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>>2197977>>2200586Reminder that Pete Hegseth was not only a commander at Gitmo, but he also volunteered for a combat deployment with the 187th airborne, a unit so bloodthirsty and criminal that they were convicted in American court of multiple war crimes. Their unit commander, Michael Steele, pushed troops to compete to see who could kill the most Iraqis and gave out engraved knives to the winners.
They posed all the bodies for pictures, with victims ranging from 13 to a 75 year old man who's dentures fell out as the soldiers laughed.
The survivors were sent to black sites and ruthlessly tortured. Even the army itself admits that 90% of the people abducted during these raids (called "Zero Raids") were totally innocent.
>>2200370He's not wrong. We had a year of glowtors yelling anyone criticizing the GOP or Trump were "dem**cels" trying to get "the left" to vote for genocide Joe's protege Cackling Kameltoe, instead of you know having legitimate concerns about how the Dem opposition on issues like Gaza was just as heinous and disgusting as the Dems themselves, and how the Trump campaign was cozying up with tech billionaires who promote the ideas of a guy (Yarvin) who "joked" about reducing the working poor and unemployed to biodiesel.
Dunno if they finally stopped or gave up, or if jannies finally cracked down on them after they started posting about how ICE'd Palestinian permanent residents are actually petite bourg gusanos and Trump will "save" the American working class by putting them all in camps.
>>2200298Dems are too busy trying to "reach across the aisle" and obsessing over how Trump is a Russian puppet (whilst being almost silent about the genocide in Gaza). Bernie and AOC are part of only a handful raising a stink on a national level. No surprise of course, most here already expected it. And I bet if there's ever major (2020) unrest again we'll again see the lib rank and file denounce it (muh white nationalist agitators! Listen to our handpicked "community leaders"!) or keep silent, or at best try to co-opt it. (You need to stop Fascism by voting for "moderate" geriatric neolib ziocon centrist dems funded by "good billionaires" in the midterms!)
Only a few "radicals" are preaching non-violent resistance, let alone a general strike.
Also most are completely silent on (Techbros wanting to annex) Canada and Greenland lul
>>2200591RT is a propaganda outlet which exists to spread narratives convenient to the Kremlin (regardless of whether they're true or not).
Russian telegram (both Russian and English channels) and media are even worse. Tons of posts recently trying to promote ziocon burger ghouls (including cretins like Charlie Kirk), talking about partnering with America, blaming Euros for everything, with almost dead silence about Gaza (compared to months ago). Very obvious they're all getting the same instructions from the same handlers.
>>2200695what about writing in the meme PSL candidate and then voting for local elections?
I guess it didn't matter that whom I vote for didn't win – leave it to Chicagoans to vote for the most obvious "progressive" grifters…
>>2200662Also this shit. Remember he claimed to be "pro-LGBTQ" 10 years ago. Caitlyn Jenner at the RNC etc. MAGAtards are eating it up, like that LBJ quote: Trans women are the new uyghurs. And it's double cathartic to reactoids because trans women are socially acceptable targets of misogyny. And there's few enough of them that this doesn't threaten the stability of the country the way race riots would. They're a "little treat" of the Oligarchs to the plebs, whilst they dismantle social security and labor rights, assume direct control of the federal government, and prep for expansionist aggression.
>>2200620Kristi Noem genuinely disgusts me. Reminds me exactly of the sort of sadistic camp guard archetype you find in books about the holocaust. Petite bourgeois/Kulak background. No surprises.
>>2200701is it bad that I just don't give a fuck about transpeople
like don't get me wrong i'm not some chudcel that wants to genocide transpeople, but I see at my gym all these posters about trans hotlines and trans protests and trans this, trans that and it's like I can't help but roll my eyes. Like these people really think they're the center of the world because they got groomed on discord and big pharma to take a bunch of hormones and undergo gender changing surgery and it's like there are more are more pressing issues at hand FFS
>>2200705just report
open bigotry with no other point is against the rules
>>2200662Healthcare. Please. For the love of God. Just give me healthcare.
>>2200701There really needs to be some kind of backlash against this anti-trans shit. Public beatings or something.
>>2200702I see way more anti-trans shit than trans shit. This is bad take to have.
>>2200702It's virtue signalling by shitlibs distracting from the fact they've largely done nothing for the American working class during the past 30 years. The same way attacking them is a distraction from how the GOP is fucking the working class over.
Trans people are the perfect minority to "pander to", and the perfect minority to attack.
They're effectively invisible, and rare. I've met trans women (that I know of) and all of them were very discrete about it. Many are also not going to want to speak up and "out" themselves. At the same time, they're an acceptable release valve for (right wing) misogyny. You can ridicule trans women, "joke" about trans suicides, call them disgusting, etc. With nigh zero repercussion, compared to targeting "cis" women or other (racial) minorities.
Even the regular demands for affordable health care, higher (minimum) wages and more accessible housing - which all would benefit the overwhelming amount of trans women out there - are regularly ignored in favor of useless sloganeering and symbolic gestures.
Also specifically trans women, because notice how barely anyone ever brings up trans men. Which again, has to do with the misogyny (including by women) inherent to most forms of transphobia. As well as homophobia (trans women are "fags", effeminate men, etc).
>>2200730Not only are you a reactionary imbecile, but you completely failed to grasp what I posted.
>Democrat thoughtNo such thing. Trump is continuing the same genocidal policies. Whilst also prepping for war with Iran.
>>2200705>>2200716>>2200733>>2200707And this is the board that mocks and wishes death on Indian men.
>>2200702Yea it's bad you don't care because you're a transphobe who wants to "gas the dalit".
But for real, I understand how you feel.
Trans are a minority within a minority
The problem with the trans movement is that it doesn't even care about trans. Same way autism awareness doesn't care about autists. It's all using those vulnerable people as charity cases to make people feel good about themselves
There are far more cis folk, both heterosexual And LBG, who are in crisis.
>>2200742>And this is the board that mocks and wishes death on Indian men.I will agree there are some on this board who use leftist language to disguise their chauvinism.
Like, for instance, you.
>>2200768I think that anon is referring to the recent spade of posts in /siberia/ that are like umm isn't it ethical to hate pajeets like they shit everywhere and have caste system em dash
Idk why that happened but i noticed that it happened after the whole Elon h1b fiasco. My guess is that there are stem guys here who really think that indians are gonna take his job or something
>>2200649>revolution is warGross oversimplification.
>>2200742What level of liberal idpol is this?
>>2200896will i
>explain why anon is wrongor will i
>call his pic "coal" to signal that I have terminal imageboard soyjak spam brain >>2201022non paywall link: https://archive.is/SWAFEarticle textOne of the most significant intellectual influences on key figures in the Trump administration is Curtis Yarvin, an American computer engineer-turned-blogger who believes that the game is up for US democracy and only a latter-day monarch or national “CEO” can save America.
A second name that crops up in connection to Trumpworld’s philosophy is that of Nick Land, an Englishman and former academic. Together, the pair have come to be recognised as the twin eminences of a predominantly online movement known as neoreaction or the Dark Enlightenment.
Seeing references to Land transports me back to the early 1990s, when I spent a year studying for a master’s degree in philosophy at the University of Warwick. He was then a charismatic young lecturer, not yet the dark magus of anti-democratic neoreaction that he is today.
In those days, Land described himself as a “delirial engineer” — a follower of marginal thinkers such as the French writer Georges Bataille, who sought to liberate the forces of unconscious desire that the rationalism of the Enlightenment was meant to hold in check.
His work was also a celebration of capitalism, or rather of the fearsome power of the market to dissolve settled ways of life. Accelerating capitalism could usher in a new set of social relations, he believed, or hasten the “singularity” in which the biological and technological merge.
As the Nineties wore on his behaviour became increasingly erratic. He started living in his office on campus. He eventually left his academic post in 1998 and moved to China. I didn’t hear of him again until 2011, when a small independent publisher put out a collection of his essays called Fanged Noumena.
The years spent overseas had left their mark. What once looked like a tactical embrace of the market had turned into veneration of a “globally ascendant Sino-capitalism”. In a breathless paean to the “turbo-charged Shanghai economy” he rhapsodised about a “perfect complicity between radical innovation and profound conservatism”.
Over the next few years his theories gained traction among the US-based far-right. During the first Trump administration, as journalists started to cite Land in their attempts to understand the “alt-right”, I tracked him down. In an email exchange he told me that China and east Asian statelets like Hong Kong or Singapore came closest to what he regarded as a model of “competent government”. He has also praised their lack of “social terror”, which he attributes to ethnically homogenous populations.
Land, like Yarvin, believes the ideal state should function like a business. According to this theory, which Yarvin calls “neocameralism”, a properly constituted state is one that has been cured of democracy. Its guiding principle is “no voice, free exit”: the residents or clients (not citizens) of such a state have no rights, but do have the ability to take their custom elsewhere.
One of the touchstones for Land and others on what is sometimes called the “techno-commercial” wing of neoreaction is an article written in 2009 by the Silicon Valley billionaire and now prominent Donald Trump supporter Peter Thiel (who also happens to have been an investor in Yarvin’s start-up, Urbit). “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible,” Thiel wrote. The fate of the world “may depend on the effort of a single person” able to make the world “safe for capitalism”.
Land’s Thiel-inspired vision for a “hard reboot” of the western world, set out in a long essay entitled “The Dark Enlightenment”, includes the dismantling of democracy and a massive downsizing of government. Once an obscure idea, it sounds a lot like what Trump confidant Steve Bannon used to call the “deconstruction of the administrative state”. That, Land told me, “is definitely [something] my type of neoreactionaries would endorse. To the point of euphoria.”
I contacted him again recently, and asked if he’d respond in the same way to what Elon Musk and the so-called Department of Government Efficiency are doing by gutting federal agencies. “The answer,” Land said, “is definitely yes.”
>>2201022>He has also praised their lack of “social terror”, which he attributes to ethnically homogenous populations.oop there it is,
<we wanted to have a society without terror but there's just too much diversity, we can't help ourselves but to enact genocidal policies against minorities who had the audacity to exist among usis the subtext
>>2201022>Land, like Yarvin, believes the ideal state should function like a business. reactoids have been saying this forever. this is nothing new.
>According to this theory, which Yarvin calls “neocameralism”, a properly constituted state is one that has been cured of democracy. Its guiding principle is “no voice, free exit”: What do we see in reality from hyper-reactionary states like Saudi Arabia? They bring in slaves from India and then tear up their visas so they can't leave. Does anyone really read this shit and believe that Land's statements here will ever be true in practice?
>the residents or clients (not citizens) of such a state have no rights, but do have the ability to take their custom elsewhere. suuuuuuuuuuuuuure they will
>>2201022>Land’s Thiel-inspired vision for a “hard reboot” of the western world, set out in a long essay entitled “The Dark Enlightenment”, includes the dismantling of democracy and a massive downsizing of government. Once an obscure idea, it sounds a lot like what Trump confidant Steve Bannon used to call the “deconstruction of the administrative state”. That, Land told me, “is definitely [something] my type of neoreactionaries would endorse. To the point of euphoria.” >I contacted him again recently, and asked if he’d respond in the same way to what Elon Musk and the so-called Department of Government Efficiency are doing by gutting federal agencies. “The answer,” Land said, “is definitely yes.”I hope they do it. Please reakkktoids, destroy your own capacity to govern. Balkanize your own shit the moment you take power. Dumbasses.
>>2200977There's using anonymity to protect yourself and then there's using anonymity to have an unlimited spam license
>>2200620bogdanoff'd.
i lived in SD when she was governor. disgusted but not surprised that someone so neglectful/hostile towards Pine Ridge would climb her way into the cabinet.
>>2201067How large is the number of trans or gay people who repress and live miserable lives because of conservative propaganda and social capture that has lasted for the past few hundred years?
Considering that homosexual behavior is seen in animals and that many gender non-conforming people had a place in many civilizations' societies before 'modern' christfaggot culture overtook the world, perhaps this number is far greater than anyone could predict. One in ten people are LGBT among the younger crowd, and this is with LGBT people being one of the most slandered groups in human history (in america and britian, at least)
Did it explode because of a 'social contagion', or did it explode because people had momentarily thought that centuries of christfag oppression had finally loosened up and started to be more authentic to themselves?
>>2201073>intaking information won't change youFor the most part, it does not. Liberals have bet their existence as an ideology that you can EDUUUUUUCATE fascists, but some things are immaterial to the self. Intaking information has no little effect on an individual's personality.
Change happens only because of a change in material conditions. Not because you read something online.
>>2201072“The internet gives everyone room to be their true selves hence why you all are evil monsters excluding our poor heckin trans people”
This is a poor pitch to the people who could feasibly show solidarity to trans folks and try to help them. I’ll never understand this mindset of “we’re in constant danger of being killed” being paired with insulting bystanders who could feasibly help.
>>2201082Large portions of the american population
spread and believe in lies about how transhumanists are muh prime evil demons who need to be zapped in the brain to cure them.
Yes, the average american is evil. Read settlers. Your country is cooked. People say 'it's the next nazi germany', but let's be honest here: americans are much worse and will rack up a higher kill count in the end. And arguably, they already have.
What else should you call a nation of demons who worship capitalism and sell out their neighbors to rich people in hopes of financial or social compensation?
>>2201080>Change happens only because of a change in material conditions. Not because you read something online.Pffttt hahahaha this is exactly what happens when you become a theorycel. This is a grossly simplistic take. Reading something, believing it and taking action on what you now believe to be true… can change material conditions! It's not always the other way around dude.
Kids are dumb as shit (no don't give me some lib shit about how kids r super smurt!!!) they will read some dumb shit on the internet and do it because their friends are doing it too.
>>2201079 (me)
Ah yup there it is
>>2201087>>2201084>>2201080Ask yourselves what this anon is actually getting out of coming on here regularly and screaming this. They're either another internet narcissist who thinks they're special for noticing that things are bad
…OR they're here to demoralize you. Now ask yourself if it makes a functional difference.
>>2201089It's the objectively correct take. Theorycels are people who lecture others endlessly in hopes that it will change their minds. Americans will never change their mind. Not about gays. Not about trans people. Not about capitalism. They will worship christ and worship evil until they die, because that is what they are.
You will never argue americans into socialism. You can only force them into it. When China wins, they will have to purge large amounts of the population or keep them under a perpetual gun barrel to force them to live properly.
EVERYTHING in america came at the cost of other people's lives and welfare. It is written into the DNA of the nation. From the slaughter of the indians, to the enslavement of blacks, to the fearmongering about transhumanists, to the plunder of the first and second worlds. This is the nation that dismantled the USSR as a humiliation ritual and destroyed international communism.
What the fuck are you talking about when you think this nation can be saved? Save yourself and your friends, but don't be retarded enough to handcuff you to a burning, sinking ship.
>>2201094Being trans is financially and socially one of the worst decisions you can make. On average a transhumanist makes like 50% of the salary of a cis person, regardless of race or sexuality. I don't know why people still blurt out the rightoid's "fetishist"propaganda. If it was a fetish, they wouldn't care about HRT access or social transition, they would just do it in the comfort of their own homes.
Being trans is essentially condemning yourself to a life of isolation, violence, and mistreatment in the workplace.
>>2201093Are you even replying to the right person?
>What the fuck are you talking about when you think this nation can be saved?What the fuck ARE YOU talking about? Where did I mention that? The exogenous estradiol is frying your fucking brain.
>>2201097And the faggot can't even hold himself together for three seconds without revealing his hand about what he REALLY thinks about transhumanists.
I hope you get butchered like a lamb by a chinese soldier. You deserve every misfortune that befalls this nation, and no amount of seething transhumanist hatred will change your fate.
>>2201070still waiting for the evidence
>>2201078ok but it's a vibes based analysis with no evidence
>>2201091>>2201113>demoralize >This day, if it please Heaven, we are to have, on improved Anti-Chaumette principles: a New Religion, Catholicism being burned out, and Reason-worship guillotined, was there not need of one? Incorruptible Robespierre, not unlike the Ancients, as Legislator of a free people, will now also be Priest and Prophet. …
>The grand question and hope, however, is: Will not this Feast of the Tuileries Mumbo-Jumbo be a sign perhaps that the Guillotine is to abate? Far enough from that! Precisely on the second day after it, Couthon, one of the 'three shallow scoundrels,' gets himself lifted into the Tribune; produces a bundle of papers. Couthon proposes that, as Plots still abound, the Law of the Suspect shall have extension, and Arrestment new vigour and facility. Further, that as in such case business is like to be heavy, our Revolutionary Tribunal too shall have extension; be divided, say, into Four Tribunals, each with its President, each with its Fouquier or Substitute of Fouquier, all labouring at once, any remnant of shackle or dilatory formality be struck off: in this way it may perhaps still overtake the work. Such is Couthon's Decree of the Twenty-second Prairial, famed in those times. At hearing of which Decree, the very Mountain gasped, awestruck; and one Ruamps ventured to say that if it passed without adjournment and discussion, he, as one Representative, 'would blow his brains out.' Vain saying! The Incorruptible knit his brows; spoke a prophetic fateful word or two; the Law of Prairial is Law; Ruamps glad to leave his rash brains where they are. Death then, and always Death! Even so. Fouquier is enlarging his borders; making room for Batches of a Hundred and fifty at once;—getting a Guillotine set up of improved velocity, and to work under cover, in the apartment close by. So that Salut itself has to intervene, and forbid him: 'Wilt thou demoralise the Guillotine,' asks Collot reproachfully, 'démoraliser le supplice!' demoralize the torture!
Okay can we all stop having a struggle session over whether trans people are bourgeois or not? Otherwise it's going to last forever. Anywho
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/27/trump-palestinian-hamas-purge-colleges-protestsWe've now reached the "barring foreign students from universities entirely" stage of Zionist paranoia
https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2025/03/26/jd-vance-west-global-south-global-value-chain/US VP JD Vance admits West wants Global South trapped at bottom of value chainAt a summit held by a Silicon Valley venture capital firm, US Vice President JD Vance gave a speech about globalization that made it clear that the West wants to keep poor, formerly colonized countries in the Global South trapped at the bottom of the global value chain, through monopolistic control of advanced technologies. US Vice President JD Vance gave a speech about globalization that made it clear that Washington’s goal is to keep formerly colonized countries in the Global South trapped at the bottom of the global value chain. Vance acknowledged that the US-led West wants to maintain a strict international division of labor, in which poor countries in the periphery produce low value-added goods (with lots of competition and therefore low profits), whereas the rich nations in the core extract exorbitant monopoly rents through their control over high value-added technologies (with little to no competition, reinforced by strict intellectual property rights). The US vice president made these remarks at a summit that was organized by the Silicon Valley venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz. This annual meeting in Washington, DC is called the American Dynamism Summit, and it brings together corporate executives and US government officials to facilitate contracts. One of their main priorities is preparing for war with China. Andreessen Horowitz promotes 50 US companies that it says are “shaping the fight of the future”, outlining a scenario of a hypothetical 2027 war with China over Taiwan. Vance is a China hawk who has scapegoated Beijing for the many economic problems in the US, demonizing it as “the biggest threat to our country”. After Donald Trump selected Vance to be his running mate in the 2024 campaign, Vance pledged that they would end the war in Ukraine, not because they wanted peace for peace’s sake, but rather to prioritize containing China. The US will “bring this thing to a rapid close so America can focus on the real issue, which is China”, Vance told Fox News, claiming, “That’s the biggest threat to our country and we are completely distracted from it”. In his March 18 speech at the Andreessen Horowitz summit, the US vice president sought to bridge the gap between right-wing “populists” and what he called “techno-optimists” — a term promoted by billionaire venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, a personal friend of Vance. Vance has close ties to Silicon Valley billionaires, and has even worked for some of them. Although Vance is known for exaggerating his humble upbringing, for which he was accused of poverty “stolen valor”, Vance attended the elite Yale Law School and worked as a corporate lawyer and venture capitalist.
The far-right Silicon Valley billionaire oligarch Peter Thiel previously employed Vance. Thiel then cultivated his political career, spending $15 million to help Vance win the 2022 Senate election in Ohio. Like Vance, Thiel is extremely anti-China. Thiel also openly supports monopolies. The billionaire venture capitalist declared that “competition is for losers”, writing that “monopoly is the condition of every successful business”. Thiel identifies as a conservative libertarian, and he has argued that capitalism is more important than democracy. But he also wrote that, “Actually, capitalism and competition are opposites”, and that US corporations must “look to build a monopoly”. Dependency theory was right: Global North wants Global South stuck at bottom of value chain. In his speech at the American Dynamism Summit, Vance stated:
The idea of globalization was that rich countries would move further up the value chain, while the poor countries made the simpler things. You would open an iPhone box, and it would say “designed in Cupertino, California”. Now, the implication, of course, is that it would be manufactured in Shenzhen or somewhere else. And, yeah, some people might lose their jobs in manufacturing, but they could learn to design or, to use a very popular phrase, learn to code. But I think we got it wrong. It turns out that the geographies that do the manufacturing get awfully good at the designing of things. There are network effects, as you all well understand. The firms that design products work with firms that manufacture. They share intellectual property. They share best practices. And they even sometimes share critical employees.
Now, we assumed that other nations would always trail us in the value chain, but it turns out that as they got better at the low end of the value chain, they also started catching up on the higher end. We were squeezed from both ends. In these comments, the US vice president inadvertently acknowledged that the fundamental thesis of the dependency theorists in the 1960s was indeed correct. The rich countries in the core of the world-system (mostly in the Global North) seek to trap the poor, formerly colonized nations in the periphery (mostly in the Global South) in a cycle of dependency on the core’s high value-added products, through monopolistic control of advanced technologies. Because countries in the periphery are constantly competing with each other to produce primary commodities (like agricultural products, crude oil, and unprocessed minerals) and low value-added goods (such as textiles), their profit margins are tiny, and the terms of trade are unbalanced in the favor of the wealthy core countries, which previously colonized the nations of the periphery. China has tried to challenge its subservient place in the world-system, to move up the global value chain and out of the periphery — so the US government has responded with aggressive tariffs, sanctions, and export controls, aimed at sabotaging China’s technological innovation and economic development, to keep the US at the top of the international division of labor, where it can continue to extract monopoly rents. It is not a coincidence that the co-founders of BRICS are the countries that managed to move from the periphery to the semi-periphery. They have sought to transform the world-system. China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi referenced this in a historic speech on the subject of multipolarity at the Munich Security Conference in February. “Whether it is the colonial system or the core-periphery structure, unequal orders are bound to meet their demise”, declared the Chinese foreign minister, while pledging support for a multipolar world.
>>2201221every westoid has a smart phone and it tells them seething, rabid hatred 24/7, we live in an evil version of idiocracy. Also an African billionaire immigrant is controlling the US government via a social media app, and we had a global pandemic, everything was shut down for a year.
You gotta leave the country man. Know when a cause is lost and help other nations build socialism there. Don't tether yourself to a sinking, burning ship. You wouldn't try to build communism in nazi germany, you'd fucking run to the USSR. Think along similar terms. There is no shame in a strategic retreat when a battlefield is lost.
China will win.
>>2201244strasserites on here think that THIS country can be reformed into something humane.
lmao.
Remember: America MUST be destroyed
>>2201270lmao you're in the CPUSA you think voting for biden is going to save us.
>>2201272because i actually believe in something
>>2201087>Read settlersYep, another spooked MTWist westerner (glowie) who believes in a warped version of original sin.
The Third World doesn't actually care about your self-flagellation. And maybe Sakai was wrong this whole time and you never realized it. Seeing how those things Sakai said whites had, have been taken away ever since Reagan. Sakai only saw what was in actuality a temporary concession and thought it was permanent thing inherit to white people instead of a temporary concession to prevent communist revolution in the USA.
Not to mention he misquoted William Z. Foster in his book. And if Sakai got that wrong, what else did he get wrong? (Everything, that's what).
>>2201279j edgar saKKKai was a federal agent, this is already known.
i mean, every anarKKKist is either a cop or doing their work for them, but j edgar saKKKai was directly on their payroll.
>>2201279Important to note is that Sakai didn’t just misquote Foster, he deliberately omitted info to make Foster sound like a racist.
Like that isn’t the thing that gets discussed enough. It’s not just that Sakai was wrong or incorrect, he deliberately
lied. He would make claims about Lenin that were completely fictitious, and he would curiously never set out terms for what constitutes someone being a “labor aristocrat” while—curiously!—use “hard data” to say “X% of employees in this job are labor aristocrats.”
And to this day third worldists carry on his legacy of just making shit up and attacking other leftists.
>>2201277You mistake volume for beliefs.
>>2201281yes the gestapo is literally hunting down leftists and undesirables and putting them into for-profit torture dungeons and yet the waffentwerps here still say that the worst thing anyone can do is fight back.
every one of these "people" is a collaborator.
>>2201284every anarKKKist lies, it's what they do. there is a reason why the first thing the bolsheviks did, before they even declared soviet power in petrograd, was send a squad of chekists to hunt the anarKKKists to extinction.
the only left wing thing an anarKKKist can do is die screaming. they are the first, foremost and most dangerous enemy of the left and they should be treated as such.
>>2201300he was a fed, so he was an anarKKKist.
six of one, half dozen of another.
>>2201274Check this out. Here's an article about a Weathermen "war council" in December 1969. It reads like characters in a John Carpenter movie.
>The meeting hall was decked with large banners of revolutionary leaders – Che, Ho, Fidel, Malcolm X, Eldridge Cleaver – hanging from the ceiling. One entire wall of the ballroom was covered with alternating black and red posters of murdered Illinois Panther leader Fred Hampton. An enormous cardboard machine gun hung from the ceiling. Violence was the keynote of the long hours of talk that began Dec. 27. The distinction between revolutionary armed struggle and violence for its own sake is a major point of contention between Weatherman and its numerous critics.[…]
>The strongest debate centered on the question of who is going to make the American revolution. Weatherman, along with many others in the movement, recognizes that the American revolution is part of the world struggle against U.S. imperialism, a struggle for liberation from both colonial and capitalist oppression. Weatherman’s critics maintain, however, that Weatherman’s internationalism is based on an analysis that ignores capitalist oppression in America. Weatherman sees revolutionary change in America as happening almost solely, if at all, as a belated reaction to a successful world revolution including a successful revolt by the black colony inside the U.S.
>The logic of that view was expressed in a statement by Ted Gold, a top Weatherman, who said that “an agency of the people of the world” would be set up to run the U.S. economy and society after the defeat of the U.S. imperialism abroad.
>A critic spoke up: “In short, if the people of the world succeed in liberating themselves before American radicals have made the American revolution, then the Vietnamese and Africans and the Chinese are gonna move in and run things for white America. It sounds like a John Bircher’s worst dream. There will have to be more repression than ever against white people, but by refusing to organize people, Weatherman isn’t even giving them half a chance.”
>“Well,” replied Gold, “if it will take fascism, we’ll have to have fascism.”
>Weatherman–virtually all white–continues to promote the notion that white working people in America are inherently counter-revolutionary, impossible to organize, or just plain evil–“honky bastards,” as many Weathermen put it.
>Weatherman’s bleak view of the post-revolutionary world comes from an analysis of American society that says that “class doesn’t count, race does.”[…]
>The Weatherman position boiled down to inevitable race war in America, with very few “honkies”–except perhaps the 400 people in the room and the few street kids or gang members who might run with them–surviving the holocaust.
>That notion is linked to Weatherman’s concept of initiating armed struggle now and not waiting to build mass white support–that is, a small but courageous white fighting force will do material damage that will weaken imperialism while the black liberation movement smashes “the imperialist motherfucker” by itself.
>Machtinger talked a lot about how the black liberation movement is so far advanced at this point that the only thing left for white revolutionaries is to support blacks by fighting cops as a diversionary tactic.
>Weatherman is adamant in saying that whites cannot be organized into a mass revolutionary movement. To say that they can or should, according to Weatherleaders, is “national chauvinism.” “The Panthers say they should,” argued Avakian. “Well, we don’t agree with the Panthers on a lot of things,” replied Machtinger.
>Weathermen now talk less about a “strategy to win,” more about their historic role as catalysts. They emphasize the need to establish a white, revolutionary presence, to break movement people out of the traditional role of long-term base-building and passivity.
>A new Weatherman catchword was “barbarism.” The Weathermen see themselves as playing a role similar to that of the barbarian tribes, such as the Vandals and the Visigoths, who invaded and destroyed the decadent, corrupt Rome.
>Unlike former SDS national council meetings, no specific resolutions were debated or voted on. The only formal structure consisted of speeches by the small leadership group known as the “Weather Bureau.” There were many small discussions and regional meetings, too.
>Bernardine Dohrn, former inter-organizational secretary of SDS for 1968-69, gave the opening speech. She began by admitting that a lot of Weatherman’s actions have been motivated by “a white guilt trip.”
>“But we fucked up a lot anyway. We didn’t fight around Bobby Seale when he was shackled at the Conspiracy Trial. We should have torn the courtroom apart. We didn’t smash them when Mobe peace creeps hissed David Hilliard on Moratorium Day in San Francisco. We didn’t burn Chicago down when Fred was killed.”
>Dohrn characterized violent, militant response in the streets as “armed struggle” against imperialism. “Since Oct. 11 [the last day of the SDS national window-breaking action in Chicago], we’ve been wimpy on armed struggle …. We’re about being a fighting force alongside the blacks, but a lot of us are still honkies and we’re still scared of fighting. We have to get into armed struggle.”[…]
>“We were in an airplane,” Dohrn related, “and we went up and down the aisle ’borrowing’ food from people’s plates. They didn’t know we were Weathermen; they just knew we were crazy. That’s what we’re about, being crazy motherfuckers and scaring the shit out of honky America.”
>A 20-foot long poster adorned another wall of the ballroom. It was covered with drawings of bullets, each with a name. Along with the understandable targets like Chicago’s Mayor Daley, the Weathermen deemed as legitimate enemies to be offed, among others, the Guardian (which has criticized Weatherman) and Sharon Tate, one of several victims in the recent mass murder in California. She was eight months pregnant.
>“Honkies are going to be afraid of us,” Dohrn insisted. She went on to tell the war council about Charlie Manson, accused leader of the gang which allegedly murdered the movie star and several others on their Beverly Hills estate. Manson has been portrayed in the media as a Satanic, magnetic personality who held near-hypnotic sway over several women whom he lent out to friends as favors and brought along for the murder scene. The press also mentioned Manson’s supposed fear of blacks–he reportedly moved into rural California to escape the violence of a race war.
>Weatherman, the “Bureau” says, digs Manson, not only for his understanding of white America–the killer purportedly wrote “pig” in blood on the wall after the murder–but also because he’s a “bad motherfucker.” (At least one press report explained the “pig” on the wall by saying that Manson wrote that in order to throw suspicion on black people.)
>“Dig it, first they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!” said Bernardine Dohrn.
>Women members of Weatherman held a panel discussion on women’s liberation. The fighting women, “the women who can carry bombs under their dresses like in ’The Battle of Algiers,’” was put forward as the only valid model for women’s liberation. Women’s liberation comes not only with taking leadership roles and with asserting yourself politically, they said, but also with overcoming hang-ups about violence.
>In between the women’s raps, the people sang a medley of Weatherman songs, high camp numbers such as, “I’m Dreaming of a White Riot,” “Communism Is What We Do,” and “We Need a Red Party.” Spirited chants broke out, too: “Women power!” “Struggling power!” “Red Army power!” “Sirhan Sirhan power!” “Charlie Manson power!” “Power to the People!” “Off the pig!”https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-1/war-council.htm >>2201303idk, castro managed to do it with 68 fighters on the granma.
the IRA managed with fewer than 1000. spear of the nation had fewer than 5000.
90% of america's military equipment is made by single source contractors. individual attacks on factories could totally cripple the US military.
the goal is to force america to withdraw from overseas and turn inwards. we will not destroy america, we will make them do it.
>>2201308saKKKai was in your camp, the camp of langley and quantico.
>>2201325maga are soulless psychopaths, more at 11
also lmao at the AI still fucking up hands even in a cartoon style
>>2201294You're honestly proving CPUSA anon right by immediately deflecting by screaming about anarchists. Motherfucker, nobody mentioned anarchists until you brought them into this.
Fuckin' hell, every time I check this thread I remember why I don't post here anymore. This place has been overrun by emotionally stunted weirdos and literal dumb children.
>>2201308CPUSA, serious question: Why are you still here?
I'm not saying this to be mean, or to attack you, but just look at the above exchange. This thread's been clearly perma-hijacked by stunted attention seekers who just want to lash out at strangers online.
What's the point of making an actual effort to discuss anything in good faith when the mod team is clearly either understaffed, demoralized, apathetic, or all three?
>>2201361 (me)
To put it more simply: Given the
absolute motherfucking state of this board, wouldn't your efforts and energy be better spent elsewhere given that the majority of the posters here just seem more interested in dick-swinging contests than anything else?
>>2201370>This site's dying for a reason. People don't enjoy dealing with trolls and would rather spend their time actually having a productive conversation.I don't pretend to know what the solution is but as someone that's spent pretty much my whole life on obscure internet forums this ALWAYS happens. One or two exceedingly annoying people show up, users initially tolerate or ignore them until it's too much. Then the userbase decide to devolve into shitflinging to "call out the shitposters" or demand mass action from the mods. Then the mods give in and start holding public executions of anyone deemed annoying to appease the "community". Then the community loses all culture it previously had as the angry mob slowly dismantles any kind of funposting and replaces it with perpetual anger. This is the goal of all these shitposters, to drive communities apart and force increasing actions to "deal with them" that ultimately hurt the community. Meanwhile the shitposter just changes their IP and continues shitting up the site until it's dead. Stuff like disabling the tor node to prevent shitposting is exactly what the CIA wants bro.
tl;dr mass action against shitposters doesn't really achieve anything except turning your forum into lord of the flies
>>2201381the solution has been around for ages.
it's called "Do Something"
>>2201302A few thoughts:
First, everything laid out in this article are attitudes hegemonic to the western left and play a major role in its utter incompetence in the face of countless crises.
Secondly, I wish we still had these types of leftists doing weather underground shit so they’d blow themselves up and stop bothering the rest of us.
Third, reading that made me wish for a socialist org for white guys where we didn’t have to deal with these freaks (nor have to deal with right wingers)
>>2201399nope sorry we have to wait and do nothing, the only left wing policy is to wait and do nothing.
no matter what happens, wait and do nothing.
>>2201389there was already a socialist org for white guys, it was called the black front.
it's considerably farther left than the CPUSA though, so i don't know if you'd like it much.
>>2201325think of all the electricity they burn making this ugly ass propaganda
btw if you try to search engine how much energy generative AI uses you now get generative AI answers admitting it uses 2% of global electricity. you're using this shit even when you don't want to. they force it down your throat at every turn even when it isn't particularly useful
>>2201418piggybacking onto my own post, we need a global solar initiative 20 years ago. Every roof on this godforsaken planet should have govt subsidized solar panels already.
>ooooh but that's succdem reformismok but you aren't even gong to have a planet to do revolution on soon enough
Liberal critiques of fascism often focus on irrational aspects of it: cults of personality, fashion and aesthetics, imagery and symbolism, the scapegoating of minority populations, slogans and chants, patriarchy and misogyny, etc.
Marxist critiques of fascism often focus on rational functions that fascism serves to protect capitalism: service to the economic elite, consolidating identity through the state to crush class conscious movements, the dismantling of organized labor, corporatizing previously publicly owned entities and resources, and using slave labor to drive down the wages of workers, all while robbing the working class of wealth in a violently rapid fashion.
Liberalism focuses on the often erratic ideological components of fascism, whereas Marxism focuses on the function fascism serves. From a liberal lens, neither Franco nor Salazar were fascists, but through a Marxist lens, they absolutely were.
>>2201439I disagree in that this crushing of organized labor, class collaborationism, slavery and promoting the interests of the bourgeoisie is somehow distinctly fascist. I've made this point before: You don't need fascists to kill communists. Ordinary liberals and even social democrats will do this just fine too.
Nor does it arise as a counter to a strong labor movement in itself. Where was the militant communist movement threatening to overthrow capitalism in places like Imperial Japan? Why did Germany end up the way it did, but not the US (racism side)?
Fascism rather is a response to the national bourgeoisie running into boundaries of capitalism itself.
Liberals and socdems might agree to wipe out communists, but fascists promise the bourgeoisie they'll wipe out their competitors through protectionism and war too. All fascists are anticommunists, but not all anticommunists are fascist.
>>2201428yeah but you're not dead
>>2201429if I were planning something I wouldn't say it on here, especially not to impress "the real iron felix" lol. In fact I would do the opposite. I would say I'm not going to follow his glowie ass advice to get myself killed doing reckless adventurism without a mass movement because… to do otherwise would be bad opsec, no?
>>2201367On the internet, there's no way to handle disrespect. At the very least on a mainstream social media platform, you can SWAT people or similar. You can doxx them, you can make an example out them. But even then, those methods are much, much harder to maintain and use than just knocking someone the fuck out in the parking lot.
The internet and internet communities like this are a dead end for organizing and discussing anything because the disrespect and the wreckers are tolerated in the name of "free speech".
The only way a platform like this could be salvaged is with extreme moderation oversight and a strong sense of curation by a team of humans.
>>2201533see these sorts of losers, these defeatists with nothing to contribute, if I was a mod this poster would be banned for 3 days and their post deleted. Multiply that by the entire site. Imagine the culture that would be created.
instead I'm stuck posting with the retarded cop from Scary Movie who jerks off with the vacuum
>>2201535you sound proto-hazite
and impotent, very impotent. try to romanticize something better than mentally ill hoarders
>>2201432none of those plans are even remotely valid until after America has been destroyed. America MUST be destroyed, this is the first and most important goal. Only AFTER you've destroyed America can you even consider building socialism.
The proof is in history, which none of you have ever read. There has not been even a single example of building socialism in the absence of a crisis that destroyed the government. That crisis is not going to happen on it's own, it's up to revolutionaries to MAKE it happen.
>>2201389Here's the Days of Rage.
>The Oct. 8-11 “invasion” of Chicago organized by the Weatherman faction of SDS – the one national action sponsored by the nation’s largest white radical organization all year – fell flat on its face.
>Aside from a few hundred hard-core Weathermen and supporters, the “kick-ass” action was a fiasco. Many of the demonstrations scheduled during the four-day antiwar protest failed to take place.
>The Weatherman “mass march” Oct. 11 attracted no more than 200 people. There were no “jailbreaks” or “wargasms” and the action by Weatherman’s women’s militia was stopped by police before it got off the ground.
>As many as eight people were wounded by police gunfire the first evening after the Weatherman group departed from Lincoln Park and began rampaging through the city, fighting police and breaking windows.
>Gov. Richard Ogilvie called up some 2600 National Guardsmen, but they mostly kept out of sight except for 150 soldiers who patrolled the streets during the “mass march.” The Guardsmen appeared to be strictly for show. Police managed to contain the demonstration with brutal precision.
>After four days, virtually the entire Weatherman group was in jail, some with serious injuries. One of the few Weatherman leaders still free said, however, that the action was a “victory.”
>Throughout the Weatherman action, RYM-2, a faction contending with Weatherman for leadership in SDS, conducted an alternate series of demonstrations in Chicago supported by the Black Panther party and the Young Lords. Better attended than the Weatherman actions, these demonstrations were minor in size compared to the strength SDS could call upon in better days. These disciplined protests were in marked contrast to the Weatherman street-gang approach.
>Weatherman and RYM-2 both developed out of the original Revolutionary Youth Movement (RYM) tendency in SDS last winter and spring. The groups split before the SDS convention in June but united at the convention on the issue of ousting Progressive Labor Party and its Worker-Student Alliance subsidiary from the organization. Weatherman, which controls the national office and many regional offices, is so named because of a position paper entitled, “You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows” (after a line by Bob Dylan), elaborating the group’s conception of “two, three, many Vietnams,” including a “Vietnam” within the U.S. behind enemy lines. RYM-2 added the numeral to distinguish itself from the original RYM.
>The Chicago antiwar protest was originally intended to be a mass national action, bringing tens of thousands to Chicago in support of the Vietnamese liberation struggle and the Conspiracy 8 case currently on trial in this city. Weatherman, as national leaders of the action, converted the protest into a “kick-ass, fight the pigs” demonstration which drastically limited the number of people who would participate to a few hundred Weatherman adherents.
>Movement organizations throughout Chicago sought to disassociate themselves from the Weatherman action. The Conspiracy 8 issued a statement announcing they were not connected with the protests. Fred Hampton, chairman of the Illinois Black Panther party, denounced the Weatherman group as “opportunistic, adventuristic and Custeristic,” speaking of the Oct. 8-11 confrontations as “revolutionary child’s play.” The Weatherman faction, he continued, was “leading people into a confrontation they are not prepared for.”
>The entire four-day demonstration was characterized by confusion and ill-planning, despite Weatherman’s paramilitary character. Actions were cancelled at the last moment, speakers issued contradictory statements, no literature or leaflets were distributed and the faction itself experienced internal dissention over what constituted effective militancy in the face of being vastly outnumbered and outmaneuvered by police.
>It’s not that Weatherman did not try to organize a mass demonstration. Up until shortly before Oct. 8, spokesmen predicted between 10 and 20 thousand would participate in the demonstrations leading up to the “mass march,” which was expected to attract “up to 50,000 people.” Weatherman groups have been trying to build support for Oct. 8-11 for months, staging “jail-breaks” in high schools in several cities to inspire white youth to join in “converting pig city into people’s city” and to create a “revolutionary white fighting force,” the nucleus of Weatherman’s “red army.”
>Two days before Weatherman’s Oct. 8 debut, a dynamite explosion destroyed a 10-foot statue of a policeman in Haymarket Square here where the “mass march” was to begin later in the week. The statue commemorated policemen who died during the 1886 Haymarket riot. The Weatherman group denied responsibility for the bombing.
>Hours before, the Weatherman memorial to Che Guevara and Nguyen Van Troi, the Vietnamese martyr, in Lincoln Park Oct. 8, the Young Lords – an organization of radical Latin youth – called a press conference to disavow connection with the Weatherman faction. Spokesmen from the Panthers and RYM-2 also spoke.
>It was evident from the very beginning in Lincoln Park, scene of the confrontations at the Democratic convention last year, that Weatherman was grossly incorrect in the estimated number of people who would join them. About 50 people were in the park shortly after 8 p.m. when the organized Weatherman contingent – 80-strong – marched in wearing an assortment of helmets, chanting “Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh, the NLF is gonna win.” They all gathered around a bonfire, a few hundred yards from about 100 policemen and reporters.
>“Long live the Vietcong,” someone shouted. “Right-on,” another replied. People began chanting, “The streets belong to the people.”
>The rally began. “We’re gonna tear up pig city U.S.A.,” the first speaker declared, addressing about 300 listeners, who cheered. “What we’re going to do in the next four days is to totally change what the U.S.A. means,” he continued, indicating “it’s already happened around the country in Pittsburgh and New York.”
>A second speaker denounced GIs, including antiwar GIs who presumably do not join the “red army.” “He’s got to join us or else he’s a pig.” Cheers.
>A woman spoke next. “We’ve shown that we women can fight. We went to Pittsburgh and they thought we would run, but we didn’t. We’re going out and bring the war home, right here in the heart of the mother country, Chicago. We’re going to tear the motherfucker up. We’re going to make communism around the world and destroy imperialism and we’re starting in Chicago, the biggest pig city.”
>The rally ended near 10:30 p.m. with the announcement that the group would depart for the Drake Hotel, residence of federal judge Julius Hoffman, presiding in the Conspiracy 8 case.
>Chanting, “Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh .. . ”the Weatherman group marched out of the park. Many carried clubs. The marchers, followed by police, plainclothesmen and reporters, veered down Clark St. toward Chicago’s, rich “Goldcoast” community, running through the streets breaking windows in buildings and cars. Although Weatherman leaders carefully instructed the group only to “hit the cars of the ruling class,” every car in the area was smashed. (“I guess they got carried away,” one Weatherman said later.)
>Most of the demonstrators held together until confronting an intersection with 10 riot cops forming a human barricade. The front of the march scattered, violating all norms of Weatherman “kick-ass” rhetoric, but many of the others remained for a bloody encounter, with injuries on both sides.
>The rest of the evening was a brawl, with the majority of the Weatherman group fighting hard and as well as could be expected. Police captured one youth who had thrown a brick apparently at random through an apartment window and proceeded to beat him brutally. “Kill ’em,” “kill ’em,” one of the cops was shouting. The youth managed to pull away one cop’s blackjack before several others beat him into unconsciousness.
>At another intersection, demonstrators beat up a taxi driver who left his car. On Wells St. two bystanders were attacked by the demonstrators.
>The worst clash occurred nearby when police opened fire with revolvers. John Van Veenendall, 22, was hit in the neck. Marshal Berzon, 22, was shot in the neck, chest and arm. He is reported in serious condition at the hospital. Elizabeth Gardener was shot in the left leg with shotgun pellets. All told, about 75 people were arrested that night, including 40 Weatherman members.
>The group returned to their “movement centers” after the action. The demonstration had taken a heavier toll than expected.
>For greater maneuverability and protection, the Weatherman group split into “affinity groups” of five to 15 people. An “affinity group” from Portland, Ore., went to Lincoln Park with seven people but returned with only two. Two of the women in the group had been badly beaten – one was in the hospital, one in jail. Two other men were in jail. One man was said to have been “missing in action.”
>At McCormick Seminary, where many Weathermen stayed the night, a debate ensued over the evening’s action. Two lines of thought emerged. One group said the action lacked leadership. The other said people failed to follow leadership – as when the front ranks broke at the first encounter. The leadership position was that people weren’t militant enough.https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-1/davidson-weather-2.htm >>2201527>>2201529All the government has to do is send in a Predator drone and all those tough guys will be vaporized in a second.
Not that it matters, because Appalachia is virtually all reactoids. They would be on the government's side in any insurrection.
>>2201544What crisis is going to destroy the federal government, then? Please, be specific.
>>2201544begging you to kill yourself today, right now
Find a rope, find a door knob, and make haste
>>2201546>Not that it matters, because Appalachia is virtually all reactoids. They would be on the government's side in any insurrection.confirmed to have never gone to the masses
need you to kill yourself too
>>2201547I think you should examine those feelings. Its probably unhealthy to feel so much reflexive hatred just because your ideas got questioned.
>>2201546>What crisis is going to destroy the federal government, then? Please, be specific.Why does the federal government need to be destroyed for socialism to be achieved? Or are you talking about America it self (I kind of assumed you were talking more globally)? In that case, there are more crises with historic examples that bring governments down. Hell, a mentally retarded president that is deeply unpopular and refuses to cede power is one such cases, but really, even something as simple as infrastructure breakdown due to decades of retarded policy would be enough.
>>2201552you are confusing strategy with tactics because you are intentionally uneducated and deeply unserious.
>>2201553internal tension is not and never has been enough, internal crisis will only lead to fascism, especially in a country with the class characteristics of america (settler-colonial majority) the only thing that can lead to socialism is an external crisis that destroys the government, which is what we have seen in every socialist revolution.
>>2201465"whats ur opinion on isreal?"
i think theyre assholes
"BAG EM AND TAG EM BOYS!"
>>2201546>All the government has to do is send in a Predator drone and all those tough guys will be vaporized in a second.Bro earlier in this thread you were telling me 65 leftists should be able to destroy America, why the hell would they fare any better than these hillbillies?
Honestly you remind me of MAGA communists in that your beliefs are so ridiculous I have to wonder if you're a fed or just totally out of touch with reality.
>>2201558I can somewhat agree to a point. Yes, an internal collapse would likely lead to a time of monsters, or in the least-horrific scenario a military junta. However its only such a time that could really provide the material basis for a revolution to arise and the naked hand of power is clearly seen to all.
Also I really don't see what settler-colonialist specific you would even see in US that wouldn't apply to any other failed state. Sure, Jeffersonianism was a poison to US, but that stage of development has long run its course, now being seen less in any social dynamics and more in the dysfunctionality of the end-state of the countries governing bodies.
>>2201560what's your opinion on isreal?
>uuuuh heil hitler?Sorry to bother you sir have a nice day
>>2201562A properly led and trained guerrilla movement wouldn't have any permanent bases that could be wiped out by the government's superior firepower.
You just don't understand tactics because you are intentionally miseducated. Please read Vom Kriege, one of the foundations of Leninism, and come back to me when you're finished.
>>2201564The vast majority of Americans are predisposed towards supporting fascism or reaction, not socialism. It's very obvious that none of you have even read the first chapter of the Communist Manifesto because if you had, you'd understand the reactionary class composition of America.
Any internal tensions will just lead to the state moving farther right, not being destroyed. Liberalism and Fascism are twins, Fascism would not destroy liberalism or the liberal superstructure, it would just repurpose it. A fascist America would be more aggressive and more imperialist than the liberal America is.
Therefore, America MUST be destroyed. This is the first step.
I know you're all literally retarded, but I do not mean every American must be killed, rather, the Federal Government MUST be utterly and totally destroyed, root and stem.
>>2201557HAHAHAHAHA THE FIRSTOID BELIEVES HIS LIFE IS SHITTY. Yeah you’re so oppressed with your 2000 dollar smart phones and air conditioning and endless commodities built on the blood and toil of the imperial periphery, poor widdle babies. I feel so sorry for you…NOT! No no little firstoid your life isn’t shitty, not yet anyway. Just know that when you’re laboring 12 hours a day in a gulag mining resources in the radioactive wastes of America to repay your debt to the third world you’ll look upon the times you complained about bank overdrafts with fondness.
And yes this goes to every other American who thinks he deserves socialism aka the redistribution of ill gotten gains to a slightly larger master race. Socialism is a privilege that you have long since discarded the right to
>>2201572>The vast majority of Americans are predisposed towards supporting fascism or reaction>Source: buzzfeed>but I do not mean every American must be killedSure bud
>>2201573Moralism
>>2201587>Not moralismMoralism
>>>2201573>You are unwilling to do anything to stop imperialism >And yes this goes to every other American who thinks he deserves socialism aka the redistribution of ill gotten gains to a slightly larger master race. >Socialism is a privilegeK
>>2201587Fantasyyyyyy, I want to meet you there…
You will see, fantasy can become reality…
Come with me! This is my fantasy…
I believe, fantasy can become reality….
Can you be… my fantasy…
>>2201594>Moralism >hard truthK
>Sorry but the real world doesn’t cater to your feelingsOk Ben Shapiro
>>2201606The army of the JDPON is never coming. It literally cannot.
You lack any understanding of military strategy, tactics or history. You are intentionally miseducated and think that makes you intelligent. I urge you, as Lenin did, to read Vom Kriege and then come back to me.
An invasion of the United States is a complete and utter impossibility. It is simply not possible to move that many troops that far across the vast oceans. It can be done as easily as eating the sun.
The only way America can be destroyed, and to be clear, America MUST be destroyed, is if we create the crisis ourselves. No foreign army can or will come and save us. We must organize our own army and destroy the state ourselves.
>>2201613I’m willing to be a kracker kapo
>>2201616You ever heard of Jose Maria Sison? He’s a guy who literally founded a people’s army that survives in the Philippines to this very day, he denounced those who would attempt to start anything looking like a protracted People’s War in the first world, there are virtually no base areas a people’s army could traverse through, no way to live off the land.
>>2201620>Americans are too cowardly and lazy and addicted to their quality of life to even contemplate thatThen you are doomed, aren’t you?
>The JDPON invasion isn’t going to start with a ground invasion but Russian and Chinese nukes, with support from additional nukes from the peripheryYeah. That’ll end well.
>>2201621I regularly work with ILPS and their affiliates, I am familiar with Sison.
I would agree with his take, which is why I am not proposing a protracted people's war. That is a Maoist tactic which works in countries that have a large peasant majority (such as China, Vietnam and the Phillipines) which would not and cannot work here.
However, that doesn't mean that you do nothing. You need a different strategy, and there are examples of successful revolutions in developed countries, namely the IRA in Ireland and Spear of the Nation in South Africa.
It's them you should be modelling your potential guerrilla movement after, not the NPA or PLA.
>>2201646Oh no no no ahahahaha you bought into WEF propaganda about muh nuclear winter ahahahaha
No the world isn’t going to explode and kill everyone because of some bombs, get over yourself
>>2201635Both of them defeated the occupier but lost their international support right as they were crossing the finish line, which didn't allow them to carry out the land and economic reforms necessary to build a socialist state.
Spear of the Nation, in particular, had a regular army which engaged in open combat with the SADF and won. The IRA successfully expelled British occupiers from entire sections of their country for decades, and then brought the British government to the table even after the fall of the USSR.
Victories are not always total, but both of these groups were victorious on the battlefield. They failed because the western "left" sat on their hands and did nothing to support them.
>>2201643Every second it exists, this government kills. It holds thousands of people in black sites around the world where it tortures them for decades straight and routinely murders civilians in the streets all across the world. It will not stop doing this unless YOU stop it.
However, you value your own life more than the lives of the millions and millions that this government chews up for profits. You are not a leftist or a revolutionary, you are an egoist. You want a better life FOR YOURSELF, fuck everyone else.
If you are not willing to die for this, then you are simply not cut out for life as a revolutionary. Put your books back on the shelf and go home. You are not one of us and you never will be.
Imagine how many Palestinians have lost their five year old nieces. Why does the life of yours matter more than theirs?
>>2201661Vom Kriege is still a foundational text for every military academy in the world, and there is a reason for this. It's not the last word on organizing an army, but it is absolutely still relevant for today. You should re-read the first section, in particular, and try to wrap your brain around it, because it is by far and away the most important. War and politics are the same thing. All political decisions should be made by considering their military implications, and vice versa. That is the real takeaway from Vom Kriege. You will never lead cavalry in the field, nor ford rivers with your combat engineers, but if you ever wake up and decide to do something, you will use the first section.
I bet the government has already placed sensor packages all through whatever innawoods locations in the US. If they don't, they could set it up easy. No way you can do some jungle camping like FARC and whatever. They've been employing these kind of sensors since Vietnam.
https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2021/october/dropping-turdsid-vietnam The Dropping of the TURDSID in Vietnam
>TURDSID is a small, battery-operated Seismic Intrusion Device (SID) consisting of a seismic detector (vibration sensor), a transmitter, an internal antenna, and a battery pack, all fit into a small rubber case disguised to look like the excrement of a dog. Because of their small size, battery life was no more than a few days. Its function was to cue a larger sensor nearby.
>The outer casing was a specially-designed plastic polymer designed to disguise the sensor as dog droppings. It takes no large amount of imagination to figure out how the "TURD" prefix originated. The sensors worked as designed, and the device quite effective, but with one major flaw: There were no dogs running wild along the Ho Chi Minh Trail.
>On learning this critical, overlooked, information, the sensor was hastily redesigned (at great expense) to look like a piece of wood.
>The story of the TURDSID reveals at least one very important lesson: There is no idea, however ingenious, nor any effort too expansive, to be undone by a small but overlooked reality.Jon Hoppe
>Jon Hoppe was the Digital Assets Administrator at the U.S. Naval Institute from 2015-2019. Before he started with USNI, he worked in historical research and archives. He has a background in art conservation from the University of Delaware and a Master of Library and Information Science degree from the University of Pittsburgh. You can visit his personal site at hoppejl.wordpress.com.Beware of suspicious dog shit.
>>2201681The weather underground also didn't actually DO shit. They shot at a few pigs and got killed and arrested. That is not what I am proposing, because that is not sound military strategy. The material basis of an army is not it's soldiers, but it's logistics and ability to supply itself. THAT is what matters.
And I have some news for you. Decades of neoliberalism means that 90% of the pentagon's equipment comes from single source contractors. This means that more often than not, individual factories supply ALL of the means of supplying the army. These factories cannot simply be replaced, it takes years to scale up production to meet the huge needs of a global hegemon. Just shooting the cops won't do you any good.
Destroying the only factory that can build JDAMs will.
>>2201675Despite their superior technology, the Vietnamese still defeated the US.
>>2201679Individuals are worthless. We don't need a lot of fighters, but we certainly need more than one. I can't do much by myself except scream at you impotent little babies and urge you to do literally anything at all.
>>2201302Bruh I'm reading this and my god, terminally online leftists truly have always existed
<Bob Avakian, from the Bay Area Revolutionary Union, argued that not only do white workers need those things for their survival, but that black people need them and want them, too. The several black people who Weatherman had brought to the meeting shouted, “Right on!” and waved their fists.<“If you can’t understand that white workers are being screwed too, that they are oppressed by capitalism before they are racists, then that just shows your class origins,” said Avakian.<Machtinger shot back: “When you try to defend honky workers who just want more privilege from imperialism, that shows your race origins.”Imagine being so out of touch that Bob Avakian is the voice of reason
>>2201685lmao it's like you nerds are in a competition to see who can post the most ignorant bullshit.
read literally any military theory, please, i am begging you.
>>2201689Why would anyone want to help you when you want 95% of the world to eat shit and die so you can have a full belly and more toys?
Why does your life matter more than the vast majority of humans living on earth?
The fact is, no one who asks these questions would ever help anyway. What you want is a fascist state with the definition of the "Volk" expanded to include you and your family. What I want is a world free of "people" like you.
>>2201693The most relevant here would be People's War, People's Army by Võ Nguyên Giáp.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/giap/works/1961/peoples-war-peoples-army/1961-pwpa.pdf >>2201702>When speaking of insurrection, V. Lenin stressed that - "uprising must rely upon the high tide of the revolutionary movement of the masses", and "not upon a conspiracy".Which is why all revolutionary LARP in America is so silly because if we had the masses, we wouldn't even need to fight.
>Universal suffrage is the equivalent of political power for the working class of England, where the proletariat forms the large majority of the population, where, in a long though underground civil war, it has gained a clear consciousness of its position as a class and where even the rural districts know no longer any peasants, but only landlords, industrial capitalists (farmers) and hired labourers. The carrying of universal suffrage in England would, therefore be a far more socialistic measure than anything which has been honoured with that name on the continent. Its inevitable result, here is the political supremacy of the working class. (emphasis in original)
>We have seen above, that the first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy.
>The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degrees, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total of productive forces as rapidly as possible.
>You know that the institutions, mores, and traditions of various countries must be taken into consideration, and we do not deny that there are countries – such as America, England, and if I were more familiar with your institutions, I would perhaps also add Holland – where the workers can attain their goal by peaceful means. This being the case, we must also recognize the fact that in most countries on the Continent the lever of our revolution must be force; it is force to which we must some day appeal in order to erect the rule of labor. >>2201699The thing about this sort of shit is that it's already been done before. Third worldism, Sakaism, and other variations of "white people/Americans aren't revolutionary so we shouldn't bother organizing them and just fuck stuff up" has been tried before, see gay Nazi's post about the Weathermen. Don't you realize that you're not making some bold innovation here? It's just the same lashing out that disaffected Western leftists have been peddling since the 60s.
>>2201702Lenin was obviously a labour aristocrat strasserist liberal fascist who just wanted more treats for the Russian workers and to oppress everybody else.
>>2201699>What I want is a world free of "people" like you. <So I sit all day on /leftypol/ posting insufferable nonsense instead of organizing in my communitylol
lmao, even
>>2201703Oh, yeah, and the state has access to guns and so none of the asymmetric fighters ever used guns, because their government had them
????
Are you fucking retarded?
>>2201702Giap's strategies will not work in a country with radically different material conditions such as America. The book was suggested because someone thought that America simply "got bored" rather than was defeated in Vietnam, which is demonstrably untrue if you understand how Maoist insurrection works.
>>2201706I've already been over this, you have no understanding of strategy or tactics, you just glom on to the example of the Weathermen because it's the only urban guerrilla movement your pea brain can think of.
>Lenin was obviously a labour aristocrat strasserist liberal fascist who just wanted more treats for the Russian workers and to oppress everybody else.Lenin wrote theory which worked for 19th century Russia. It is not 19th century anymore, and we are not in Russia.
>>2201709I know this might come as a shocker to a creature like you, but I have to work for a living and can't spend all day organizing. Do you know what that word means, "work"? Have you ever heard it before?
>>2201718>I've already been over this, you have no understanding of strategy or tacticsClearly you don't if you think that you can smash a social order and keep it from reasserting itself when you have no social base or popular support.
>you just glom on to the example of the Weathermen because it's the only urban guerrilla movement your pea brain can think ofNo I use the example of the Weathermen because you sound exactly like them, believe the same things, and propose the same solutions.
>>2201699You're deranged. Anything less than Americans being left to die regardless of class is apparently fascism to you. The mere idea that the working class exists in the first world, and that they might actually want communism, is so beyond you that you would sooner believe that Americans are ontologically evil and have to be destroyed by a conspiracy of a few hundred people who will somehow easily be able to do so if they just have the willpower apparently. I want nothing more than to end American imperialism and by extension turn the territory of America into a communist entity, but that's not enough for you for some reason.
The revolution will happen, but it'll be done in spite of people like you and not because of it.
>>2201720The goal is to force America to turn inwards and withdraw from it's position as global hegemon. This can be done by starving it of supplies through active sabotage of critical industries.
This is not at all the same thing that the Weather Underground proposed, nor what they actually did. Have you read anything about them besides what was posted here? Have you read ANY military science or theory?
No. You have not.
>>2201726Americans do not want communism. The fact that you believe that means you are so disconnected from reality that you are not worth responding to anymore. I would tell you to read more, but frankly I doubt it will do any good.
>>2201729Good thing that no one who's serious is proposing a Maoist insurgency in America, then.
You waffentwerps read Mao not for strategic purposes, but as a justification to continue to do nothing. The ancient tomes tell you that the time is not right, so all you can do is the same thing you always have, sit and do nothing.
All that even as the government rounds up leftists and immigrants and puts them in camps, so it's pretty clear that there is nothing that could possibly spur you to action.
Why do you continue to pretend? You're a lifestylist and an aesthete. Either that or you're a fed, trawling for more information.
>>2201728>Have you read ANY military science or theory?I was actually in the military, and I've read Mao, Che, Clausewitz, Caesar, Sun Tzu, etc. Has your bitch ass ever been tear gassed? Ever conducted a recce patrol? Ever thrown a grenade? Ever participated in a platoon attack? Do you know what getting shot at sounds like? I do. The current US military doctrine is based around being able to fight two wars against actual nations simultaneously, and in fact they've been fighting two proxy wars in Ukraine and Palestine for years now. If you think a few hundred to a few thousand internal guerillas doing random bombings on nonexistent industries (remember they're all in Mexico and China now) would be enough to collapse the US government you're sorely mistaken. Shit, groups like the ELN and New People's Army are far better equipped, trained, and organized than anything like this could ever be. They have thousands of fighters, base areas, and significant popular support in the areas where they operate. What's more is that they're fighting against deeply corrupt and often inept third world governments with a shaky grip on their own territory and populations, where there is no labour aristocracy and huge worker and peasant populations that live in desperate poverty. Yet despite this they *still* have failed to topple them after decades of fighting. If you think a tiny handful of insurgents operating in what you yourself admit is far more hostile conditions against a far more powerful enemy could succeed where they failed then you're delusional.
>>2201734>The ancient tomes tell you that the time is not right, so all you can do is the same thing you always have, sit and do nothing.I don't do nothing, I'm a member of a party, I'm active in the labour movement, I've participated in Palestine encampments and demonstrations, helped Indigenous people in occupations of disputed land, provided material support to striking workers, helped migrant labourers sue their bosses. How many bombs have you planted?
>>2201705>Which is why all revolutionary LARP in America is so silly because if we had the masses, we wouldn't even need to fight.Still, we need to work on organizing the masses.
>>2201718>I know this might come as a shocker to a creature like you, but I have to work for a living and can't spend all day organizing.So what, do you consider posting on /leftypol/ part of your job?
Yes, the American state is murderous, everyone agrees with you there, and more could probably be done to combat it.
But that's the thing. You do nothing to stop it like all the other people around you that you despise, aside from posting insufferable rants on /leftypol/. How does that make you any different?
>>2201737Why are you bragging about how you used to murder innocent people for Capital? Do you think that will impress me?
You are filth, less than the shit I walk on at the dog park. I would tell you to kill yourself but frankly your life is worth less than a bullet. You are too stupid to understand where the equipment to fight those wars comes from. Capitalists, as always, have formed monopolies and cartels. Most of the equipment that you used to murder innocent people for Lockheed's money comes from single factories.
The fact that you think military equipment is mostly made in China and Mexico is just proof of how utterly stupid you are, you have no understanding of military strategy or logistics at all. It's not your fault, now that you've told me that you were born so retarded that you actually joined the military, a lot more makes sense.
>I don't do nothing, I'm a member of a party, I'm active in the labour movement, I've participated in Palestine encampments and demonstrations, helped Indigenous people in occupations of disputed land, provided material support to striking workers, helped migrant labourers sue their bosses. How many bombs have you planted? You've chanted and shook sandwich boards at the bourgeoisie, who proceeded to do exactly what they planned on doing anyway. So you have done nothing. Congratulations. A person with your skills could do so much more, but then, a person would never join the US military in the first place.
>>2201742Ahh yes, Ukraine, where anywhere from 75-90% of the causalities come from drones.
You couldn't out yourself as being more ignorant if you tried.
>>2201745>Why are you bragging about how you used to murder innocent people for Capital?Because unlike you I actually have some idea of what these sort of operations require. Notice how your response is to not address the logistical or practical issues with your proposal in any way, but just to seethe about the fact that I have actual direct experience with stuff like this. Calm down dummy, I was never deployed and never shot anybody, but at least I took part in actual exercises and saw the level of planning, knowledge, and coordination it took to make them effective.
>The fact that you think military equipment is mostly made in China and Mexico is just proof of how utterly stupid you areI didn't say it was, I was talking about American industry more broadly. But you understand how heavily guarded those weapons facilities are right? How close do you think you can get to them? How could you possibly do enough damage to keep them out of commission for any period of time? Shit, during WW2 the British and Americans relentlessly bombed German factories with all the ordnance they could muster, and even then the Germans managed to maintain a huge standing army and wage total war for years. This would at most be a nuisance that could be handled by state police and the FBI, at most it might attract the attention of the national guard. There's no way you could ever tie down a significant number of US military personnel or meaningfully disrupt arms production.
>So you have done nothingHow many of these factories have you bombed?
>>2201755How could they exterminate the Vietnamese, exactly?
The fact that you are separating war and politics shows me that you are miseducated, probably intentionally, so I eagerly await whatever bizarre answer you have for this question.
>>2201757Drones are even more useful in a non-conventional war where the enemy has no air defense or electronic warfare. If you want proof of this, look at how IOF drones still prowl the skies of Lebanon and Gaza, killing with absolute impunity.
>>2201764Oh, so you joined the babykillers and didn't even get to kill any babies.
You know Giap had no military experience, right? Neither did Trotsky, or Mao, or Castro.
You played soldier for a while and thought it would impress me when all it's done is prove how you are both retarded and utterly amoral.
> But you understand how heavily guarded those weapons facilities are right?There is one in my town that produces over 15,000 separate NSNs and it's totally unguarded.
>>2201767>The fact that you are separating war and politics shows me that you are miseducated, probably intentionally, so I eagerly await whatever bizarre answer you have for this question. I'm doing the opposite. I'm explaining why the USA was fine leaving losing nothing more than they put into the operation because politically that was an acceptable outcome. I'm not trying to diminish the Viet Cong and their fight, they won a victory, but America didn't really suffer a "defeat." You have to know by now that the USA gets into wars just to get into wars as well. It's worth it for them to just blow shit up and kill people and destabilize regions.
Actually I would say either Vietnam was a victory, or was completely unnecessary because their reason for going in the first place was completely baseless, that Vietnam turning commie would start the dominoes, or they successfully stopped the dominoes.
>>2201767>There is one in my town that produces over 15,000 separate NSNs and it's totally unguarded.In that case I feel like organizing offline would be more effective. I doubt you're going to set up a cross-country network of professional revolutionaries through a public imageboard.
>>2201778>Once that happens actual military skills will suddenly become really important, too bad you don't have any.Real talk, how should I be preparing myself as a leftist? Because we clearly need to do something.
>>2201671you're an honest-to-god imbecile. Hydrogen bombs are hundreds of times more powerful than the atom bombs that were dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. this isn't just NATOid propaganda, there were multiple times that the USSR got a false alarm that it was under attack and chose not to counterattack in order to save lives and prevent the total destruction of the Earth. If the Soviets recognized this you should recognize this too.
>>2201670That Mao quote came during the 1950s only 10 years after Nagasaki and Hiroshima. The nuclear arsenals had not yet developed to their fullest extent and maybe the Great Helmsan was just bluffing and/or wasn't aware of the full capabilities yet. It was still fairly early in cold war history when he allegedly made that remark to a Yugoslav visitor. In such situations there is a strong incentive to appear strong and unafraid.
>>2201785
>Real talk, how should I be preparing myself as a leftist? Because we clearly need to do something.One nice thing about the military is that all their manuals are free and open source.
https://archive.org/details/military-manualsYou should learn to shoot, but moreover, you need to learn how to move. It's not enough to just read about this stuff, you have to go out and actually do it.
If you can afford it, you can get real tactical training which can go a long ways, but if you can't, books like these and practice with your friends is better than nothing.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3g-5oBYBB20eFBiWEVaYU9pV2s/view?resourcekey=0-kWXDSJ38lBTN5Gl8pDxwWg https://archive.org/details/milmanual-fm-100-5-operations/mode/2upGet a rifle, preferably an AR-15 in 5.56mm due to parts and magazine availability if you can and a 9mm pistol. Buy as many magazines for both as you can afford. Don't worry TOO much about the brand, as long as it's not the cheapest one you can find most of them are pretty good now. That's all you realistically need for guns. Buy the best optics you can for the rifle and as much ammo as you can afford, then train with both the rifle and pistol. Manuals like these are helpful:
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA544533.pdf https://irp.fas.org/doddir/army/tc3-23-35.pdf and you can find lots of instruction on youtube. You CAN teach yourself how to shoot, but training is readily available for this as well in both civilian (appleseed) and tactical styles.
Get some body armor if you can afford it. It's either going to be steel plates or ceramic. Steel is much cheaper, but also not as good. If you can afford it get ceramic, but if not steel is better than getting shot. On the topic of protective gear, try to assemble an AFAK (Advanced Individual First Aid Kid) or just buy a ready made one. These cover most of the typical battlefield traumas you'll run into, like getting shot or stabbed. Learn to use it if possible, but if not even having it available for someone else to use may save your life.
If you intend to be at a lot of protests, it might be worth investing in a police style shield and gas mask, too. The newer gas masks are much better fitting and also have cartridges still available. You can DIY it with a civilian respirator, and some of those even provide good protection, but something like this isnt much more expensive and offers better protection.
https://www.mirasafety.com/products/cm-6m-tactical-gas-maskAlso, try to stay in shape. Combat requires a lot of running and movement. Strength is a secondary concern to stamina.
>>2201826Stop larping.
>>2201828Get shotgun and rifle for self defense
>>2201832It's actually stupider than that.
They think that modern Jews are basically the same people as the Israelites from the Bible and that they're still God's chosen people, and because of that they're needed to fulfill Biblical prophecy instead of Christians. So, God likes the Jews so much, that they essentially are His people as far as Biblical prophecy is concerned, but will turn around at the last second and damn all His chosen people to Hell and instead ascend into Heaven with an entirely different group of people from an entirely different continent who weren't involved at all except for attending a worship-tainment megachurch and giving the Israelis money. That's not even getting into the fact that this is all effectively a denial of a ton of the central tenets of their religion, like the New Covenant.
Honestly, you could make these dumbasses believe anything so long as you assure them that God has ordained their car dealership. They barely qualify as Christians at all in any meaningful way other than just shouting PRAISE JESUS PRAISE THE LORD all the fucking time.
>>2201620>>2201648Based Analysis Comrades (My only critique of
>>2201620 , is that I believe that Russia will either be “Neutral” or outright Pro-U$ in World War III, which will basically be China, the DPRK, Iran and the remnants of its “Axis of Resistance” proxies, Pakistan, and the Leftist Latin American states of Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Bolivia, etc. versus the U$, the Zionist State, the GCC, Japan, South Korea, the ROC/“Taiwan”, Australia, India, and possibly Russia and a Right-wing populist controlled EU, with the resultant Global Nuclear War seeing the U$ Nuking China, China Nuking the U$, Japan, South Korea, India, and possibly Russia and Western Europe, India and Pakistan Nuking each other with Pakistan also Nuking the Zionists, the Zionists Nuking the entire Arab/Muslim World, etc.), ✊😜! As a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, I uphold the line of Mao Zedong that Global Nuclear War is a Historically Progressive event (“Nuclear Winter” is a Bourgeois Revisionist hoax cooked up by the U$ Imperialists and the Revisionist clique that destroyed the USSR, particularly Reagan and Gorbachev were the architects of the “Nuclear Winter’ myth) that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2201982>I need to be enlightened here bros: is the USA (and other nations such as Germany) really moving towards fascism?Yes, but also no. What they are all definitely heading towards is collapse. Their efforts at fascism (liberalism) have already succeeded and are merely attempting to make a return to hitlers very special brand of liberalism. They will fail as they do not own this narrative and have vastly overestimated their own capabilities to the point of self destruction.
>There is no leftThere is. It’s just that there are plenty of fools who think it only exists within organizations or electoral politics for some reason.
>>2201982I agree with Finkelstein. There is simply no justification for a radical fascist dictatorship in the US. What, Khamas? China? Iran? Russia? None of these actors posed actual threat to the US homeland much less the US bourgeoisie. Unless we enter a period of climate apocalypse nobody will be desperate enough to submit to God Emperor Trump much less his negative rizz oprichniks like Hegseth or JD Vance
Most likely the coming reactionary regime in the US will look more like the Napoleon III or Putinist regime, a ramshackle cult of grifters that is always on the verge of tumbling down the moment actual hardship hits
>>2202006 cringe
>>2202017also cringe
>>2202053De facto you agree with me
>>2202006 so I'm not mad
>>2202070in Wisconsin he's trying to get rid of the law that requires car manufacturers to go through a dealership to sell cars to customers
probably the only time ive rooted for Musk cuz that law fucking sucks and it's gonna be necessary if Trump wants american car companies to take back market share
>>2202138Or she's just lying about it.
Remember that to zionists, anti-semitism is something hardwired and baked in to everyone else.
>>2202123is this a deliberate look?
>>2202001Estimated death tolls for political violence during Apartheid are 21,000 between 1946 and 1990 with an additional 14,000 during the transition period between 1990 and 1994.
Israel has killed at least 50,000 Palestinians since Oct. 7 alone.
>>2202208Mellon seldom speaks to the press and appears to have little interest in hobnobbing with the politicians to whom he donates. Even though he’s dispensed huge sums of money to political groups and politicians, many have never met him. And during the 2020 election, Republican staffers had to search him on Google to find out who he was when he reached out with the offer of a major donation, according to the New York Times.
Mellon did not respond to requests made through his family’s foundation. Other efforts to reach him were unsuccessful, including queries to publisher he worked with. A lawyer who worked with him in the past said he doesn’t represent him anymore.
In a rare interview from 2020, Mellon told Bloomberg he believed Trump had delivered on what he’d said on the stump.
“He’s done the things he promised to, or tried to do the things he’s promised to…in trade and righting the balance between our country and the rest of the world, especially China,” Mellon said.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Mellon >>2201891>Like mao say, sooner amerikkka start ww3 then the sooner exploiters wiped from earth. I rarely respond to your glowposts, anon. But the point was to take an analytical attitude while also steeling people for struggle. So, like yeah, if the Americans dropped nuclear bombs then that's because they're really losing control, but he wasn't calling for people to sit around with their thumbs up their asses while getting nuked. It's necessary to see both the difficulties and the bright future which form two aspects of a single process. You have to analyze the tactical difficulties and problems in reality right now without losing sight of the bright future which can only be won through effort and overcoming difficulties.
Or like in a war, Mao's thing (or how I read them) was to hold the enemy in contempt in terms of the larger picture. After all, China never attacked anyone, it was Japan (etc.) who invaded China which would bring out the wrath of the Chinese to drive them out. But that would not happen without a lot of battles, and in each battle down to storming a hilltop and killing the bad guys on it, you have to plan it out and take it seriously and focus your attention on it. It's like eating dinner. Doesn't sound like a huge challenge! Strategically, you know you can finish it. But actually we eat it mouthful by mouthful. Each time you take a bite, you can't talk. You gotta focus otherwise you might choke on it.
Maybe someone will find this helpful or interesting.
>>2202279>I still can't believe that the US government group chat got leaked like in the memesI’ve been waiting for this for weeks. I knew it was going to happen.
>Maybe mankind isn't ready to be more than shit-picking peasants if that's the level of care the supposed head glowies give to technology.You are talking about the head glowies, not mankind as a whole. Reminder that these are the worst of the worst. Privileged scum whose ways are both alien and pathetic to the majority of the species. They are not representative of the average person.
>>2201982Yes, the U$ is rapidly transitioning towards Fascism under the Christian Zionist MAGAtard Trump dynasty/regime, and Norman Finkelstein should stick to analyzing the Zionist-Palestine conflict and other Jewish topics (his Holocaust industry book is really good), because outside of that topic, his analysis is average at bast, 😂🤣🤢🤮! My Dialectical Materialist Analysis proposes that the true Material reason for why the U$ Haute Bourgeoise is ripping off the mask of “Liberal Bourgeois Democracy” in favor of the true Fascist face of unvarnished Bourgeois Dictatorship, is not due to either a “Strong Left” (just because the White settler petit-bourgeois/labor aristocrat shock Christian Zionist Evangelical Mass Base of the Republican Party believe Democrats, the Income Tax, LGBTQIA+ outside of the closet, Black People in commercials, Women in the workforce, etc. are Marxism dose not mean the Haute-Bourgeoise is that stupid, with the caveat that they happily promote this delusion, as they fund/control both the Republicans and the Democrats, with the former being their preferred Ruling/Dominant Party that will implement their preferred economic/cultural/foreign policies and the latter being the weak “Controlled Opposition” to keep the undesirable Proles, Oppressed Nations/Internal Colonies of New Afrika/Aztlan/First Nations, LGBTQIA+, Feminists, and the anemic U$ Left neutered/corralled) or even rising Inter-Imperialist conflict (as much as our Dengist friends refuse to admit it, China was perfectly fine being the global Factory for U$ corporations before Trump started the Trade Wars and military buildup in East Asia which forced them to abandon the G2 arrangement in favor of their own massive Military buildup and attempt to secure their supply chains in the “Belt and Road”, with the latter dependent on Russia not backstabbing them, which grows more likely by the day as they openly embrace an alliance with the Trumpist U$), but instead something completely different that directly affects the Proletariats relationship with the Capitalist Mode of Production, the “4th Industrial Revolution” of AI/Machine Learning, E-Commerce, 3D priming, Autonomous Vehicles, advanced Robotics, etc. Automating most of the Workforce over the next several Decades (most estimates say ~50% of the Workforce will be made redundant by 2050, with this probably reaching over 90% by 2100), with this shift towards Fascism designed to stop the replaced/redundant Proletariat from demanding a UBI by eliminating the Bourgeois Liberal Democracy that will no longer benefit the Haute Bourgeoise once large sections of the workfoce are Automated, meaning that they will have to enact permanent Martial Law to prevent the now Lumpenized Proles from revolting, with much of the ideological theory behind this plan laid out by Curtis Yarvin in his “Patchwork” vision where the Haute Bourgeoise will outright take over the Government, suspend all elections (the controlled opposition “Democrats” will happily agree with this proposal for permanent Republican rule when the time comes for “National security” reason to defend against Chinese/Russian/Iranian “propaganda”), and create a High-Tech network of Police States that will corral the lumpenized/redundant Proles in de-facto Prison cities to be utilized as Slave labor for the few things that can’t be Automated yet, and when this is no longer useful to be, as Curtis Yarvin so eloquently states “turned into Biofeul” or have their neighborhoods/cities “Firebombed” like Gaza, with this possibly being the true reason that the U$ Haute Bourgeoise is accelerating Inter-Imperialist conflict of the “New Cold War” by launching a “Pivot to Asia” military buildup against China along with doing a 180 on Globalization/Free Trade by launching a massive Trade War against China designed to crash their economy and lure them into invading Taiwan, which will be the casus belli for World War III against China, with this designed to escalate into a Global Nuclear War that the Haute Bourgeoisie believe they will survive in their High-Tech bunkers with Transhumanist technology while all the redundant Proles are slaughtered, however what they fail to realize is that this will dramatically backfire on them, as the Global Nuclear War will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2202123All of them had nice eyes but they got that surgery to make them squinty
Why?
>>2202403So what, just form my own?
>>2202406Are people getting dumber or are you just not funny?
>>2202438Starting your own union is easy. Begin by getting huge loan from bank. Navigating legal framework of shining star of free world is seamless. Begin by perusing national labor relation act
https://www.nlrb.gov/guidance/key-reference-materials/national-labor-relations-act . You need only study and abide by 80 years of texts with some pepperings of supreme court rulings. At will employment is a myth. When you convince 30 percent of employee to unionize, then the NLRB will schedule an elekkktion very quickly in 18 months. Multi-billion union busting industry. Now youre unionized and you can begin bargaining with employer in good faith in accordance to NLRB national labor relation act.
>>2202351Libs are clowning on Hegseth for being HECKIN IRRESPONSIBLE but never mention that he was literally a commander at Gitmo and then volunteered for a combat deployment in Iraq with a death squad so bad they were convicted in US courts.
Mostly because they know that the whole GWOT was as much their baby as Bush's, and they have fully internalized the fact that our government is a murderous enterprise that mostly exists to turn the blood of the third world into gold for the shareholders.
>>2202610why do you believe this? posts here feel like a third being people being paid to post, one third truly too stupid to know how to read, and one third posting the news.
>>2202627answer why there was a split
>>2202627it is the other way around, the 2 hazite schizos that used that site moved here last year and have been shitting up this place with the idle complacency of moderators (who, btw, paid for 4chan ads). leftychan is 2 right wingers that also post here, and this place is those 2 guys + 4chan nazis
I could tell you were the real people went but that place is good precisely because you aren't there
>>2202650I don't know about that, it's all relative and hard to put an absolute number on them.
Both of them are bad in their own ways.
>>2202148>is this a deliberate look?I'd guess so. It feels like a trashy dollup routine where women and their surgeons regress thirty years of cosmetics development and paste "sex appeal" over the scale of youth they purportedly intend to reverse. So they end up looking like leathery, middle aged,second grade porn actresses hiding their real identity behind a plaster thick layer of makeup.
One can only hope they complete the look and get those horrid balloon-like breasts implants. Those recurrent lip filler treatments that leave the mouth looking like blow up doll's if you keep going and all fucked up even worse if you stop.
Some thought that conservatives wanted to see women present as tradwives. But what they actually want is the women in their father's trashiest porno stash.
>>2202310>I wonder why they didn't portray the cop with a ski maskbecause plainclothes pigs need to be shown as brave rather than trying to hide their identity which is something only antifa terrorists do
btw semi-related, i don't know how burgers reconcile "stand your ground" laws where you're allowed to defend yourself in your domicile if you perceive that you're being attacked with "no knock raids" where plainclothes cops in disguises can just pick your locks and kick your doors down, guns blazing. You're not allowed to kill pigs with a warrant, but if they no knock raid you in plain clothes you're supposed to
just believe them when they say they're pigs? doesn't that give every criminal a license to kill you unopposed as long as they pretend to be pigs first? how is a person in practice supposed to distinguish between cops with a warrant doing a no knock raid and murderburglars pretending to be cops doing a no knock raid?
>>2200702It's not bad to not think about Trans people constantly. It is bad to say that the only reason they're trans is because they were tricked into it by big pharma*. They are the minority that's being targeted most openly now, and as such, they need support. If organising is about meeting people where they're at, why is it so hard to say "yeah, allowing schools to check kids genitals to make sure no penises are sneaking into the girls' 100m sprint is wrong"?
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and it's only a few steps from blaming big pharma to blaming the Jews, tbqh >>2202200other countries stopped fluoridating water and nothing discernably happened, positive or negative.
Water flouridation is based on 19th century "science" that people near a fluoride-laced lake had surprisingly good teeth at the time, so they chalked it up to the fluoride.
>>2202470The only way to save your kids is to never give birth to them nowadays.
>>2203050Doeant most groundwater have mineral deposits anyway?
If anything, I think most brain damage from fluoride may be from natural deposits even back in the old days.
>>2200606>Muh zoomies are reactionary
<We are not heckin idpol tards, you're just imagining thingsLeftyPol proving that they don't go outside
>>2200611Methinks this was intentional
>>2200621Presidents are mere distractions.
At least Obama knows how to be a civilised puppet. I'd have him back just because I'm tired of hearing about Trump.
>>2203041Schools need to have third-gender facilities.
If we can spend millions of dollars on new tech, why not renovations for schools?
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