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Why was after the fall of the Soviet Union the West still hostile towards Russia? Aren‘t they both capitalist now? Didn‘t Russia try to be cooperative with the West until Putin made a U-turn a bit more than a decade ago? What great contradiction is there between Western bourgeoisie and Russian bourgeoisie for there to be such a conflict?

>>2289056
You’re asking why a group of terrorist states known to arm and fund proxy armies hellbent on destabilizing peaceful countries in the pursuit of power would be hostile towards a Slavic country that for a time was legitimately peaceful.

Because it was never about communism, it was about keeping Russia down

>>2289056
because russia continues it's 800 year tradition of trying to invade europe which is where the west is.
>>2289057
russia is not a slavic country

One divides into two. A global capitalist order is impossible at capitalism's current state of development. The Western Imperialists saw the fall of the Soviet Union as a time for primitive accumulation, basically colonization as described in Capital. But there was already a bourgeois in the post-Soviet states since they took power under KKKruschev. So they had to do normal late stage capitalist imperialism, which obviously the Russian bourgeois wouldn't allow. After that the Russian bourgeois graduated to Imperialism themselves, so even if individuals wanted cooperation between the U$A and Russia capitalist competition wouldn't allow it.

>>2289065
Go tell that to the same assholes responsible for funding and joining the nazi party or the actual millions of Slavic peoples that make up most of russias population. You can tell yourself that Russia is not Slavic to yourself. Personally, I’d take slavics any day from the west.

>>2289065
>800 year tradition of trying to invade europe
Put down the crackpipe Gunther. Russia was quite cooperative and peaceful in the Concert of Europe before WW1.

>>2289077
'ethnic' russians are a mongrelization of khazars and volga finns, after slaughtering off nowogrodians muscovites (as they were originally known as) assumed their identity to substantiate further invasions into eastern europe.(Rule 12 - low-quality reactionary content)

>>2289080
so how did it peacefully cooperate more than a 1000 km into europe from volga basin?

>>2289080
your issue isn't that's it's treated unfairly your issue is that when no longer a german colony it's treated for what it is

>>2289082
So like what nearly every surviving ethnic group has done by now? Ok. Still preferable over the literal terrorist states that exist near the North Atlantic.

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Because the winner takes it all

>>2289087
yes and no, very few other ethnic groups we wuz a completely different race

preferable to whom? definitely not to europeans or whomever russian aggression looms over

>Why was after the fall of the Soviet Union the West still hostile towards Russia?
Because everytime the west creates a puppet state the chance of the reactionary puppet striking back is 9 to 10

>>2289084
>>2289086
reddit tier bait

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>>2289094
Belongs in the same category as I said above, already 3, keep going leftypol

>>2289056
To your original question, I think a united Russia will, like a united China, always be able to threaten western hegemony due to sheer size and large control of natural resources which also allows them to be relatively independent, not good for globalization and porky.

>>2289110
I continue: The west basically wanted to plunder it and essentially make it a cheap resource colony, in fact Russia under Yeltsin was basically ok with it, the problem was he was against the dissolution of the country and still "pro-russia" in that sense. Putin then came and basically was the same with one really small difference: he demanded they treated them as an equal business partner and yeah… Western porky lost their shit lmao

>>2289056
russia being capitalist with its own oligarchy was not enough. oh no no, Russia had to be capitalist with western oligarchs. Russia had to be a colony of the west, anything else is not acceptable.

>>2289082
ukrainian hands typed this, I can tell

>>2289068
shame on you for being a gonzaloido

>>2289068
>>2289110
>>2289117
>>2289122
Alright, makes sense.

You believe in superimperialism which Lenin deboobked a century ago

>>2289179
*ultra imperialism

>>2289056
>Why was after the fall of the Soviet Union the West still hostile towards Russia? Aren‘t they both capitalist now?
Ok, Google, what was World War I?
Ok, Google, what is Russophobia?
Ok, Google, what is Imperialism?

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https://thomaspalley.com/?p=2537

>The lack of foreign policy independence meant Europe willingly supported the US-led post-Cold War eastward expansion of NATO. The US goal was to create a new world order in which the US would be hegemonic and no country could challenge it, as the Soviet Union had done. According to the masterplan outlined by former US National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski, that involved a three-step process. The first step was eastward NATO expansion to include former Warsaw Pact countries. The second step was further NATO expansion to include former Soviet republics. The third step would finish the process by dividing Russia into three states. 

THE GRAND CHESSBOARD
American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives
https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/BD/BD4CE651B07CCB8CB069F9999F0EADEE_Zbigniew_Brzezinski_-_The_Grand_ChessBoard.pdf

Pdf attached in case you don't want to go to glowsville.com

Also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

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he did everything short of sucking their cocks and they still hated him.

The West only briefly liked Russia:
1. When Tsarism ended (open invitation for western capitalism)
2. When it was doing all the work in WW2
3. When the USSR died and Russia got plundered

Really only just a few moments in history and all out of opportunism. Hostility toward Russia is not an exception but the rule in the west.


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