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Not reporting is bourgeois


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Why don't you put your money where your mouth is?
Autists of all lands unite, you have nothing to lose but your gain$

The first general entirely dedicated to betting on political happenings (or lack thereof). For those too afraid to do dangerous adventurism, there is always venture capital. Chinese stocks, Russian stocks any & all that coincide with your political LARP are welcome here, post your most daring bets and show your autistic bravery here!
Think of this as wallstreetbets for the left wing of capital. Or just regular wallstreetbets on leftypol if you believe they're the successors to occupy wall street.

Poverty is not socialism. To be rich is glorious. -Deng Xiaoping

Basic links:
https://polymarket.com/
https://polymarketanalytics.com/
https://www.aljazeera.com/
https://www.bloomberg.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com/china/stock-market
https://robinhood.com/us/en/

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this seems likely though


Everyone go all in on BABA and TCEHY

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This is another easy one

>>2290816
HURRY UP ITS ALMOST JUNE, MAX OUT ON NO

FNMA

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fannie-freddie-otc-shares-climb-124202717.html

We're looking at a potential triple or more in the next year or two.

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>>2290816
not so fast, look what he wore to meet his german masters yesterday. that's pretty damn close to being a suit

>>2290822
That's not a suit

BYD stock up 54%, Tesla down 11% YTD 4 days ago the indian was right

>>2290828
up 102% in 1 year 563% in 5 years
Tesla doom is trve

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>>2290804
You can even bet "will Russian take X city by [date]" on Polymarket but I stay away from those because idk

I'm playing with these right now. There was a poll the other day showing Zohran catching up to Cuomo, and the Working Families Party endorsed him last night. Which makes me think an AOC endorsement is coming up. Maybe in a week. I doubt Zohran wins but he seems underpriced and might pop if AOC comes out for him, and I think she will. So there's one market that should resolve to yes, and another market where Zohran should rise some more.

That's my theory anyways.

Most of my winnings have been on the Canadian elections and India/Pakistan. I got in on Carney early, and bet on India striking Pakistan. Then there was another market on whether India would *invade* Pakisan and then bet no on that, and made a little more as the price on yes dropped as the conflict quieted down.

I don't like to bet on election night swings. A lot of people do this but I don't think it's worth the squeeze and you can quickly lose your ass doing that. Also never assume a candidate who is priced at 90c is going to win or won't take a plunge as a race tightens, so I don't like to just dump money on candidates at 90c on an assumption they'll win.

>>2290828
I had some Grindr stock that was doing well but I sold it.

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short gain$ NOW

>>2290838
AOC is going to endorse him next week and then his polls will shoot up. Go long on him, now.

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>>2290842
I'm already in.

I think the "trick" with this is identifying mismatches between trends and pricing. Polymarket traders also skew way to the right and their biases influence their decisions. They're not always wrong though. They just get emotionally invested. Also, unlike the stock market, irrational behavior on betting markets doesn't help political candidates stay solvent like they can companies, and the inevitable corrections also come much faster because they're tied to yes/no events.

On Canada, I think think a lot of "dumb" money went in on PP because he looked like a shoe-in at 90c earlier this year. It did look ike he was going to win in a landslide, but they didn't anticipate the beyond furious reaction to the tariffs, and didn't understand certain things about Canadian political culture or Carney's appeal. Once PP started diving, there was a lot of traders who were like "the CCP is rigging the market" (lol) as if the market was going to help Carney win. I wasn't playing around with this last year, but there were liberals who said that about a French whale who went all in on Trump, and he was correct, but the liberals thought the whale was skewing the market to create momentum to help Trump win the election. But I doubt that has any effect.

I do sell at a loss sometimes if I get spooked. But I'll take a loss if I'm up several times that somewhere else. Also didn't put any of my "own" money in initially, but some crypto I accumulated for using Brave and didn't know what to do with. My first real bet was on Biden pardoning Liz Cheney which was a YOLO move, and won that, which got the ball rolling.

>>2290804
Should've added kalshi for burgerreich citizens
https://kalshi.com/?category=politics

>>2290851
Can someone explain how this shit works?
I never gambled in my life except i bought a scratchcard once 20 years ago.


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>>2290962
Think sports betting but for politics and other things. It's a "predictions market" (which is essentially gambling) in which "traders" (betters) place yes/no bets on future events by buying "shares" of "yes" or "no" which are priced somewhere between 0 cents and 100 cents before the resolution. When events resolve "yes" then each share resolves to 100 cents, and no shares resolve to zero cents, or vice versa if the event did not happen (each "no" share goes to 100c and each "yes" share goes to zero).

For example, a market can be: who will win the U.S. presidential election? There are actually four options. You can buy Trump yes, or Trump no. Or Kamala yes, or Kamala no. If you buy 50 shares of "Trump yes" priced at 50c/share, then your $25 turns into $50 if he wins. You double your money. If he loses, you lose the $25.

And it works like a market so people can bid up or crash the price. What this means practically is people betting on events they think will either resolve "yes" or "no," or they play short-term fluctuations in the price, like they just expect the price to go up, and then they sell, rather than waiting for the resolution. An event that ultimately resolves "yes" can often go down in price because the betters get it wrong, which is very profitable for those who get it right.

The devil is also in the details. Like the "spread" (wider in low liquidity markets), or the details on the event itself. Like "will Zelensky wear a suit before June" is disputed because what a suit actually is was left kind of vague in the rules. There are some vague, shady "markets" like that.

And it's crypto-based. And you might have to use a VPN to use it because some countries don't allow it. And it's backed by Peter Thiel.

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More details. Here are the rules and the order book for the "nothing ever happens" market. (Which resolves "yes" – that nothing ever happens – if none of these five events happen. If one of these events happen, the market resolves to "no" because something happened). In the order book, there's a listing of yes/no shares available to buy, the price per share, and the total $ amount of shares available at each price.

So if I want to buy "yes" (that nothing ever happens), there's 268.33 shares available at 49c/share, for a total of $131.48 worth of shares going at that share price. If those shares are bought up, the price for "yes" will then increase to 51c/share.

This is just a meme market with a total volume of $37,302. That's pretty low. The Polish presidential election on Sunday has $89 million in it. Low liquidity markets are also more vulnerable to pump-and-dump manipulation where a small group can buy up the low amount of shares, bid the price up, and then sell out as the price crashes back down.

>>2290806
This is an interesting one. The catch is that it resolves on June 30. So it's more "will Trump ban China from buying US farmland before the end of June." But, like, Trump signing an EO banning Chinese state-owned enterprises from buying U.S. farmland counts. There's not a ton of liquidity either. Might bet 50 cents on it or something like that.

nice thread. I look forward to posting here when I get back on the crack. does this shit work with monero?

>>2291354
its built on the ethereum network

>>2290804
Ohh bless you based OP nuykuh. I wanted to make a thread like this but never did. Dunno if its up still but that 1 on will Isreali cabinet members resigned seems like free money.

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>>2291395
post investments, do a yolo

>OP vid 3
i hate this.

>stonks

I get one of the best stocks in the country discounted through work. It's nearly doubled in value since I started working there, my dumb ass didn't buy more earlier.
inb4 enron - imagine if it was microsoft instead, who are literally national infrastructure and can't fall much without the government stepping in

>>2291413
Im Burger :( I have to use Kalshi and only lost money betting on Kamala. Also too poor to gamble at the moment

>>2291189
Who judges the outcome? Is it the platform staff, or someone else?

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>>2291428
this guy


>>2291435
It's a general concept theorized at least before 1994, not that specific website (which I believe is ded).
I can't see anything in the Polymarket ToS prohibiting it, but I'm guessing they would remove "Elon Musk is assassinated by a citizen before August 31."

>>2291428
The answer is apparently: No single party controls the outcome. Market creators set the rules of the resolution when they create the market. Once the event occurs, anyone can propose an outcome (yes/no), which is assumed correct for a few hours unless someone disputes it, and if someone disputes it, it goes to a vote by "UMA token holders" who get rewards if they vote truthfully, and get their tokens taken away if they don't (and it's always more profitable to vote truthfully). And it gets more expensive to lie the bigger the market.

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>>2290838
Bullish case for Zohran here

Got nervous last night and sold my Trzaskowski shares

>>2291548
nothingburger until he gets comfortably ahead of cuomo because 1. the polls don't account for gerrymandering and 2. pinks are flimsy

this seems cynical.
Betting on the future we want would generate an incentive for capitalists to not make those things happen, as they currently have the institutional power to change the things we bet on and literally their purpose is to steal wealth from us. Betting on a future we dont want generates an incentive for you to join forces with capitalist interests.
Also wouldnt it result in the proles being more likely to lose money in general? Because education is currently pay-walled (or at least time-and-effort-walled), the bourgeois would appear to have an advantage over the overworked, less-wealthy proles.

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>>2293015
>implying war outcomes depend on autists betting
>implying China bad
>other falsehoods

>>2291548
Stop fudding, AOC endorsement will come through.

ZOHRAN JUST SECURED THE UAW ENDORSEMENT, GO LONG NOW

>>2291395
This thread is gonna be deader than a dead horse

>>2294000
I'm giving it a week.

>>2293992
how did i imply those things? genuinely. I'm pretty sure i don't believe those things


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