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The Chinese are not dedicated Marxists, but they are using Marxist lens when approaching their economy.
When their country reaches a sufficient level of development, they will throw Marxism out of the window completely and become a liberal democracy.

Don't you agree? Marxism is just a tool for them.

>Marxist lens
Lassalen*

it's like they understand how to control the laws of value in the same way we can use the laws of physics how we like in a controlled enviroment.

do a revolution in your own country

Wromg. The Chinese Communists are most advanced Communists to exist, history's most advanced applicators of Marxism-Leninism.

>>2284369
Socialism in one household

>When their country reaches a sufficient level of development, they will throw Marxism out of the window completely and become a liberal democracy.

I am sorry but you are a bit late, by around 30 years. No one fucking believes that anymore, not even the deluded Western liberal establishment and their think tanks. There is a reason why the world is preparing for war, OP.

The Chinese were never devout Marxists, since Mao‘s writings amalgamated to only Marxist word salad while devoid of dialectical materialist philosophy, and Deng of course is not a Marxist. The Chinese are nationalists with a culture hung up on the past. Their population is soulless and drone like. Despite all the alleged Marxist education they receive they still conceive of politics and society like liberals.

They'll continue to use Marxism to preserve instead of abolish anything.

>>2284607
Wrong. The system of exploitation of man by man has been abolished in Communist China.
>>2284428
Wrong. Mao and Deng was perhaps the most dialectical marxists.

>The Chinese are not dedicated Marxists, but they are using Marxist lens when approaching their economy.

What do you mean by this exactly? How can you not be a Marxist while viewing the economy from a Marxist lens?

Soviet union was good because it lost and therefore it has martyr points like Jesus.
China is le bad because its still standing and even winning.

Sorry sweatie I don't make the rules, western communism is about martyr worship because its just christianity.

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>>2284358
>no evidence
im gonna have to say "fuck off, read a book and then come back", comr8

the CCP are the greatest and most successful Nationalist party in the history of the world. Their success is due to their using of Marxist analysis.
The Chinese civil war was in fact between 2 nationalist parties, the Cucked Braindead Nationalists (KMT) vs the Chad Scientific Nationalists (CCP)

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>Marxism is just a tool for them.
What the fuck else is it then? An object of worship?

whats wrong with the other six or seven anti-china threads?

>>2284358
>The Chinese are not dedicated Marxists
Nah. Ther are marxists in China. Just say that the CPC is not dedicated to Marxism. Don't be a nationalist.

>>2284369
>>2284909

>>2284358
>they will throw Marxism out of the window completely and become a liberal democracy.
Yes, yes, and the economy will collapse and we'll repeat the end of history, blah blah blah.
Don't any of you all get tired of spouting the same amount of Fukuyamist bogus?

>>2285025
the thread is bait but i wouldn't say it's unreasonable to think that the chinese are trending towards becoming a standard liberal democracy

>>2285029
i always find these kind of comments odd. when did this trend start? is it increasing or decreasing or has it been at a constant level?

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>>2284428
>Chinese are nationalists with a culture hung up on the past. Their population is soulless and drone like.

>>2284428
>The Chinese were never devout Marxists, since Mao‘s writings amalgamated to only Marxist word salad while devoid of dialectical materialist philosophy
Truth nuke Mao was a retard

>>2285031
>when did this trend start?
about 1977 or so, not to say that the pre-77 state of things was much better but it was more or less a worse version of the soviet system applied to china
>is it increasing or decreasing or has it been at a constant level?
it depends, in the 80s it increasing at a slow but steady level, from the 90s until the early 2010s it accelerated, and from then until about 2020 it receded, then is starting to steadily grow again

>>2285042
>then is starting to steadily grow again
any examples?

>>2285052
more recently, i can think of the fact that the current premier is even more of a reformist than the premier before him, and not to mention a greater crackdown on the new left in china as well

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>When their country reaches a sufficient level of development, they will throw Marxism out of the window completely and become a liberal democracy.
They've already been liberalizing because of economic slumps that stopped their trajectory of overtaking the USA. That's the important thing too, because it shows when faced with hardship, they choose illiberal-liberalism.

And the people that unironically believe "socialism by 20XX" are dumber than bots. All they can do is call everything propaganda. The second image literally shows it's a bourgeois state. It's the same delusion as people who think Vietnam is even remotely communist just because they wave a flag around.

But suburban, internet addicted "communists" need a false hope to cling to. They need it to keep the larp going. At best, it's Lassallean bullshit but I'd argue it doesn't get there.

>>2284358
>When their country reaches a sufficient level of development
They have far exceeded the level of development nessessary for a liberal democracy
>they will throw Marxism out of the window completely and become a liberal democracy.
They have far exceeded the level of development that a liberal democracy could feasably function under.
>Marxism is just a tool for them.
Marxism is a tool in the way a keyboard is just a tool, you never stop using one, you only expand and improve upon it.

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Lassalleans have won, we lost. It's over

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>>2284856
Marxism is not a tool to fix capitalism, you would know this if you read his works, or even compendiums to his works, he vaguely alludes to it, but among other things Marx believes in a full destruction to the system of labor as a need to commodify to live for itself, by just "fixing capitalism" using his ideas, you aren't just utopian, you might as well just be a Nazi.


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