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>For years, theorists have posited the onset of a “Chinese century”: a world in which China finally harnesses its vast economic and technological potential to surpass the United States and reorient global power around a pole that runs through Beijing.

>That century may already have dawned, and when historians look back they may very well pinpoint the early months of President Trump’s second term as the watershed moment when China pulled away and left the United States behind.


>It doesn’t matter that Washington and Beijing have reached an inconclusive and temporary truce in Mr. Trump’s trade war. The U.S. president immediately claimed it as a win, but that only underlines the fundamental problem for the Trump administration and America: a shortsighted focus on inconsequential skirmishes as the larger war with China is being decisively lost.


>Mr. Trump is taking a wrecking ball to the pillars of American power and innovation. His tariffs are endangering U.S. companies’ access to global markets and supply chains. He is slashing public research funding and gutting our universities, pushing talented researchers to consider leaving for other countries. He wants to roll back programs for technologies like clean energy and semiconductor manufacturing and is wiping out American soft power in large swaths of the globe.


<China’s trajectory couldn’t be more different.


>It already leads global production in multiple industries — steel, aluminum, shipbuilding, batteries, solar power, electric vehicles, wind turbines, drones, 5G equipment, consumer electronics, active pharmaceutical ingredients and bullet trains. It is projected to account for 45 percent — nearly half — of global manufacturing by 2030. Beijing is also laser-focused on winning the future: In March it announced a $138 billion national venture capital fund that will make long-term investments in cutting-edge technologies such as quantum computing and robotics, and increased its budget for public research and development.


<The results of China’s approach have been stunning.


>When the Chinese start-up DeepSeek launched its artificial intelligence chatbot in January, many Americans suddenly realized that China could compete in A.I. But there have been a series of Sputnik moments like that.


>The Chinese electric carmaker BYD, which Mr. Trump’s political ally Elon Musk once laughed off as a joke, overtook Tesla last year in global sales, is building new factories around the world and in March reached a market value greater than that of Ford, GM and Volkswagen combined. China is charging ahead in drug discoveries, especially cancer treatments, and installed more industrial robots in 2023 than the rest of the world combined. In semiconductors, the vital commodity of this century and a longtime weak point for China, it is building a self-reliant supply chain led by recent breakthroughs by Huawei. Critically, Chinese strength across these and other overlapping technologies is creating a virtuous cycle in which advances in multiple interlocking sectors reinforce and elevate one another.


<Yet Mr. Trump remains fixated on tariffs. He doesn’t even seem to grasp the scale of the threat posed by China. Before the two countries’ announcement last Monday that they had agreed to slash trade tariffs, Mr. Trump dismissed concerns that his previous sky-high tariffs on Chinese goods would leave shelves empty in American stores. He said Americans could just get by with buying fewer dolls for their children — a characterization of China as a factory for toys and other cheap junk that is wildly out of date.


>The United States needs to realize that neither tariffs nor other trade pressure will get China to abandon the state-driven economic playbook that has worked so well for it and suddenly adopt industrial and trade policies that Americans consider fair. If anything, Beijing is doubling down on its state-led approach, bringing a Manhattan Project-style focus to achieving dominance in high-tech industries.


>China faces its own serious challenges. A prolonged real estate slump continues to drag on economic growth, though there are signs that the sector may be finally recovering. Longer-term challenges also loom, such as a shrinking work force and an aging population. But skeptics have been predicting China’s peak and inevitable fall for years, only to be proved wrong each time. The enduring strength of a state-dominated Chinese system that can pivot, change policy and redirect resources at will in service of long-term national strength is now undeniable, regardless of whether free-market advocates like it.


>Mr. Trump’s blinkered obsession with short-term Band-Aids like tariffs, while actively undermining what makes America strong, will only hasten the onset of a Chinese-dominated world.


>If each nation’s current trajectory holds, China will likely end up completely dominating high-end manufacturing, from cars and chips to M.R.I. machines and commercial jets. The battle for A.I. supremacy will be fought not between the United States and China but between high-tech Chinese cities like Shenzhen and Hangzhou. Chinese factories around the world will reconfigure supply chains with China at the center, as the world’s pre-eminent technological and economic superpower.


>America, by contrast, may end up as a profoundly diminished nation. Sheltered behind tariff walls, its companies will sell almost exclusively to domestic consumers. The loss of international sales will degrade corporate earnings, leaving companies with less money to invest in their businesses. American consumers will be stuck with U.S.-made goods that are of middling quality but more expensive than global products, owing to higher U.S. manufacturing costs. Working families will face rising inflation and stagnant incomes. Traditional high-value industries such as car manufacturing and pharmaceuticals are already being lost to China; the important industries of the future will follow. Imagine Detroit or Cleveland on a national scale.


>Avoiding that grim scenario means making policy choices — today — that should be obvious and already have bipartisan support: investing in research and development; supporting academic, scientific and corporate innovation; forging economic ties with countries around the world; and creating a welcoming and attractive climate for international talent and capital. Yet the Trump administration is doing the opposite in each of those areas.


>Whether this century will be Chinese or American is up to us. But the time to change course is quickly running out.


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/19/opinion/china-us-trade-tariffs.html

>>2275059
<Tired and dressed white horse loser
>HUMONGOUS and SWOLE naked black horse winner
I know its more about "dark horse" expression and the dark horse is supposed to be cybernetic… but I smell racebait still. And if it's my conditioning, then it's still the MSM's fault for that.

>>2275063
The author of the article is Chinese

https://www.kyleichan.com/

This was published today by the new York times.

First time I have ever seen them post such a headline

we live in very interesting times. an article like this would have been laughed out of the editorial office just a decade ago
>If each nation’s current trajectory holds, China will likely end up completely dominating high-end manufacturing, from cars and chips to M.R.I. machines and commercial jets. The battle for A.I. supremacy will be fought not between the United States and China but between high-tech Chinese cities like Shenzhen and Hangzhou. Chinese factories around the world will reconfigure supply chains with China at the center, as the world’s pre-eminent technological and economic superpower.

>America, by contrast, may end up as a profoundly diminished nation. Sheltered behind tariff walls, its companies will sell almost exclusively to domestic consumers. The loss of international sales will degrade corporate earnings, leaving companies with less money to invest in their businesses. American consumers will be stuck with U.S.-made goods that are of middling quality but more expensive than global products, owing to higher U.S. manufacturing costs. Working families will face rising inflation and stagnant incomes. Traditional high-value industries such as car manufacturing and pharmaceuticals are already being lost to China; the important industries of the future will follow. Imagine Detroit or Cleveland on a national scale.


>>2275068
Burger Born Chinese are Falun Gong freaks or Guomindang enthusiasts

China will be dominant because it's 92% Han Chinese
US will be irrelevant because it's 60% mystery meat

China will run in the inherent contradictions of late stage capitalism and will begin to export manufacturing to the south in the coming decades though while India will pick up the slack, so a bit early to speak of a chinese century although they should be dominant trough its middle

The top comments appear to agree. Imagine this. One of the most imperialist papers in the west saying the west is losing to China and westerners who are told to think of their country as #1 from childhood agree

What a vibe shift

>>2275184
Maoist race science strikes again

>>2275195
>late stage capitalism
Fascist buzzword

>>2275200
NYT is the main liberal paper though so it's not surprising that their readers would agree that le orange man is ruining the otherwise wholesome and good American empire.

>>2275209
Is it really? Well I meant that the economy will be developped and face the same conundrums all developped capitalist economies face.

>Large country with plentyful access to resources, one of the largest populations on earth and the political will to invest in the infrastructure to trade worldwide…
<…would have a larger economy than another which, same factors considered, has a third of the former's population and refuses to invest in infrastructure.
Shocking

>>2275209
>Fascist buzzword
Why is it fascist? It implies capitalism is a terminal illness, in it's later stages.

>>2275220
>>2275227
Get your theory from Marx instead of reddit comments

>>2275059
It would be lucky to survive the rest of the decade. Despite the glitz and glamour, China is under prepared for the future trials that await. The country at the end of the day still acts like it’s the 20th century, just like all the rest. It is too focusing on capitalism to deal the existential crises that surround it.

America won’t become irrelevant, it will be dead. It lands and peoples reutilized for other projects. There won’t be a possibility of another American dominated century.

Quite frankly, the whole Chinese/American century is quite silly. Literally just a rehash of the Cold War. That’s all they could come up with. Cold War 2. We have human extinction on the table and this is what they come up with. They need to be sealing up cities to protect them from the new climate, and they’re too busy debating about electric cars (not even replacing car centric infrastructure).

Saudi Arabia truly is representative of the capitalist world in the 21st century. All that hubris, all that false sense of invincibility, all that decadence and wastefulness mixed with false eco positivity. They’ll be on top of the world until they aren’t. They’ll exclaim dominance over the other states until they aren’t too non existent to do so. Their folly and the consequences of their own actions will consume them no matter what. Where they should tremble and adapt, they instead stand prideful and falter. They are truly doomed.

>>2275068
is what he is saying true or false

>>2275247
Lol no. Too much sci fi.

>>2275548
Unfortunately he isn’t wrong. Despite china’s achievements, like every other country, it isn’t necessarily prepared to deal with existential problems like the centuries of industrial pollution permanently wrecking the biosphere, age demographic instability, the deteriorating global security situation, or climate change. The latter they’ve done some work with, but the former three are too large and too expensive that it’s unrealistic for them to make meaningfully large preparations this late with all the domestic problems they’re facing.

That horse-race picture shows exactly why I hate these "my country is the bestest in the world" BSDM sessions. Competition is not a good thing. We should be working together. But it seems like nobody is interested in looking at it like that.

>>2275247
>We have human extinction on the table and this is what they come up with.

To be fair humans really won't go fully extinct, sure we might have like a Toba Supereruption like genetic bottleneck situation with climate change but we might survive. Besides, even if we do go extinct, all life eventually goes extinct anyway.

All civilizations eventually fall and collapse and something new comes in to replace it. It's really just the cycle of things.

Why is noone replying to >>2275220?


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