/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2241186
There is so much anti consumer propaganda blaming the individual consumer for sins of the bourgeosie. Uygha, i am not the one stealing yout surplus value or whateverthoughbeit

>>2241186
Yeah, plus burgers equals pawgs.

>>2241186
>>2241192
Its just 2000 years of ingrained christian morality basically earth bad heaven good

>>2241186
I think the term Treatlerite has vastly escaped its original connotation which was that of people hawkishly watching their burrito taxis and posting rants about how the gig slaves slightly messed up their order or how they can't boycott something because they have xyz disorder that means they can only eat 1 brand of treats

Now it's just a catchall for liking slop which NO american is free of and it just muddies the water

>>2241316
Thank you for reminding us of the original, NUANCED meaning of the word

>>2241316
>I think the term Treatlerite has vastly escaped its original connotation which was that of people hawkishly watching their burrito taxis and posting rants about how the gig slaves slightly messed up their order or how they can't boycott something because they have xyz disorder that means they can only eat 1 brand of treats
yes
>Now it's just a catchall for liking slop which NO american is free of and it just muddies the water
Exactly. Is it treatlerism if I pirate a TV show and therefore do not pay the capitalist firm who produced it? Is it treatlerism if I keep the same jailbroken smartphone for nearly 10 years?

>>2241320
>>2241316
I've seen it used as "your standard of living is at least a little bit above that of the average broke prole in the global south" or "you aren't 5$ away from homelessness"

>>2241324
Behead everyone with more than $30 in their pocket

>>2241316
Rereading this and thinking to when I've seen the term used it's also applicable (although not originally intended) to people whose politics are focused on lowering prices of commodities and treats in general, which I think is related to the term's shift

>>2241326
I have only my card so fine by me

>>2241186
>treatlerites
Can someone translate this latest shitty meme?

>>2241338
Hitlerite + treats = treatlerites

>>2241338
The sensible definition is a particular subgroup of middle-class people who spend their time buying non-essential consumer goods like figures, funko pops, grubhub etc AND AT THE SAME TIME bitch and whine about the ultra-exploited workers whenever they don't provide top of the line luxury service.
The retarded meaning is someone (non-PoC✨) who isn't on the brink of starvation and complaining about their worsening situation, and therefore literally hitler

>>2241341
Something to do with rightoid consumerism?

>>2241350
Im quite ascetic but I dont give a shit about someone consuming this or this product. We have bigger problems to solve that cant be solved by buying or not buying products.

There is no ethical consumption under McDonald's

>>2241316
<I think the term Treatlerite has vastly escaped its original connotation which was that of people hawkishly watching their burrito taxis and posting rants about how the gig slaves slightly messed up their order or how they can't boycott something because they have xyz disorder that means they can only eat 1 brand of treats
so a treatlerite is just a slightly more woke "Karen"?

I just hate treatlers because I worked at KFC and it was constantly and horribly busy, with the corperate fucks constantly playcating them with rotating bullshit. I don't care about the Marxist angel, I just hate them. Americans need to eat less meat, use less electric, and drive fewer places.

>>2241196
More fat bitches easier targets for sex

>>2241396
BMI isn't the reason you're not getting laid

>>2241397
Take the plapPill

>>2241409
The PlapPill is antimaterialist and revisionist. It's also sexist as it promotes bad health as a gender role.

>>2241417

Yes, however: pussy.

What's the plapill ?

>>2241515
It's the 4chan term for sex with fat women

>>2241657
Maybe guys should take the plapill look how healthy that anon at the computer looks

>>2241662
He's a former (now spiritual) incel who got in shape, but could only attract an obese diabetic with severe hormonal imbalances. He now has a gf, but was it worth it?

>>2241671
What if he got buff from lifting his heifer and trying to plap through her enormous flaps.

>>2241379
Basically

>>2241338
>Can someone translate this latest shitty meme?
It's a bunch of rich podcasters living in luxury apartments in gentrified neighborhoods and their fans telling poor people and workers that they deserve to suffer. That even though they're drowning in high rent and medical bills, they should live with less and eat gruel in an act of repentance because of the spiritual blood guilt they carry because they have an iPhone. That they don't deserve any single small moment of happiness. It's typical petit-bougeois politics.

>>2241292
People Before Hevean!

>>2241354
the meme goes like this: first worlders (especially americans) get cheap commodities due to dollar hegemony despite being deindustrialized therefore they are no longer proles, but petty bourgeois consumers, and this is reflected in their politics therefore they are treatlerites

>>2241850
>their fans telling poor people and workers that they deserve to suffer.
Why not just call it petit porky at this point. Servants are dumb and shit and deserve to treated like shit.

>I love everything about this system but I also want to overthrow it
How are you going to be some radical revolutionary if you don't stubbornly reject the prime tool they use to placate the working class? It's the same stupid thing that "anti-theory" anarchists do where they reject any analysis and just want to posture by giving out some sandwiches and going to popular strikes for a weekend. It's lifestylism.

consoomers are bourgeois

>>2241963
>>2242255
I'm not an adventurist Anon. Burgers have nothing to do with organizing the working class.

>>2241186
>Consumption is not a labor issue.
It is. For example society can produce means of subsistence (essential commodities needed for survival like food, water, shelter, clean air, etc.), means of production (machines and tools), or nonessential commodities (think video games, sports cars, gold watches, fancy suits, etc.).

The more means of production society produces, the cheaper the means of subsistence gets. The more advanced the means of production becomes, the cheaper subsistence gets. In capitalist society we have such advanced means of production that the means of subsistence are cheaper than ever. In fact they are so cheap that capitalists have to contrive ways to make them more expensive: Artificial scarcity. This can come in the forms of hoarding surplus means of subsistence, deliberate destruction of means of subsistence (or the means of production that make them, or making a large portion of the working class produce nonessential goods instead of essential goods so that the supply of essential goods stays artificially low, and therefore the price stays high artificially high. The capitalist class uses all of these strategies, and this has been commented upon many times, and not just by the left.

The consumption of nonessential commodities justifies and incentivizes the further creation of nonessential commodities, which draws more and more of the proletariat away from the production of essential commodities, which keeps the prices of those essentials artificially high, which consequently keeps proletarian wages at or below subsistence levels. Additionally, even the nonessential luxury commodities are kept artificially scarce through the same strategies that essential commodities are kept artificially scarce, including planned obsolescence and "gradual enshittification", which is particularly egregious and effective when it comes to software commodities.

>>2243773
Production stilmulates consumption, though

>>2243826
Summarize the post you are responding to.

>Consumption is not a labor issue.
Wrong. All unproductive members of society subsist off the producers. Marx says so.
<If the wages of the factory or agricultural labourer are 500 francs, and the surplus-value (profit and rent) created by him is equal to 40 per cent, his net product would be 200 francs, and five such labourers would be required to produce the wages of 1,000 francs for the servant. If instead of the servant Lord Exchange cared to buy a mistress for 10,000 francs annually, the net product of 50 such productive labourers would be required.

>>2243832
Consumption of nonessential stuff is le bad. Consumer bad. Consumer responsible for production of non essential stuff.

>>2243862
AmeriKKKan general rate of profit is 8.54%.
https://www.venasolutions.com/blog/average-profit-margin-by-industry
Median annual wage is $61,984 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881500Q
Taylor Swift 400 million yearly income 2024 https://time.com/7050535/taylor-swift-net-worth-estimations-billionaire/
0.0854 × 61,984 = $5,293
$400,000,000/$5,293
The total product of 75,589 full-time producers is squandered to sustain Taylor Swift alone, not counting the rest of the circus. 157.2 million productive labor hours per year.

>>2243848
…and that isn't an issue, much less a labor one

>>2243943
Wrong. Parasitism of labor is primary issue

>>2243773
> The consumption of nonessential commodities justifies and incentivizes the further creation of nonessential commodities, which draws more and more of the proletariat away from the production of essential commodities, which keeps the prices of those essentials artificially high, which consequently keeps proletarian wages at or below subsistence levels.
This is bullshit, production of "essential" items has never been contrained by reducing the supply of labor, but by the production cratering the prices resulting in monopolization in turn. Your blaming of "non-essential" items is nonsensical

>>2243946
Never has been, for production is impossible/less efficient without so called "unproductive" labor

>>2241186
Setting aside the drifting meaning of "treatlerite", there's no rule that says communists aren't allowed to make fun of you for wasting your money on slop. The fact that doing so has nothing to do with communism is irrelevant: posting on /leftypol/ has nothing to do with communism either.

>>2243773
Artificial scarcity is a monopoly rent issue. Workers should organize tenant unions and burger unions to bargain for cheaper treats.

>>2243947
agreed, we cannot blame it on the treats

>>2241186
Slop only exists because it is profitable. There are plenty of countries where they don't eat garbage food

usanians when confronted with the prospect of no more burger

>>2244676
It's all slop no; not just the burgers.
/leftypol/, media, technology, etc.

>>2241186
>There is no ethical way to spend ill-gotten gains

I think saving up money and not being a debt slave due to alienation driving you to consoom unecesary shit is better actually.

you work because you have no other choice, the system coerces you, if you stop working you go homeless, you can't just say "I don't buy into the propaganda of work" and keep going with your life, you need some dollars to pay for food and rent.

overconsuming on the other hand IS a choice, you can opt out of it, you can see through the ads if you have some critical thinking, you can choose to not buy the retarded trinket that will not bring you fullfillment, you can make choices in your diet, you can choose to not participate in the celebration of capitalism.

>>2241671
>but was it worth it?
I love fat chicks with "hormonal imbalances" (which usually give huuuuge titties), so yes.

>>2244691
Bourgeois individualism. Also being a miser.

>>2241379
I think it's a little more political than that in that it referred to people who would support nuking a country if it meant a 10% decrease in slop prices.

>>2247083
is saying "you have a choice in this matter" Bourgeois individualism?

>>2241186
Imagine for a minute people stop buying Iphones and just buy cheap or reasonably priced android phones, is that not praxis?

>>2277529
Unfortunately, playing these kinds of bullshit status games is necessary for advancement in the job market. Do prefer to buy cheap knockoffs though. There's not really any cheap knockoffs for Apple though.

>>2245036
hormonal imabalances meaning too much testosterone and other hormones causing fibroids, extra painful irregular periods and fertility issues. There is a level of obesity where females just stop having periods in general. retard coomer.