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Not reporting is bourgeois


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If you are in an organization that claims to adhere to the proletarian movement how many of the elements in the title does your organization adhere to? Do you go out with shitty cardboard signs and hippie beanie clothes like losers? Are participants in your org willing to adopt a uniformed look or do they reject uniformity in favor of individual choices? Can you all form a line adhering to height? Can you march in unison? Can you sing in unison? Can you handle the logistics to obtain uniforms? Can you design banners, uniforms, flags and have them produced? Do you print reading material? Do you know how to behave when handing out printed material? Do you know how to behave in front of agitators? Do you know how to give interviews? Do you know how to recruit? And many other questions.
It appears that most organizations, especially leftoid orgs are completely disorganized and glorify piglike behavior expecting praise and new recruits without putting in the necessary effort to hold a structured organization.
They often blame the lack of finances, the lack of members and dismiss any notion of uniformity. And even when finances are not a problem, they may refuse out of individualism "I don't like wearing suits" and such other excuses which are more common within the declassed and more liberal structures. Of course there are outliers, there are declassed organizations with suits. What about yours though? Do you even have the will to implement these crucial elements in your organization or would you rather dismiss and criticize them as being stuck up?
I remind that the very same institutions and bourgeoisie NGOs that dominate the social order already see the necessity in these elements as far as to emphasize their importance in managerial courses, logically if you want to compete with them for attention from the broader "public" you need to 1UP them. If you don't like it then have fun playing play-pretend with your gay ass libtarded idpol friends and running a small business on a legalized squat or some shit. But if you agree on the necessity of these things, what have you done to try to implement them OR how have you managed to implement them in your org?
This is assuming you're not in an insurrectionary organization / party and care about public appearances.

My org lets you dress however you like so long as a branded mark of at least one Chaos god or Chaos Undivided is visibly presented

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99% of libtarded orgs cannot march in unison and can't even have a proper posture enforced. This is a necessary generalization.
Uniformity can come in a variety, the individual argument of "I don't like it" is wrecker behavior when broader options are allowed.

>>2261226
dressing in uniform is very silly unless you're actually organised as a military force

Another question arises, how do you expect to fight against the bourgeoisie if your organization does not even possess 1/1000th of the discipline and order?

>>2261231
If the org is serious it will strive to become a military force and be preparing as a paramilitary one prior to that.

>>2261237
And with that, militarization does not come simply by handing out rifles to people, if they are to receive a rifle without discipline and knowledge the only thing they can do is shove it up their ass.

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>>2261233
Who would win? The local DSA chapter or the French Foreign Legion? Obviously the mouth breathing landwhale liberal neurotic idpol faggots would get their entrails disemboweled. So why make your org look like the DSA? Be like the French Foreign Legion.
Fascists have their own "social clubs" (gyms), does your org have a gym? Or at the very least do you have a schedule and routine for your org to train?

Military fetishism is good but it should go beyond that, an org preparing for class war should strive to have a military structure even in peaceful times. Education and physical activity - discipline must be routine.

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>>2261258
If the org does not posses the latter it cannot hope to compete. It will be liquidated by the US agencies, rats, the police, the army. If your org does not possess or strive to build this level of discipline you might as well leave it because you are wasting your time. Basic drills are present in every army. If you cannot strive to fight your own nation's army then there is no point striving for a revolution, rebrand as a charity for the disabled or some shit.

military uniforms and shit like that are for AFTER you take power. guerilla warfare you should be indistinguishable from civilians. this way the regime is paranoid and prone to attacking the people whether or not they are loyal, which presses more people to reject the regime and join the guerillas.

>>2261282
You don't need an explicitly military uniform, a uniformed look can range from suits, vests, to anything that is distinguishable for your organization in attendance to public appearances.
This is a must-have for preparation and PR if the organization wishes to present itself as "respectable".

>>2261258
>Military fetishism is good

that's a lot of weird terms to describe discipline, that's the real problem and having discipline isn't militaristic.

>>2261258
>vid
I honesty think this american ass chewing is retarded af.

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>>2261353
You should learn to love the uniform, there isn't going to be much of a choice in a crisis situation. You are not unique or special in the situation of a war, you are one and the same as everyone else. Covered in dirt crawling around, on prowl, on sentry duty for 12 hours in your uniform. Love your uniform like you love your skin.

>>2261258
>Military fetishism is good
ohhhh i love le aesthetics!!

>>2261379
One aesthetic fits all, the one that's most effective for its purpose.

>>2261377
war is a racket

Are you going to pay for the uniforms?

Another larp thread

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>>2261379
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>>2261409
How does your org handle finances? Some have a tax for members and a "cashier" who is tasked with documenting finances and take out of the savings when they need to organize an event. Some simply have their members pay out of pocket. Where is the LARP? Are you even in an org or are you in a school club? Who handles your banners at public appearances, who makes them? Who brings the sticks? Are they sticks made out of wood or plastic if wooden poles is forbidden to carry around? There are basic things for an org, either you're not organized or your friend club is so shitty they can't even manage to pull off one, you're the LARPer.

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>>2261409
>where da money at? lole larp
REAL ORGS only participate in 'cord servers

Uniforms are a stupid idea. Even in the 1930's they only made sense when the revolution was already underway, otherwise it was just a gigantic sign on your body that said I AM A COMMUNIST which as you could expect was not a good idea if you were, say, a German communist in 1933. Britain banned uniforms in 1936 famously because a uniform was a magnet for street violence.

>>2261439
Beanie wearing soyjaks already get into street violence doe

>>2261442
The liberal ones or the fascist ones?

>>2261445
What's the difference?

>>2261367
Yeah the Marines love that retarded shit. It apparently comes out of older-style Prussian methods and also British methods (specifically the Royal Marines) who the U.S. Marines wanting to emulate in the 1800s. BTW there's an essay by Engels called "The Armies of Europe" that talked about different armies in the 1850s (fascinating reading BTW) and he talked about British drill being notoriously harsh then, they were still practicing flogging while the Prussians had discarded it, but this practice which was aimed at creating discipline wrecked morale and contributed to the relatively high number of desertions of British troops during the Crimean War.

>There is one institution in the British army which is perfectly sufficient to characterize the class from which the British soldier is recruited. It is the punishment of flogging. Corporal punishment does not exist in the French, the Prussian, and several of the minor armies. Even in Austria, where the greater part of the recruits consist of semi-barbarians, there is an evident desire to do away with it, thus the punishment of running the gauntlet has recently been struck out from the Austrian military code. In England, on the contrary, the cat-o'-nine-tails is maintained in its full efficiency—an instrument of torture fully equal to the Russian knout in its most palmy time. Strange to say, whenever a reform of the military code has been mooted in Parliament, the old martinets have stuck up for the cat, and nobody more zealously than old Wellington himself. To them, an unflogged soldier was a monstrously misplaced being. Bravery, discipline, and invincibility, in their eyes, were the exclusive qualities of men bearing the scars of at least fifty lashes on their backs.


>The cat-o'-nine-tails, it must not be forgotten, is not only an instrument calculated to inflict pain; it leaves indelible scars, it marks a man for life, it brands him. Now, even in the British army, such corporal punishment, such branding, really amounts to an everlasting disgrace. The flogged man loses caste with his fellow soldiers. But, according to the British military code, punishment, before the enemy, consists almost exclusively in flogging; and thus, the very punishment which is said, by its advocates, to be the only means of keeping up discipline in cases of great urgency, is the means of ruining discipline by destroying the morale and the point d'honneur of the soldier.


>This explains two very curious facts: first, the great number of English deserters before Sebastopol. In winter, when the British soldiers had to make superhuman exertions to guard the trenches, those who could not keep awake for forty-eight or sixty hours together, were flogged! The idea of flogging such heroes as the British soldiers had proved themselves in the trenches before Sebastopol, and in winning the day of Inkermann in spite of their generals! But the articles of war left no choice. The best men in the army, when overpowered by fatigue, got flogged, and, dishonored as they were, they deserted to the Russians. Surely there can be no more powerful condemnation of the flogging system than this. In no former war have troops of any nation deserted in numbers to the Russians; they knew that they would be treated worse than at home. It was reserved to the British army to furnish the first strong contingent of such deserters, and, according to the testimony of the English themselves, it was flogging that made the men desert. The other fact is, the signal failure of the attempt to raise a foreign legion under the British military code. The Continentals are rather particular about their backs. The prospect of getting flogged has overcome the temptation of the high bounty, and good pay. Up to the end of June, not more than one thousand men had enlisted, where fifteen thousand were wanted; and this much is certain, if the authorities attempt to introduce flogging even among these one thousand reprobates, they will have to encounter a storm which will force them either to give way, or to dissolve the foreign legion at once.

https://marxengels.public-archive.net/en/ME0936en.html

>>2261208
besides the fact that individual signs are cringe, signs should always be big and made by the organization, not the individual members
besides that, larping is a waste of resources, specially uniforms and such because you are not actually rising up

>>2261409
Not sucking bourgeois cock every five seconds is LARP, how dare you try and build anything outside my domain plebian.


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