We're in an incredibly difficult and interesting moment of the struggle right now. Western governments are flailing and increasingly sliding towards more overt forms of oppression, and they're transparently incompetent at it. They're unpopular and it's only going to get worse with the self destruction of the American economy.
The fact that individualist terrorists like Luigi are internet folk heroes shows that there is a lot of sympathy out there for class violence. But for most people, there aren't really any good options for participating in the fight unless they're suicidal and the growing trend of assassinations is disconnected from an organized vanguard. Assassins are so used to turning into imprisoned or dead martyrs that they don't even make a serious effort to try to escape arrest or to organize more than a single incident. Write your manifesto, surrender immediately afterwards, collect your 15 minutes of fame. It's Aaron Bushnell setting himself on fire with slightly more casualties. At the same time, any legally sanctioned "organized vanguard" is full of feds and completely useless. The PSL, DSA, CPUSA, Bob Avakian, whatever have years of experience succeeding at fuck all and getting ignored as useless larpers or acting as sheepdogs to herd votes for liberals. The story around the developed world is the same. The endless protest marches aren't doing much either and the George Floyd riots were cool but they were ultimately disorganized failures.
We need a way to avoid these failed patterns while building on their strong points. Obviously, adventurism can work for gaining support but there's nowhere to channel it. There are some good arguments for a hybrid between lone wolves and traditional cell networks in the form of affinity groups of disconnected cells or individuals with shared methods, targets, and propaganda. There could even be a central propaganda arm disconnected from acts done in their name. While it would be a security improvement, and it would beat random individuals, it still suffers from a lack of cohesive organization. Make something too tightly organized that's actually militant and they'll come down on it like the Black Panthers. Cell networks are historically useful but investigators will try to work their way to the top. What might work?
>>2287805If you've built a 'cell' you're almost certainly already going to get arrested before even the act.
USA is an incredibly atomized and individual society, that's heavily surveilled with high, high, high levels of snitching when people are arrested, people don't have a silence in-front of the cops culture in the USA.
What is the point of armed action or organized armed action, I should say, if none of the pundits, media people, political parties, or leftists with clout will have your back? We saw how every single organization and pundit acted in relation to this most recent shooting, which was total disavowal. We do not support violence. Violence is never acceptable part of the discourse. No, no, no, no, no. We don't do that. That's not something we do. We're electoral-based. We're trying to get votes. We're going to get voted in, and we're going to make the system change. That's counter-revolutionary, right? We know it's counter-revolutionary, but every single pundit and political party, aside from a very small handful, took that stance, both with Luigi and with the most recent shooter, which is to say, if you don't have the media, if you don't have a propaganda network, if you don't have people who are able to push your network and able to push you as an ethical and moral response to regime's violence and have your back with it, you're not going to be successful. I have been watching these little lone wolf events, and that's been my big thought. How many of these people who are making their living doing entertainment as a leftist are going to come out and be like, yes, I think it's good that they just took a National Guard armory? Not any of them, because they're going to lose their fucking careers. They're going to lose their place in the system. You think they want to lose that sweet streaming money? No. Something to think about, food for thought.
>>2287977>Oh, I suppose their vandalism is somewhat based. But I'm not sure they've seriously scared their main target (Elbit) enough for it to matter.1. It is very successful actually, to pretend it doesn't bother these companies enough to matter is just a lie.
2. UoF is not PA!. UoF has actually done none of these things. It's far more likely than not a fed honeypot.
>>2287980That’s my point, it’s strangling their long-term viability
>>2287977Affecting the bottom line of some shareholders is literally the best you can hope for with limited manpower and no mass base or powerful connections. Only time will tell if a strategy of tension is correct but I won’t be surprised if those pursuing it go the way of the Russian SRs.
>>2287986> But how many Elbit engineers have quit their jobs out of genuine fear for the safety of their families? IDK but also i dont' care about this one tbh.
>Have any of their offices been permanently shut down?Off-hand; Hydrafeed, Dean Group International, L&B Plating and other suppliers have stopped supplying Elbit or subsid's after actions. Elbit lost it's largest contract with the UK government, at least one bank had to divest from Elbit, as well as multiple factories literally being put out of action for periods of time due to the severity of the 'Vandalism'.
There are probably more if you were to look it up, this is just what i half-remember tbf. And that's just PA, there are other similar but unrelated to PA actions that have gotten results. There is not really a lot of question left about if it is a successful strategy, honestly most of the seething over it online just comes out of it being too close to the anarchist space for some people to handle.
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