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Illegalism is lumpen "socialism."
Trade unions are labor aristocracy "socialism."
Worker co-operatives are petty-bourgeois "socialism."
Proletarian socialism is when the worker's state owns all the banks, monopolies and land.
But reformism never works and you'll probably die in a revolution.
Am I getting it right?
Shit seems fucked.

>>2264362
I've been thinking that accelerationist praxis would be to boycott petty-bourgeois small business and scab labor aristocrat unions. But that seems kind of dickish though.

>>2264362
>Trade unions are labor aristocracy "socialism."
Wrong, while it's true that unions are full of revisionists they're still going to be under proletarian control in a revolution, certainly before the banks and the state.
>Illegalism is lumpen "socialism."
Depends on the definition, as the as any bourg state will certainly declare any revolution illegal and a fascist state will do that for the whole organized proletariat. Your statement mainly applies to Autonomism and various other "post" Marxists / Anarchists.
The rest of your statements are correct afik.

>>2264362
>Illegalism is lumpen "socialism."
the bolsheviks robbed banks
>Trade unions are labor aristocracy "socialism."
radical trade unions supplement the revolutionary movement
>Worker co-operatives are petty-bourgeois "socialism."
worker cooperatives can be merged and become worker monopolies under a socialist state
>But reformism never works
Reforms happen after revolution, not before. It's not that reforms "don't work" it's that the ruling class blocks them if they are in any way threatening. Only after revolution can the vanguard party oversee a process of gradually and carefully changing and planning society
>and you'll probably die in a revolution.
the goal isn't to die for your cause, it's to make the other guy die for his… but yes, some of your team WILL die. the likelihood of a bloodless victory is very small. The revolutionary generation fights and dies so that subsequent generations don't have to.

Regardless of labels all the shit you mentioned is impotent at best.

>>2264392
>communists did Y, ergo doing Y is communist
Amazing levels of discourse here.

>>2264390
>>2264392
https://clarion.unity-struggle-unity.org/2023-08-13-undead-unionism/
Trade unions are not social unions.
Also I meant the specific Anarchist tendency of Illegalism, not all illegal acts whatsoever.

Anyhow I'm more and more convinced that the best way to get anywhere in the imperial core is to buy cheap consumer goods from China and Vietnam.

>>2264517
>Also I meant the specific Anarchist tendency of Illegalism, not all illegal acts whatsoever.
Aka doing illegal acts while wearing the anarchist badge.


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