.

 No.9435

>>9412
>most people are thoroughly ordinary and there's nothing wrong with that.

Cringe. This disgusting bourgeois complacency is everything wrong with the left. Even if you are average you should not be content with being so.

 No.9454

>>9435
Based. People should strive to do more than to just be average.

 No.9720

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>>9346
Did you give up?

 No.12689

>>3784
Speaking of Stalin bashing and practical opposition of it
https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2019/02/28/response-to-garry-maclachlan/

 No.12690

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>>9267
>The alt-right MEMES about… radlib effeminate soyboys (etc.) come from the most vocal MINORITY of the left
Well we can at least count on having reduced that effect a bit with the whole /pol/cel meme war we had last month, the meme is still making rounds on 4chan and has basically crushed most /pol/ spam about "muh soyboy left", at least on the internet. Now for real life.

 No.12699

Anyone here know if meditation is legit? what are good sources to start learning it?

 No.12701

>>12699
I mean to an extent it is legit in that it calms the mind and lets you organize your thoughts, see >>5141

 No.12703

>>12701
Are there maybe some more… scientific sources with which I could learn it?

 No.12704

>>12703

There’s plenty of studies done on beneficial effects of meditation. I highly recommend it, it helps bring the mind back focus and be clearer of all the background noise internet pollutes the head with.

Just stick to the zen/zazen meditations that focus on breathing and clearing the mind or focusing intensely on one topic, the other ones with third eye ones are all libshit idealist garbage.

Also in my experience the effects dont last longer than 2 days so have to stick with it

 No.12706

>>12704
whats the difference between zen and zazen?

 No.12708

>>12703
There isn't much science to it, you breath deeply and let your mind and body relax sometimes by focusing on only one sense of the body, or by trying to think of nothing or by trying to remember your day

 No.12720

>>12706

I think zazen is a branch that is heavy on sitting meditations and having no particular ends/goal objects. It’s more focused on reaching ‘enlightenment’ through the self rather than through some idealist rituals that other buddhist disciplines have.

 No.12775

>>4976
has anyone tried the impulse control thing?

 No.12788

>>12775
Yes. It helps… a lot

 No.12843

What's the line between self help and self delusion? I've read a lot of self help books now but they just wanna make you a cuck for capitalism or make you live in a fantasy land. What is leftist self help?

 No.12845

>>12843
See the following posts
>>5783 Communist OPSEC
>>6323 Basic plan to improve
>>3599 Actual basic self-awareness
>>5141 Meditation guides
>>4976 Rewiring the brain guides

 No.12847

>>3525
have quit 3 times for 3+months at a time, what's worked for me isn't tapering down (that just means you spend more time in the day wanting a cigarette) and instead going cold turkey and committing myself to hour long /nightwalks/ for 2 weeks. After that you won't feel any sort of cravings just the occasional urge no worse than a sweet tooth. I've also relapsed as many times after 3+ month quits, having even 1 cig has been a guaranteed relapse for me - I'll buy a pack 3-5 days after the initial smoke and return to my former smoking rate 1 week later.

Also if you haven't already, try not smoking when you are at work its a lot easier to not smoke at work than it is when you are at home doing nothing. You can also immediately go exercise after work with having a long enough break between your last smoke (16+ hours) that your lungs will be able to keep up with a strenuous cardio or lifting workout for an hour.

Best of luck, it massively sucks. Gonna quit later this week I think.

 No.19351

>>4933
You first

 No.20261

I havent done opioids or smoke cigarettes since i was in middle school but honestly lately it just seems so tempting especially the cigarettes maybe ill just buy lollipops, I used lollipops as a way to keep the habit steady but I fortunately had no problems with withdrawals.

just wanted to vent because some things i just cant talk about.

 No.20262

>>20261
>just vent
that's a-ok m8
>since i was in middle school
>since
You did drugs as an elementary school kid!??!?!

 No.20585

Did any of you improve your memory, what technique did you use?
Do you have any good resources (books, studies), prefably scientific.
I've searched online, but I got overwhelmed with books, videos, articles, etc. so I gave up

 No.20604

Just got a good job after several months of unemployment. I’m moving to a big city soon from parents house, going to start all these initiatives
>jiu jitsu
>lifting (kettlebell)
>weekly visits to shooting range
>going hard on dating apps
white vegan btw

 No.21311

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Ok guys, I recently saw this meme and I know it isn't supposed to be taken seriously, but it still made me think. How can I become a man or mature. Not a "man" bound to the norms of a capitalist society like suburban us-conservative propgaganda wants you to believe, but a sense of maturity that other people, man and woman alike are able to recognize. A "manchild" is something I truly believe "exists" for a lack of better wording.

I constantly succumb to my urges like procrastanating, watching porn, browsing the internet instead of studying, doing chores, working or just taking care of myself in general. I feel disgusted, but I am too weak to change in any meaningfull sense. I picked up reading again, which is atleast something positive.

So my question to those anons who have figured it out already, is: How to become a man?
A man like Lenin or Che was. Somebody who had his life in order and wasn't swayed by the impulses of those around them or their own impulses. I am want this for myself. I am tired of my parents telling me to grow up. I am tired of the women I was dating(casual dating that is) telling me I am not mature enough for them to consider a long-lasting relationship. So, help is badly needed here.

 No.21316

>>21311
Honestly the most cohesive answer to your query is the following poem, I personally have gone through much of it and it has helped me:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

 No.21317

>>21311
Have you ever had a coming of age experience?
Like hiking through the woods for 2 weeks or something?
That sort of experience helped me to feel more like an adult.
Also are you susceptible to psychosis? If not I would recommend psychedelics.
Anyways those aree just two "things" you could. Other anons in this thread have also pointed out broader dynamics for living a more mature life.

 No.21322

>>21316
Thanks. This an unorthodox answer, but I really appreciate it. I have a bit of trouble deciphiring some phrases like:
>If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
>If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
>If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster and treat those two impostors just the same

>>21317
>Also are you susceptible to psychosis?
Idk. I guess not, because I never really had anything close to it. I am kinda afraid of taking psychedelics though, apart from weed ofcourse

 No.21323

>>21322
I mean its pretty straightforward. Being able to have dreams and hope, and yet not forget and give up on things unrelated or sacrifice everything to it.
Being able to think (deeply) about things and questioning them, without ending up mental wanking and thinking for its own sake.
triumph and disaster are more about perception and social cred than the real events that caused them and their consequences. In both case stay cool, profit from the good and try to reduce the bad, think materially, rationally and dont fall prey to your emotions.

its basically about maturity and dominating your instincts and bad mental habits/pitfalls

 No.21329

>>21311
Maturity == conforming to the status quo and to the expectations of others

 No.21330

>self-improvement thread
>filled with insecure reactionaries whining about loss of "masculinity" and idpol
Every. Fucking. Time. The images of old busts really got me hollerin.

 No.21335

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>>4922
>>4920
>>>9867
Part 1 got deleted during the split, so I'm reposting it for posterity
Nice trash
>The obsession
How is there an obsession? Its brought up
A) When some lib starts shilling their "there are 500 different genders" and other rubbish
B) When /pol/ starts baiting with liberal talking points
C) when discussing some of SEVERAL issues of the left in America and Europe.
All of these instances are pretty rare and the conversations only tended to spiral out of control in the idpol containment threads which was essentially a troll and sjw piranha tank that the mods used to prevent talk on these irrellevant subjects
>the average hardened internet ML wasn't a cringing little boy
>defending every spec of shit on the NKVD's boots
<Muh whitey tankies
<Muh NKVD!
See pic 1 and GTFO liberal. Defending the USSR is done on the principle of defending the primary example of socialism in action. This does not exclude self-crit
>argue about whether this or that tiny sectarian cult movement was revisionist or based
<implying that only MLs do this and that it isn't a pointless wankfest
>work with people that didn't look exactly like them
<what was the Red army, what was Vietnam/China/Korea/Burkina Faso
<If you don't actively state love for black people and gays you're a racist homophobe!
<If you think that pandering to minorities, fetishists & liberals is wrong and enables dumb shit you're not doing anything IRL
See pic 1 again. People who do actual shit IRL don't care about these things at all, and its fairly obvious that this is the majority opinion of /leftypol/ majority. The only complaint regards liberals dominating public left-view and shilling idpol 24/7 to where even the most tolerant of socialists are rolling their eyes. Not only is it token "bailing capitalism" but also used to shut-down the urge to revolt by appeasement and distraction.
>its a kind of ignorance born of inexperience
<if you're not a woman or gay or black or a punk then you don't understand, wah!!!
Pathetic. If people of different races, sexes and cultures cannot empathize with one another then there is no left unity to be had. Human experiences are never 100% the same and yet somehow that has never stopped empathy before.
>red elitism
<Muh commissars!
How delusional are you? Majority rule is a principle part of communism. Pandering to a minority is counter-revolutionary. You're replacing capital with race or gender, which makes it no-longer about communism
>poor, stupid proles won't follow us
revolutionaries if we have people that look a bit different
See pic 2 and stop making shit up. You're obviously referencing the shit with "muh furries are workers" and the shite about "muh fat is healthy" which are so esoteric and retarded that its not even worth serious consideration past a simple understanding: There is no point pandering to a minority fetish subculture with divisive radical left politics when its supposed to be addressed towards the working class as a whole, irrelevant to what your legal bedroom antics are. Keep your personal-private life out of politics because rallies, protests and other activities are not places to "have fun".
>Marx forbid!
People reference Marx because he and Engels and Lenin and even the highly anti-Soviet Orwell considered such bullshit to be counter-productive. That's why /leftypol/ has always been derisive of 'muh free love' hippy movements since their biggest success was being annoying to the US government during Vietnam.
>unusual ways of living
Differences in culture is not the same as the bohemian "why can't I parade my gimps in public during the gay parade?!" and "what's wrong with young children being drag-queens!?" and "Why can't we lie about fat being beautiful and healthy?!"
If you defend any of this you're part of the problem.
>betrodden, unenlightened workers couldn't possibly have their own opinions
Their opinions lack class consciousness and reek of a complete lack of genuinely caring. Everyone should not have the right to an opinion, but the right to an informed opinion, because parroting Fox and CNN gets you nowhere. The majority of the US lower class are lumpenproles. Hormone-loaded 'bread' and constant low-brow 'circus' give them the endorphins needed to keep them docile, and the long history of defending "the right" to sexual fetishes and other tertiary bullshit over the right to live as decent human beings. They care more for their hedonistic short-term pleasures than the long-term good for themselves and others, because the former is easier to give in to.
>if its OK or not to be not normal
Stop trying to take this out of context as if its "le evul cis white male" persecuting 'le X-men' for no reason.
>actually managed to do some IRL work with people that didn't look exactly like them they would realise how meaningless those kinds of words
You're contradicting yourself. Moreover the argument of those "MLs" has always been that idpol and the FOCUS on pandering to it, ENCOURAGES segregational views. Being a furry should be irrelevant in a movement, because its not part of your identity as a prole, it is a private fetish. If your sexuality is a major part of your identity to the point where you can't talk about workers rights without bringing up something specific for your minority before the revolution, then you have no personality… something capitalism encourages. This is something Lenin stated and even more liberal leftists have noted as well. People turn their minor sexual activities into major identity issues because the alienation and shallowness of capitalist life leaves people hollow and looking for something to fill this gap.

 No.21336

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>>21330
>Hurr muh reactionaries!
>muh idpol
Take your projecting butthurt elsewhere, liberal. Nobody posted "old busts".

 No.21340

>>21336
>face the wall xd
Well that was unexpected.

 No.21361

>>21329
Soooo…maturity is fake and/or undesirbale?

 No.21382

today I've exercised for the first time in forever, doing day 1 of the starter workout from You Are Your Own Gym by Mark Lauren:
>pushups with hands on an incline (I ignored that last part)
>let-me-ins (starting sitting on the floor with bent knees, pull your chest up to a door handle or bar you're holding with an overhand grip while keeping your knees bent and your feet on the floor)
>seated dips with feet on the floor (again, I ignored that part and did the more difficult variant with legs straight and only my heels touching the floor)
>bodyweight rows with bent knees and feet on the floor
holy shit, have I gotten weak, towards the end I couldn't do even one row with proper technique
though that might be cause of shitty bar positioning or the fact that there's a threshold under the doorway where I put my bar, next week I'll try to put my feet on top of something so my shoulders are effectively not on an incline

 No.21384

>>21361
No, they mean that maturity is not necessarily as conforming to societal expectations.

>>21382
Good job m8, more of a /fit/ topic (there's a thread) but good to see someone start to exercise again!

 No.21399

>>21384
>No, they mean that maturity is not necessarily as conforming to societal expectations
Hm ok. But how does this line of thought play out in the practical? Maybe you can help me, by idk explaining it to me? Idk, I guess I always connected an inners sense of maturity to being atleast somewhat perceived as mature by societal expectations.

 No.21404

>>21399
>mature by societal expectations.
RATIONAL Societal Expectations.
To act mature is primarily to be responsible; understand and think over your actions, their consequences and necessity. You shouldn't permit yourself to let emotions cloud your train of thought and should b able to comprehend concepts that a child or teen is not going to actually understand. No tantrums or similarly IMmature behavior. This comes from discipline. It doesn't mean you need to be an uptight bastard, just a reliable person capable of making decisions and keeping your word.

 No.21637

I'm learning to sing and play guitar. I want to go busking, but get better than the average busker warbling out "Wonderwall'. Even the fucking original was crap so how is a busked version going to be any good
I'm doing a few other things which are good in themselves but will to help with it, like a side benefit.
Yoga. You need to be relaxed when singing. No pain no gain doesn't apply here.
Reading books on the things I'm interested in. I'd be doing that anyway, but it's an added benefit if I can get ideas for lyrics.

Anyway, if getting better than average is the aim, how is it possible for the average guy?
Well it's kind of like you need both of what ozy here calls regular uncertainty and Knightian uncertainty.
https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/knightian-uncertainty
Or rather, you need to pull some Knightian uncertainty into the regular uncertainty.

Regular uncertainty is like the entropy of dice. Vid related. The sum of multiple dice rolls are going to end up in the middle range, mostly. "Keep doing the same things and you'll get the same results." So you need to explore outside of what you know a bit. For example, I saw a vid on YouTube called Dramatic Vibrato by Madelyn Harvey, thought it sounds a bit musical theatre ish but I'll give it a shot. It improved my singing 500%.
But you need" regular uncertainty" too. You have off days in whatever you're trying to do, but you need to keep turning up, plugging away at it. If everything was edgy Knightian uncertainty nothing would be possible. You couldn't even get out of bed in the morning safely. Everything would be chaos.

 No.21923

>>3599
>>3619
>How is pic 1 cringe tho? Its true. If you don't self-reflect you may swiftly find yourself careening onto a whole different path,
Imagine being such a laughable failure that the preface of the first draft of Das Kapital blows your shitstain idealist pure ideology out of the water
"Karl Marx 1859
Preface to A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy"
>>In the social production of their existence, men inevitably enter into definite relations, which are independent of their will, namely relations of production appropriate to a given stage in the development of their material forces of production. The totality of these relations of production constitutes the economic structure of society, the real foundation, on which arises a legal and political superstructure and to which correspond definite forms of social consciousness. The mode of production of material life conditions the general process of social, political and intellectual life. It is not the consciousness of men that determines their existence, but their social existence that determines their consciousness.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1859/critique-pol-economy/preface.htm
Soulless radlib loser with no historical materialism whining about "soy" as they post idealist inspirational memes like every neoliberal instagram drone. This leftoid website is the most hilariously pretentious out of any I've seen. You should stop doing soy mindfulness and self help and KYS, now that would be a revolutionary materialist praxis!

 No.21933

>>3525
you can get opiate dependency from regular kratom use so keep that in mind


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