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Hello comrades. ITT we talk about what we are doing to improve ourselves. I'll go first:

I am trying to quit smoking. This is probably my sixth attempt but I am going to try and take it more seriously this time.

I have been cutting down for the past few months and had gotten down to 3 cigarettes a day but when I tried to quit earlier this week I ended up buying a pack at the end of the first day and smoking the whole thing that night out of anxiety about quitting.

I am a drug addict in recovery and this leaves coffee and kratom as the two substances I can use. The kratom seems to help with cigarette cravings or at least incentivizes smoking because I feel sick when I smoke on it. I might try NRT too. I am going to try and get back into running too since that helped me get off heroin the first time.
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What's the line between self help and self delusion? I've read a lot of self help books now but they just wanna make you a cuck for capitalism or make you live in a fantasy land. What is leftist self help?


See the following posts
>>5783 Communist OPSEC
>>6323 Basic plan to improve
>>3599 Actual basic self-awareness
>>5141 Meditation guides
>>4976 Rewiring the brain guides


have quit 3 times for 3+months at a time, what's worked for me isn't tapering down (that just means you spend more time in the day wanting a cigarette) and instead going cold turkey and committing myself to hour long /nightwalks/ for 2 weeks. After that you won't feel any sort of cravings just the occasional urge no worse than a sweet tooth. I've also relapsed as many times after 3+ month quits, having even 1 cig has been a guaranteed relapse for me - I'll buy a pack 3-5 days after the initial smoke and return to my former smoking rate 1 week later.

Also if you haven't already, try not smoking when you are at work its a lot easier to not smoke at work than it is when you are at home doing nothing. You can also immediately go exercise after work with having a long enough break between your last smoke (16+ hours) that your lungs will be able to keep up with a strenuous cardio or lifting workout for an hour.

Best of luck, it massively sucks. Gonna quit later this week I think.


You first


I havent done opioids or smoke cigarettes since i was in middle school but honestly lately it just seems so tempting especially the cigarettes maybe ill just buy lollipops, I used lollipops as a way to keep the habit steady but I fortunately had no problems with withdrawals.

just wanted to vent because some things i just cant talk about.


>just vent
that's a-ok m8
>since i was in middle school
You did drugs as an elementary school kid!??!?!


Did any of you improve your memory, what technique did you use?
Do you have any good resources (books, studies), prefably scientific.
I've searched online, but I got overwhelmed with books, videos, articles, etc. so I gave up


Just got a good job after several months of unemployment. I’m moving to a big city soon from parents house, going to start all these initiatives
>jiu jitsu
>lifting (kettlebell)
>weekly visits to shooting range
>going hard on dating apps
white vegan btw


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Ok guys, I recently saw this meme and I know it isn't supposed to be taken seriously, but it still made me think. How can I become a man or mature. Not a "man" bound to the norms of a capitalist society like suburban us-conservative propgaganda wants you to believe, but a sense of maturity that other people, man and woman alike are able to recognize. A "manchild" is something I truly believe "exists" for a lack of better wording.

I constantly succumb to my urges like procrastanating, watching porn, browsing the internet instead of studying, doing chores, working or just taking care of myself in general. I feel disgusted, but I am too weak to change in any meaningfull sense. I picked up reading again, which is atleast something positive.

So my question to those anons who have figured it out already, is: How to become a man?
A man like Lenin or Che was. Somebody who had his life in order and wasn't swayed by the impulses of those around them or their own impulses. I am want this for myself. I am tired of my parents telling me to grow up. I am tired of the women I was dating(casual dating that is) telling me I am not mature enough for them to consider a long-lasting relationship. So, help is badly needed here.


Honestly the most cohesive answer to your query is the following poem, I personally have gone through much of it and it has helped me:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!


Have you ever had a coming of age experience?
Like hiking through the woods for 2 weeks or something?
That sort of experience helped me to feel more like an adult.
Also are you susceptible to psychosis? If not I would recommend psychedelics.
Anyways those aree just two "things" you could. Other anons in this thread have also pointed out broader dynamics for living a more mature life.


Thanks. This an unorthodox answer, but I really appreciate it. I have a bit of trouble deciphiring some phrases like:
>If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
>If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
>If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster and treat those two impostors just the same

>Also are you susceptible to psychosis?
Idk. I guess not, because I never really had anything close to it. I am kinda afraid of taking psychedelics though, apart from weed ofcourse


I mean its pretty straightforward. Being able to have dreams and hope, and yet not forget and give up on things unrelated or sacrifice everything to it.
Being able to think (deeply) about things and questioning them, without ending up mental wanking and thinking for its own sake.
triumph and disaster are more about perception and social cred than the real events that caused them and their consequences. In both case stay cool, profit from the good and try to reduce the bad, think materially, rationally and dont fall prey to your emotions.

its basically about maturity and dominating your instincts and bad mental habits/pitfalls


Maturity == conforming to the status quo and to the expectations of others


>self-improvement thread
>filled with insecure reactionaries whining about loss of "masculinity" and idpol
Every. Fucking. Time. The images of old busts really got me hollerin.


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Part 1 got deleted during the split, so I'm reposting it for posterity
Nice trash
>The obsession
How is there an obsession? Its brought up
A) When some lib starts shilling their "there are 500 different genders" and other rubbish
B) When /pol/ starts baiting with liberal talking points
C) when discussing some of SEVERAL issues of the left in America and Europe.
All of these instances are pretty rare and the conversations only tended to spiral out of control in the idpol containment threads which was essentially a troll and sjw piranha tank that the mods used to prevent talk on these irrellevant subjects
>the average hardened internet ML wasn't a cringing little boy
>defending every spec of shit on the NKVD's boots
<Muh whitey tankies
<Muh NKVD!
See pic 1 and GTFO liberal. Defending the USSR is done on the principle of defending the primary example of socialism in action. This does not exclude self-crit
>argue about whether this or that tiny sectarian cult movement was revisionist or based
<implying that only MLs do this and that it isn't a pointless wankfest
>work with people that didn't look exactly like them
<what was the Red army, what was Vietnam/China/Korea/Burkina Faso
<If you don't actively state love for black people and gays you're a racist homophobe!
<If you think that pandering to minorities, fetishists & liberals is wrong and enables dumb shit you're not doing anything IRL
See pic 1 again. People who do actual shit IRL don't care about these things at all, and its fairly obvious that this is the majority opinion of /leftypol/ majority. The only complaint regards liberals dominating public left-view and shilling idpol 24/7 to where even the most tolerant of socialists are rolling their eyes. Not only is it token "bailing capitalism" but also used to shut-down the urge to revolt by appeasement and distraction.
>its a kind of ignorance born of inexperience
<if you're not a woman or gay or black or a punk then you don't understand, wah!!!
Pathetic. If people of different races, sexes and cultures cannot empathize with one another then there is no left unity to be had. Human experiences are never 100% the same and yet somehow that has never stopped empathy before.
>red elitism
<Muh commissars!
How delusional are you? Majority rule is a principle part of communism. Pandering to a minority is counter-revolutionary. You're replacing capital with race or gender, which makes it no-longer about communism
>poor, stupid proles won't follow us
revolutionaries if we have people that look a bit different
See pic 2 and stop making shit up. You're obviously referencing the shit with "muh furries are workers" and the shite about "muh fat is healthy" which are so esoteric and retarded that its not even worth serious consideration past a simple understanding: There is no point pandering to a minority fetish subculture with divisive radical left politics when its supposed to be addressed towards the working class as a whole, irrelevant to what your legal bedroom antics are. Keep your personal-private life out of politics because rallies, protests and other activities are not places to "have fun".
>Marx forbid!
People reference Marx because he and Engels and Lenin and even the highly anti-Soviet Orwell considered such bullshit to be counter-productive. That's why /leftypol/ has always been derisive of 'muh free love' hippy movements since their biggest success was being annoying to the US government during Vietnam.
>unusual ways of living
Differences in culture is not the same as the bohemian "why can't I parade my gimps in public during the gay parade?!" and "what's wrong with young children being drag-queens!?" and "Why can't we lie about fat being beautiful and healthy?!"
If you defend any of this you're part of the problem.
>betrodden, unenlightened workers couldn't possibly have their own opinions
Their opinions lack class consciousness and reek of a complete lack of genuinely caring. Everyone should not have the right to an opinion, but the right to an informed opinion, because parroting Fox and CNN gets you nowhere. The majority of the US lower class are lumpenproles. Hormone-loaded 'bread' and constant low-brow 'circus' give them the endorphins needed to keep them docile, and the long history of defending "the right" to sexual fetishes and other tertiary bullshit over the right to live as decent human beings. They care more for their hedonistic short-term pleasures than the long-term good for themselves and others, because the former is easier to give in to.
>if its OK or not to be not normal
Stop trying to take this out of context as if its "le evul cis white male" persecuting 'le X-men' for no reason.
>actually managed to do some IRL work with people that didn't look exactly like them they would realise how meaningless those kinds of words
You're contradicting yourself. Moreover the argument of those "MLs" has always been that idpol and the FOCUS on pandering to it, ENCOURAGES segregational views. Being a furry should be irrelevant in a movement, because its not part of your identity as a prole, it is a private fetish. If your sexuality is a major part of your identity to the point where you can't talk about workers rights without bringing up something specific for your minority before the revolution, then you have no personality… something capitalism encourages. This is something Lenin stated and even more liberal leftists have noted as well. People turn their minor sexual activities into major identity issues because the alienation and shallowness of capitalist life leaves people hollow and looking for something to fill this gap.


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>Hurr muh reactionaries!
>muh idpol
Take your projecting butthurt elsewhere, liberal. Nobody posted "old busts".


>face the wall xd
Well that was unexpected.


Soooo…maturity is fake and/or undesirbale?


today I've exercised for the first time in forever, doing day 1 of the starter workout from You Are Your Own Gym by Mark Lauren:
>pushups with hands on an incline (I ignored that last part)
>let-me-ins (starting sitting on the floor with bent knees, pull your chest up to a door handle or bar you're holding with an overhand grip while keeping your knees bent and your feet on the floor)
>seated dips with feet on the floor (again, I ignored that part and did the more difficult variant with legs straight and only my heels touching the floor)
>bodyweight rows with bent knees and feet on the floor
holy shit, have I gotten weak, towards the end I couldn't do even one row with proper technique
though that might be cause of shitty bar positioning or the fact that there's a threshold under the doorway where I put my bar, next week I'll try to put my feet on top of something so my shoulders are effectively not on an incline


No, they mean that maturity is not necessarily as conforming to societal expectations.

Good job m8, more of a /fit/ topic (there's a thread) but good to see someone start to exercise again!


>No, they mean that maturity is not necessarily as conforming to societal expectations
Hm ok. But how does this line of thought play out in the practical? Maybe you can help me, by idk explaining it to me? Idk, I guess I always connected an inners sense of maturity to being atleast somewhat perceived as mature by societal expectations.


>mature by societal expectations.
RATIONAL Societal Expectations.
To act mature is primarily to be responsible; understand and think over your actions, their consequences and necessity. You shouldn't permit yourself to let emotions cloud your train of thought and should b able to comprehend concepts that a child or teen is not going to actually understand. No tantrums or similarly IMmature behavior. This comes from discipline. It doesn't mean you need to be an uptight bastard, just a reliable person capable of making decisions and keeping your word.


I'm learning to sing and play guitar. I want to go busking, but get better than the average busker warbling out "Wonderwall'. Even the fucking original was crap so how is a busked version going to be any good
I'm doing a few other things which are good in themselves but will to help with it, like a side benefit.
Yoga. You need to be relaxed when singing. No pain no gain doesn't apply here.
Reading books on the things I'm interested in. I'd be doing that anyway, but it's an added benefit if I can get ideas for lyrics.

Anyway, if getting better than average is the aim, how is it possible for the average guy?
Well it's kind of like you need both of what ozy here calls regular uncertainty and Knightian uncertainty.
Or rather, you need to pull some Knightian uncertainty into the regular uncertainty.

Regular uncertainty is like the entropy of dice. Vid related. The sum of multiple dice rolls are going to end up in the middle range, mostly. "Keep doing the same things and you'll get the same results." So you need to explore outside of what you know a bit. For example, I saw a vid on YouTube called Dramatic Vibrato by Madelyn Harvey, thought it sounds a bit musical theatre ish but I'll give it a shot. It improved my singing 500%.
But you need" regular uncertainty" too. You have off days in whatever you're trying to do, but you need to keep turning up, plugging away at it. If everything was edgy Knightian uncertainty nothing would be possible. You couldn't even get out of bed in the morning safely. Everything would be chaos.


>How is pic 1 cringe tho? Its true. If you don't self-reflect you may swiftly find yourself careening onto a whole different path,
Imagine being such a laughable failure that the preface of the first draft of Das Kapital blows your shitstain idealist pure ideology out of the water
"Karl Marx 1859
Preface to A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy"
>>In the social production of their existence, men inevitably enter into definite relations, which are independent of their will, namely relations of production appropriate to a given stage in the development of their material forces of production. The totality of these relations of production constitutes the economic structure of society, the real foundation, on which arises a legal and political superstructure and to which correspond definite forms of social consciousness. The mode of production of material life conditions the general process of social, political and intellectual life. It is not the consciousness of men that determines their existence, but their social existence that determines their consciousness.
Soulless radlib loser with no historical materialism whining about "soy" as they post idealist inspirational memes like every neoliberal instagram drone. This leftoid website is the most hilariously pretentious out of any I've seen. You should stop doing soy mindfulness and self help and KYS, now that would be a revolutionary materialist praxis!


you can get opiate dependency from regular kratom use so keep that in mind


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I been improving the last couple of years but I can't get off my mind that I wasted so many years of my life and that I'm going to be so old when I get where I want to be.
How do i deal with this?


You had to pass through where you were to get where you are now. You can't change the past, so you need to accept it, which might involve processing being sad that things turned out in a way that was bad. We all play the hand we're dealt, and there's no shame in having a slow or late start.


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Imagine being such a laughable, projecting failure that you
A) Use Argument by Authority of a Theoretical Text analyzing 19th Century Capitalism and its impacts on Society, and attempted to make a prediction of the future of Western Society using materialist analysis in regards to Western Capitalist Social Structures (and not being fully correct as the course of History demonstrates, in regard to Revolutionary action and socialist Revolution in Russia that Marx thought to be highly unlikely at best).
B) Using an excerpt ignoring the full context of the passage and that out of context this part of Das Kapital essentially implies that the Proletariat cannot escape or progress and so Capitalism remains self-perpetuating. Despite later passages of the same Theoretical text specifically stating that Class-Consciousness can and will arise, again demonstrated by history and the many grass-roots revolutions in countries that did not reach industrial capitalist development. Moreover the quote itself admits that change can be made within the system, but it is limited by the issues endemic to the system, and it is later stated that hitting said limitations is part of the driving force in the demise of Capitalism and the Class System.
C) Having no argument of your own and just spamming a response to justify your hedonistic doomerism

>Soulless radlib loser

And yet you're the one assblasted over a post about self-improvement because "Nooooo, let me regurgitate quotes I don't understand out of context!" and "N-noooo don't call out my destructive decadent behaviours!"
>no historical materialism
And yet you are the one that demonstrates a complete lack of comprehension of history, nor understanding of actual theory of communism as can be applied to real life. Marx's statement that society limits the consciousness of people in said society is not the same as saying "do nothing there is no point because 'society' limits you!" If that had been the case Das Kapital and revolutions could never occur to begin with.
Nobody complained about Soy at all you speedreading ignoramus, the post replied stated specifically that the IMAGE of "soyboys" presented by the Alt-Right is detrimental to the image of communism in the public eye and gives confirmation to the idea that communists are just entitled brats, though sadly your pitiful post seems to prove the point.
Ah yes, so mature, so MANLY - using a pitiful acronym for an edgy phrase used by teenagers to bully kids ten years ago, boo hoo.
>post idealist inspirational memes like every neoliberal instagram drone
<Everything I don't like is idealist, and Neoliberal and fascist and nazi and hitler and Muh soshul media boogieman too!
Good lord you negative Nancy, get off your high horse before you break your neck.


Life is a journey, aging and the passing of time is largely irrelevant to simply living your life.


The fact that you're working on yourself enough that you have an idea of how old you will be when you get to where you want to be means you're doing more for your life than 99% of people. Keep at it, anon. I'm sure you're doing great.


Yeah. Get his ass anon 💪


And more importantly good advice. There will always be some toxic fool here trying to nip at a person's heels and bring their energy and enthusiasm down to his level. Ignore him and pursue progress. As communists and leftists we have a critical role to play in society by moving towards a better world. Our work is too important to sit down and circlejerk in ennui. Proletarians of the world unite! We have a world to win!


It's not that simple, I just feel this clock ticking and that all good things in life already passed by.


need some vegetarian/vegan food recommendations that will let me get recommended nutrients. not exactly vegan, as ill eat meat when i can as a treat, but because it's cheaper to make vegetable dishes. i like mushrooms.


Sounds like you're depressed.


Get on the road to somewhere or something and you will feel less like this I suspect


Breaking up with my gf really set me back, specifically because I felt moving and living with her will solve these concerns.
I have no means tot ravel right now


>I have no means tot ravel right now
Not literallly speaking. I mean like have some kind of goal/goals you are working towards


Someone else is never gonna fix the problems in your life. That's something you have to fix solo.


I'm trying to read more.
It's hard to get myself focused on a book for too long nowadays, but I've managed to read 3/4 of the first book of Dune in 2 months.


>I just feel this clock ticking and that all good things in life already passed by.
That's called depression. >>4965
You have to push past it. Most of us have been there, done that, and moved past it through grim determination. It isn't about being some uber-special dude, just try to be the best you can every day; you fuck up? Try again tomorrow, your efforts already make you worth acknowledging.


That's more a cooking thread thing >>38


>Someone else is never gonna fix the problems in your life
Just to clarify the other anon; YOU make the decision about your life, your environment and other issues can set you back, but you can still do something to self-improve, and while you must firstly rely on yourself, relying on the help of good people as you are going forward is also ok.


>It's hard to get myself focused on a book for too long nowadays, but I've managed to read 3/4 of the first book of Dune in 2 months.
Good job m8! you can do it, after some time it'll take you no effort at all.



Thanks, man. I finished it yesterday, finally.
Moving onto reading some theory and finishing What is to Be Done, but that'll be much harder. Is there a beginner reading list for leftist theory around?


Yeah, /edu/ has some reading lists. I heavily suggest Das Kapital by Marx, and Lenin's State and Revolution.


Don't be Self-Hating is a good self-improvement for many people


Something I think could help and I've noticed in my own life is laziness in small things, like changing your pants from comfortable house pants to more utilitarian jeans if you go outside or making sure you're cleaned up before going out into public. It's not about "muh appearance to others" though that is a secondary bonus, but about your personal attitude to yourself. If you indulge in minor laziness often you become more indolent in other things, less motivated and uncaring and more inclined to fall into being a NEET. As the saying goes, the power of little things is that there are many of them.


This a technique based on those Internet quizes to tell you what psyche disorders you may be prone to. The idea is to watch out for and recognize the manifestations, so you're not as much in their grip. So you get a bit of distance from them.
Doc. Hyatt was around a few years ago. Many of the people into his stuff have got Black Cat Syndrome. If you've got a mental health quirk, they're psychos. If you're into crystals, they've caught a demon in one. If you've got a black cat at home, they've got one too. But it's blacker.
Anyway, that aside, it does work. He basically ripped it off from reichian therapy, old school psychology texts, and other places.doc hyatt had a misanthropic world view so anons might like it if you find things like mindfulness a bit fluffy.


<a de-victimisation technique

<the idea is to bring out what is in your unconscious as quickly as possible
<one of the things you're going to learn from this exercise is how to use the superego, that is, the interjected, that is taking in like an amoeba the values and consciousness of this society and of your parents… you know when the superego's talking anytime you feel shame, embarrassment or you hearbthe word should in your mind

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