Does anyone here help organize like labor unions and tenants unions and so on?
I was thinking that the nonprofit industry/social worker sector might be very useful to unionize. It could help mitigate some of the harms of the nonprofit activist industrial complex by giving more power to the workers instead of the CEOs. I'm sure lots of NEETs here interact with social programs. It takes five seconds to ask your support workers if they've looked into unionizing.
Anyhow would love to your thoughts on praxis in general
Something I've noticed about praxis in general is that the imperial core left fails to form a United Front (anti-sectarianism at least for some duration), engage in diversified tactics (don't put all your eggs in one basket), and venerates legality, civility, purity and martyrdom at the expense of armed struggle.
Look at the imperial core bourgeoisie. They are anti-sectarian. Basically the theocrats, libertarians, petty bourgeois, haute bourgeois, law enforcement, intelligence, legislators, judiciary, executive, etc. are all able to more or less form a united front to crush the left nonstop.
How do we change this state of affairs? I find a lot of the time that if you suggest diverisfied tactics and united front on here you get accused of being a kiddie, lumpen, degenerate, criminal, liberal, petty bourgeois etc.
People (bots?) are very desperate to affirm sectarian biases, squash a united front, dismiss diversified tactics as impure, etc.
Is it OVER for online communication? Are people like this in real life or is it only a fedbot thing?
>>669auxiliary to what?
you have an entire sea worth of water without a fish in it.
I am involved with trying to form a tenants union but the organizers are like, fundamentally opposed to vanguardism. "We are creating a space where people can determine for themselves how they want to organize" like tf. You need to tell these people what they want. I've also tried to get involved with my (right to work so no bargaining, just larp with wallet cards) union whose leadership is made up of actively rotting octagenarians for whom action is finger wagging at legislators every couple of months.
>>668The western left seems totally uninterested in united front organizing. I think it has to do with individualism and maybe the legacy of religious sectarianism. "Fuck you I'll start my own denomination." I really think america in particular needs a Left Intranational to bring orgs together at least on the shit they can agree on right now. Idk, shit is bleak. Idk how you're supposed to do this. Reading about the movements of the 20th century is so fucking depressing. We have nothing in comparison. No class consciousness, much fucking less any organization
>>669>>674>>662Have you guys ever considered that the reason why union organizing isn't a thing anymore is because people don't feel a need for it?
If this was 1925 or 1825, people would lend a sympathetic ear and even help you.
But now? "Labor organizing" seems more like people who don't want to do any serious labor that can contribute to society. And who can blame them?
A lot of people on this site look down on college students and blue collar worker.
>>674 (me)
Attended an "organizing" call yesterday, which was just people from various unions talking about their union and how Trump bad. They kept saying "we need to organize! We need to fight back!" There was one old trucker who looked like death and sounded like an insane person who actually laid out the dynamics of the situation and explicitly called it class war," and another old head who said we need a general strike, but on the whole the thing had nothing to do with how you actually organize or to what purpose you would even do so. Also the thing was very obviously structured like a webinar but the organizers instead just set up a standard zoom meeting so the speakers kept getting interrupted and confused by random people coughing and shit. I really think labor organizing is a total dead end in this country unless things get bad enough that wildcat strikes and illegalism become popular again. Capital has very effectively cut the labor channel such that it funnels people into this useless protest and growing the union for the sake of growing the union mindset. If you abide by the rules capital has put in place you are necessarily not challenging its power! Idk man I think the American people are doomed.
>>706And people accuse me of generalizing others on this site. This is what I'm talking about. The stramen rebuttals on here.
No, not everyone wants to be preached to about unionization. I'm being for real. Not everyone who disagrees with you is some fed or reactionary
And yes, trade unions aren't too hot right now especially since the amount of people working in trades has declined .
>>674Been organising 10+ years in trade unions, all rank and file stuff mostly. A soft push with positive results will get these people over the line. At least thats what I've found anyway, just take the lead on something small, get it done and then use it as a crutch to convince others that if they actually set goals that aren't just painting a canvas banner that they might achieve something.
Push from behind like a border collie instead of running at the front of the pack. There is always a wakeup call when organisers in any social or labor movement realise that synthesism doesn't get the goods. I've never seen tenants unions do well, but I would like to be wrong.