/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Corpos, anon. What do you think austerity and neoliberalism does?

>Who controls America?
The Mormons, the Masons and the Jews.

>>2266665
Sure, big corpos, but how behind those corps? Who owns them? How is the process of going from corporation to actual USA policies? It's easy to see "corps", my point is who is behind the corps and how is the process.

>>2266664
>Who controls America?
The capitalists.

>>2266671
>Who owns them?
Old money families stretching back to the beginning of the American Revolution who started out as slave owners who are smart enough to keep out of the spotlight, just like any other capitalist society.

>This dissertation seeks to explain the uncanny continuity of hegemonic US foreign policy across
presidential administrations and the breakdown of the rule of law as evidenced by unadjudicated
state and elite criminality. It finds that a nebulous deep state predominates over politics and
society. This deep state is comprised of institutions that advance the interests of the politico-
economic elite through nexuses connecting the overworld of the corporate rich, the underworld of
organized crime, and mediating national security organizations.

>>2266678
>deep state

Isn't that a Trumpoid word?

>>2266682
the origins of the term deep state come from Türkiye in the 80s and 90s where it was alleged there was a secret regime pulling the strings behind the scenes in collaboration with organised crime to battle Kurdish insurgency.
this is also a dissertation from an actual public university, not something like trump university or patriot bible college
my only quibble with the term 'deep state' is that isn't an aberration just how the capitalist state normally works.

>>2266664
Corporations and Bankers who operate on the orders of lord rothchild

>who controls [country]
The answer is always capital. Next question please.

>>2266664

No one person or group is 'in control'. Rather, all people are under the 'control' of capitalism, including (& especially) the most powerful.

https://ianwrightsite.wordpress.com/2020/03/05/prologomena-to-a-demonology-of-capitalism/

>>2266687
>alleged

>The scandal surfaced with a car–truck collision on November 3, 1996, near the small town of Susurluk in the province of Balıkesir. The victims included the deputy chief of the Istanbul Police Department, a Member of Parliament, and Abdullah Çatlı, the leader of the Grey Wolves and a contract killer for the National Intelligence Organization (Turkey) (MİT), who was on Interpol's red list at the time of his death. The peculiar connections of those involved in the crash with Interior Minister Mehmet Ağar brought to light the existence of a deep state in Turkey and an internal power struggle within the Turkish political structure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susurluk_scandal

its one of the things that exposed
>Operation Gladio was the codename for clandestine "stay-behind" operations of armed resistance that were organized by the Western Union (WU) (founded in 1948), and subsequently by NATO (formed in 1949) and by the CIA (established in 1947),[1][2] in collaboration with several European intelligence agencies during the Cold War.[3] According to several Western European researchers, the operation involved the use of assassination, psychological warfare, and false flag operations to delegitimize left-wing parties in Western European countries, and even went so far as to support anti-communist militias and right-wing terrorism as they tortured communists and assassinated them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

>>2266664
The Final Boss of America. If you defeat him in combat, then you get to control America. But you have to farm trash mobs to level up enough to stand a chance. Those are the rules.

Most assets are owned by institutional investors, not lone entrepreneurs or normal people. These are Vanguard, Blackrock, UBS, State Street, Berkshire Hathaway, and so on. They own almost the entire American stock market and have trillions in assets all over the S&P 500. Powerful capitalists like Bezos, Musk, Buffett, etc. generally own significant chunks of their companies' shares but nowhere as big, and companies keep some of their stock for strategic matters
>who_ create this policies?
They lobby, network and coordinate policies in various national/global meetings and institutions. Of course outside that capitalists already know each other since they do business together, go to the same elite schools and colleges, work in the same financial centers, share similar lifestyles but you wanna know what an actual conspiracy against the working class looks like? Look at the WEF, Trilateral Commission, Group of 30, Atlantic Council, Bilderberg Group. All these places are ultra exclusive and ultra high security, attended by the world's richest people to plan out the big agenda. Military/NATO figures and US defense contractors are also part of it, they're basically best buddies. The participants have connections or spots in all western governments and allies, so the agenda will influence each government to one degree or another while bankrolling more politicians who can push these interests. Of course, rebellious states that don't cooperate with them will be undermined, vilified, maybe even overthrown. Capitalists also found think-tanks to shove their interests down people's throats and get the public opinion in their favor, like pro-corporate, anti-tax, anti-climate change, anti-labor. They like to use shitty fake academic sounding "institutes" and "centers". The Koch Brothers are singlehandedly responsible for ancaps and libertarians being popular today. They were famous for doing this like the Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, George Mason University, etc.
>Who_ is actually influencing the USA politics? What lobbies?
Look for sources and websites that track lobbying and Dark money, like opensecrets.org, followthemoney.org, https://lda.senate.gov/system/public/ https://www.sec.gov/search-filings
Some of Trump's donors for example https://www.opensecrets.org/outside-spending/detail/2024?cmte=C00825851&tab=donors
Also places for corporate leaks like DDoSecrets.com, Wikileaks.org since the rich like to keep the population in the dark
Giants: The Global power elite by Phillips Peter for the global 0.1%
The Petroleum papers by Geoff Dembicki for the anti-climate change psyop
Dark Money by Jane Mayer on Koch lobbying
Search for books related to finance, Wall Street lobbying, dark money

"Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens" (2014)
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/
> Taken as a whole, then, our evidence strongly indicates that theories of Biased Pluralism are more descriptive of political reality than are theories of Majoritarian Pluralism. It is simply not the case that a host of diverse, broadly-based interest groups take policy stands—and bring about actual policies—that reflect what the general public wants. Interest groups as a whole do not seek the same policies as average citizens do. “Potential groups” do not fill the gap. Relatively few mass-based interest groups are active, they do not (in the aggregate) represent the public very well, and they have less collective impact on policy than do business-oriented groups—whose stands tend to be negatively related to the preferences of average citizens. These business groups are far more numerous and active; they spend much more money; and they tend to get their way.
>Table 4 also confirms our earlier findings about economic elites and median voters. When the alignments of business-oriented and mass-based interest groups are included separately in a multivariate model, average citizens’ preferences continue to have essentially zero estimated impact upon policy change, while economic elites are still estimated to have a very large, positive, independent impact.
<Despite the seemingly strong empirical support in previous studies for theories of majoritarian democracy, our analyses suggest that majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the policies our government adopts. Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance, such as regular elections, freedom of speech and association, and a widespread (if still contested) franchise. But we believe that if policymaking is dominated by powerful business organizations and a small number of affluent Americans, then America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened.

responses to their critics:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/05/23/critics-challenge-our-portrait-of-americas-political-inequality-heres-5-ways-they-are-wrong/
>In 2014 we published a study of political inequality in America, called “Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens.” Our central finding was this: Economic elites and interest groups can shape U.S. government policy — but Americans who are less well off have essentially no influence over what their government does. This was in line with a good deal of previous research by Larry Bartels, Martin Gilens, Larry Jacobs and Benjamin Page, Elizabeth Rigby and Gerald Wright, and others. But for some reason, our paper caught the media’s attention in a way that few academic journal articles do.

>>2266664
americans control America. The actions of the American govt perfectly represents its people, buncha degenerate consumerist warmongers
ALL OF THEM

>>2266674
Old money dynasties aren't that mighty and powerful anymore

The Answer is literally the people who own the land that people use for businesses - so who makes decisions in amerca? well politicians do, but those who own the most private land and who have the most money in america get their interests percieved more than the average american does

so who owns america? Corporations - Shell Gas, McDonalds, Walmart, Amazon, Ford, Honda, IBM, Google etc… everyone who owns a bunch of land needed for business owns america

>>2276768
>old money families arent that powerful anymore
wrong
old money families are in the same runnings as every other large business in America - those who inherent wealth are able to use their capital to invest more into ventures that can potentially fail while still being able to recoup the losses

yes, not every old money family survives exactly - but I would say 90% of old money can still be traced to Americas (and global) bourgeois-fuckheads

in other words the whole "America is the land of oppurtunity" thing is a propaganda by industrialists like Ford to soften the blow that no- not everyone does have an opportunity.

this is why you don't see
<non white land owners who own businesses
<women land owners who own businesses

Anyone have that book where it's the names and biographies of the wealth managers. The idea posited in the book was that they were just the front men and accountants, and that we don't really know who actually owns the wealth for real.

>>2266664
Silicon valley and AIPAC and a bunch of other corporate interest groups. Follow the big money donations.

>Who controls America?
the republican oligarchs

The bourgeoisie.
That's really all there is to it, no conspiracy or anything.

>>2266687
So sorta like what the Heritage Foundation has going on.

>>2276933
forgot vidrel

>>2266672
noooooooooo that's too simple we HAVE to make it into an idpol thing