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Not reporting is bourgeois


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So in short, I was born into a very big bourgeois family here in my country, im not talking upper middle class im talking about having control over a giant ass company that reaches nationwide with the other half of my family being filled with rich politicians, how the fuck do I get organized without looking like a fucking hypocrite or retard???

What are you too rich to google frederich engels

Friedrich Engels and Fidel Castro have laid out pretty good examples of what to do if you come from a bourgeois family.

>>2289807
Dude… Your parents probably didn't spend enough time with you, or had some retarded "well-socialized" ideals/principles that were either disconnected from reality or never properly explained, and you were punished or condescended to for deviating from them.

You're probably from a quality bloodline, and inherently superior to the proles. If you ever enter a blue collar setting you'll come to understand this quickly. The platonic ideal of the working class will crash into the reality of what the lumpenproletariat actually is.

Ideology is gay. Just focus on raising your kids to be part of the governing class, priming them to take the reins in whatever regime ends up replacing neoliberalism.

Family is everything. Your kids are its future, not your parents.

Good luck mate.

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>>2289818
Give dem amerikan 🤑$$ money NOW n they will translaet Karlos KKKafiero's Kapital into bulgerian (approved by Marx himself PBUH)

>>2289830
>>2289827
Can you not just write normally?

>>2289832
Why are anime uyghas like this?

fund mfs like me

>>2289858
You're a grifter, the least you could be doing is posting articles against the WOD 24/7 but you don't even do that.

>>2289807
give me money to live without working so I can talk about socialism and buy weed

do not waste a penny on this guy >>2289858 he isn't worth it


>>2289807
You could buy the leftypol merch and support the website.

>>2290493
Hhaha indeed my friend, I could not agree more!

I mean do you even have power if donald just messes around with what you can sell and to who and taxes you whenever he pleases?

>>2289872
Something's not right. This page doesn't exist.

>>2289807
Fund the orgs from behind the scenes, they will do the rest, not much else you can do other than keep reading theory

>>2289836
4chan and its consequences

>>2290538
might be the best answer, also very funny to imagine being the high up member of some org and then you find out your half your budget comes from a random heir to walmart or pizza hut

>>2289807
Give all your money to me, problem solved.

>>2289836
50% of anime/manga out especially these days is power fantasy wish-fulfillment. It's literally acts a propaganda arm for the Japanese Government.

>>2290608
delete the anime board

>>2289807
I was given shit for coming from a petit booj family. Honestly, it was really character forming to organize so I won't say you shouldn't do it.
If questioned, then explain how it's very telling that you're organizing because even through you come from such family, you're relatively powerless to do anything. Not to mention that the proletariat needs to organize itself for itself, not as some concession from the bourgeoisie, because that does not work.

When you get more money, then you can funnel it to orgs. Do it in secret and in an untraceable manner unless you want to get shot.

I think people misunderstand what goes into organizing and what organizing usually looks like. There's room for all sorts of contributions and the bulk of the work is rather mundane. My education and adeptness of technology helped somewhat. Also my capacity to educate myself due to excess leisure time and access to English language as well as native language learning material, unlike most of my comrades.

I translated some stuff like diagrams and learning aids.

use that money to industrialize your country to accelerate™ communism

>>2290608
bro the amount of Isekais that are just "I woke up with immortality,superpowers, a gazillion dollars and 12 bitches on my dick" is ridiculous.

>>2290626
>I translated some stuff like diagrams and learning aids.
reminds me of in the US alot of out parties were primarily immigrant based so you'd end up with second gen immigrant party members basically acting the translators and secretaries of first gen workers or how during the japanese occupation of Tianjin you'd have like one literate party members reading shit out to people and regaling them with tales of the 8th Route Army.

>>2290608
Unironically this, theres a whole documentary on youtube (backed with sources) about how the Japanese government decided to weaponize their media when they realized it was popular sometime in the late 80s as a means to accrue as much soft political power as humanly possible.
The Japanese government spends a TON of money on anime studios every year to ensure that even if their profits are low or nonexistent, they remain open if they produce watched shit. A lot of studios just operate at a perpetual loss, but produce popular stuff regardless and are kept open by the government.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy some good anime sloppa now and again, but it is indisputably state funded propaganda.

This has started to work its way into mainstream conciousness a little bit, it isn't exactly like Japan has even tried to hide these facts, but it has spawned some wild conspiracy theories about why extreme power fantasy / isekai / wish fullfilment in another life type stuff has become SO fucking forced the last 7-8 years.

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>>2290614
>>2290608
>>2289836
>oop looks like tranim- i mean anime is le chud, looks like you'll have to let us- I mean them have it.
You've been trying this since 2016, it didn't work. It could never work. It is a whole set of artistic conventions that define how 99% of people first learn to draw. This is a sillier version of those people on dying centralized social media ughing about how rare oil paintings are and that everything else is le DEI calarts duchamp banana.

>>2289807
Fund worker coops and buyouts
Some business failling in your area? Offer attractive loans to workers so they can buyout the falling business and keep it alive as a coop

>>2290626
>money to orgs
not OP but I regularly give my local trot orgs hundreds in cash since I'm not a member.
inb4 wah trot: the M–L orgs in my country are almost invisible and I have no strong feelings about the post-Lenin split

>>2289807
Engels. Be Engels. Just be Engels.

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Fight imperialism and capitalism and make socialist society in third-world.

>>2291633
Chances are there's MLs in the trot org anyway, grass touchers and even digital grass touchers don't give a shit as long as things get done.

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>how does one do socialism
By whipping your dick out and putting it in the society hole. Repeat until the white pee come out.

>>2291680
>>2291633
My ML org was really good, then I left (personal reasons) and a year or two after it went to shit, unrelated to me leaving. I would have probably been purged anyways along with all the good members. There's a trot org doing very good work, very serious and dedicated. I would 100% back them over the simulacrum radlib party that my ex-org became. In fact many of the purged members went to the trot org. Surprisingly, they don't really talk about muh trot vs Stalin like internet trots obsessed with Stalin, so it's not too bad. At least that's what my comrades tell me.

I moved to another city and there's an ML org, but they mostly get together and read news and do protests. I decided not to join. Instead I'm doing agitation at work and unionizing.

>>2291680
Wrong. No Communist Party can achieve anything if led by anti-Communist trotskyites. In Russia, anti-Marxist, Kautskyist views on questions of the theory of imperialism are spread by the enemies of socialism — the Mensheviks, Trotskyists, Bukharinists, and others. Denying the law of uneven development of capitalism in the epoch of imperialism, trotskyites poison the workers’ minds with disbelief in the possibility of the victory of socialism in a single country.
An essential condition for the success of socialist production, in any country, is the routing of the trotskyite elements. In Russia, The Communist Party won its fight for the industrialisation of the country in battle against the worst enemies of socialism, the Trotskyists and Bukharinists, who opposed to the Party’s general line of industrialising the country the line of converting the Soviet Union into an agrarian appendage of imperialist countries and tried to deflect the U.S.S.R. on to a capitalist path of development. The Communist Party rejected the hostile aims of the trotskyites, who proposed to industrialise by ruining the peasantry, and tried in this way to undermine the alliance of the working class and peasantry. The victory of the collective farm system was won in decisive struggle against the exploiting classes and their Trotskyist agents, who defended the kulaks in every possible way, combated the creation of collective and State farms and demanded the dissolution and abolition of the existing collective and State farms. The Communist Party routed the Trotskyist line of the exploitation and forcible expropriation of the peasantry by means of high prices for industrial goods and excessive taxes.

>>2291680
>Chances are there's MLs in the trot org anyway,
I wouldn't be surprised at all. At least one formal member indicated to me that they didn't even know about the creator of the org's tendency, and at one of their open annual conferences, a good-faith visitor openly said they were an M-L when asking a question about internationalism. The good thing about this org is that unlike other ones they don't spaz out when someone isn't perfectly aligned with them, Palestine conflict even brought a couple of visitors from the left faction of the socdem electoral party into the weekly open lecture/discussion/meetings, and members openly said that being tolerant and non-sectarian to visitors (not party members) was something they valued. They only person I know they've had to kick out was an antisemite (wasn't there that week).
although it was pretty fuckin funny when one of the chinese international students came along, for fun, in a store-bought PLA outfit. nothing happened but I could tell some of the members were a little awkward

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>>2291715
If you're comfortable, this sounds like a good storytime. I've never seen an org go to shit, only ones which already have, and it might be useful (or if nothing else, fascinating) to understand how it happens.

>Surprisingly, they don't really talk about muh trot vs Stalin like internet trots obsessed with Stalin, so it's not too bad.

Yeah, the most of the time the topic hasn't come up, the closest I've seen at a lecture was them critiquing the COMINTERN fucking over the CPC with the First United Front in 1920s.
Meanwhile, over at WSWS/SEP, picrel

>>2291716
>if led by anti-Communist trotskyites
Good thing I've never met any of those.

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>>2291745
hahaha no way

>>2291745
I wasn't there when the final purge happened, so I can only tell it as a second hand story. Actually, I think I was partly responsible for the fall.

There was an iconic moment in the history of our org. We made a resolution to hyper focus on growth. And fuck we grew. From a local org of about 7, we grew to nearly 50. I wasn't there for all of it. But with that growth came a lot of less than good people. A lot of college students. They aren't really experienced """ in the real world """. Ever since I joined I had a bit of hyper fixation on anti-idpol, this was many years ago. Idpol wasn't so bad, but I was paranoid and a bit autistic about it infecting the org. I feel like I was a bit responsible for the fall because I was the prime motivator to grow the org. I was the main advocate on that glorious day where we unanimously voted to focus on growth.

Eventually, the now majority college student party went down a path of behavior policing and this type of shit. Very formal and very academic. They purged all the old guard, who to be fair, did say problematic shit all the time. The old guard did gargantuan work setting up the org and doing this type of shit for years before the kids showed up. They even provided a place for the org to function even after being purged, which just goes to show their dedication.

The party became this cliquey anarchist style policed social club with Stalinist characteristics lmao.

We did a lot of things right, some things very right. Others wrong. It would be hard to summarize learnings in a short format.

>>2289807
Funding or even better arming communist groups. Porkies are highly valuable if they support the cause of de-porkysation.

>>2291806
>The party became this cliquey anarchist style policed social club with Stalinist characteristics lmao.
holy shit comrade you all made actually existing anarcho-stalinism.

>>2291806
When I say academic, I don't mean they were well read, rather that they were very nitpicky about shit and navel gazing too much.
>>2291956
😭😭😭 it's not good


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