/labor/ - Labor

eternal reminder that even marx and engels were already dealing with college student pseuds in the 19th century

>That our workers are capable of it is borne out by their many producer and consumer cooperatives which, whenever they're not deliberately ruined by the police, are equally well and far more honestly run than the bourgeois stock companies. I cannot see how you can speak of the ignorance of the masses in Germany after the brilliant evidence of political maturity shown by the workers in their victorious struggle against the Anti-Socialist Law. The patronizing and errant lecturing of our so-called intellectuals seems to me a far greater impediment. We are still in need of technicians, agronomists, engineers, chemists, architects, etc., it is true, but if the worst comes to the worst we can always buy them just as well as the capitalists buy them, and if a severe example is made of a few of the traders among them — for traders there are sure to be — they will find it to their own advantage to deal fairly with us. But apart from the specialists, among whom I also include schoolteachers, we can get along perfectly well without the other “intellectuals.” The present influx of literati and students into the party, for example, may be quite damaging if these gentlemen are not properly kept in check.

>The biggest obstacles are the small peasants and the importunate super-clever intellectuals who always think they know everything so much the better, the less they understand it.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1890/letters/90_08_21.htm

>why is [field] so intellectually barren, it's just learning what tools are and to use them.
If you can't figure out how to apply the tools you're given to the canvas, that's not your colleages being vapid, that's you failing to speak with your professors about this issue.

>>1342
Any reasonably intelligent person can apply anything to anything. That doesnt preclude the fact that STEM isnt teaching anything worthy of being applied in the first place. Tell me how intellectually rich a binary tree is, or a stupid depth first search algorithm? Or the concept of logarithms?

These are facile concepts with no real application to society or communism. They don't enrich an individual, theyre intended to make the bourgeois and capitalists more profits.

>>1343
>Any reasonably intelligent person can apply anything to anything.
Precisely, so an intellectually enriching environment is one that introduces you to more things to tinker with.
>That doesnt preclude the fact that STEM isnt teaching anything worthy of being applied in the first place.
If you feel that the entirety of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics isn't profound enough for you then get into philosophy or something idk.
>Tell me how intellectually rich a binary tree is, or a stupid depth first search algorithm?
The point is it's use. You intellectually enrich it through novel application, not the other way around.
I think the reason programming classes drill those is they're a sorta level 2 Hello World: you figure out how to implement them in code, then you'll know how to describe novel things and implement them in code.
>Or the concept of logarithms?
Get into trigonometry and they'll show you neat ways it's been used.
>These are facile concepts with no real application
Again, you're going to tools class then struggle to apply them to canvas.

You're in the art school conundrum where they didn't teach you what to paint, only how and with what, and now you only know how and with what, but are drawing nothing but blanks.

>>1340
>Im doing a masters in STEM and can't believe how intellectually barren math and this field is. There is no critical thinking involved
you aint doing it right then
>Humanities at least teaches some theory and critical thinking
low-level bait
>STEM is just complete trash meant for brainlets
this betrays your nazi mind which thinks that education is meant to give one a sense of superiority over the plebs
>I havent encountered a single intellectually deep thought in STEM once
you aint doing it right burgerboy

>>1344
>then get into philosophy or something idk
that's the issue with philosophy. It is the pretence of 'deep thought' just for the sake of 'deep thought'. If you wanna nail something, and you just grab a hammer and drive the nail in the wood, the philosopher loses his shit. That was too simple, you need to engage in pseudo-dEeP tHoUgHt for centuries about the essence of 'nailness' and its relation to 'hammerness' and just as maybe you reach an answer, you gotta go even more dEeP tHoUgHt and dEcOnStRuCt the nOrMaTivE kkkoncepts of 'nailness' and 'hammerness'

>>1340
computing has always gone hand in glove with the secret state and the military complex

>>1343
>my shitass compsci class is representative of every single field within all of Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics
yawn

>>1340
I actually hate STEM because it's too hard and I think the Humanities are easier. Is there something wrong with me? Am I a brainlet?

>>1370
>hate STEM because it's too hard and I think the Humanities are easier.
which field of STEM and which field of humanities?

>>1340
>How
Capitalism. The rote memorization makes good worker. Thinking does not. school is not for learning its like a pedigree certificate. you still need familiar connections the cert is just proof. you are supposed to trade money and time for network not for education.
>>1342
>speak with your professors
They can't do anything about a system working as intended.
>>1344
>get into philosophy
philosophy is also infested with stem brainworms. its been replaced with analytics

>>1371
Math and English Language Arts respectively

>>1372
Professors at my college were quite happy to give practical examples, feel like the main thing holding them back from putting it in the course material was time constraints, which ya know, capitalism upstream.