Why do boomer leftists love(d) Israel so much? Guilt over the holocaust? Romantic depiction of early colonists in their national-socialist kibbutz? Positive media exposure in their formative years?
Most of old people supporting Israel in the west were staunch left-wingers in their youth, sometimes they still are leftist just not on this particular issue.
>>2291946<assertion>Why do boomer leftists love(d) Israel so much?Please come back with proofs.
Also, /QTDDTOT/.
>>2291994>no real arguments only insultsas expected from a zionist
when you can't simply scream HAMAS to win a debate like in a bar in Tel Aviv and actually have to convince other people to support your genocide they are repulsed by you
>>2291996what argument can i have against an idiot? an argument presupposes that you are able to learn.
>>2292000so zionism is just the hatred of muslims? nothing else?
>>2292007>what argument can i have against an idiot? an argument presupposes that you are able to learn.this sentence coming from the arrogant retard who has not disproved a single claim in this thread so far how audacious
>so zionism is just the hatred of muslimsyes now what is your rebuttal concede now or die like the genocidal worm you are
>>2292015why would i have to "disprove" self-evidently absurd claims?
>what is your rebuttalto the claim that zionism is just islamophobia, and nothing else?
>>2292033>Palestinians are Arabs and Muslimsall palestinians are muslim?
all arabs are palestinian?
you see the logical errors youre making here?
>>2292075Should've been Germany if we're being honest. Palestine shouldn't have been punished for Germany's crimes (in either World War, really.)
Or, simply, the Zionist movement should’ve faded out into early 20th century obscurity where it belonged.
>>2291979zionism=hitlerian race science
thats not even mentioning pissrael is a crucial part of the imperialist system
>>2291989they openly say this you braindead retard
>>2292007>zionism is just the hatred of muslimsis the hatred of everyone besides other (zionist) jews
>>2292066supporting genocide and opposing national liberation against an outpost of imperialism obviously
>>2292289>>2292075everywhere
>>2292131trvthnvke
>>2292289>>jews shouldnt have the right to self-determinationthis is not true
>should be forced to live with people who hate themno one naturally hates jews thats a hitlerian-zionist possition
>>2292300yes, kill them all
>>2292303>why shouldnt they be allowed tono country belongs to any race
>>2292380> he initially viewed Zionism as something different from a genocidal settler ideology<Why was Gordon S. Wood's refutation of the 1619 Project's claims concerning the American Revolution published on the World Socialist Website?https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/18ir503/why_was_gordon_s_woods_refutation_of_the_1619/<Wood unabashedly revives the consensus history of the 1950s. After the Revolution, he gushes, "suddenly, everything seemed possible." Americans were "living in the freest nation in the world," where "ordinary Americans" thought of themselves as "anybody's equal." Revolutionary leaders were reaching toward "an ideal world, to put the broadminded and tolerant principles of the Enlightenment into practice, to become a homogeneous, compassionate, and cosmopolitan people." But before we go out and hoist the Stars and Stripes, he reminds us that the Founders' "high-minded promise to end slavery and respect the rights of native peoples" (incidentally, a promise they never made) was no match for "surging demographic forces accelerated by the Revolution." The implication is that we cannot blame the Founders for Indian land grabs and the western expansion of slavery, which only resulted from disembodied forces that could not be contained. Wood contends that these changes were "so complicated" and "fast-moving" that the Founders had no idea what was happening. Yet by 1815, the transformation was complete, leading him to conclude, "democracy and equality were no longer problematic issues to be debated." This amazing coup represents a past that few academic historians accept anymore.<So by the time the 1619 Project was published, his influence on the historiography of the American Revolution had decidedly waned. However, WSWS is not an ordinary publication. Part of their Trotskyist party line is that the American Revolution was a bourgeois revolution which tore down old feudalist relics, created conditions for new freedom, and accelerated the historical dialectic towards world communism. In order that Americans revere the revolution until communism is achieved, it is necessary that WSWS keep the 1950s-era "consensus history" on life support for as long as it takes. >>2293323Yeah I think it's a mistake to view boomers as a bunch of leftists who turned conservatives. Actually, the boomers in the New Left saw themselves as a besieged minority in a very conservative society and that included a significant number of their peers as well.
But I think a left-to-Zionist pipeline is probably more common among Jews. There are Jewish-Zionist publications (I'm thinking of Fathom Journal) that are hostile to the Free Palestine movement and the left, but the people are middle-aged and older ex-leftists, and I mean people who had once been in really hardcore groups in some cases like the Spartacist League (which is a strict anti-Zionist organization). But they they tend to hit harder because they understand what leftists actually believe more than Ben Shapiro does.
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