50 years after the Vietnamese victory over the American war of imperialist aggression, what do you make of the current situation in the Marxist-Leninist state?
Is Viet Nam still building a road towards Communism? Can capitalist structures be successfully harnessed to benefit socioeconomic development within a Socialist state?
Or are all Marxist-Leninist projects all doomed to be little more than corrupt State Capitalism, with the former revolutionary vanguard serving as a new bourgeois ruling elite?
Are we witnessing a project of bourgeois national liberation that builds a new Capitalism with only a few meagre Socialist appendages, a few splashes of Socialist paint to cover the real system of machinery at work?
>>2269814>HAHA WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU BECAUSE WE OWN AND MAKE NOTHING AND WE ARE HAPPYkek what a slave
yes I'm glad Vietnam and all other socialist countries have the ability to manufacture shoes which are needed by every human being on the planet and I'm also glad that Americans don't know how to make anything anymore besides marvel movies
>>2269840Amerifarts need to use Klarna to pay the denbts on the food they order (in rates of course), need to drop half their paycheck being a rentcuck and afterwards do a wholesome Walmart dance then get a heart attack and pay $50000 for a hospital visist.
Meanwhile "poor" Nguyen has literally a beach view of a James Bond movie and then eats some nice $0.3 Pho (his purchasing power is 5x of the median amerifart)
>>2269798That's Georgism when the state owns the land. It's geo-libertarianism. It's not bad actually. It's not socialism.
Anyhow most of the AES admit that they're state capitalist. State capitalism is great IMO but it's not socialism.
I'm a Lesbian Dengist. AES is the highest stage of capitalism. But there will still need to be a revolution to complete the transition to socialism. Hopefully, much less violence and more peaceful.
>>2270043>There should be better and improved theory that isn't stuck in the 19th centuryI agree.Where is this "better and improved theory?" Because the ideological underpinning of the resolution appears to be orthodox neoliberalism
>countries who do this will end up like underdevelopedDo what? Doing actual Socialist programs to transform society intro a socialist one? Doing developmentalist politics that expands the state sector, instead of the private sector? "Eliminate biased perceptions, ideologies, views, and attitudes towards" planning, the state sector, and historically successful economic policies that align more with building socialism.
>>2270080"Developmental politics"
Developmental policies
>>2269781Vietnam was a bourgeois nation state fighting for its infancy. So yes they won.
On MLibs think they somehow defeated a global mode of production
>From FY 2016 to FY 2021, the United States authorized the permanent export of $29.8 million in defense articles to Vietnam via Direct Commercial Sales (DCS). The top USML categories were XII: Fire Control / Night Vision ($25.5 million), XI: Electronics ($1.8 million), and I: Firearms and related articles ($777,592). The Department also has over $118 million in active Foreign Military Sales with Vietnam.
>From FY 2017 to FY 2023, Vietnam received approximately $104 million in State Department-funded security assistance under the Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program. Vietnam also received a separate $81.5 million of FMF in FY 2018 to support the Indo-Pacific Strategy.
>FMF primarily supports Vietnam’s maritime security and domain awareness capacity building efforts, and their efforts to maintain the rights and freedoms specified under international law of the sea. Key projects for the Vietnam Coast Guard include the transfer, refurbishment, and sustained maintenance of two former U.S. Coast Guard cutters under the Excess Defense Articles program, T-6 trainer aircraft, and the purchase of MetalShark patrol boats. The cutters currently represent the most significant major defense transfer between the United States and Vietnam. We look forward to continuing to expand our security cooperation with Vietnamhttps://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-vietnam/ >>2270080>I agree.Where is this "better and improved theory?"My suggestion has been for years a worker owned cooperative market economy as a transitional phase into full planned economy that needs years of trial error in smaller projects that operate outside markets. Its close to Titoism but Richard Wolff has a more modern approach with the propaganda slogan of democratic ownership of the work place. But this is just my opinion and my post was about encouraging fellow comrades to develop theory beyond Marxism-Leninism and not to force my own personal preferences when it comes to political economics.
>Because the ideological underpinning of the resolution appears to be orthodox neoliberalismI wouldnt go this far when it comes to judging Vietnam or China. Both have massive state owned industries that operate on markets. Free trade and foreign capital investment is more than necessary to develop 3rd world countries and in China this approach has been a massive success as it is now the 2nd largest economy in the world.
>Do what? Doing actual Socialist programs to transform society intro a socialist one? Doing developmentalist politics that expands the state sector, instead of the private sector? "Eliminate biased perceptions, ideologies, views, and attitudes towards" planning, the state sector, and historically successful economic policies that align more with building socialism.All of these are good suggestions.
>>2271065okay general secretary nikita khruschev, according to you, stalin was a ultra dogmatist…
but revisionism is bad
bukharinism is bad.
and capitalist restoration is bad.
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