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do you think Che Guevara is the most beloved communist revolutionary or do you think he’s the most overrated and do you also think that he’s homophobic and racist.

Most beloved is lenin man

sexo

>>2177902
QTDDTOT

Pretty much all cis straight men of his time were homophobic but socialist homophobes were generally less harsh on their treatment of queer people when compared to contemporaries of capitalist countries. Cuba also recently approved by popular vote laws that advanced the rights of people in same-sex marriages, and Fidel regretted his homophobia before dying. Clearly the Cuban population is much more advanced on LGBT consciousness when compared to any other country on the American continent so they must be doing something right.

I think hes dead.

Cuba is shithole today, but he did fight to free Cuba from USA colonialism, nevertheless the country is a shithole.

>>2177894
Idk, in spanish speaking countries he's either loved or extremely vilified. Maybe in anglo countries its different as he fits the "noble savage" trope
>>2177922
Give me you shit hole, now

>>2177919
Forgot to mention but the dude that killed him is the most fed gusano stereotype you could think of. I think that's pretty funny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_Rodr%C3%ADguez_(soldier)

>>2177930
Shut it you dumb gringo, Cuba is a well know shithole, millions of people wants to get out of there, some people in my family got to know plenty of cubans that straight out says that Cuba is shit to live on it. Stop with your stupid ideological view and accept reality, sometimes things just doesn't go was planned or just fails, it happens.

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>>2177948
You're retarded to think those people are some rich or powerful dude that got fucked by the revolution, you're delusional totally delusional, 100% of those people that my family got to know are literally poor people before and after the revolution, they literally said that the revolution did bring some good things to Cuba but also failed miserably in some other aspect, overall the veredict of those people is that Cuba is a pretty bad place to live that why they fled from there. But ok, keep your delusional ideas based on nothing but some internet memes and not actual speaking with real cubans, dumb delusional gringo.

>>2177955
>100% of those people that my family got to know are literally poor people before and after the revolution
They were around before the Cuban revolution? Damn, they must be vampires or something.

>>2177955
Your world order is crumbling, no one cares for your opinion, you liking or not.

>>2177941
Mamame el huevo, no has hablado con un cubano en tu vida.Si de verdad cuba es una mierda porque USA es incapaz de hacer movilizar la gente contra el gobierno? de hacer una revolucion de color como hace en medio mundo? Cuando el cubano emigra lo hace al primer mundo para chupar del imperio y no a cualquier otro país de latinoamerica porque sabe que es la misma mierda solo que ellos no tienen un bloqueo comercial total por décadas y fracasan igual jajaja. Si cuba sigue en pie es precisamente gracias al comunismo. Imbecil

>>2177956
Not me, but older people from my family that are dead too now.

>>2177958
Cope, millions of Cubans still wants to get out of that shit hole, your "world order" doenst matter shit to the avarage cuban, dumb gringo.

>>2177964
>source: I heard it from a boomer in my family who heard it from another boomer I've never met in my life

>>2177968
Yeah, better source than some random meme on the internet, still prefer hearing from actual cubans speaking from their own experience than some dumb gringo that just see cuban from some fanatical ideological lens and not from the reality itself.

>>2177971
I've heard from Cubans that Cuba is actually alright despite some problems that plague most of Latin America so I guess I'll take their opinion in consideration rather than yours, fed.

>>2177973
Sure, dude, whatever, from the cubans I heard Cuba is a bad place to live, and the evidence of plenty of poor and desperate cubans trying to flee and risk their life to go the fucking USA point to something not being right there, whatever believe in what makes your more comfortable and doesn't shake your fanatical ideology.

>>2177977
Brother estás en un foro de fanáticos comunistas que se pajean con una catgirl anarquista, te irá mejor shilleando en otro lado

>>2177894
>homophobic
It's not really relevant IMO, they weren't fighting for a homophobic ~cause~ but I think Che would've probably just thought I'm a fruitcake if I couldn't tough it inna woods with a carbine. He'd probably be right about that.

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>only 2 lonely debate addicts "concern trolling" instead of hundreds of spammed garbage.

The effects of the cut of USAID.

>racist
>left Cuba to go fight against colonialism in Africa
>getting outraged a man born in the 20s was homophobic, and not even to a "kills gay people" degree like the liberals and Stalin did
That liberal bullshit of "you know that guy who did a lot of good things? Well, look at this, he called someone a fag in the 1940s" is the most blatant reactionary bullshit that they think is sneaky.

You can't even blame the degeneration of the Cuban social revolution on him because he recognized it and left. Che himself was just a war figure who tried to develop theory that could be applied to colonial & rural conditions. On Revolutionary Medicine laid out he did it for humane reasons and you can't accuse him for being a bourgeois opportunist because he rejected his token role in the Cuban State. Any attempts at a "gotcha" with Che is pretty clearly some liberal, directly defending the dictatorship he helped overthrow, trying to be sneaky. He wasn't a Trotsky figure who was directing armies to conduct terror against the peasants that he previously helped liberate.

>>2177894
Together with Fidel, one of the greatest men to ever live on this Earth. So he's actually more like underrated from all the retards thinking he is just some guy on a t-shirt.

>>2177932
>still alive
deserves the don ciccio treatment

>>2178628
>A gay or any LGBT person who claims to be a communist is like a chicken advertising for KFC
quoting Netanyahu in his justification of Palestinian genocide

>shitter dot com image with no sourcing of quotes

man people really just believe anything huh?

>>2178628
>Gorky (Stalin Right Hand man)
this is a joke, right? Gorky was a novelist

>>2178636
Gorky isn't in your shitter dot com image

>some leftoids can't cope that their favorite leftist was extremely homophobic and not some hecking wholesome LGBT+ support

I'm leftist but I always have a good kek when I see those delusional people, still remember one Palestine protest a guy was interviewed and he went on about whole Hamas was hecking wholesome LGBT and feminist supporting and it would usher a LGBT feminists utopia once they will Israel, those people live in literally another reality, lmao.

>>2178640
>I always have a good kek
well kekked my fellow magapede, i too laugh at the dumb libtards LOL
you sound annoying

>>2178643
>you can't laugh at liberals because some that do are also liberals…. heh…..

idpol proven once again to be a nothing burguer.
Daily reminder that cuba won, the US lost.

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>>2178628
>if i spam this enough i will be funny and cool or something

>>2178640
>>2178646
>Cuba won
>Literally millions had fled Cuba to go to the fucking USA to live

Delusional

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>>2178649
Communists of the past weren't any more homophobic than anyone else and you know it. You're being disingenuous and clearly no one's buying it.

Che was a racist Falangist who helped create a counterrevolutionary Khrushchevite bastion in the western hemisphere. Talking about him as if he was a communist is a bad joke

>>2178644
>the work from home brazilian who spent 5 months cheerleading for the liberal pedophile zionist billionaire in /usapol/ is back again with another shitty greentext reply
you are the biggest hazbin hotel of all

>>2178654
so trve fren. long live fvlgencio batista, the real commvnist of cvba

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>>2178640
>I'm leftist but

>>2178999
the more the meme, the more the nazi gusano cries.

>>2177955
>It's shit to live on an embargoed to hell third world island next to the most powerful country in history, that has been trying to undermine and wipe out your government and social order for like half a century

Wow shocker, I thought it was a tropical island paradise

>>2178999
>You can't critize the left! We are all perfects!

Dumb retarded, and probably narcissist too.

>>2179044
>mama and papa says commies are BAD, and i learned that a lot of people think Cuba is bad too! You are bad and stupid and racist and homophobec!!!!

We should not allow crying babies in this website. Stop crying and maybe you can regain some respect.

>>2179048
Retarded take

>>2179104
Nuh uh, he’s hot PLUS a martyr, he never had to deal with the ugly business of actually governing snd that adds to his hotness. Fidel was equally attractive but had to stay behind and actually run Cuba.

>>2177941
cuba average life quality is miles above most comparable countries despite being under an illegal and barbaric embargo by the hegemonic US empire since decades
now kill yourself gusano retard

>>2177894

The man understood some of the core basics of what was required to create an economy that was truly centrally planned and non-capitalist.

At a time when the Soviet Union feel heavily into revisionism and started dismantling the Stalin model of economy, Che Guevara managed to think up the core necessary features of the economy that were required for socialism. As far as I can tell he did this without being aware that this was the case in the USSR prior to Khrushchev era degeneration.

Some key books linked on this topic.

>>2179017
the internet there has no twitter or leftypol, just pick up games of lan classics like warcraft3 and cs1.6

>>2177894
>the most beloved
Certainly one of its most popular, but for a damn good reason. Man had a hand in ending the batista regime and expanding civil and workers rights for the Cubans. A great warrior and voice of the working class.

His administration and his foreign exploits are somewhat left lacking (though not entirely out of fault of his own). What we can at least attribute is that his experiences and lessons are worth learning about.

>do you also think that he’s homophobic and racist.

Not much of his homophobia outside of him being a bit weirded out by some people, and as for his racism, although documented, he was able to overcome this and aid in fighting racism. You think a truly dedicated racist would fight and support Congolese revolutionaries?

The man was a mad lad, no question about it. Wether you love him or not is an entirely different question.

>medical doctor
>handsome
>travelled the world fighting in revolutions
>has the most famous picture of all time
Dude was the biggest Chad in history.

>>2177894
all three? hes probably the most well known that is reasonably liked and for that and in comparison to other well known communists who are not universally liked he is overrated and he also had some chauvinist views that contribute to him being overrated and i dont think he made much original additions to theory just reapplied maoism in conditions where it worked and then also where it didn't. not to say he was bad, still extremely based. you would have to do some kind of world poll though because its possible that stalin is more beloved and che less known outside the anglosphere and population sizes would put him ahead

Like it or hate it, Che is the most important historical figure of latam so far, and it will continue to be this way as long as the continent continues to be ruled under the thumb of Washington and their indecent lapdogs.

And yes, Cuba is a shithole but so is the rest of latam. Cubans don't want to go to "escape" to even worse shitholes like Col*mbia, Argentina or Perú, they wanna go to the states or Canada. This point has little to do with Che anyways; he was an important figure in the revolution but not as much in the Cuban nation building that came afterwards.

>>2177980
Buen spanglish "blódel" aaaajajaja.


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