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The first major coup attempt of the USA happened in 1930s. Big Business tried to get a decorated marine for American Empire, Smedley Butler, to orchestrate a coup by organizing soldiers to head into Washington. This was to stop FDR and prevent the New Deal from happening. A historian said that if it weren't for his refusal, it's possible the USA could've been turned into a fascist state.

Smedley Butler was radicalized after this to the point that he saw that despite being a really accomplished soldier, all he did was be a "gangster" for capitalism. He was radicalized and wrote a book about "War is a Racket". Butler also envisioned a US military that stood for self defense rather than warmongering and expansion.

Now less than a hundred years later, the same thing happened with rich people trying to institute fascism. And then four years later, the fascists succeed and take over the country. Butler would be rolling in his grave if he saw the state of the country, all his effort was for nothing because history repeated itself again and succeeded this time. American soldiers treated like trash by the president also.

This shows the fundamental contradiction between unchecked capitalism and democracy.

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Smedley Butler was cool and I really mean that, but I hate to tell you that FDR was arguably para-Fascist.

This is not bait the New Deal was like Italy's Corporatism with American characteristics.

>>2257047
>This shows the fundamental contradiction between unchecked capitalism and democracy.
This is extremely true.

Except America did become fascist, or did you forget the FDR dictatorship? The “business plot” was always media hype and Smedley Butler was an active participant in imperialism who had a bullshit “change of heart” to endear himself towards left anticommunists. Outside of American leftist mythology it’s generally accepted that the “plot” was just an excuse to purge businesses that wouldn’t play ball with the New Deal

>>2257047
nobody cares

>>2257297
>Outside of American leftist mythology it’s generally accepted that the “plot” was just an excuse to purge businesses that wouldn’t play ball with the New Deal
proofs?

>>2257297
Okay oinky piggy

>>2257297
America was fascist from 1776 onwards

>>2257336
every country that has ever existed is fascist or has been fascist at one point in their history

>>2257340
Sure but the US was the first fascist project, it was also the first liberal project, these things are joined like siamese twins

>>2257208
>I hate to tell you that FDR was arguably para-Fascist
That's a really strained understanding of fascism. The most basic and coherent description of it is the suspension of liberal democracy and its associated rights, separation of powers, limitations, etc in favour of open dictatorship of capital. This is done in order to crush an emerging left wing threat through state terror. Its also a petty bourgeois movement that gets absorbed by the big bourgeoisie. FDR was just a socdem, and despite people loving to quote the social fascism thesis they seem to forget that the Comintern abandoned it a couple years later because they quickly realized it was wrong and retarded. Social democracy is historically just the right wing of the worker's movement, and this describes FDR pretty well. The American communists actually reached the zenith of their influence under him, meaning that he did the opposite of what the core function of fascism is.
>>2257297
>to endear himself towards left anticommunists
Gotta love when people just throw words around like that, completely detached from its meaning. How exactly is "War is a Racket" a left anticommunist text? It's just a straightforward description of how imperialism serves the interests of capital from a person who had direct and intimate knowledge of it.

>>2257347
The American communists tied themselves to the New Deal way too much, defanging themselves and setting the stage for future defeat.

>>2257336
Read Rajani Palme Dutt. No the pre-capitalist United States was not "fascist" unless you goatse the definition of fascism to cover literally everything in history besides Socialism and Communism

>>2257397
Very true, but if you work with communists and make them part of your coalition then I'd say this precludes you from being labelled fascist. Terroristic anti-communism is the core of fascism, and FDR showed he was willing to both tolerate and cooperate with communists both at home and abroad.

>>2257208
>the meme
I seriously doubt there are any fascist who think/thought that New Deal was "Fascism in action"

>>2258412
There is. But they're also the type to think the CPC is Actually Succesfull Natsoc like Hitler wanted so they're a bit out there.

>>2258441
Really? I always see them arguing that FDR was plutocracy/jewish puppet.


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