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>>2252517>>2278730fuck yourself fag and fuck anyone who call this a false flag.
zios fucking deserve it, and 2A rights should now be used NOW!!!
>Jenny Havemann, who lives in the town of Ra'anana in Israel, knew Yaron when they were both part of a group of young German-Israelis who met regularly to promote good relations between the two countries.>Yaron reportedly held a German passport.>Jenny describes him as "super super nice, modest, calm and friendly." "Yaron was part of a Christian Zionist group and he was very into bringing Germans and Israelis together," she says.>Another friend, Ronen Shoval, met Yaron at an adult education centre in Jerusalem.>Yaron was "a very polite man with a good character, and inspiring," he says.>"He wanted to learn all the time." Shoval adds that Yaron was "a very devout Christian" who moved to Israel from Germany.>"Many people wanted to understand his background. He was a serious Christian believer," he says.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cy9vr10n732t >>2278771what happened?
disavowing shooters is cringe regardless
>>2278754>>2278782This guy? Pro Gaza? Silly.
>>2278783The manifesto is legit.
>>2278784Two Israeli embassy staffers got shot by what appears to possibly be a trot
AOCia comes out in support of the CHRISTIAN Zionist and calls the attack antisemitic. It's not that AOC is spineless, she's a full blown imperialist war hawk Nancy pelosi 2.
>>2278784If you know even a bit about the history of leftism in the US then you know how much danger this shooter has put on the PSL.
STFU kindly
>>2278835>Houthis have no idea who they are missing withLol, lmfao, rofl even.
Not only was he Zioscum, but he was incredibly retarded on top of that.
>>2278845oh no we were so close to winning before
>>2278837we're not sending our best
>>2278845>this place is (allegedly) infested with langley agents wasting millions of dollars of agency salaries on a time sink>somehow this has to do with a dumb decision a trot made in real lifeget a comprehensible narrative
> anti-imperialism is tainted with the association with terrorism, they always tried to paint one as the other.
> the deep state has the excuse it needs to take back the reigns of power and reassert NATO hegemonydid they really need an excuse? 9/11 killed thousands of people and was only 23.5 years ago.
>save NATO and USAID and Hoholistan.nobody says this. also nobody thinks the ukrainian state ("holholistan" a racist name you made up) is the victim, the actual people in ukraine are. and yes they are victims of NATO getting forcibly drafted for no good reason in a proxy war against russia.
>>2278861Why would I be against the United States willingly dismantling its own imperialist structure and consolidating its sphere of influence?
<b-but Trump saidI don’t care. At worst Trump is a based retard who is unwittingly ending imperialism through his strategic geopolitical realignments, which does more for Palestinians than any impotent college occupation ever did
>>2278866>The deep state is fighting for its life against MAGA and desperately trying to prevent America’s alignment with multipolarity.Oh, so you're mentally retarded then.
Carrying on now.
>>2278866>As if this place doesn’t regularly get misty eyed over muh poor two spirit LGBTQ polyculesI barely see talk about queer shit on here especially since Shay stopped posting.
>The deep state is fighting for its life against MAGA and desperately trying to prevent America’s alignment with multipolarity.Are you fucking stupid? There's not a grand internal struggle within the American government between MAGA and liberals. It's all performative politic and flaccid resistance. You can easily see so with liberals actions bending the knee and allowing MAGA do whatever policy they want. America's policy regardless of whos running the show is to preserve it's hegemony. Not to kow tow to a multipolarity or even be accepting to a detente with China.
>>2278852>They literally killed MLK because he started talking about capitalism. He was a reformist that talked about radical distribution.
>black panthers were Marxist Leninists.Thank you for confirming that they were petty bourgois reactionaries
>>2278955I understand the concern, but it's highly unlikely that he browsed these corners of the left.
Hasan and the PSL probably have a lot more to worry about, with the former being unwillingly tied to this act of violence by the corporate media for being one of the most prominent pro-Palestine voices and the latter now having to worry about active fed harassment due to the likelihood of the shooter being involved with them once before.
>>2278962>>2278961>>2278955>>2278952Wrong
Shooting two zionists is proletarian and bot is bourgeoisie
>>2278969Wrong. Killing zionists is prole's any take
Malcolm X was Communist
Man stipped naked, beaten with poles after saying uyghur in a Mississippi bar.
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fox13memphis.com%2Fnews%2Fman-attacked-after-walking-into-mississippi-bar-and-using-racial-slur-police-say%2Farticle_33d95bce-f26a-4284-85d4-161c04c692a8.html%3Futm_campaign%3Dsnd-autopilotAccording to police, the attack happened at C.J. Lounge in Marshall County. Police said the man walked into the venue and started using the "N-word" when referring to patrons.
Officers told FOX13 that the man went to the hospital Wednesday, believing he may have a broken jaw. The incident happened late Saturday night. Police are trying to determine if the attack is a hate crime.
Holly Springs Police provided cell phone footage to FOX13, showing a Tippah County man who had been stripped naked. Police said the people who attacked him are seen pouring beer on him in the video. Seconds before that happened, police said the man was kicked and stomped on nearly every part of his body.
"The guy walked in, and he was very aggressive," said Miles Stone. Stone said he was at the club on Memphis Street late Saturday night when the incident happened. "Other guys in the area were listening, trying to remain calm. They asked him to leave quietly."
>>2279161>influential black woman political commentator unironically using the phrase "fake and gay"Jesus christ I hate this mainstreamed 4channified culture so much.
The rest is whatever, she's a reactard
>>2279180>proletarian organization is when random individuals do unorganized murders against other randomsHow many more impotent political acts must happen before retards realize DotP doesn't work
(Communists realized this centuries ago already!)
>>2278771PSL ZIOrat party THEY SHOULD HAVE BLAMED THE ZOG GOVERNMENT BUT THEY BLAME THE PROLETARIAN WHO SENT ZIONISTS TO HELL???
>>2278784YOU ARE ZIONIST.
>>2279182>DotP doesn't workWrong. sending zionists to hell works. look at all of the new federal agents we have posting in thread, saying zionoists cannot be sent to hell because cheeto man will cut more grants or dismantle useless zionist psl party
>>2279212i want zionists shot
>BUT WHAT WILL THIS ACHIEVE??i already told you what i want
>>2278988>the genocide will stopThe genocide is done.
inb4 "BUT THEY LOOK BAD AFTER DOING IT!"
>>2279255Yes but in a good sense, because those two were oppressors.
Free Palestine with nuclear weapons!>>2279255
>>2279255>Two Jews were shot by aman who screamed "Free free Palestine!"
weren't they both christians ?
>>2279245>>2279279>yaron lichinsky<German ChristianI knew something wasn't adding up.
>Yaron Lischinsky
>Lischinsky, who was born in Nuremberg, Germany, was a Christian, and a "true lover of Israel" who "chose to dedicate his life to the State of Israel and the Zionist cause," Prosor said on X.
>The son of a Jewish father and a Christian-Evangelist mother, Lischinsky left Germany and came to Israel with his brother when he was 16 years old, according to Ronen Shoval, the head of the Argaman Institute for Conservative Studies in Jerusalem – where Lischinsky attended an advanced program. In his LinkedIn profile, Lischinsky wrote he had the "privilege of calling both Jerusalem and Nuremberg my home."
>"He was a man of faith, he took his Christian faith seriously. He was asking the big questions of life, and saw himself as someone who wants to be part of the story of the Jewish people," Shoval told ABC News. >>2279297a christian monk of jewish descent attempted to immigrate there, but he was refused because he did not practice judaism. he appealed, but the Supreme Court refused.
you can move there as an atheist jew. but if you happen to believe Jesus was a messiah or Muhammed a prophet, then you cannot get the Israeli citizenship through the law of return
>The Israeli government denied Rufeisen's request on the grounds that he had converted to Christianity. Rufeisen appealed the case to the Supreme Court of Israel. His lawyer argued that by denying Rufeisen the right to immigrate Israel would cast itself as a theocracy in which national affiliation is equated with religion.[7] In 1962, the Supreme Court upheld the government's decision: any Jew converting to another religion would forfeit their preferential access to Israeli citizenship >>2279291The CPUSA is an organ of the DNC and has been for some time, but what do you expect? No organization is going to endorse this because doing so would be suicide.
The official position for orgs should be "neither condemn nor condone," if not outright condemnation. It's not even a lie, individual acts of violence are not going to move us closer to revolution.
<Harvard University Loses Student and Exchange Visitor Program Certification for Pro-Terrorist Conducthttps://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/05/22/harvard-university-loses-student-and-exchange-visitor-program-certification-pro>“This administration is holding Harvard accountable for fostering violence, antisemitism, and coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party on its campus,” said Secretary Noem. “It is a privilege, not a right, for universities to enroll foreign students and benefit from their higher tuition payments to help pad their multibillion-dollar endowments. Harvard had plenty of opportunity to do the right thing. It refused. They have lost their Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification as a result of their failure to adhere to the law. Let this serve as a warning to all universities and academic institutions across the country.”So Trump is hellbent on destroying all of America's soft power huh?
If you thought America was third world before…
>uspol thread>no mentions of the "Big Beautiful bill" that just passed the House that would impose cuts and work requirements for Medicaid and SNAP and also make HRT for trans people no longer covered under MedicaidI'm starting to think you guys don't actually follow current events in this hell country and just want to infight about inconsequential nonsense while the current administration is intensifying the class war in extremely blatant ways
>As part of Trump’s plan to remove undocumented immigrants from the country, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) will receive $45bn for detention facilities, $14bn for deportation operations and billions of dollars more to hire an additional 10,000 new agents by 2029.<Republicans have attempted to cut down on the bill’s cost by slashing two major federal safety net programs: Medicaid, which provides healthcare to poor and disabled Americans, and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Snap), which helps people afford groceries. Both are in for funding cuts, as well as new work requirements. The Urban Institute thinktank believes, based on an analysis of a similar policy, these could remove as many as 5.2 million people from Medicaid, while the left-leaning Center on Budget and Policy Priorities forecasts about a quarter of Snap recipients could leave the program, or nearly 11 million people.>the bill includes a provision that prohibits federal courts from enforcing contempt citations related to temporary restraining orders or preliminary injunctions […] judges could get around the provision for future cases, but hundreds of existing court orders covering all sorts of subjects – including the many lawsuits against Trump’s policies – would become unenforceable.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/22/what-is-trump-big-beautiful-bill >>2279342american parties are cooked (as anything coming out of the american left after the black panthers) if they scramble behind what members of the masses are doing individually. the party shouldn't condemn shooting the healthcare ceo, aaron bushnell, and this new guy killing members of the zionist state. while these acts have very narrow limits as it depends on a person throwing their whole life into one action, it shows a need for organisation, of linking the unfatomable condition of imperialism on the mentality of workers living in the empire to marxist revolutionary theory, where it's actually possible to enact meaningful change and challenge the mainstream political duality of democrats-republicans
would a communist party be right to have condemned killing nazi diplomats visiting the US?
>>2279494if you're an accelerationist you must be very happy with Trump right now
he is doing the dumbest shit possible to collapse the country
even if you somehow agreed with individual policies you have to admit that he has no functional plans to how to deal with the fallout of those policies, he is just a bull in a china store
Statement by PM Netanyahu
>“Last night in Washington something horrific happened.
>A brutal terrorist shot in cold blood a young beautiful couple – Yaron Lischinsky and Sara Milgrim. Yaron had just bought an engagement ring for Sarah. He was planning to give it to her in Jerusalem next week. They were planning to start a new and happy life together. Well, that tragically did not happen.
>Yaron and Sarah weren’t the victims of a random crime. The terrorist who cruelly gunned them down did so for one reason and one reason alone – he wanted to kill Jews. And as he was taken away, he chanted, "Free Palestine!"
>This is exactly the same chant we heard on October 7th. On that day, thousands of terrorists stormed into Israel from Gaza. They beheaded men. They raped women. They burned babies alive. They butchered 1,200 innocent people and took 251 innocent people hostage to the dungeons of Gaza.
>A short time afterwards, Chancellor Scholz of Germany visited Israel. And after he saw the horrors, he said to me, “These Hamas terrorists are exactly like the Nazis.”
>He was right. And if they could get away with it, these Hamas terrorists would have slaughtered every last Jew on earth.
>For these neo-Nazis, “Free Palestine” is just today’s version of “Heil Hitler.”
>They don’t want a Palestinian state. They want to destroy the Jewish state. They want to annihilate the Jewish people, who have been in the Land of Israel for 3,500 years.
>I could never understand how this simple truth evades the leaders of France, Britain, Canada and others. They are now proposing to establish a Palestinian state and reward these murderers with the ultimate prize.
>Well for 18 years we had a de facto Palestinian state. It’s called Gaza. And what did we get? Peace? No. We got the most savage slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust.
>You won't be surprised to learn that Hamas thanked President Macron and Prime Ministers Starmer and Carney for demanding that Israel end its war in Gaza immediately.
>Hamas was right to thank them.
>Because by issuing their demand – replete with a threat of sanctions against Israel, against Israel, not Hamas – these three leaders effectively said they want Hamas to remain in power.
>They want Israel to stand down and accept that Hamas's army of mass murderers will survive, rebuild and repeat the October 7th massacre again and again and again because that's what Hamas has vowed to do.
>I say to President Macron, Prime Minister Carney and Prime Minister Starmer: When mass murderers, rapists, baby killers and kidnappers thank you, you're on the wrong side of justice.
>You're on the wrong side of humanity and
>you're on the wrong side of history.
>Now, these leaders may think that they're advancing peace. They’re not. They’re emboldening Hamas to continue fighting forever. And they give them hope to establish a second Palestinian state from which Hamas will again seek to destroy the Jewish state.
>And mind you, it's not going to be a state free of Hamas. When you establish a Palestinian state, we've seen it, the radicals take over. Iran sends them in and they take over. So don't give us this talk, "It'll be a peaceful Palestinian state". It won't be.
>But the hypocrisy doesn’t stop there. These and other leaders have bought into Hamas’s propaganda that says Israel is starving Palestinian children.
>And not only is Hamas putting out this lie.
>A few days ago, a top UN official said that 14,000 Palestinian babies would die in 48 hours. You see many international institutions are complicit in spreading this lie.
>The press repeats it. The mob believed it. And a young couple is then brutally gunned down in Washington.
>So here are the facts:
>Since October 7th, Israel has sent 92,000 aid trucks into Gaza. That's right. 92,000 aid trucks. That includes 1.8 million tons of aid. 1.8 million tons of aid – more than enough food to feed everyone in Gaza.
>Yet as we had let the aid come in, Hamas stole it. They took a huge chunk for themselves. The rest they sold at exorbitant prices to the Palestinian population.
>And then they used the money they stole to recruit new terrorists to continue their war against Israel.
>Our goal from the start was to get food to Palestinian civilians, not to Palestinian terrorists.
>So we consulted with our American allies: what do we do to prevent Hamas from looting the aid? Well, together we devised a mechanism to achieve this goal.
>American companies will distribute the food directly to Palestinian families. They'll do so in safe zones secured by our military. And this will allow us to complete our goal of destroying Hamas while enabling aid to reach the civilian population.
>We’ll complete the construction of the first distribution zones in the coming days.
>Ultimately, we intend to have large safe zones in the south of Gaza. The Palestinian population will move there for their own safety, while we conduct combat in other zones, and receive humanitarian aid there without Hamas interference.
>In the meantime, we authorized letting trucks enter Gaza to provide for immediate needs. Yesterday I think 100, more than 100 trucks went in. More will come in today.
>I tell you this: no army in the world has ever gone to such lengths to provide aid to the civilian population in the midst of intense combat.
>And Hamas of course, opposes this.
>It shoots Palestinian civilians who want to leave for safe zones and it shoots Palestinian civilians who want to prevent Hamas terrorists from looting the aid trucks intended for them.
>As for the hostages, we'll do every effort to secure them. I'm ready for a temporary ceasefire to get more out but we demand, and you should demand, that all of our hostages be released and released immediately. And so should every civilized country demand this.
>We’re in an intense seven front war that was launched against us by Iran and its proxies. Sometimes in war accidents happen.
>One such incident happened the other day in Jenin. And thankfully no one was hurt. Our military has expressed its regret over the event because we don't target civilians or diplomats. We target terrorists.
>Exactly the opposite of Hamas. They target civilians, ours, and they hide behind civilians, theirs. They use them as human shields. That's a double war crime. But I don't hear that coming from anyone of those countries that criticize Israel.
>For those who say that Israel stands alone, I say we’re not alone.
>Justice stands with us.
>The truth stands with us.
>History stands with us.
>And so do countless people around the world who can tell the difference between right and wrong, between good and evil.
>I want to thank all of them.
>And I especially want to thank President Trump and the American people for their forthright stand with Israel and with the Jewish people.
>Together we stand.
>Together we'll triumph and will see the victory of civilization over barbarism”.
>>2279574Iron Felix has always been right the problem is that he doesn't do shit. If he strips bombs on himself, destroys an armory or something and leaves a huge graffiti somewhere that says "Iron Felix was here, your turn leftypol" or something like that, then I'd immediately respect him. But people that talk the talk (and that do so nonstop, too!) without doing shit are simply annoying and difficult to respect.
I don't tell others to do that which I'm not willing to do myself. I dont have the balls to kill or bomb a building or something like that, but I don't tell other people to do it for me.
Felix doesn't have the balls either but he still tells fucking everyone to do that which he wouldn't do, and hasn't done, and won't do.
>>2279584That anarchist did more to galvanise the masses against Israel, and as per his own written manifesto inspired the man who shot these Zionists.
Meanwhile you’re bitching about “praxis” while you complain behind a keyboard and post shit on an Albanian bunker building forum. They have objectively done more on behalf of the Palestinians than you.
>>2279594Gaza is a parking lot and it's people are going to be exterminated in front of our eyes, and absolutely no one will lift a finger to stop it.
That anarchist accomplished exactly the same thing every other anarchist has ever accomplished.
Nothing.
>>2279594>galvanise the massesThe masses are so galvanized that they voted for genocide once and will vote for more genocide right after(midterms) and I am certain they will vote to continue the genocide in 2028, as well. They see the matter of genocide, as "another issue" of not much importance even when entertaining voting for Bernie Sanders or whatever sheepdog pops up after him. Even as they repeat the Zionist line over and over and over.
Look it's the best we got 'kay? Just die for my treats… and hurry up, you are making this awkward for everyone.
>>2279607There is plenty of awareness and the matter of supporting the genocide and the settler colonial project is made explicit by politicians. It is a prerequisite to accept Zionism it for the voter and the voted. And yet, no problem.
Yeah, so what I said:
>Just die for my treats and don't inconvenience my conscience >>2279608the writing was on the wall when Hezbollah got decapitated and Assad got overthrown. Most of the Arab regimes and their militant/terrorist groups threw the Palestinians under the bus and backstabbed the resistance in exchange for sectarian advantage over Iran and trade deals with the US and Israel.
Most of the ME is run by slave-minded quislings who can't wait to bend over for zio-cock. And even many of the Palestinians themselves cheered the fall of Assad and the quisling takeover of Syria, effectively cheering the final destruction of the Palestinian cause, because they have sectarian brainworms from listening to quisling-produced "news" channels.
This cause has seemed lost for a while now, so i can understand why a lot of people stopped paying attention a while ago.
>>2279571If all else was equal then the deficit/debt wouldn't be an issue.
The fact that Trump is destabilizing everything DOES make the debt an issue. The US's credit is no longer reliable.
>>2279649There's a lot of historical precedent of gov agencies promoting and making violence to create a manufactured crisis so they can step in as a solution so it's the right call to out it as fedposting because that's how they operate. Secondly, one can "do something" without getting involved with senseless violence. No, burning yourself in front of an embassy doesn't count either.
>>2279657Exactly this. What was the point? No strategy in this shit at all because it was all about anger and fulfilling his own desires. Now the zionists can use it as propaganda.
>>2279565>settler colonial state built on genocide supports settler colonial state built on genocidethis isn't cucked. america is america for a reason. it must go away along with jizzrael. there's no separating burger patriotism from settler terror
>>2279562>zogburger senators kneel to israel because they love the lobbyist money. they had a choice and they chose genocide. the burger govt. must be destroyed whether or not occupied by zionists. zog implies some kind of infestation that an otherwise noble govt. can be healed of. the burger gov cannot be healed of zog because the burger gov has been a genocidal settler govt. since the beginning.
>>2279649>>2279657its not because they support his action that its fedposting or as-good-as fedposting. its that they are expressing it as, basically, "thats right were the most pure when we say tear it all down we mean all of it kill em all NOW NOW NOW."
if, entirely hypothetically, i were in charge of messaging for a palestine solidarity network, i would phrase it as carefully as possible to both express unequivocal support for the shooter as well as as much legal plausible deniability as possible so as not to endanger and isolate supporters of the org. this is endangering and isolating supporters in their org, it is baiting the feds to drop patriot act shit on them AND adopting this edgy, haughty tone that will discourage public sympathy. why not frame a statement something like:
"The assassination of these diplomats is a clear and uncontroversial result of the ongoing genocide Israel is conducting in Gaza. It is a fact that [name] and [name] were acting as official representatives of a government openly and egregiously violating international law. It is a fact that [shooter's name] assassinated [name] and [name] for the express reason that they were representatives of a state committing genocide. That [shooter] acted outside of the law is clearly true, and it is true he took two lives. [Shooter], however, represents only himself as a private citizen, and acted in that capacity. [name] and [name] were employed as representatives of the state of Israel: they acted in this capacity not only aware of Israel's ongoing killing of tens of thousands of people in Gaza, but as active supporters of Israel's genocidal policies in Gaza. There is no question that [shooter] is a political prisoner and must be treated in the context of the international response to an ongoing genocide. This assassination was not a sudden act of murder but a foreseeable response to the United States' massive material and diplomatic support for a government carrying out horrific crimes against humanity in full view of the world. The censure of political debate about Israel's genocidal policy, and the repression and demonization of non-violent anti-genocide protests, has created an environment in which it is to be expected that those who refuse to look away from the slaughter do not feel much pity for those who make a comfortable living advocating for the mass slaughter of the powerless."
Idk, maybe thats good maybe not. But the point is to tap into the anger while putting things in their proper context, make it seem like this is the normal and expected response, i.e. boohoo 2 professional apologists for genocide got killed. the statement they provided is awful because it feels like posturing, like its from some special clique that knows the TRUTH that other people dont and is willing to kill for it!!! which doesnt effectively elicit any kind of broader sympathy it just scares away and makes skeptical the people who are otherwise sympathetic. feels like the same type of juvenile 2Radical4U bullshit which in high stakes as this seems indistinguishable from a honeypot
>>2279660>No strategy in this shit at all because it was all about anger and fulfilling his own desires.I couldn't agree more. In the long run it accomplishes nothing.
>>2279661Well you aren't going to do that on your own, at least not without a lot more planning.
>>2279681>>2279681So, operating under a couple of assumptions. One: these events are going to continue to happen. The material conditions have primed these events to happen. It doesn't matter if every single Communist party in the organization comes out and says, "No one can don any form of violence. We are 100% peaceful, electoral-based parties. We have zero support of this." They're going to continue to crack down on us regardless, and these events are going to continue to happen regardless. No one can—no one—so please let me put this clearly: there's no organization that could just militantly tell a lone wolf actor what they can or can't do. At a certain point, individuals' convictions and principles are going to be acted on. That's the deed.
So, I'm operating under a second assumption: we are propagandists. Everything in this spectacle is propaganda. Whether it's my magazine, whether it's a subreddit, whether it's a Discord group, whether it's an Instagram account, whether it's the news in the most direct sense—everything is propaganda. Everything's trying to present a narrative to you in this spectacle. We know that without proper propagandization of these events, then they are especially useless.
Okay, is doing this going to turn the tide of history? I can't tell you. Probably not. I don't think this is going to just end the genocide overnight. And I think that making that the condition for any action to be worthwhile is very poor judgment—bad strategy.
There was a woman in Nazi Germany. Her name escapes me. She blew up a theater and killed like 40 Nazis. The war went on for another three years. It didn't end the war. We still read about her on Wikipedia. And we still acknowledge her as a hero. We acknowledge that that was a courageous act of resistance. And sometimes, that's enough.
The goal of the propagandist should be to take the deed and sublimate it into the spectacle in such a way that discredits the regime and puts the onus back on the regime. Also, bolstering our moral, ethical, human backing. Giving us a strong moral core.
The regime is killing hundreds of thousands of people in the name of imperialism. The regime has literally killed 300–400 people in 48 hours and is starving thousands of babies to death. Meanwhile, this is going to cause blowback. Reiterate why these random acts of violence happen. Because I cannot sit here and say, "I condemn this and you shouldn't do this." It makes you look like you have no conviction.
Now here's another thing. This is what Huey Newton said about a proper vanguard party—which we are not. We are propagandists. We are a culture magazine. We run a website. He said the vanguard party should speak and say the things that the people themselves cannot truly speak. The fact of the matter is: a sizable number of people, whether they can be openly in support of it or it's a subconscious feeling, think that what that man did last night was just. If your Communist party can't acknowledge those feelings among the masses, I don't think they are going to be successful at reaching them.
So I guess that's my take on it. I feel like, as a propagandist, it's my goal. The onus is on me to do the best I can with the person who did the deed. I can't tell the person, "Don't do this." Because I don't have that level of power. I don't have that level of control. No one does. Everyone's an individual.
And I think—personally—my opinions on adventurism are: if you're in a party, if you're in the DSA, if you are in the PSL, if you are an active participant of a democratic centrist party, and you go and commit a lone wolf act, that is adventurism—especially if you mention the party in the manifesto, or in the reasoning, or in the action-based explanation of why you did it. Because it's going to fuck your people over.
Problem is, not everybody's in a party. The thing is, in America, anarchists have a significant sway over the material conditions and the organizational structures. You can't not acknowledge that. It's part of the overall material conditions—part of the base. The deed and the propaganda aren't one thing, but two halves in the age of spectacle.
>>2279710>Okay, is doing this going to turn the tide of history? I can't tell you. Probably not.Probably not. History doesn't turn on the individual human will.
>There was a woman in Nazi Germany. Her name escapes me. She blew up a theater and killed like 40 Nazis.Are you talking about a Tarantino movie.
>>2279698you forget one thing.
every fascist, everywhere on earth, should die. no fascist should ever be safe anywhere.
>>2279713lmao yes he's talking about a tarantino film but the point remains mostly the same.
read history, not just theory, you fucking dorks. theory is the tool you use to UNDERSTAND history. only reading theory is like a mechanic buying tools and refusing to work on a car because they might get dirty.
that said there were lots of genuine acts of resistance against nazism, even inside germany, for the entire duration of the regime. wherever there were communists, there was a resistance.
RE: the shooter, the only correct take is that the only thing he did wrong was NOT being in an organization, but rather doing it on his own. this is largely the fault of the "left" in America being unwilling to sacrifice anything (this does not always mean lives you stupid fucking dorks) which intentionally shuts doors of tactics.
basically, your political organization cannot advance beyond impotence unless it is prepared to break the law. this does not always mean shooting people, or blowing things up. but it means marshalling people in explicit, targeted, militant, anti-government activities. the goal is to discipline and regiment people, and prepare them both physically and psychologically for severe repressions. you should be treating this all like it's a war, because IT IS! It's called class war, and we're losing!
you should be taking people like luigi and elias and turning them into revolutionary soldiers, imbued with a correct political education. elias was almost there. we can't reject violence, only UNORGANIZED violence.
no foreign army is ever going to save us. we have to do this ourselves. it has been done before. people like Võ Nguyên Giáp had no military experience at all, and he had far fewer resources than we do.
>>2279729Giap built the Viet Minh out of 40 people with zero military experience. They didn't even speak the right language so it took them years to gradually build up enough of an organization to raise armed cadre. He started in 42, by 43 he had several hundred. It wasn't until 1944 when they started engaging French garrisons, despite being armed with
>two revolvers, seventeen rifles, one light machine gun, and fourteen breech-loading flintlocks dating from the Russo-Japanese War.they still forced the garrisons to surrender mostly through the sheer shock of the attack. Basically, shoot the French officers and the Vietnamese troops would surrender. It wasn't until 1945 that they could engage Japanese garrisons, when the IJA was severely weakened. Even then, they only had about five thousand soldiers.
We have to start from 0 and build our way up, but you do not need millions of soldiers in the revolutionary phase. That comes during the civil war.
>>2279753yeah im saying that is what most americans are going to do.
>>2279765>Propaganda of the deed only works when it's organized and spread out enough to create a narrative out of it.only if the narrative is based in a class movement instead of something resembling a subculture. with this random act of violence most people will see themselves in the shoes of the victim, which is the opposite of luigi. most americans dont know their government sees them as palestians, and dont see themselves that way either, yet.
maybe this event will help the state prove it by example but adventurism is the opposite side of tailism. the correct line is not following the masses, or running ahead of them, but leading them. if he had mass support and
then made an example of praxis then the masses would follow. first you need education and organization
>>2279709obviously legality is a contingent technicality theres nothing fundamentally meaningful about it. the point here is to take a line that exploits the inconsistencies in legalistic reasoning
>>2279716sure sounds good to me. more effective approaching that scenario without sending edgy kneejerk communiques that could immediately drive away and/or get arrested the base of supporters that youd need for shelter and supply
>>2279255i shall fucking murder you
*free palestine* *free palestine* *free palestine* *free palestine* *free palestine* *free palestine* *free palestine* *free palestine* *free palestine* *free palestine*
>>2279899The fact burgoids can't enjoy anything and have to film it for perceived clout enraged me.
Total burger death.
>>2279966You'll never guess who's buying all the US treasury bonds right now.
You have one chance.
>>2279862>>2279863She's right of course.
There's only two scenarios:
>Israel is replaced by Palestine>"Greater Israel" imperial project is carried out over the next century, resulting in millions dead and displaced >>2279966that would be the smart thing to do, but the Chinese probably don't see it panning out as the US blocked the Japanese acquisition of US Steel and they're our top ally
in our multipolar world no country has an inherent competitive edge, so the name of the game now is investment. China has investment. America has investment. Europe does not, and they are the most vulnerable in that respect. If anything, China is more likely to buy up and replace European industry especially the german car companies
>>2279970>She's right of course.>There's only two scenarios:>>Israel is replaced by Palestine>>"Greater Israel" imperial project is carried out over the next century, resulting in millions dead and displacedAll well, very grim prospects.
I guess BDS better pick up the pace eh? That multibillion NATO military isn't gonna collapse itself.
Oh wait, we are not doing that? We actually love NATO and need to keep fighting Russia and China and Iran and protecting US hegemony at all costs? Ah shit sorry, I meant we are gonna do groceries warfare on Israel. Yeah…Take that! We are decolonizing the grocery list with an app!
>>2279565Recognize the irony of celebrating self immolation
https://www.instagram.com/p/DGgHAXVRVke/ but disavowing outright shooting of zionist agents
>>2278771democrats say this is mature line
>>2280218>rightistsnazi.
literal nazi. fuentes is formally a nazi.
>>2280284>>2280286I mean if he tweeted something like this today it would instantly become official White House policy, posted on government websites, parroted directly by Bondi and then mainstream media. MSNBC and CNN might offer some token pushback along the lines of "the concerns about the black crime rate are valid, but erm the methodology isn't entirely accurate" and then they'd get denounced as communists and terrorism sympathizers.
How quickly things change
>>2280295The only difference between 2015 Trump and 2025 Trump is that he's had 10 years to put together a team of psychopaths that will say or do anything to appease him. First term Trump desperately wanted people willing to do anything for him but instead got a lot of resistance from the executive bureaucracy.
Also, putting it like that makes me realize Trump was already an old man before Obama's first term when he was spouting racism for the Clintons. The fact he's still being retarded in the media nearly 20 years later and hasn't died of a stroke is kind of depressing.
>>2280298Right, yeah, blackest reaction
In the midst of all this, even as most Americans are still struggling to wake up from the nightmare of capitalist realism, folks like this guy know what's up. He doesn't take the "condemn Hamas" debate, doesn't let them sensationalize the DC shooter, states plainly and clearly that this shit is all blowback from America's imperialist adventures
>>2280309take back the no-tariff agreement recently agreed with China?
force them to be more subservient?
see:
>>2280317 >>2280345>The EU and member countries have actual independanceno they don't
>they reluctantly follow the US in their sanctiooning because they make more money that wayand because their entire economy is integrated with american tech which makes its economy not exactly sovereign
>they will eventually shift to Chinano they won't. NATO was designed to keep the Americans in Europe, the Russians out, and the Germans down, remember?
>>2280351France is of course imperialist, but they and other EU countries are simply the lieutenants of the imperialist mafia, with America being the mafia boss. The French certainly have their own willpower and ambitions but they must ask permission from the boss before exercising it as we saw in 2011 when France made a play on Libya with Clintons blessing. The Americans would never allow a NATO country to make decisions without them, they have the final say every time and can wag their NATO contributions in the face of anyone who says otherwise
>>2280354NATO is just one of the many atlantacist chains on europe. nato could disappear tomorrow and nothing would realistically change. We'll see, but I have a suspicion the european people purely on the basis of culture alone would prefer a future that includes the americans and excludes the chinese
>>2280366Go call him a fuckin cunt and say you’ll batter fuck out of him if he does it again.
It’s not exactly hard anon. Don’t let people disrespect you.
>>2280394>the national postage museum while I was here. You failed. Go see the spaceships you loser.
Speaking of DC, I just saw a DC license plate the other day in Alabama. It's funny that their license is a protest against the government.
>>2280436>the british govt. that slogan comes from the 1776 war of independenceWhich they have repurposed to protest against our current government obviously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_taxation_without_representation#District_of_Columbia
>In the United States, the phrase is used in the District of Columbia as part of the campaign for a vote in Congress, to publicize the fact that District of Columbia residents pay federal taxes, but do not have representation in Congress. In November 2000, the D.C. Department of Motor Vehicles began issuing license plates bearing the slogan "Taxation without representation".[97] In a show of support for the city, President Bill Clinton used the "Taxation Without Representation" plates on the presidential limousine; however, President George W. Bush had the tags replaced to those without the motto shortly after taking office.[98] President Barack Obama announced his intention to use the plates with the motto beginning at his second inauguration.[99] President Donald Trump continued usage of the plates with the protest motto after he was elected, though he has stated he has "no position" on the issue of granting D.C. statehood.[100] In 2017, the phrase was modified to "End Taxation Without Representation".
>In 2002, the Council of the District of Columbia authorized adding the slogan to the D.C. flag, but no new flag design was approved.[101][102] In 2007, the District of Columbia and United States Territories Quarters program was created based on the successful 50 State Quarters program.[103] DC submitted designs containing the slogan, but they were rejected by the U.S. Mint. >>2279614>endorse based actTHEY'RE GLOWIES
>condemn based actTHEY'RE FEDS
no alive, irl political actor can do right in the eyes of leftypol
>>2280509>>2280504By her accent and pronunciation it is clear she is not a white american.
We are again exporting the job of white American are not willing to do to immigrants. This is why we need immigration
>>2280514I am also glad he chose to say "free Palestine" because that's easy to defend as still a phrase that has no violent connotation. Would have been worse if he said globalize intifada or from the river to the sea. Also it's good that he is not Muslim, Zionist really wanted him to be Muslim. Lastly it's good that he waited a long time to do when Israel support was destroyed as now there is a level of pushback to move forward still only having this he a small road bump. If he did this during the early protest after October 7th it would have looked quite bad
Trump being in office too cracking down on Palestine protesters is an advantage as people are afraid to go too hard on him for being a protestor type since they know trump will weaponize this to silence speech and lastly we should thank the Israeli government for being so far right that even liberal sympathizers still see reason to side with Palestine instead as netanyahu immediately says insane shit today like today saying France, Canada and the UK are siding with Hamas. A republican too yesterday randy fine said we need to nuke gaza
One last thing if you are to do something like this please looksmax before hand and look presentable as possible so you don't look like a messy soyjak which makes everyone look had. This guy thankfully at least had proper hygiene, a job and a normal life to the point that his neighbor was even willing to defend him which was good.
>>2280527The real MVP of the situation too is Ken klipperstein for releasing the manifesto. Thousands upon thousands have read it by now especially since hasan piker chose to read the entire thing to his stream and discuss it.
With that manifesto it destroys their argument that this was antisemitic and makes clear why he targeted who he did. I saw it has already over 1100 likes as well as 300 shares on there which is a lot of a substack post. The guy wrote well too making a good emotional argument
>>2280543>>2280548It's like what George Lucas was talking about, how the beginning rhymes with the end. Like they leave Germany due to the Holocaust, then they commit a Holocaust and mourn a dead German
Fucking poetry here
>>2280455unfortunately for france their imperialism is largely facilitated by american tech and intelligence, and in a scenario, however unlikely, where america wanted one thing, and france wanted another, america could cripple the french army through export controls. sure they have a certain amount of indigenous defense like nukes but with a push of a button their capacity to exert imperial pressure abroad
would be diminished or stop completely. they have no choice but to be friendly with washington
>>2280543if only you could post zionists videos from tiktok there, to contrast how insanely the zios in Palestine are, and show how are they being delusional…
if only.
>>2280517>>2280453looks like your random e-thot selling nudes in onlyfans with 100 followers.
>>2280431>>2280437kek
>>2280662Supposedly there's going to be at least one giant banner with Trump's face on it. Which obviously means we have to compare it side by side with DPRK military parades to see who has the best drip
>>2280651The Cool Zone comes to those who wait
>>2280748zoomer narratives
also boomers seem to be quite low to me for some reason
>>2280792>leftist platform<not a proletarian platformDead on arrival.
>>2278771My prayers are with the souls of the faithful departed who gave their lives so the PSL could have their 15 minutes of fame after decades of tireless activism.
>>2280812Don't shit your diapers instead of considering the facts. Ignoring that stupid adventurism achieves nothing and defending them because you think it's righteous based on your own moral view is 🥴
The real solution lies in building a strong international labor movement, something hardly anyone takes seriously anymore, much less bored petit-bourgeois who just want a 'happening'.
>>2280841Oh wait
It's literally just a "youth curfew" for the holidays
Nothingburger
>>2280455>today they are recognizing the palestinian state and sanctioning Israel for exampleEveryone is just washing their hands off the 90% done genocide before putting a bow on it and claiming it was averted. Even Israel insists it is "the Trump plan" in order to shift the blame for the explicit policy of forced displacement. NATO has gotten a huge victory in the middle east. And, a the cost of the Ukraine war, retained the commitment of western Europe to atlanticism.
Now, the question is. They got it, but look what it took to keep the most favored US allies to favor atlanticism over profit. Wherever the US needs to reassert their influence it brings war and misery. Wherever China wants to expand their influence brings trade. Absent an export of revolution that threatens them… even the most retarded liberals should have an easy choice to make. The US can't keep everyone at gunpoint, colonialism already failed.
This is how a real Communist party responds to random acts of violence.
>The new Programme of the SACP adopted in 1962, whilst opposing undisciplined acts of individual terror and rejecting theories that all non-violent methods of struggle are useless or impossible, states that: "The Communist Party considers that the slogan of 'non-violence' is harmful to the cause of the democratic national revolution in the new phase of the struggle, disarming the people in the face of the savage assaults of the oppressor, dampening their militancy, undermining their confidence in their leaders. Today they (the people) are left with no alternative but to defend themselves and hit back, to meet violence with violence. The Nationalists are forcing a solution upon South Africa in which patriots and democrats will take up arms to defend themselves, organise guerrilla armies and undertake various acts of resistance culminating in mass insurrection against white domination.
>In the result, in the middle 60s, both the internal and external situation became relatively less favourable for the implementation of previously determined tactics in the unfolding of the struggle. The course which has been charted is a difficult and protracted one. It has had its high points and low points. But the complexities we face ought not to blind us to the fact that as in the early 60s, so now, any policy of struggle which does not include as one of its basic planks the preparation for armed action is wrong and will condemn both the people and the movement to political impotence.
Notice how different this response is from the inactivists and cowards here, who will get out of this movement exactly what they have put into it. Nothing.
>>2280921awful looking. I wonder if it's tasty.
>>2280919>Do these people really think if daddy says not to do something >people will listen?I am here because I listened.
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