Why are you not in a party, a union ,a group ? Etc why do you think you can do anything alone ? For socialism to work you need socialization. If you want to fight the whole capitalist system alone why?
>>2269321what they is 'leftcom'
what I hear is 'if I cannot have everything everywhere immediately, I will sit with nothing'
what I see is a great proponent of the status quo
>>2269340>mass lineif you are in the burgerreich or EVROPA fucking give up.
wypipo are allergic to gomunizma
>>2269305I don’t live in a region where one of my country’s parties are active and aren’t interested in trying to start a group with local university students/PMC and shepherding them from petty bourgeois movementism.
I’m also not Lenin or under the delusion that the struggle depends on me. Conditions here need to deteriorate severely before working class consciousness will re-ignite.
>>2269372yes i rather notice this issue even going back to lenin himself.
There is a huge line on the idea that you're "refining" the product more and more - but very little question asked as to whether or not the rest of the movement at the time had an important effect.
Honestly i think we could get a lot more out of a few people doing Luigi's and the like to sow more chaos and fear and distrust in the upper class, weed out people who are effective but cowardly.
>>2269499fuck you democrackka
>>2269500fuck you degenerate
>>2269305pretty much every western communist party is a LARP
unions, tenants unions, other organizations with a single direct purpose are good. when a union fails to secure gains for workers, when a tenants union gets everyone evicted, and so on, you know that it is a
bad organization that has
failed. when a party has achieved less than nothing after 30 years, you say "yes, but their line on X is good"
class consciousness must be substantially raised before a party is worthwhile, and a party is not a worthwhile means of raising class consciousness because a microparty has too many fundamentally contradictory goals and perverse incentives. (do you think the average party leadership are more interested in the slow, boring work of building class consciousness and helping the - fundamentally unaesthetic - modern working class, or do you think they're more interesting in LARPing as their historical heroes by writing wordy essays about how "the working class" condemns meme-topic-of-the-week?)
>>2269813Have you considered not being a retard?
Would you be willing to be entirely celibate and mask your behaviours 24/7 so that you could join a party that despises you for an uncontrollable aspect of your being?
No, I will not join a party that refuses to recognise me as equal a comrade as any other.
>>2269841Yeah good luck winning over the proletariat with that kind of talk.
If you can't put aside you hatred of minorities, then I'm sorry but Communism isn't for you.
>>2269876From my understanding the CPC doesn't prevent LGBT people from being party members. Unlike say, the Greek KKE, or the British CPGB-ML.
You're really showing your true ideology by your use of that slur.
>>2269881"bourgeois decadence" sexual metaphysics is reactionary and unmaterialistic nonsense.
You is not a marxist or a communist, how you fuckers can be considered ML, when you propagate the same shit defended by deniers of material conditions or theorical fallacies of marxism.
You is another /pol/yp faggot posing as one, you support communism out of contrarianism, which is fitting for a shithole like leftypol to be honest
>>2269881Your post speaks for itself.
The existence of LGBT people outside of the West isn't the modern creation of Western imperialism.
LGBT people have always existed, in all societies. This is well established material fact, supported by current social, historically and archeological proof.
Belief that homosexuality is a Western problem and was spread to the rest of the world by Western people was created by Far-Right fundamentalists and theocrats in African and Islamic societies in order to justify the hatred, lynching, and execution of gay people.
And China isn't a country of rampant hatred for gay people like you fantasise, and that wouldn't be a good thing if it were true. If you had ever been to China you would know that there's lots of openly gay Chinese people.
Instead you view China through the lense of deeply shallow and deeply racist stereotypes and caricatures.
You believe China to be less socially developed, to hold outmoded and socially reactionary opinions, and you believe that them holding such opinions as a positive.
And no, gay people are not paedophiles.
You reek of Hitler particles through and through.
>>2269305I'm pretty mentally ill and kind of a fascist TBH. I read theory to figure out why I'm kind of fucked up. I volunteer at a radical bookstore sometimes. But I'm pretty burnt out. It's not just that I'm autistic ADHD and trans. I don't really know how to explain my inability to play well with others. Capitalism is shit and capitalism is very alienating for certain types of people. I feel a little more in control of my life now that I have a basic grasp of Marxist theory anyhow.
Also while I find Marxism-Leninism convincing I absolutely detest the sort of people who get involved in political activism. I put it down to all the trauma but I find that kind of altruism really slimy and violating.
TLDR
I'm a bitter incel who is deconstruction-maxxing.
>>2269305Are you new here? Leftypol isn't exactly like IRL groups, but it rhymes. Put 30 communists in a room and they'll start arguing pedantry and calling each other petit bourgeois because they support something Marx CLEARLY denounces in letter #234 to Engels…..
I gave up on groups a while ago, I only come here to learn what not to do.
>>2269309No contradiction, join a nazi acc org.
>b-but im [minority]It literally does not matter. There are so many trans, latino, greek, jewish, etc. people in these groups.
>>2269312>fall_of_eagles-nightmare_scene.wav>>2269314No contradiction, 2/10 memepost
>>2269323>i'll join one in a few years……………..why "a few years"? Why not this month? vid is 4 U.
>>2269331kill yourself.
Lenin did not start with Iskra. Read a fucking book. You're too old to be acting this stupid.
>>2269338Yes it is.
>>2269342mfw north east europe is not white
mfw spanish people pretending to be cubans aren't white>>2269347You know people change parties, right? Plenty of people switched between bolshies and menshies between 1903 and 1917 for example.
Unless they're already about to take over, you have decades to choose the winner.
>>2269356>The SystemWhere did you get your information on states, fucking
Siege?
>>2269363Found the one true Trotsky understander.
>>2269827>Would you be willing to be entirely celibateJust don't have sex in front of them lol.
Or just join a better party. How a party behaves matters far more than which hundred-year-old dick they claim they suck. That shit is often nominal anyway.
>>2269830So do plenty of people in my party. There is plenty of work that needs doing which doesn't involve social interfacing. In fact, there are jobs that people with autism are far
more suited for.
>>2270848The point is to change it.
>>2270849I am literally in a room with over 30 communists every week and no-one has acted like that yet. Anyone pulling that wrecker shit will probably be told to fuck off.
>>2270993I sometimes wonder if this site shutting down would get people outside. But I know it doesn't work like that.
>>2271017There absolutely is, comr8.
Years is a
lot of time. Your effort locally isn't magically worthless if you move away. That's years of experience, and if you put some effort in, years of skill development that will make you useful once you arrive. Your experience is also especially useful as a new perspective to European groups, who can learn about how the conditions in your local area compare and contrast to theirs (I especially value listening to Chinese students visiting our our while they do a few university courses here, as well as comrades who have come from the Middle East).
And even disregarding all of that, communism is an international movement. We live in a global system where the workers of one country impact the others, just ask anyone who works in shipping for more direct examples. Your work isn't wasted just because you moved, it's still progress.
>>2271066Fair question, good ask.
Building the Party vol. 1 is covers that journey and it's to the point, not too dry or deep.
Just ignore the one or two sentences about M-Ls near the start, it mostly refers to non-academic USSR propaganda and the British party. >>2271141>>2271142>>2271148Begging for it I see. I hope you are ready for this
and lubed up.
>>2269509>DegenerateSnore!
>>2269305IDK prob cus im not a tradie im a middle KKKlass KKKollege student
>>2269841LOL this fucking guy
>>2271658Just do it anyway most of those people r walking contradictions, I've known arab tr@ns who have gone around coalescing christian nationalist groups from larpers before, acceleration and agitation is within your grasp whenever you want to reach it and even if it doesn't do anything the experience is good
>>2271126I don’t know what to call dorks pretending to be 20th Century revolutionaries other than LARPers
>>2271109I think leftypol MLs should stay as far away from other people as possible
Honestly organizing with a book club would be best for most of you since you would get the profound experience of doing nothing but still feeling important
I don’t care what yall do, I was explaining why I’m personally not a LARPer
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