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Given that most governments are imposed on to citizens through armed force, it is the responsibility of citizens to separate and protect themselves from hostile societies and their own government. To do this, they would need to own weapons, home defence, their own homes, have their identities and personal information blocked hidden away from government and foreign entities, have their own places to store their belongings, and be in a physical state where they can fight. Depending on your beliefs, either none of this requires any change in economic policy, or if you’re a materialist, none of this requires an organized society-spanning revolt to force self defence in mass. Only that any government’s or really any armed group’s control over a population is kept to an absolute minimum under the legitimate threat that it would deal with armed resistance if it overstepped what its citizens or allies were willing to tolerate.

For some materialists, this armed society is the only one where any real socialist movements is possible, because any collective effort made in this society has material reasons to be near completely consensual among all members

>>2289069
>responsibility
you seem to be under the impression that politics is a matter of cherry-picking axioms from mainstream morality and then making (what you think is) a clever logical inference from there. I'm going to report this as low effort bait and hopefully it will be moved away from the main board

>>2289243
Tell that to the billions who’ve had to and still live under kleptocratic and blatantly extractive regimes between now and the Cold War era of dictators

>le government and citizen separation
libshit

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>>2289527
You can say stuff like that in your sleep

>>2289527
>>2289534
I guess it varies by situation. Most slave masters were probably chill tho cause happy workers are more productive.

>>2289527
holy idealism batman

>>2314027
worker happiness is completely unrelated to productivity
asking for workers rights under the reasoning that it will increase productivity is a liberal trap
reported for necrobumping your own shit thread

>>2289069
Nope. It's garbage liberalism.

>For some materialists, this armed society is the only one where any real socialist movements is possible

Those "some" should reconsider their chosen label, because they do not belong to it.

>>2314037
>>2289527
It's the truth. The harsh reality of life is that life itself is an aberration of reality. The world and nature itself is an evil and heartless place. Just look at how animals kill each other. Notice how any decency you find in nature is among humans or human run ecosystems. Nature is fucking evil so people would prefer to be living as slaves rather than as subjects of the whims of totalitarian evil nature.


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